It is incredibly useful to have someone with some experience in psychiatry or nursing documenting this.
Ah .. but you see ... "people" and "Brothers and Sisters" are not the same. Ain't you up to speed on the BKWSU legalese yet!?!
People are Shudras. Brothers and Sisters are other BKs.
It is OK to have to do or tolerate disgusting and embarrassing "Shudra Stuff" to shudras under the guise of "service" or conning lokiks that you are still normal. But lay a finger on a BK Sister, or flirt with a BK Brother and you will have the condemnation of the Family for actions on par with incest. Going for a walk with a BK to do any but talk about service or get to somewhere to do meditation, is like sleeping with your Sister. I cant remember ever seeing a member of the SS kiss anything, even a baby, but I have seen lots of BKs kiss their assess.
One of the funniest things I remember seeing if when the BKWSU when hunting in the New Age market and had to tolerate all that "touchie-feelie" and hugging New Agers do. They even pulled out of Mind, Body and Spirit world ... I think because of it.
I don't know how it has changed recently but culturally Indians don't really do that, especially between the sexes. You get prolonged male to male hand holding which rankled Western heteros, it is common in India. You might get the same from a Senior Sister ONLY once a year at the Rakhi ceremony. SENIOR Sisters ONLY might even give a shoulder to shoulder hug. But that is it for touching, except what you do in the shower.
It even used to be for the one or twice a year “Avyakt Dancing” that Brothers would “dance” with Brothers and Sisters with “Sisters only” ... And dance meant either banging sticks at each other (some “acceptable” Punjabi dance some SS brought it) or New Aged swaying and waving about being “Angelic”. (Has it changed? God, the embarrassment of it all ...)
Hard to say. May be 70% the Organization (if you include the literature), 20% himself trying to make sense of it all and 10% other BKs encouraging him on to “make efforts”, i.e. go mad. If he is reading romantic stuff like Jagdish Chander and the “Adi Dev” book, then that wont help either. Its funny but I can look back and see myself in his shoes doing exactly the same stuff with a batty center-in-charge and out of orbit SS encouraging me on.
You have to understand ... THESE PEOPLE ARE INSTRUMENTS FOR GOD ... THE TOP 8 OR 108 SOULS ... THEIR WORD IS GOD’S ...THIS IS GOD’S WORK ... THEY ARE SAVING THEMSELVES AND EARNING THEIR INHERITANCE FOR ETERNITY!!! ( I reckon Dr Nirmala will be slated for a position in the top 108 at least ... Probably Charlie too ... Wow ... You should be so privileged ... You will probably get to go to the Silver Age JUST because you met/heard/knew about them through him alone ...)
CORRECT. And they don’t care because it is all about keeping the numbers and face up. Problems ... There are no problems. Never were. Just other individual’s karma ...
I will try and make a serious comment about the difference between what I would expect a genuine spiritual path and the BKWSU to be. I would expect individuals to breakdown and have to be rebuilt but with proper support and free from any responsibilities. I agree with you too that they really don’t care nor take into consideration the effects of individual BK’s families etc.
This is, in my book, what pushes them at their extreme into the realms of being a “destructive cult” rather than a New Religious Movement. This and the lack of proper procedure or Duty of Care. They act like a dangerous parasite upon the systems and societies they prey. You suffering is your problem, your karma nothing to do with them.
“Your husband can leave at any time ... It is his decision ... We are not to blame”.
Dr Nirmala has told him it is OK to hug and kiss people as long as it is not done with desire. In the next breath he told me that Brothers and Sisters are NOT to touch each other.
Ah .. but you see ... "people" and "Brothers and Sisters" are not the same. Ain't you up to speed on the BKWSU legalese yet!?!
People are Shudras. Brothers and Sisters are other BKs.
It is OK to have to do or tolerate disgusting and embarrassing "Shudra Stuff" to shudras under the guise of "service" or conning lokiks that you are still normal. But lay a finger on a BK Sister, or flirt with a BK Brother and you will have the condemnation of the Family for actions on par with incest. Going for a walk with a BK to do any but talk about service or get to somewhere to do meditation, is like sleeping with your Sister. I cant remember ever seeing a member of the SS kiss anything, even a baby, but I have seen lots of BKs kiss their assess.
One of the funniest things I remember seeing if when the BKWSU when hunting in the New Age market and had to tolerate all that "touchie-feelie" and hugging New Agers do. They even pulled out of Mind, Body and Spirit world ... I think because of it.
I don't know how it has changed recently but culturally Indians don't really do that, especially between the sexes. You get prolonged male to male hand holding which rankled Western heteros, it is common in India. You might get the same from a Senior Sister ONLY once a year at the Rakhi ceremony. SENIOR Sisters ONLY might even give a shoulder to shoulder hug. But that is it for touching, except what you do in the shower.
It even used to be for the one or twice a year “Avyakt Dancing” that Brothers would “dance” with Brothers and Sisters with “Sisters only” ... And dance meant either banging sticks at each other (some “acceptable” Punjabi dance some SS brought it) or New Aged swaying and waving about being “Angelic”. (Has it changed? God, the embarrassment of it all ...)
So this leads me to ask, how much is he being fed and how much of this is his own doing? disturbed and irrational as it is? I must be careful how I tread here. If he continues as he is, I see him heading for a full breakdown, and I don't want it happening here. My kids and I have been through enough. The fact is though, that woman in there is partially responsible for where he is.
Hard to say. May be 70% the Organization (if you include the literature), 20% himself trying to make sense of it all and 10% other BKs encouraging him on to “make efforts”, i.e. go mad. If he is reading romantic stuff like Jagdish Chander and the “Adi Dev” book, then that wont help either. Its funny but I can look back and see myself in his shoes doing exactly the same stuff with a batty center-in-charge and out of orbit SS encouraging me on.
You have to understand ... THESE PEOPLE ARE INSTRUMENTS FOR GOD ... THE TOP 8 OR 108 SOULS ... THEIR WORD IS GOD’S ...THIS IS GOD’S WORK ... THEY ARE SAVING THEMSELVES AND EARNING THEIR INHERITANCE FOR ETERNITY!!! ( I reckon Dr Nirmala will be slated for a position in the top 108 at least ... Probably Charlie too ... Wow ... You should be so privileged ... You will probably get to go to the Silver Age JUST because you met/heard/knew about them through him alone ...)
We get back to the criminal acts of the BKWSU of not being selective in their recruitment process. Of putting teachers in centres in positions of power and influence over others when they don't have the education, or ethical prowess, to gauge where their students are at. Of literally sending people insane.
CORRECT. And they don’t care because it is all about keeping the numbers and face up. Problems ... There are no problems. Never were. Just other individual’s karma ...
I will try and make a serious comment about the difference between what I would expect a genuine spiritual path and the BKWSU to be. I would expect individuals to breakdown and have to be rebuilt but with proper support and free from any responsibilities. I agree with you too that they really don’t care nor take into consideration the effects of individual BK’s families etc.
This is, in my book, what pushes them at their extreme into the realms of being a “destructive cult” rather than a New Religious Movement. This and the lack of proper procedure or Duty of Care. They act like a dangerous parasite upon the systems and societies they prey. You suffering is your problem, your karma nothing to do with them.
“Your husband can leave at any time ... It is his decision ... We are not to blame”.