Mediums not Yogis

This is a topic that we have skirted around elsewhere but I wanted to address directly. We have often raised the issue that the BKWSU is dishonest in claiming that its brand of Raja Yoga is the "ancient" and original Raja Yoga that the rest of the world would know as Patanjali's Raja Yoga. We have also raise, on many occasions, the issue of the degree of deceit the BKWSU is willing to use and condones when dealing with the real world. And we have discussed at length the question of the psychic versus spiritual levels of BK practise.

My contention is that we should really call ourselves "Mediums" rather than "Yogis". That what the BKWSU teaches is really mediumship, in a number of forms, rather than Yoga.

Fine, its suits our egos to think we are special and being "Raj Yogis" ... we always have to be Kings, Leaders, Deities, Worshipworthy Gods not just human ... and practising "the highest Yoga" not some mere mediumship or channelling of energy. Both the title, and the secret society full of coded language and undercover activities, are a great seduction.

Again the titles "Yoga" or "Yogi" and their credibility, their market value, their status are borrowed from some other tradition and some other individuals' efforts, which were then broadly and persistently criticized. And, sure, mediumship does requires "linking" to some spirit or spirits ... but is this truly Yoga?

Of course, thanks to the device of a 5,000 Year Cycle of Time, the BKWSU would turn this equation on its head and say they, Patanjali and the Yoga traditions, were partial memorials of BKs. How, as the BKWSU shuns physical activity, I do not know. And I do not see that the issue I raise here goes against Advanced Knowledge as, how without accurate knowledge can there be accurate practise? So what, from that point of view, are BKs doing?

Its is interesting to have watched the BKs efforts to sanitize the Wikipedia article about themselves as a top priority was to remove mention of mediumship and channelling and replace them with misleading terms such as Yoga and service. The BKs involved claimed that mediumship and channelling were not central to BK practise ... even if they must be the only religion based on and to get up each day to listen to channelled messages 365 days a year.

But in the less mature BKs' case, I think what also becames clear was that they did not know or realise that they were being set up, initiated and used as mediums or channels. They were so full of the PR myth of being "Raja Yogis" (with little evidence of it!) and blind to all the different aspects of channelling and mediumship we have discussed here. Mediums or channels to the so-called Shiva Baba, the spirit of Lekhraj Kirpalani, the spirits of senior dead BKs, spirits claiming to be Krishna or Lakshmi, training new mediums for BapDada, the odd spook ... who knows what else.

Don't suppose we can say they're medium yogi's? - or someone may add they know some large yogi's too ... .

In all seriousness, I had many mediumistic experiences whilst practicising BK style Gyan and which were shared on an energy level with groups of people who also received the 'energy' from me as I (unconsciously) acted as a channel. These experiences were all 'BK' related, of course, as I'd closed off to other processes or opportunities at the time.

As far as I am concerned, the entire BKWSU setup is mediumistic in its application. Its simple to understand. When you join them and learn all about "Baba" all you want to do is to connect with him" and receive 'energy' and 'sustenance' - that's mediumship on one level ... when you hold a spiritual entity's energy in your own energy fields, that's being a channel or a medium ...

when you hold a spiritual entity's energy in your own energy fields, that's being a channel or a medium ...

Thank you. To which I would add, a large part of the practises are about opening "backdoors" in the individual follower so that they can be used when or if the entities so desire ... unconsciously on behalf of the one being used except, perhaps, for the temporary high or clarity they experience.

BapDada even warns against individual followers believing that it was they that did something in the channelled messages. BKs might think this is an "intellectual" point but I take it to be quite real. And, yes, you are right. He or they are "jealous gods" that want individuals hooked up with no one else.

What to my mind undercuts the BKs position further is that most sources state that the higher a spiritual energy or entity become the more and more subtle it becomes and the harder it is for it to communicate to us down here. So, the gross forms of the pie eyed intoxication we experience in the Honeymoon Period, or the spoken interaction via the spirit of Lekhraj Kirpalani are not necessarily that high.

What are your intuitions about how, and what, the spirits behind the BKWSU are?

I would also flag up the dangers of individuals being opened up psychically without knowing it and without being given the tools or understanding to deal with it ... I theorise but it would concern me that some of the problems ex-BKs, or even contacts, have is that on leaving they are then subject to psychic attacks through the 'open doors' that have been created with the BKWSU system. For example, by other entities looking for a comfortable host.

Thank you for opening this topic as one on its own; it deserves specific place and attention. If what has been said so far, if evidence - and there's plenty of it! - was presented to official religious chiefs, school principles, hospital or jail directors, politicians, etc ... they would have to take back the support they are giving to such a peculiar organisation; the BKs.

And they would not want to be associated to it. Once a sect falls in disgrace, could be Scientology, Jehovah witnesses, TM or Rajneesh group, because of some wrong doing and consequent bad publicity, of course everybody who was involved or even flirted with it, will run from the ship on fire. The era where spiritualism is accepted and encouraged, has not come yet.

The particular thing about the BKs is that they some how manage to paint themselves as "harmless", denying or not mentioning or being as vague as possible about such channeling practises with outsiders, and also describing the advent of God on earth through BapDada as not only harmless but in fact beneficial and foreboding of truth and salvation. This is the typical Godly task in each religion, and no religion feels particularily threatened by God or prophets, even of different creed. However, most religions do have a problem with and discourage possession, and appoint exorcists to take care and rescue those affected. Affected I mean, as if diseased.

BKWSU make that a basis for their doctrine and even daily life and spiritual nourishment, the Murli, words put into students ears that (what a honour, really exclusive stuff, better than Chanel!) come no less than from a world beyond.

The BKs involved claimed that mediumship and channelling were not central to BK practise ... even if they must be the only religion based on and to get up each day to listen to channelled messages 365 days a year.

As I said, these practises are the basis of BK studies, pilgrimages, etc ... it cannot be denied.

I haven't personally met many BKs affected by psychic attacks or freaked out but prone to ups and downs, depressed, dissociated and unstable ... loads of. This can also be a common indication of even temporary possession or non-beneficial influence. As I wrote in some post months ago, the scary thing is the lack of information and professionalism, even in supernatural or esoteric fields. They just mess around with it.

Regardless of how much respect, or belief, we may or may not have in that, there are and there have always been people "specialized" in such area that can utilize their expertise and guidelines or ethics to protect followers and aspirants. BKs are very casual and superficial with something through which people may loose their mind totally. But since members are just meat for slaughter, like soldiers, I suppose they don't care or they even offer it to the hungry ghosts in sacrifice.

To start with, the point through which they gain students' trust, is convincing them that behind this mediumship there's God in person, so no harm will occur. How to verify that?

Me no know man!