Conflicting Murli points

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john

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Conflicting Murli points

Post03 May 2007

Would anyone be interested in having a thread showing conflicting Murli points and any explainations as to why they conflict?
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Post03 May 2007

I raise hand enthusiastically!

Before we even start doing that, however, I would like us to recall what official responses we were given, or mid ranks were instructed to give when questioned. If I recall, a typical answer would be that our intellect was still too limited to understand and more Yoga would fix us. Or that Baba was "playing" with our intellects, as if testing us. Or that the context in which something was said, or people Baba was addressing himself to, were different, there by different instructions . And then translation could always pulled in to justify discrepancies. :roll: :wink:
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Post04 May 2007

alladin wrote:I raise hand enthusiastically!

OK, that's enough for me :D.

What I propose is a format which consists of:
    A summary outlining the conflicting ideas.
    The relevant Murli points preferably with dates to reference.
    Any explaination as to why they conflict.
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Post05 May 2007

Murli PT.No. 49 (Radha Krishna SAME KINGDOM OR DIFFERENT)
"Aajkal kahtey hain, ek raajya, ek dharma, ek bhasha ho. One caste, one religion, one God. Ab Government likhti bhi hai, one God hai, fir sarvavyaapi kyon kahtey hain? One God toh koi maanta hee nahi hai. Toh ab tumko fir yah likhna hai." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli taareekh 05.09.05, pg 4)
"Bhaaratwaasiyon ko yah pataa nahi hai ki Radhey-Krishna aapas may kya lagtey thay. Dono hee alag-alag raajaai kay thay. Fir swayamvar baad Lakshmi-Narayan bantey hain. Yah sab baatein Baap hee aakar samjhaatey hain." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli taareekh 07.10.05, pg 3)

"Now a days people say that there should be one kingdom, one religion and one language. One caste, one religion, one God. Now Government also writes, God is one, then why is God called omnipresent? Nobody considers God to be one at all. So now you must write this again.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 05.09.05, page 4 published by BKs)
"Indians do not know what was the relationship between Radha and Krishna? Both belonged to different kingdoms. Then after engagement, they become Lakshmi and Narayan. Father only comes and explains all these matters." (Revised Sakar Murli dated 07.10.05, page34 published by BKs)

- Both the Murli points mentioned above do not tally with each other. In one Murli Baba is telling that there should be one religion, one kingdom. And in another Murli point Baba is telling that Radha and Krishna belong to different kingdoms. Were there really two kingdoms in the Golden Age? If so, then why is Baba telling that the Indians do not know what was the relationship between Radha and Krishna? Were they children of the same parents belonging to the same kingdom?
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Post11 May 2007

ArjunBhai.

That's a good example. I believe that has been further clarified from the PBK camp to mean there are two Radha's and Krishna's. One set referring to the Confluence Age and one set referring to the Golden Age.

I, at this stage, can not think of any other explaination, can anyone else?

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