What interesting lines of thoughts. I am all with Jan and can see where she is coming from. The boys here add a new dimension to our female thinking. Women from Venus, men from Mars thing. Women are more emotive, men more physical.
Mr Green, all the women on this forum are georgeous!
I think there are many aspects to what has been pointed out here. To maintain a healthy, balanced life unless we then totally withdraw from any other human, we need to touch and express ourselves. We need to be touched. We need to have a closeness and connection with others. We are humans, no matter how much we strive ourselves not to be.
I found the most amazing teaching was that souls are impure. I was astounded to hear this. I am sorry, i cannot disagree more. My beliefs say when we die we then go into our pure form ... i.e. the soul. We are part of God, God is part of us, therefore if we were impure then God would become impure by being part of us. Souls are already pure, don't need to 'cure' them, just moderate our behaviours as humans. So how to relate this back to touch and sex? We are humans. We should strive to be the best we can, to grow spiritually, mentally, emotionally. This goes back to what I originally said about a good balance between all of our different aspects.
To deny totally one aspect of our being cannot be anything but detrimental to our health (mentaly, emotional, physical ) We have a responsibility to look after our bodies, minds and spirits. To condem one is to then make another aspect take up that slack and unless you are a hermit it is going to adversely affect others around you. Fine if you do live on a mountain top, do not have to earn a living and do not have to have anything to do with other humans, it can work nicely for you. If this is not your situation, then in order to make the best of ourselves we have to blend all of our needs and responsibilities into a balanced whole, only then can we love others and give ourselves to them. How can you love others if you are detached and withdrawn, and think you are elite? It becomes a token offering and then ceases to become love.
In my mind, to remove yourself from others (unless you are one of the very, very, very few people that are truely meant for this path and developed spiritually to that extent) because you have fear and guilt and want to ride on a Chariot and become a king is a selfish act. Only love involved is self love. Not the unconditional type. These are my ramblings and opinions only. We all agree, a healthy bond with others and a healthy sex life is very beneficial to us physically, mentally and emotionally. Personally, I think the problems arise is when extremist values are enforced on individuals or groups that cannot possible incorporate them into their situations. A more moderate approach would be far healthier without the immense repercusions so evident.
Love is about others (and God) it incorporates giving of oneself. Its like saying 'I love you' when in fact all they mean is 'you make me feel good' instead of really loving someone. How do you give of yourself if you are detached????? Sex is about intimacy (most of the time depending on your circumstances). My personaly experience of the backwash of BK-dom shows me very little or anything to do with true love. Godly or human.
Anyway, sorry, my 2 cents worth.
Mr Green, all the women on this forum are georgeous!
I think there are many aspects to what has been pointed out here. To maintain a healthy, balanced life unless we then totally withdraw from any other human, we need to touch and express ourselves. We need to be touched. We need to have a closeness and connection with others. We are humans, no matter how much we strive ourselves not to be.
I found the most amazing teaching was that souls are impure. I was astounded to hear this. I am sorry, i cannot disagree more. My beliefs say when we die we then go into our pure form ... i.e. the soul. We are part of God, God is part of us, therefore if we were impure then God would become impure by being part of us. Souls are already pure, don't need to 'cure' them, just moderate our behaviours as humans. So how to relate this back to touch and sex? We are humans. We should strive to be the best we can, to grow spiritually, mentally, emotionally. This goes back to what I originally said about a good balance between all of our different aspects.
To deny totally one aspect of our being cannot be anything but detrimental to our health (mentaly, emotional, physical ) We have a responsibility to look after our bodies, minds and spirits. To condem one is to then make another aspect take up that slack and unless you are a hermit it is going to adversely affect others around you. Fine if you do live on a mountain top, do not have to earn a living and do not have to have anything to do with other humans, it can work nicely for you. If this is not your situation, then in order to make the best of ourselves we have to blend all of our needs and responsibilities into a balanced whole, only then can we love others and give ourselves to them. How can you love others if you are detached and withdrawn, and think you are elite? It becomes a token offering and then ceases to become love.
In my mind, to remove yourself from others (unless you are one of the very, very, very few people that are truely meant for this path and developed spiritually to that extent) because you have fear and guilt and want to ride on a Chariot and become a king is a selfish act. Only love involved is self love. Not the unconditional type. These are my ramblings and opinions only. We all agree, a healthy bond with others and a healthy sex life is very beneficial to us physically, mentally and emotionally. Personally, I think the problems arise is when extremist values are enforced on individuals or groups that cannot possible incorporate them into their situations. A more moderate approach would be far healthier without the immense repercusions so evident.
Love is about others (and God) it incorporates giving of oneself. Its like saying 'I love you' when in fact all they mean is 'you make me feel good' instead of really loving someone. How do you give of yourself if you are detached????? Sex is about intimacy (most of the time depending on your circumstances). My personaly experience of the backwash of BK-dom shows me very little or anything to do with true love. Godly or human.
Anyway, sorry, my 2 cents worth.