naval wrote:It was difficult for Shivani to meet such an interview on dd news and Neemala Sharma showed her status to her. she undermind Shivani due to this shivani was jealous from her.
Honestly, I find her so pathetic, I cannot understand how or why you have been able to create such a narrative in your mind about her.
Here's another interview with a British-Indian pundit, 'BK Shivani interviewed by
Desi Pundit Satish Sharma'. Interesting comments from the audience below. Someone asks where her accent came from, & I think that is a further indication of her nature, as a mimic. You can hear inflections she had picked up from leading English speaking BKs, like Jayanti in London and Denise from the USA in Madhuban, the upward, questioning lilt in each sentence.
Did she kill Satish Sharma? Because he makes her look as stupid as she is here.
As the respectful pundit points out wryly about her answers ... "so skillfully deflected" (23:40). She may come across as "spiritual" to non-BKs, but to ex-BKs we recognise everything she is saying as 'copy and paste' BKism. She's a human tape recorder, that is all. Her ego has been seduced by the status BKism has given her. She's really a no body, with nothing to offer, & I have no idea how women are fooled by her. Of course, it's not her, is what BKism has become behind her.
But ... as they say in law, "Falsus in Uno, Falsus in Omnibus" ... meaning "false in one thing, false in everything". She is committed to repeating BK falsehoods as if the were truth, which sinks her credibility twice. Once to repeat lies without reservation, twice not to have the "due diligence" to check & double check what's she's been told.
I think a certain kind of woman, say a 'head girl' or 'school prefect' type, is attracted to BKism not for any spirituality, but for the positions of status & authority over others it provides for them. You often find them as centers-in-charge. BKism is not about spirituality, it's about acceptance of their leaders' authority. If you stick to the script, conform to the model & business plan, & don't rock the boat, you'll be used & given the reward of attention & high states, even permitted indulgences.
Psychic powers? Zero.
The context is interesting though, it has all the hallmarks of some kind 'soft power' operation, its founder - an American called Cory Bixler - having no knowledge of India, or prior commitment to Yoga or spirituality - but a long professional history in international, military intelligence instead. I wonder what the BKs are getting themselves into here?BK Shivani interviewed by Desi Pundit Satish Sharma for the Festival of Bharat in London at The Royal Overseas League in Mayfair, London. The event was co-founded by
Cory Bixler, a London-based investor and Indophile, originally from the United States. It is backed by India Government's Ministry of Tourism and "Incredible India!" Campaign, and supported by The Art of Living Foundation and The Indian Debating Union.
Cory Bixler has over 30 years’ experience in working in various capacities in the US Goverment.
A graduate of the US Department of Defense Executive Leadership Development Program and the US General Services Administration Trail Boss Program.
Over 30 years’ experience within the Intelligence Community, US Government, and Commercial Sector working in various capacities. Served on various national and international committees focusing on developing policy and guidance toward defense, interoperability and the sharing of information. Worked within the intelligence community in various capacities ranging from management, acquisition, and procurement, liaising with foreign and domestic partners.
A senior government programs manager and Engineer, Provided strategic and tactical leadership in various public sector departments, including managing a $1B+ strategic programs.
Worked with a Fortune 500 and other leading corporations, for over 30 years. ’ A Real Estate investor and Management Consultant, serving on the Board of Directors for several financial organizations. A certified Defense Acquisition Corp professional in information technology and program management. A Masters Degree in Computer Resources and Information Management from Webster University and a Bachelor of Professional Studies in Management from Elizabethtown
The PICASSO programme, which he was involved in, provides strategic to tactical level mapping and digital geographic information and imagery derived intelligence to UK forces.
I could do a point by point breakdown of the nonsense Shivani is speaking here, but really cannot be bothered too. Some of it is outright lies & factually incorrect (e.g. the visions of Lekhraj Kirpalani and Janki being the one to start the first BK centre abroad in 1971, also that BKs are all equal "same class & study"). Some of it just ridiculous vanity ... "The world looks to Bharat for its spiritual wisdom", Bharat being the whole of SE Asia.
Here are responses by the mostly Indian or Desi audience who see right through her. May be you should align yourself with them, & stop frightening yourself with imaginations.
asku0007
Unconditional respect?? lol. I realized at this point that I don't care for her views. If Hindus follow her, they will get pied-pipered in to walking over the cliff. These are the kind of gurus that make Hindus impotent to deal with the asuric forces.
She is delusional. It's the people like pandit ji who operate in the real world and deal with the real issues, while she does in an imagined world where her "pure soul" will automatically change things. If only osama knew about her existence lol.
Sakar Anmalla
Stop bringing cheats like Shivani
She is just on fancy trip of mind no references given childish explanation she has no clue of yugas. Even a small kid will explain better the tugs of Sanatan Arya Samaj
Deepa ganeshan
If to be enlightened is to be like Shivani, I don't want such enlightenment.
Tanmayi
It’s painfully tiring to sit through and listen to Shivaniji skirt around the important questions raised by Pandit Satishji and miss the core issue.
It’s lengthy sermonising with a patronising tone, light years away from reality.
Varun Vikram
Wow the cavalier throwing around of words and lack of adhikara drips from the Sister. Blind leading the blind.
She talks of how it is everyone's RIGHT to learn things rather than presenting paatrata to learn. This right based understanding is a Western one and so the Sister here has merely polished and painted some ideas but the core is severely lacking and meritless
अहमस्मि आज़ाद्
Atma is not soul.
Soul is Christian concept. It doesn't reincarnate.
Sreemaa Kumar
OK so her logic is that starting from SatYuga when people's Sanskar were Satyugi and yet people gradually started to forget somehow they were pure soul and have ended up in Kaliyuga and therefore should practise Satyugi sanskar now and everything will become blissful.
Absolute bullocks. Cringe worthy to say the least ... I feel sorry for her
Pressed pause and typing this at 30:43. I am done with all the stupid virtue signalling and shocked really at the blatant abrahamization in the guise of a book called Murli and god of the desert cult is renamed Baba. The outright mockery in the name of spirituality has to be exposed.
It's crystal clear that some asuric entity is controlling these celibate Sisters who are nothing but worshipping some Preta.
Seriously, Dharma is religion of soul ! Sister Shivani is spreading bhram. If she would have listened to the questions asked by Panditji her delusions would have at least shifted. Looks like she is not willing to unpack. In 1937, there was no social media and how many Westerners appropriated Yoga or printed Ganesha on panties? Shivani was so preachy and completely out of sync with Santana Dharma and it's pristine and pure teachings shared by Rishis.
All her answers scream C-U-L-T
gopal108 B
Great video Satish Ji .. one thing with The Brahma Kumaris that I do not agree with is their softly softly approach to a Kaliyug world. if all Indians followed their utopian principles,India would be totally Islamified now.
Mahesh Srigiriraju
It is quite shocking how she and her order teaches unconditional acceptance in the mundane plane we are living in as of now in Kali Yugam. So, there is no distinction between Dharma vs Adharma; Srīrāma vs Duryōdhana; Srīkrishna vs Rāvana. All are same, it seems. What a travesty!
She was nailed by Satish-ji that she doesn’t make the distinction between Dharmakshethra and Kurukshethra. Plus no Adhikāra is necessary. What went wrong in Satya Yugam was deflected rhetorically, in my view. If such Ātmas degenerated from Satya Yugam to Kali Yugam, then it is self-contradictory to teach without the qualifier called Adhikāra. What effect did they have? We’re they able to turn any religious terrorists to give up their violent ways or all this approach is only to tell Hindus to give up resistance?
She was stitching random words together.
Satish-ji subtly exposed her and was very gentle on her. But any discerning mind would easily understand the hollowness in her Adhārmic explanations.
Poonam Abbi
They are as toxic fior Sanatan Dharma as are the abrahamic religions ... they are just an more benign version of them.
Ragini Sharma
Satish completely failed to ask her the right questions for her answer the questions he has about appropriation, conversion, Hinduphobia and Anti-Hindu propaganda of leftists and evangelicals. His important question about adhikara over Yoga was was skirted by her - she either is not aware of disgusting digestion of Yoga by westerners, especially in UK, who claim “Modern postural Yoga” as a Western invention.
Since he did not ask his questions explicitly, Sister Shivani was able to totally skirt the issues and not answer those difficult questions and challenges Hindus face today. The very idea of Self as Divine comes from Dharmic traditions - Sister Shivani is unable to go into what Rajiv Malhotra brilliantly does - explain “Being Different” to difference anxiety, sameness, Western universalism etc. Satish ends up towing Sister’s agenda.
Very frustrating - one can just feel Satish’s frustration! He asked a great question about why Satyug moved towards Kalyug. Her explanation of ring was not convincing. Disappointing to see Satish fail in having Sister speak on the issues - only a knowledge session.
"The British Hindu" is the Pundit above, and here he answers a criticism of his softly-softly approach,
Ragini Sharma
Thank you Satish for your sincere efforts. We learn as we go and I do appreciate how difficult such interviews are. Indeed, I did not expect you to “crucify” her but I think she is capable of having “difficult conversations” and deal with difference anxiety vs sameness. Again, appreciate your efforts. Namaste.
The British Hindu
Raginiji, she was my guest, on my home turf as well as being a person actually DOING something in accordance with her understanding, all very very important aspects. I hoped to lay bare and visible and fully comprehensible, the essence of the BK offering and the key points where, I feel they are terminally incomplete, but to do so with courtesy and respect. There is a great deal revealed in this interview ... without crucifying her!
Afterwards she, graciously remarked pensively, that she has never been asked the questions which I asked, nor had to give some of the answers which she gave ...
To make a person dig deeper is the hope of a Pandit .. .. thank you so much for watching and commenting ji .
Sadly, I think the Pandit was fooled by her. There's generally nothing sincere about such responses from BK Sisters. They learn to practise the art of being "like sugar in the tea", & flattering silly old men with what they want to her & long & deep staring in the eyes, that their wives and mothers don't even given them.