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Is not the presence of simply one cell equal to the presence of life ?
Is not a bacterium made of one cell ? Back to the "does the amoeba have a soul" talk.
So the minimum constituent of any life form is one cell. Otherwise what are all these NASA folks doing ?
So how many cells does a foetus have, it almost immediately divides when the egg and sperm cell meet.
So life is born. Is life dependent on having a soul or not ?
I don't know what is meant by abortion, only to mean that it is "the safe period when a foetus can be terminated without harming the carrier". Yet I feel it is still life before this abortion period.
Thus if there is life, then there is soul. A soul in the physical world is a lifeless soul without a body to hold onto. Is this the state of Dadji now ? How can she just leave and enter the foetus as she pleases ? This seems to assert that the foetus that Dadiji is in now is just a lump of waste material for her to go in and out of and to hold onto. How crude.
I am going the "guiilty until proven innocent" route and not wait for the official answer from the BKs about this 4-5 month period. Otherwise we can be waiting forever. So thus, what the BKs seem to be proposing is that the soul chooses the state and condition of the foetus before it enters (after 4-5 months). How can that be ? If the foetus is deformed or is perfect, does it matter to the soul ? What the BKs are proposing is therefore the foetus is therefore a dead piece of matter inside a woman's body.
I think the ISKCON definition seems correct :
In the case of the BKs, there is 4-5 months of karma that the BK soul will never be able to recover. Since for them to accept the BK Gyan, it means that when they were themselves in the foetus of their own lokik mother, they are thus pronouncing themselves as "dead" for 4-5 months ?
The result of this is therefore a totally confusing Bhog message. Devotion and Bhakti clouding Gyan issues.
Have another think. If the BK Gyan is correct, then it should be acceptable to eat (chicken) eggs as there is no soul in it ?
Is not a bacterium made of one cell ? Back to the "does the amoeba have a soul" talk.
So the minimum constituent of any life form is one cell. Otherwise what are all these NASA folks doing ?
So how many cells does a foetus have, it almost immediately divides when the egg and sperm cell meet.
So life is born. Is life dependent on having a soul or not ?
I don't know what is meant by abortion, only to mean that it is "the safe period when a foetus can be terminated without harming the carrier". Yet I feel it is still life before this abortion period.
Thus if there is life, then there is soul. A soul in the physical world is a lifeless soul without a body to hold onto. Is this the state of Dadji now ? How can she just leave and enter the foetus as she pleases ? This seems to assert that the foetus that Dadiji is in now is just a lump of waste material for her to go in and out of and to hold onto. How crude.
I am going the "guiilty until proven innocent" route and not wait for the official answer from the BKs about this 4-5 month period. Otherwise we can be waiting forever. So thus, what the BKs seem to be proposing is that the soul chooses the state and condition of the foetus before it enters (after 4-5 months). How can that be ? If the foetus is deformed or is perfect, does it matter to the soul ? What the BKs are proposing is therefore the foetus is therefore a dead piece of matter inside a woman's body.
I think the ISKCON definition seems correct :
The soul enters the womb at the time of conception, and this makes the fetus a living, individual person."
In the case of the BKs, there is 4-5 months of karma that the BK soul will never be able to recover. Since for them to accept the BK Gyan, it means that when they were themselves in the foetus of their own lokik mother, they are thus pronouncing themselves as "dead" for 4-5 months ?
The result of this is therefore a totally confusing Bhog message. Devotion and Bhakti clouding Gyan issues.
Have another think. If the BK Gyan is correct, then it should be acceptable to eat (chicken) eggs as there is no soul in it ?