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paulkershaw wrote:This is an interesting pont you make. Do you think that it is an alternative God on offer or the same God with a different angle?
andrey wrote:False god.
paulkershaw wrote:After all does god not (or supposed to) represent the whole truth? So if someone doesn't agree with Gyan are they then worshipping a false god?
bansy wrote:But back to we are all God's children. The trouble it seems with "groups" is that everyone thinks their own definition of God is superior to another, which goes back to are we God's children and does God see in his children some who are superior to others. (And thus my other thread : Did God make Man, or did Man make God?)
andrey wrote:Dear Brother paul,
*** We can correct ourselves. Till we don't receive the correct knowledge we have false knowledge. Correct knwoledge of him can be given by him for himself and not anyone else***** ***human gurus also say like this. Human gurus ae like enemies, **** they don't let them go to the right place. It is said that we receive enlightenmebt later in subsequent births, but when are these births? It is now that it is the final birth and there will not be more births where we can receive enlightenment. We receive enlightenment now. It is a result of our efforts from the past. Those who have dome most devotion receive more knowledge. Enlightenment does not come through some present effort of penance we have to do. We now receive visions of the future that we understand with the intellect what will happen. Vision with open eyes. It is called knowledge, light, enlightenment.***
**** We are ourselves human beings. What we think about him is only an opinion that is not knowledge, but a theory. Knowledge means, truth means information about what is truth this is spiritual knowledge about spiritual matters – soul- Supreme Soul. *** only Supreme Soul can teach spiritual knowledge. One is just knowledgeful and teach others. *** that we sometimes don't know or understand. *** It is place for someone to study and not a place to go and teach and share his own ideas. ***but there is only one truth ***, otherwise you are in ignorance of different type falsehood. *** this knowledge is not disputable.It makes no difference if you like or not, accept or not. no one likes to prove his own ideas here so that to gain name fame and respect like every human do with his own selves, ideas, religions, oppinions and create dispute with others, because no two people's opinion can match. ****** This if free knowledge in comparison to all other, because the giver is altruistic. ***** bodily interests, like name, fame, or money for clothing, food, concerns all human beings have. Thst's why all human beings are selfish, because they have bodies toi think about and their love is also limited and conditional. There is only one source of true selfless, knowledge, love etc.from the incorporeal God.He has come to give and not to take he cannot take anything from us. *****If we are not interested in him he is not interested in us either. ********Thats why though rememberanc of one or through punishment the soul has to become pure and return home.
andrey wrote:No, no, basic knowledge is correct, but it is basic knowledge. This is not criticism. Like the difference between school and university. Basic knowledge is not denied, it is clarified in depth. The difference comes in the clarifications, the explanations, the teachings of the Murlis.
andrey wrote: Souls are good and bad both. Yes, we choose what to see and according to our vision we create a word.
paulkershaw wrote:Your answers seem pretty defined in terms of your lifestyle.