Sakar Murli 2004/02/10 Revised

Revised Sakar Murli dated 10/02/04 published by BKs


Song: Take us away from this world of sin to a place of rest and comfort…

Om shanti. Children have now understood what the world of sin is and what the world of charity is, that is, what the pure world is. In fact, this Bharat is the world of sin and Bharat itself then becomes the world of charity, heaven. Bharat itself was Paradise and Bharat has become the extreme depths of hell because they continue to burn on the pyre of lust. There, no one burns on the pyre of lust. There is no pyre of lust there. You would not say that there is the pyre of lust in the golden age. These matters have to be understood. First of all a question arises. The Bharat that is impure and unhappy definitely was pure and happy. They even speak of the original eternal Hindu religion. However, who are called the original eternal people? What does original mean and what does eternal mean?

Original means the Golden Age. Who existed in the golden age? Everyone knows that Lakshmi and Narayan existed then. Surely, they would be the children of those who became the masters of the Golden Age. It was the Supreme Father, the Supreme Soul, who established the Golden Age; they were His children. However, they don’t consider themselves to be His children at this time. If they were to consider themselves to be His children, they would know the Father, but they don’t know Him. The Hindu religion is not mentioned in the Gita. The name Bharat is mentioned in the Gita and those people are called those of the Hindu Mahasabha. The Shrimad Bhagawad Gita is the jewel, the mother, of all scriptures. They celebrate Gita Jayanti and also Shiva Jayanti. You should know when it is Shiva Jayanti. Then, there is Krishna Jayanti. You children now know that after Shiva Jayanti, there is the Gita Jayanti. After the Gita Jayanti, there is Krishna Jayanti. It is only through the Gita Jayanti that the deity religion is established.

The Gita Jayanti also has a connection with the Mahabharata and there are things about a battle mentioned in that. They show that there were three armies on the battlefield. They show the Yadavas, Kauravas and Pandavas. The Yadavas were those who invented the missiles. They drank alcohol and made the missiles emerge. You know that the missiles are now truly being invented. They are threatening one another, to destroy their own clan. They are all Christians. The people of Europe are also the same Yadavas. So, one is their gathering. They were destroyed by fighting amongst themselves. The whole of Europe was included in that. Those of Islam, Buddhists and Christians were all included in that. Here, there are the Kauravas and Pandavas. The Kauravas were also destroyed and the Pandavas gained victory. Now, the question arises: Who is the God of the Gita who taught easy Raja Yoga and easy knowledge and made you into kings of kings, that is, who established the pure world? Did Shri Krishna come to do that? The Kauravas were in the Iron Age. How could Shri Krishna come at the time of Kauravas and Pandavas?

They celebrate Shri Krishna Jayanti; he was sixteen celestial degrees at the beginning of the Golden Age. After Shri Krishna, there was the Jayanti of Rama who was fourteen degrees. Krishna was the king of kings, that is, the prince of all princes. Even vicious princes worship Shri Krishna because they know that he was sixteen celestial degrees full, the complete prince of the Golden Age and that they themselves are vicious. Surely, the princes would say this. There is now to be Shiva Jayanti. There is the biggest image of Him is in the temples. That is the temple of Incorporeal Shiva. He alone is called the Supreme Father, the Supreme Soul. Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar are deities. Shiva Jayanti is only celebrated in Bharat. Shiva Jayanti is now about to come. You have to explain and prove that Shiva alone is called the Ocean of Knowledge, that is, it is the Supreme Father, the Supreme Soul, who makes the world pure.

Gandhiji also used to sing this, but he didn’t mention Krishna’s name. So, the question now arises: Is it Shiva Jayanti which then brings the Gita Jayanti or is it Krishna Jayanti which then brings the Gita Jayanti? Krishna Jayanti would be said to be in the Golden Age. No one knows when it was the Jayanti of Shri Krishna. Shiva is the Incorporeal Supreme Father, the Supreme Soul, and He created the world at the Confluence Age. In the Golden Age, it was the kingdom of Shri Krishna so, surely, Shiva Jayanti would have been before that. The children who are the decoration of the Brahmin clan, those who remain busy doing service, should bring these things into their intellect and understand how to explain and prove to the people of Bharat that it is through Shiva Jayanti that there is the Gita Jayanti. Then, from the Gita, there is the Krishna Jayanti, that is, the Jayanti of the king of kings. Krishna is a king of the pure world. That was the kingdom there.

Krishna did not take birth there and speak the Gita, therefore, there could not have been the Mahabharat War in the Golden Age. That must definitely have taken place at the Confluence Age. You children have to explain these things very clearly. The Pandava and Kaurava gatherings are very well known. They show Shri Krishna as the head of the Pandavas. They believe that he taught easy Raja Yoga and easy knowledge. In fact, there is no question of a battle etc. The Pandavas, to whom the Supreme Father, the Supreme soul, taught easy Raja Yoga, became victorious. They were the ones who became part of the sun and moon dynasties for 21 births. Therefore, first of all, explain to those of the Hindu Mahasabha.

There are also other gatherings, such as the Lok Sabha, Rajya Sabha (different political parties). The Hindu Mahasabha is the main one. The three armies remembered were Yadavas, Kauravas and Pandavas and they existed at the Confluence Age. The Golden Age is now being established. Preparations for the birth of Krishna are now being made. The Gita was definitely spoken at the confluence age so whom should you now show at the Confluence Age? Krishna cannot come here now. Why would he leave the pure world and come into the impure world? In fact, Krishna doesn’t exist at this time. You know that he is now in his 84th birth. They think that Krishna is present everywhere, that he is omnipresent. The devotees of Krishna say that all are Krishna, that Krishna has adopted those forms. Those who belong to the path of Radhe say that Radhe is in everyone -I am Radhe and you are Radhe. Many dictates have emerged. Some say that God is omnipresent, some say that Krishna is omnipresent, some say that Radhe is omnipresent.

The Father is now explaining to you children. That Father is the World Almighty Authority and so He is giving you children the authority to explain to all of those people. Explain to those of the Hindu Mahasabha. They would be able to understand these things. They consider themselves to be religious-minded. The Constitution doesn’t have a particular religion. They themselves are confused. Shiva, the Supreme Soul, is the Incorporeal Ocean of Knowledge. No one else can be called the Ocean of Knowledge. Only when He personally comes here and gives you knowledge can the kingdom be established. Then the kingdom is established. He would personally come once again when you have lost your kingdom. So you have to prove that Shiva, the Supreme Soul, is the Incorporeal Ocean of Knowledge and that it is Shiva Jayanti which brings the Gita Jayanti.

You should make plays based on this so that the matter of Krishna is removed from people’s intellect. Only the Incorporeal Supreme Soul, Shiva is called the Purifier. All the scriptures have been written by human beings based on human dictates. Baba doesn’t have any scriptures. The Father says: I personally come and make you children into princes from beggars, and then I go away. Only I can give you this knowledge personally. Although those people who relate the Gita recite it, God is not there personally in front of them. They say that the God of the Gita was personally there, that He created heaven and then went away. So, is it that people can become residents of heaven by listening to that Gita? When someone is dying, they read the Gita to him; they don’t read any other scripture. They believe that heaven was established through the Gita and that is why they only read the Gita. So there should be only the one Gita. All the other religions came later. No one else can say that they will become residents of heaven.

They give people Ganges water to drink; they don’t give River Jamuna water. Importance is given only to the water of the Ganges. Many Vaishnavas go there and bring back urns of that water. They say that by drinking a drop of that water mixed with normal water all their illnesses end. In fact, it is the stream of the nectar of knowledge through which your sorrow is removed for 21 births. By bathing in the living Ganges of knowledge people can become residents of heaven. So definitely the Ganges of knowledge would have emerged at the end. There are rivers of water anyway. It isn’t that by drinking water anyone can become a deity. Here, if someone hears even a little knowledge, he claims a right to heaven. These are the Ganges of knowledge of Shiv Baba, the Ocean of Knowledge. The Ocean of Knowledge, the Bestower of the Knowledge of the Gita, is only one Shiva, not Krishna. There is no one impure in the Golden Age to whom knowledge would be given. God sits here and explains all of these things.

O Arjuna, or O Sanjay. The names have become famous. He was very clever at writing and so he became an instrument. Now, Shiva Jayanti is coming and so you should write this in big writing. Shiva is Incorporeal. He is called the Ocean of Knowledge, the Blissful One. Krishna cannot be called knowledgefull or blissful. Only Shiva, the Supreme Soul, gives knowledge and has mercy. His knowledge is His mercy. A master has mercy and teaches you and you thereby become a barrister or an engineer. There is no need for bliss in the Golden Age. So, first of all, you have to prove whether it is Shiva Jayanti, the Incorporeal Ocean of Knowledge, that brings the Gita Jayanti or whether it is the Golden Aged corporeal Krishna Jayanti that brings the Gita Jayanti. You children have to prove this. You know none of the messengers who come make anyone pure. Because it has been the kingdom of Maya from the Copper Age, all have become impure.

When people become distressed, they say that they want to leave here. The religion that they establish then grows. They establish their religion with the power of purity and then they have to become impure. There are four main religions and expansion takes place through them. The branches and stems emerge. When it is proved that the Shiva Jayanti brings the Gita Jayanti, all the other scriptures will be proved useless because they were written by human beings. In fact, the scripture of Bharat is just the one Gita. The most beloved Father makes it so easy and explains to you. His directions are the most elevated of all. You now have to prove whether it is the Incorporeal Ocean of Knowledge Jayanti that brings the Gita Jayanti or the Golden Aged corporeal Shri Krishna Jayanti that brings the Gita Jayanti. You have to hold a big conference to do this. If this is proved then all the Pandits will come to you and take this aim. You have to do something at Shiva Jayanti.

Explain to those of the Hindu Mahasabha. Theirs is a large organisation. In the Golden Age there is the original eternal deity religion. There aren’t any other Sabhas (gatherings) there. The Sabhas exist at the Confluence Age. First of all you have to prove that the original eternal Sabha is in fact the Brahmins or Pandavas. The Pandavas gained victory and then became residents of heaven. No one can say that the original eternal deity religion exists now. You would not say that it is a Sabha of the deities. They have a sovereignty. Those Sabhas existed at the Confluence Age of the cycle. One of those was the Pandava Sabha which would also be called the original eternal Sabha of the Brahmins. No one knows this. There are no Brahmins with the name of Krishna. The top-knot of Brahmins is named because of Brahma’s name. The Sabha of you Brahmins would be in the name of Brahma.

Someone wise is needed to explain all of these things. He needs to have the enlightenment of knowledge. Only Incorporeal Shiva is the Bestower of the Knowledge of the Gita, the Bestower of the divine eye. Imbibe all of these things and then hold conferences. Those who feel that they can prove this should meet as a group. There is a Sabha of majors and commanders on a battlefield. Here, a Maharathi is called a commander. Baba is the Creator and Director. He is creating heaven and so He gives directions for this: Set up a Mahasabha and then take up this topic. When it is proved who the God of the Gita is, everyone will understand that they should have yoga with Him. Baba says: I have come as the Guide. You should at least become worthy to fly. Maya has broken your wings. By having yoga, you souls will become pure and fly. Achcha.


To the sweetest, beloved, long lost and now found children, love, remembrance and good morning from the Mother, the Father, BapDada. The spiritual Father says Namaste to the spiritual children.