Abrahmakumar wrote:Supposing my Mum and Dad "sign up to BKdom" and then fetch me to the alokik family gatherings, children's classes, Madhuban, children's retreats, Raakhi ceremonies etc etc. However as the years roll on and I start to develop my own personality I think to myself that the whole scene is not for me so I go my own way. Developing, as most human's seem to do, varied interests and friends/acquaintances are you saying that were I to get married and have a family that I would be bringing a bad name to the path of knowledge that Shiva Baba has started and would therefore be classed a traitor?
Dear Brother,
Omshanti. You have brought up a valid and practical question that is faced by many BKs and PBKs. I have only mentioned whatever I have heard in the Murlis that those who indulge in sex-lust or vices within or outside the Brahmin life would be termed a traitor. It is only a general statement referring to a class of souls. But I have also mentioned that no Brahmin soul including any Dadi or seniormost BK or PBK has got the right to term anyone as traitor. And ShivBaba/BapDada has so far (either in any Sakar Murli/Avyakt Vani/clarification Murli) not referred to anyone by name as a traitor. So I can leave the answer to your question to anybody's guess. And as I have also said that a soul could be traitor at one point of time and become the child of God after some time. So it is not a permanent state/title of any soul.
I wouldn't want to openly ask your personal opinion on such a sensitive matter but on a general note would it not be appalling for a child to hear his/herself so described all of his/her life. Couldn't such strong terms be counter-productive to fostering a healthy climate for a child to develop in? Can it be argued with some justification that these teachings reflect the more alarming manifestation of control freakery on the part of institutions such as the BKWSU?
Yes, it is indeed counter productive to fostering a healthy climate. As long as it remains a general statement in the Murli without pointing fingers at a particular soul, it is not that harmful. But if fellow Brahmin souls, who are themselves effortmakers of various grades start using such words to describe or address particular soul(s), then it becomes counter productive. When this word was originally used in the Sakar Murlis during the times of Brahma Baba, it was used to describe such souls which indulge in sex-lust or vices during or after the Brahmin (i.e. BK) life. But since 1976, the meaning of this word got expanded to include the PBKs and after 1997 some PBKs may be using this word to describe ex-PBKs, but I don't think it is good for the spiritual growth of any soul.
How many parents actively seek to 'balance' the more radical views that these institutions hold sacred? I know of one BK mother who was relieved that her daughter had 'decided' to call off an engagement to a non-BK. No doubt the shame that such an action would have conferred upon the family was too appalling to comprehend. Especially as mum and dad were very close to the Seniors. Is that how parents BKWSU live, in dread of their children being 'normal'?
There are many BK and PBK parents (both single and couples) who try to balance the more radical views by leaving the choice of marriage to their children. In fact this issue has been dealt with in the Sakar Murlis even during the days of Brahma Baba. Baba has said that in case a daughter wants to get married, she should got married. In case a son wants to get married, and if he is self reliant, he should be allowed to get married at his own expenses. Baba has even dealt with cases of BKs/PBKs where the souls have got engaged before entering the path of knowledge. In case of such male BKs or PBKs who have got engaged before entering the path of knowledge, Baba has said that they should obtain a written undertaking from their wives-to-be that they would be ready to lead a celibate life. And since virgin BKs/PBKs do not have much say in conservative societies, they cannot get any family support in case they want to call-off their engagement. So the virgin BKs/PBKs have been advised by Baba to remain celibate. Here is the relevant Murli quote:
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Kayi likhtey hain Baba pehley say hee sagaai kee hui hai. Ab kya karein? Baba kahtey hain – tum kamaal karkey dikhao. Unko pehley say hee boal do. Tumko pati kee aagya par chalnaa padega. Yah guarantee karnee hogi ki ham pavitra rahengi. Pehley say hee likh dey, jo ham kahengey vah maanengi. Likhaakar lo fir koi parvaah nahee. Kanya toh likhwa na sakey. Unko purushaarth karnaa chaahiye hamko shaadi nahee karnee hai. Kanyaaon ko toh bahut khabardaar rahnaa hai." (Brahmakumariyon dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli dinaank 26.12.06, pg 3)
"Many write – Baba, I am already engaged. What should I do now? Baba says – you should set an example of wonder. Tell her beforehand. You would have to follow the orders of the husband. You would have to guarantee that you will lead a pure life. She should write beforehand that she would obey whatever he says. If you take it in writing, then there is no worry. A virgin cannot get a written assurance (from the groom). She should try to make efforts to avoid marriage. The virgins must remain very vigilant.” [color=blue] (Revised Sakar Murli dated 26.12.06, pg 3 published by BKs in Hindi and narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba, and translated by a PBK, the words within brackets have been added by the translator)[/colour]
17 Mar 2007
I am outa here.