Please don't let this post make you miss the last one on the page before, here. It's important. Unfortunately for us, Pink Panther is at least 2,500 years old and has a good memory of the discussion he had at the foot of the Acropolis, and he reminds us that the same discussion, about the same principles, have been going on for all that time ...
I linked an "Arab Slavery" website previously. I see the same group also have a Sister website called: African Holocaust.net which seems to be sincere and has a wealth of information on it. It appears the authors are doing what we are doing re the BKs but at a far deeper and more extensive level (there are more of them but they are often going back to the original source, e.g. research in Africa). They seem to have the same interests or purpose as you.
At present, a Namibian tribe is agitating against the German government for its theft of their land and a deliberately genocide that killed 80% of their population 100 years ago. The Herero and Namaqua genocide.
Personally, I would love all indigenous peoples to be given back their lands and for equitable reparations to be made. I would love to see a "fair and impartial" calculation of the exchange between the new world and the old worlds ... by which I am inferring that I do not see it as a one way deal. Yes, the new world profited by its exploitation of the old worlds ... but, the old worlds also profited from the fruits of the new world (order?).
On one level it appears to me that the "old world", the indigenous peoples, paid for an 'accelerated evolution' with some suffering. Many suffered without doubt, but they "evolved" 1,000s of years in one generation. If you were to equate the cummulative sufferings and strifes of the peoples of the "new world" to reach modernity ... would it be more or less than an African, Australasian or Native American being ripped out of a hunter-trapper existence and propelled into the 20th Century?
A life in a hunter-trapper society is short, brutal, hard, very largely extremely sexist ... and without modern denistry. Indigenous people's need to ask very honest questions about which is the better deal, and if modernity is the better deal, then is/was the price worth it, or not?
Africa paid with the only resources it had at the time, including slavery, but it got the industrial revolution in return ... was it a fair exchange? Individuals African genetic strains might have been ripped out of Mother Africa but they ended up with 20th Century human rights, educations, opportunities and double the life expectancies ... was it worth it in the long run?
I am not suggesting it was done right, only asking the 'big picture' questions ... who do you want to be; a middle class Black professional living in California, or an uneducated female sharecropper living in Liberia ... Rwanda ... or where ever else they are still cutting each other up with machetes (like Kingston or Detroit, may be?).
I linked an "Arab Slavery" website previously. I see the same group also have a Sister website called: African Holocaust.net which seems to be sincere and has a wealth of information on it. It appears the authors are doing what we are doing re the BKs but at a far deeper and more extensive level (there are more of them but they are often going back to the original source, e.g. research in Africa). They seem to have the same interests or purpose as you.
At present, a Namibian tribe is agitating against the German government for its theft of their land and a deliberately genocide that killed 80% of their population 100 years ago. The Herero and Namaqua genocide.
Personally, I would love all indigenous peoples to be given back their lands and for equitable reparations to be made. I would love to see a "fair and impartial" calculation of the exchange between the new world and the old worlds ... by which I am inferring that I do not see it as a one way deal. Yes, the new world profited by its exploitation of the old worlds ... but, the old worlds also profited from the fruits of the new world (order?).
On one level it appears to me that the "old world", the indigenous peoples, paid for an 'accelerated evolution' with some suffering. Many suffered without doubt, but they "evolved" 1,000s of years in one generation. If you were to equate the cummulative sufferings and strifes of the peoples of the "new world" to reach modernity ... would it be more or less than an African, Australasian or Native American being ripped out of a hunter-trapper existence and propelled into the 20th Century?
A life in a hunter-trapper society is short, brutal, hard, very largely extremely sexist ... and without modern denistry. Indigenous people's need to ask very honest questions about which is the better deal, and if modernity is the better deal, then is/was the price worth it, or not?
Africa paid with the only resources it had at the time, including slavery, but it got the industrial revolution in return ... was it a fair exchange? Individuals African genetic strains might have been ripped out of Mother Africa but they ended up with 20th Century human rights, educations, opportunities and double the life expectancies ... was it worth it in the long run?
I am not suggesting it was done right, only asking the 'big picture' questions ... who do you want to be; a middle class Black professional living in California, or an uneducated female sharecropper living in Liberia ... Rwanda ... or where ever else they are still cutting each other up with machetes (like Kingston or Detroit, may be?).