Elsewhere on this site and internet, there is a video of Derren Brown, a hypnotist, inducing atheists into having a "God experience/conversion, eg here.
Do people experience the "Ocean" of Peace, Love, Bliss etc that BKs claim they do? Or is it just a trademark ... a grandiose title for whatever is happening (and I accept something can happen for some)? Would you buy it if it was called "The Puddle of Love"? How can we measure and compare such things?
Equally, I know individuals who were BKs for many years, even a financed centre, who did not experience anything.
For me, it would not if BKs had full blown multiple orgasms and saw a fire works shows every time they chanted "OM" ... what matters is the end it is all working towards - the "Great Death" and annihilation of humanity - and the manifestation meanwhile - wealth, power and land/property for the leadership.
This is not just a superficial, personal view. It is one based on classical spiritual values. The evidence the BKs present - and their methodology (exaggeration, manipulation, deceit) is not of the highest level. It's at a lower, more worldly level or worse.
Some people actually see the BKs and their god spirit as "evil" ... the work of a false god or prophet, a Satanic or Luciferic angel in Christian terms.
Although I am cautious about using such terms ... because they are easy to manipulate and misrepresent ... *metaphorically* I tend to agree with such a view.
Fine, say BKism is the most drug you've ever taken ... but is that not just being all self absorbed? It is not just all selfishness and conceit ... all about "me, my experience and damn the rest of the world"? What does it do for others?
I tend to think "higher" spirituality is even more subtle and refined and promotes honesty, clarity and selfless virtues.
I see very little evidence of that in the "look at us ... are not we great ... where are the VIPs ... gives us all your property and wealth ... Destroy humanity" religion Lekhraj Kirpalani and the Krirpalani Klan have created.
Have the BKs really created "great" spiritual people ... or an army of brainwashed zombies who spend all their time lying to people, or repeating second hand lies their leaders have told them?
I am sorry but, for me, that self absorbed "in-toxic-ation" is worth nothing. It's just another opiate and it warps and debases individuals, not straightens up and elevates them.
And there is certainly not a "supreme" god at the heart of it.
From Greek mythology, we have the parable or idiom of "the lotus-eaters", a race of people living on an island dominated by narcotic lotus plants which caused the people to sleep in peaceful apathy.
Friend wrote:The thing is, does anyone experience the Ocean of Peace, Love, Bliss etc that BKs do ...
Do people experience the "Ocean" of Peace, Love, Bliss etc that BKs claim they do? Or is it just a trademark ... a grandiose title for whatever is happening (and I accept something can happen for some)? Would you buy it if it was called "The Puddle of Love"? How can we measure and compare such things?
Equally, I know individuals who were BKs for many years, even a financed centre, who did not experience anything.
For me, it would not if BKs had full blown multiple orgasms and saw a fire works shows every time they chanted "OM" ... what matters is the end it is all working towards - the "Great Death" and annihilation of humanity - and the manifestation meanwhile - wealth, power and land/property for the leadership.
This is not just a superficial, personal view. It is one based on classical spiritual values. The evidence the BKs present - and their methodology (exaggeration, manipulation, deceit) is not of the highest level. It's at a lower, more worldly level or worse.
Some people actually see the BKs and their god spirit as "evil" ... the work of a false god or prophet, a Satanic or Luciferic angel in Christian terms.
Although I am cautious about using such terms ... because they are easy to manipulate and misrepresent ... *metaphorically* I tend to agree with such a view.
Fine, say BKism is the most drug you've ever taken ... but is that not just being all self absorbed? It is not just all selfishness and conceit ... all about "me, my experience and damn the rest of the world"? What does it do for others?
I tend to think "higher" spirituality is even more subtle and refined and promotes honesty, clarity and selfless virtues.
I see very little evidence of that in the "look at us ... are not we great ... where are the VIPs ... gives us all your property and wealth ... Destroy humanity" religion Lekhraj Kirpalani and the Krirpalani Klan have created.
Have the BKs really created "great" spiritual people ... or an army of brainwashed zombies who spend all their time lying to people, or repeating second hand lies their leaders have told them?
I am sorry but, for me, that self absorbed "in-toxic-ation" is worth nothing. It's just another opiate and it warps and debases individuals, not straightens up and elevates them.
And there is certainly not a "supreme" god at the heart of it.
From Greek mythology, we have the parable or idiom of "the lotus-eaters", a race of people living on an island dominated by narcotic lotus plants which caused the people to sleep in peaceful apathy.