Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs
VCD* No.428, Cassette No. 914, dated 25.04.06 at Dhulabari, Nepal
Clarification of Murli dated 16.02.67
Ref. No.VCD*.,
... Now the children know that we would get transformed from tamopradhan (degraded) to satopradhan (pure) by remembering the Father. By remembering whom? By remembering the Father. It has not been said – by remembering the mother. By remembering whom? By remembering the Father. The Father says – remember me. Who says? (Someone said – the Father says) Does the Father say? How does He say? Where does He say? How would He say in 1967? (Someone said – at that time it was mother) Yes, at that time it was the form of a mother, so then the Father says – How would this matter get proved? ‘The Father says’ – It means that He would speak through the mouth only, will He not? And He would say through the mouth that - remember me. So, should you remember the mother or should you remember the Father? What would you say? (Someone said – Remember the Father) Hm? Remember the Father? At that time in 1967, in sixty seven, was there Father in the form of a Father? He wasn’t there. Then how should you remember? It means that in the beginning of the Yagya, there was a form, isn’t it? Yes, this is applicable to the form, which was in the beginning of the Yagya also that – remember my form (swaroop) in which the Father enters in a permanent form (mukarrar roop). Then what would happen? Remember. This is not knowledge. Remember.
Second page of the Vani dated 16th February, 1967. The Father gives a direction – remember me. This is not knowledge. This is called Yoga. This is called Yaad (remembrance). Knowledge is about the world cycle that how this world cycle rotates. The Knowledge is about it. And as regards Yoga, Yoga is different and knoweledge is different. It is the children’s duty to remember the Father. That is a lokik (worldly or physical) Father and this is a Paarlokik Father. Paarlokik means what? One who does not belong to this lok (i.e. world). To which world does He belong? Paar lok (the other world). What does Paarlok mean? One that is beyond this world. Which worlds are beyond that lokik world? Which worlds are beyond this lokik world? There is no Father at all in the Subtle Region. One of the worlds beyond this lokik world is the swarglok (heaven). That swarglok is beyond this lokik world, beyond this lustful & sinful (vishay-vikaari) world only. Is it on this side (paar) or that side? It is on the other side. So that is also a paarlok. It is beyond this world.
This is a Paarloukik Father. So, will the Paarlokik Father be present in the golden world (swarnim duniya) which would be beyond this world or not? Will he not be there? Will he be present or not? Will he be present? Arey! (Shalu Bhen said – He would establish and then depart). Shalu Bhen is telling that he would establish and depart. Her intellect thought about the incorporeal Father. And she is also telling that – He would not be there. It means that – did the incorporeal Father come or did the corporeal Father come to her intellect? (Shalu Bhen – He would depart in 2036, 37, will He not? He would be there before that. He would remain till 36, 37). We are talking about the golden world. (Shalu Bhen – then he would be present in corporeal form at that time) We are talking about the golden world. (Shalu Bhen – he would be present; he would be present) Will the golden world be present in 2036, 2035 or not? (Shalu Bhen – It would be present). It would be present, isn’t it? So it would be a Paarlok only, isn’t it? So would the Father be present in the Paarlok (the other world) or not? (Shalu Bhen – He would be present) He would be present, isn’t it? The same thing has been mentioned. He is a lokik Father and this is a Paarlokik Father.
It has also been said in the Murli that nothing of this world is permanent (sadaakaal sthaayi). It is ShivBaba alone who is permanent. So is He permanent in the world cycle of 5000 years? Is the Supreme Soul Shiv permanent or is ShivBaba permanent? The combination of corporeal and incorporeal is said to be Baba. So who is permanent in this world? ShivBaba would be permanent. And Father Shiv is not permanent in this world. He comes only in the Confluence Age. And He performs His task and returns. He becomes a spectator (saakshi) and he becomes a companion (saathi). The souls of Ram and Krishna would become companions and Father Shiv would become a spectator and sit in the Paarlok situated above for 5000 years. The Father says – Remember me. It is the same thing again. Which Father says? The Supreme Soul says – remember me because as the person we remember so shall we become. If we remember the Supreme Soul alone; if He alone remains in our intellect; if one does not remember the corporeal at all, then one would have to sit above for some time. (Someone said – no, no) No, no, no, no. And the Father says - if you remember me - so He must be speaking through a mouth only, isn’t it? If we remember the Father, who speaks through the mouth, who says – remember me, then we would come in The Cycle of 5000 years, we would play an all round part. And we would also come in the list of the Suryavanshis. If our Father becomes the master of the world, then we children would also become the master of the world. There ‘as the king, so the subjects’ (yatha Raja tatha praja) shall be equal. What? If the Father is a master (maalik), then the children would also be masters.
So the Father says – rememeber me. So knowledge is a different thing. And remembrance is a different thing. Do the children have to be told? Is it required to tell those, who are children, those who are the true children, to remember the Father? (Someone said – No. No. They do not forget at all.) So, why does He say repeatedly? (Someone said – They do not remember. That is why He says). They do not remember; then. It means that they are not children at all. It means that – were all those children, who were sitting in front of Baba until 1967, Baba’s Suryavanshi children or were they Chandravanshi, Islamvanshi, Bauddhivanshi, Christianvanshi children, etc.? Were there Suryavanshi children at that time? The Suryavanshi children had departed at the beginning of the Yagya itself. He speaks emerging those children. The Suryavanshi children, who obtain the direct inheritance of the Father, had departed in the beginning of the Yagya itself. And when Brahma Baba, Mama leave their bodies, then after Mama left her body, the Chandravanshi soul enters the Yagya. It is the one who gets transformed from a woman to the post of Lakshmi and for whom it has been said – 20 years might have passed. One might have become 20 years old. And the soul which plays the part in the form of Sun enters the path of knowledge after Brahma Baba has left his body ...(to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
VCD* No.428, Cassette No. 914, dated 25.04.06 at Dhulabari, Nepal
Clarification of Murli dated 16.02.67
Ref. No.VCD*.,
... Now the children know that we would get transformed from tamopradhan (degraded) to satopradhan (pure) by remembering the Father. By remembering whom? By remembering the Father. It has not been said – by remembering the mother. By remembering whom? By remembering the Father. The Father says – remember me. Who says? (Someone said – the Father says) Does the Father say? How does He say? Where does He say? How would He say in 1967? (Someone said – at that time it was mother) Yes, at that time it was the form of a mother, so then the Father says – How would this matter get proved? ‘The Father says’ – It means that He would speak through the mouth only, will He not? And He would say through the mouth that - remember me. So, should you remember the mother or should you remember the Father? What would you say? (Someone said – Remember the Father) Hm? Remember the Father? At that time in 1967, in sixty seven, was there Father in the form of a Father? He wasn’t there. Then how should you remember? It means that in the beginning of the Yagya, there was a form, isn’t it? Yes, this is applicable to the form, which was in the beginning of the Yagya also that – remember my form (swaroop) in which the Father enters in a permanent form (mukarrar roop). Then what would happen? Remember. This is not knowledge. Remember.
Second page of the Vani dated 16th February, 1967. The Father gives a direction – remember me. This is not knowledge. This is called Yoga. This is called Yaad (remembrance). Knowledge is about the world cycle that how this world cycle rotates. The Knowledge is about it. And as regards Yoga, Yoga is different and knoweledge is different. It is the children’s duty to remember the Father. That is a lokik (worldly or physical) Father and this is a Paarlokik Father. Paarlokik means what? One who does not belong to this lok (i.e. world). To which world does He belong? Paar lok (the other world). What does Paarlok mean? One that is beyond this world. Which worlds are beyond that lokik world? Which worlds are beyond this lokik world? There is no Father at all in the Subtle Region. One of the worlds beyond this lokik world is the swarglok (heaven). That swarglok is beyond this lokik world, beyond this lustful & sinful (vishay-vikaari) world only. Is it on this side (paar) or that side? It is on the other side. So that is also a paarlok. It is beyond this world.
This is a Paarloukik Father. So, will the Paarlokik Father be present in the golden world (swarnim duniya) which would be beyond this world or not? Will he not be there? Will he be present or not? Will he be present? Arey! (Shalu Bhen said – He would establish and then depart). Shalu Bhen is telling that he would establish and depart. Her intellect thought about the incorporeal Father. And she is also telling that – He would not be there. It means that – did the incorporeal Father come or did the corporeal Father come to her intellect? (Shalu Bhen – He would depart in 2036, 37, will He not? He would be there before that. He would remain till 36, 37). We are talking about the golden world. (Shalu Bhen – then he would be present in corporeal form at that time) We are talking about the golden world. (Shalu Bhen – he would be present; he would be present) Will the golden world be present in 2036, 2035 or not? (Shalu Bhen – It would be present). It would be present, isn’t it? So it would be a Paarlok only, isn’t it? So would the Father be present in the Paarlok (the other world) or not? (Shalu Bhen – He would be present) He would be present, isn’t it? The same thing has been mentioned. He is a lokik Father and this is a Paarlokik Father.
It has also been said in the Murli that nothing of this world is permanent (sadaakaal sthaayi). It is ShivBaba alone who is permanent. So is He permanent in the world cycle of 5000 years? Is the Supreme Soul Shiv permanent or is ShivBaba permanent? The combination of corporeal and incorporeal is said to be Baba. So who is permanent in this world? ShivBaba would be permanent. And Father Shiv is not permanent in this world. He comes only in the Confluence Age. And He performs His task and returns. He becomes a spectator (saakshi) and he becomes a companion (saathi). The souls of Ram and Krishna would become companions and Father Shiv would become a spectator and sit in the Paarlok situated above for 5000 years. The Father says – Remember me. It is the same thing again. Which Father says? The Supreme Soul says – remember me because as the person we remember so shall we become. If we remember the Supreme Soul alone; if He alone remains in our intellect; if one does not remember the corporeal at all, then one would have to sit above for some time. (Someone said – no, no) No, no, no, no. And the Father says - if you remember me - so He must be speaking through a mouth only, isn’t it? If we remember the Father, who speaks through the mouth, who says – remember me, then we would come in The Cycle of 5000 years, we would play an all round part. And we would also come in the list of the Suryavanshis. If our Father becomes the master of the world, then we children would also become the master of the world. There ‘as the king, so the subjects’ (yatha Raja tatha praja) shall be equal. What? If the Father is a master (maalik), then the children would also be masters.
So the Father says – rememeber me. So knowledge is a different thing. And remembrance is a different thing. Do the children have to be told? Is it required to tell those, who are children, those who are the true children, to remember the Father? (Someone said – No. No. They do not forget at all.) So, why does He say repeatedly? (Someone said – They do not remember. That is why He says). They do not remember; then. It means that they are not children at all. It means that – were all those children, who were sitting in front of Baba until 1967, Baba’s Suryavanshi children or were they Chandravanshi, Islamvanshi, Bauddhivanshi, Christianvanshi children, etc.? Were there Suryavanshi children at that time? The Suryavanshi children had departed at the beginning of the Yagya itself. He speaks emerging those children. The Suryavanshi children, who obtain the direct inheritance of the Father, had departed in the beginning of the Yagya itself. And when Brahma Baba, Mama leave their bodies, then after Mama left her body, the Chandravanshi soul enters the Yagya. It is the one who gets transformed from a woman to the post of Lakshmi and for whom it has been said – 20 years might have passed. One might have become 20 years old. And the soul which plays the part in the form of Sun enters the path of knowledge after Brahma Baba has left his body ...(to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.