Discussion CD No.240 dated 15.01.07 at Belgachia, Calcutta
Ref. No.Disc.CD-240-extracts, dated 17.05.07
Kisi mataji nay poocha: Baba, Bhaktimarg may makar sankranti manaatey hain - yeh kya hai gyaan may? Bhaktimarg may makar sankranti din manaatey hain, Ganga may nahaata hain. Behad ka maana kya hai?
Baba nay kaha: Makkaar Shankar kee anti ho jaati hai. Kisi nay poocha: Makkar ka matlab? Baba nay kaha: Makaar ka matlab hai, jo makkaari detaa hai. Arey! Shankar kee aatma bhi satopradhan, satosaamaanya, rajo aur tamo banti hai ki nahee? Jab tamo banti hai usko kahtey hain - "makkaar". Makkaarpanaa deta hai. Makkaarpaney ka ant ho jaataa hai.
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A mataji asked: Baba, Makar Sankranti is celebrated in the path of worship. What is that in terms of knowledge? Makar Sankranti day is celebrated in the path of worship. People bathe in the river Ganga. What does it mean in unlimited sense? Baba said: The part of Makkaar Shankar ends. Someone said: What does Makkaar mean?
Baba said: Makkaar means the one, who gives deceitfulness. Arey! Now the soul of Shankar also becomes satopradhan, satosaamaanya, rajo and tamo or not? When he becomes tamo, he is called makkaar (deceitful). He gives deceitfulness (makkaarpanaa). Deceitfulness ends.
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Dear PBK Brothers.
The above answer from Baba (through Virendra Dev Dixit) depicts Shankar as a Deceit( makkaar), who passes through the phases of sato-rajo-tamo. Now please read what Shivbap has to say in the Murli dated 5-9-97;
"ShivBaba is teacher also and Satguru also. He is Brahma's guru also. He is not the guru of Vishnu and Shankar (Shankar toh patit banta hi nahin). Shankar never becomes impure, so he does not require a guru. These things are to be understood by the intellect. Those who imbibe these things intellectually get the highest honour and those who do not imbibe then they will loose their rank."
Also as per Advanced Knowledge, Shankar is not one soul playing the part but 3 souls (Shiv + Ram + Krishna) combined playing the part (so how can all 3 souls become tamopradhan at the same time?) and also as per the Murli "Brahma - Vishnu - Shankar take birth together" (that moment is still to come in future) and not seperately. The Murli also says, ''Shankar is a subtle Deity'' and in the Subtle Region no one passes through the stages of Sato - Rajo - Tamo.
So, what i want to highlight is that the above answer is given by Krishna and not ShivBaba (as PBK think), and it is Krishna (Bharat) who at the fag end of Kaliyugi shooting has become 100% brashtachari (corrupted), and that Krishna (Bharat) that is now corrupting the whole Godly knowledge to such an extent that Bharat will now become 100% jhoot khand. Then Ramshivbaba will have to come and make Bharat (Krishna) into 100% sach-khand.
shivsena.
Ref. No.Disc.CD-240-extracts, dated 17.05.07
Kisi mataji nay poocha: Baba, Bhaktimarg may makar sankranti manaatey hain - yeh kya hai gyaan may? Bhaktimarg may makar sankranti din manaatey hain, Ganga may nahaata hain. Behad ka maana kya hai?
Baba nay kaha: Makkaar Shankar kee anti ho jaati hai. Kisi nay poocha: Makkar ka matlab? Baba nay kaha: Makaar ka matlab hai, jo makkaari detaa hai. Arey! Shankar kee aatma bhi satopradhan, satosaamaanya, rajo aur tamo banti hai ki nahee? Jab tamo banti hai usko kahtey hain - "makkaar". Makkaarpanaa deta hai. Makkaarpaney ka ant ho jaataa hai.
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A mataji asked: Baba, Makar Sankranti is celebrated in the path of worship. What is that in terms of knowledge? Makar Sankranti day is celebrated in the path of worship. People bathe in the river Ganga. What does it mean in unlimited sense? Baba said: The part of Makkaar Shankar ends. Someone said: What does Makkaar mean?
Baba said: Makkaar means the one, who gives deceitfulness. Arey! Now the soul of Shankar also becomes satopradhan, satosaamaanya, rajo and tamo or not? When he becomes tamo, he is called makkaar (deceitful). He gives deceitfulness (makkaarpanaa). Deceitfulness ends.
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Dear PBK Brothers.
The above answer from Baba (through Virendra Dev Dixit) depicts Shankar as a Deceit( makkaar), who passes through the phases of sato-rajo-tamo. Now please read what Shivbap has to say in the Murli dated 5-9-97;
"ShivBaba is teacher also and Satguru also. He is Brahma's guru also. He is not the guru of Vishnu and Shankar (Shankar toh patit banta hi nahin). Shankar never becomes impure, so he does not require a guru. These things are to be understood by the intellect. Those who imbibe these things intellectually get the highest honour and those who do not imbibe then they will loose their rank."
Also as per Advanced Knowledge, Shankar is not one soul playing the part but 3 souls (Shiv + Ram + Krishna) combined playing the part (so how can all 3 souls become tamopradhan at the same time?) and also as per the Murli "Brahma - Vishnu - Shankar take birth together" (that moment is still to come in future) and not seperately. The Murli also says, ''Shankar is a subtle Deity'' and in the Subtle Region no one passes through the stages of Sato - Rajo - Tamo.
So, what i want to highlight is that the above answer is given by Krishna and not ShivBaba (as PBK think), and it is Krishna (Bharat) who at the fag end of Kaliyugi shooting has become 100% brashtachari (corrupted), and that Krishna (Bharat) that is now corrupting the whole Godly knowledge to such an extent that Bharat will now become 100% jhoot khand. Then Ramshivbaba will have to come and make Bharat (Krishna) into 100% sach-khand.
shivsena.