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Post12 Jan 2008

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.393, Audio Cassette No.879, dated 15.02.06, at Yatragachi (Calcutta)

Clarification of Murli dated 03.02.67

Part-III-Eng.


... Whatever wicked acts one performs, all those will come in front of them in the end. Then one will have to suffer the punishments of Dharmaraj. One goes on having visions of everything. It does not take time to cause visions of those sinful actions. The Father keeps explaining all the matters. The Father comes only to cause benefit. One should cause benefit to oneself as well as others. The Father has also been called to - come and show the way to us sinful ones to become pure. So, the Father gives Shrimat. You consider yourself to be a soul and leave the body consciousness and remember me. Look, what a simple medicine He gives. Tell (them), we believe in only one God. He says - You call me saying - come to purify sinful ones , so I have to come.

You do not get anything from Brahma. Even Brahma's soul obtains from us. Who said this? Even Brahma's soul obtains from us - who said this? (Someone said - ShivBaba said) Did ShivBaba say? (Someone said - By emerging the combined form, BapDada) Yes, you do not get anything from Brahma. It means that nobody is going to attain anything from the role of Brahma howevermuch [To whatever extent] one may worship Brahma, to whatever extent one may worship Christ, they are not going to attain anything. The attainments will be obtained from us. Who is telling this? Even Brahma's soul obtains from us. Is 'from us' (hamsey) plural or singular? Even Brahma's soul obtains from me – This was not said and what was said? Even Brahma's soul obtains from us. So, who all are included in 'us'? (Someone said - BapDada) BapDada? Arey, Dada is Brahma's soul himself. Is he the one who studies knowledge or is he the one who teaches?...(Someone said - ' obtains from us' means ShivBaba and the soul of Ram - two) Yes. 'From us' means there are two souls - One is the unlimited Father Supreme Soul Shiv and one is the Father of the human creation, the Father of human beings - Ram.

Everyone obtains attainment from those two souls. Even Brahma obtains attainment just from them. You do not obtain anything from Brahma. Even Brahma's soul obtains from us. Tell them, Brahma is not our guru, etc. Brahma is not our guru, etc. Arey, who is the main guru among the gurus in this world? Alright, name the main gurus. There is a world of variety human beings. Buddhists, Christians, Islamic people, Buddhists; they exist, don't they? They certainly have gurus. Abraham, Buddha, Christ - these are gurus. They are religious gurus, religious fathers. Among them who is the biggest guru? (Someone said - the biggest guru is Prajapita. ShivBaba through Prajapita) No, no. Among the human gurus. (The Brother said - Brahma) Guru Brahma. It is a matter of the gurus of this world. So, Brahma is close to the corporeal world. For him it has been said - the biggest guru among all gurus is Brahma, because, even when God comes to this world, everyone is sustained under his guidance . Souls of all religions receive sustenance except those belonging to the Sun Dynasty.

Suryavanshis exit from the Yagya in the beginning itself. They do not receive the sustenance. When do they come and receive the sustenance? When Brahma leaves his body, they receive the sustenance, but from whom do they receive the sustenance? Do they receive the sustenance from the corporeal or do they receive the sustenance by emerging? (Someone said - from the corporeal) No. Brahma left his body in 1969. From whom did the children, who came after that, receive the sustenance? ( they received the sustenance in two ways). Some considered the versions emerging from the mouth of Brahma as their guru. The versions are of ShivBaba. The versions are not of Brahma - they understood this; and some considered the Didi, Dadi, Dadas to be gurus and even among the Didi, Dadi, Dadas, some considered Brahma to be guru and the intellect of some thought that - ShivBaba alone is our guru through Brahma.

So, it was said - Tell (them) that Brahma is not our guru, etc. Just as there are many kinds of creations in the human world, so they believe that - Christ is our guru, Buddha is our guru. In that way Brahma is not our guru. He is in fact Dada. What? What does Dada mean? He is an elder Brother. A Brother doesn’t get inheritance from another Brother. He is not even Baba. Who? Brahma is not even Baba. Then why do they call him Baba? If Brahma is not Baba, then why is he called Baba? (Someone said - he is elderly) Yes, he is elderly, that is why he is called Baba. But, it is not true that we will get inheritance from him. One gets inheritance from Baba. One does not get inheritance from Brahma. And who is called Baba? The corporeal one as well as the incorporeal one should be present.

So this is a fact, isn’t it? Brahma left his body. Nobody got the inheritance of mukti-jeevanmukti (liberation and liberation in life). So, it means that - Brahma Baba is not even Baba. Who should be called Baba? - The one, who is a combination of the corporeal and the incorporeal. So, that is a matter of revelation. When that Father, the Supreme Soul gets revealed through that corporeal body, through the appointed Chariot, then he will be called ShivBaba. So, one does not get inheritance from Brahma, that is why we do not even keep the picture of Brahma. What? All those so-called Brahmins keep the picture of Brahma and we do not even keep the picture of Brahma.

The incorporeal Father adopts [us] through them; through whom? He teaches us souls. The incorporeal Father adopts us souls through them (in dwara) and teaches us. Through whom? (Someone said - through Father Ram) Is 'in' (them) singular or does it denote two persons? (Someone said - plural) It is plural. (Someone said- through Ram and Krishna) Yes, He teaches through them. But one does not get attainment through them. He adopts and teaches us souls. He teaches them as well. 'Them' (inko) refers to whom? (Someone said, Ram and Krishna) He teaches them as well. One would not get anything from Brahma. Even among them, one would not get anything from the form of Brahma. The inheritance is received only from the Father . One receives (the inheritance) through them. One certainly gets inheritance from the Father, Supreme Soul Shiv, but through whom does one get? Through them
...(to be continued)

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Post13 Jan 2008

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.393, Audio Cassette No.879, dated 15.02.06, at Yatragachi (Calcutta)

Clarification of Murli dated 03.02.67

Part-IV-Eng.


... As regards Brahma, he does not have any value. The one Father is the giver. He alone is the bestower of the true salvation upon everyone (sarva ka sadgati daataa). This one gets transformed from worshipworthy (poojya) to a worshipper (pujaari). He was (worshipworthy) in the Golden Age; then he passed through The Cycle of 84 births and has now become sinful. He is becoming worshipworthy, pure once again. There is no other matter here at all except getting transformed from a sinful one to a pure one.

The third page of the Vani dated 3rd February, 1967. We listen only through the Father. Which Father is it about? (Someone said – Father Shiv) No. It is ‘through’. Shiv is the name of a point. It is the soul, who narrates, but who is it ‘through’, i.e. the media? (Someone said – Father Ram) Yes, we listen only through the Father . We do not listen through any other human being.

The path followed by human beings is just a path of worship. The path followed by all the human beings is a path of worship. Knowledge comes from the Father. This is the path of spiritual knowledge. There is no knowledge in Bhakti (worship/devotion) at all. The knowledge is contained only in the one ocean of knowledge. There is knowledge in the one ocean of knowledge. Who is that ‘One’? (Someone said – Father Ram) Father Ram? The one ocean of knowledge, who contains knowledge, is it Father Ram? Isn’t it Father Supreme Soul Shiv? [Someone said Father Shiv] The word ‘Ocean of knowledge’ is attached. As the word ocean is attached, so everything is included in the ocean. Even the entire Earth is included ; moreover an ocean is sweet as well as salty. Is Father Shiv ever salty? Father Shiv is never salty. It means that He becomes an ocean of knowledge through the appointed Chariot in which He enters. So, only one Father is the ocean of knowledge.

We rivers of knowledge have emerged from the ocean of knowledge. When? We had emerged even in the beginning of the Yagya and even now whether it is Ganga, whether it is Yamuna, whether it is Saraswati Jagdamba; from where do they emerge? From whom do they obtain knowledge in practical form? They obtain (knowledge) from the Father, the ocean of knowledge . They emerge from the Father, the ocean of knowledge; then what happens in between is that their route gets diverted here and there. Where do they go and meet at last? They again meet the ocean. So, this is a drama. What? Whether it is river Ganga, whether it is river Yamuna, whether it is Saraswati Jagdamba; from where do they emerge? (They emerge) from one ocean of knowledge, the Father. This is a practical matter. And then? Then they may roam around here and there, anywhere. What happens when they roam around? Then they don’t meet completely with the ocean of knowledge, the Father at that time. What? They also develop opposition in the thoughts. Then what happens at last? At last those rivers meet the ocean of knowledge once again. But they are the oceans of water and the rivers of water. Who? All the rivers and all the small oceans are the rivers of water and the oceans of water. What does water mean? Ocean of water and ocean of milk (ksheer saagar); what is the difference? Who is shown in the ocean of milk? The snake-bed (shesh-shaiyya) of Vishnu is depicted in the ocean of milk. What does ksheer saagar mean? Kheer. Kheer means milk. An ocean of milk. What is the difference between an ocean of water and an ocean of milk? When the ocean of milk, i.e. ksheer is churned, cream would come out and when water is churned, cream would not come out. It means that whatever knowledge is narrated by the rivers is not a new matter. What? Whatever the rivers would narrate would not be new matters and whatever the Ocean of knowledge narrates are matters of essence. Whether they are rivers, whether they are ponds, whether they are lakes, and whether they are small oceans, they all do not narrate new matter. And the Father comes and narrates new matter.

So, the children should keep all this in mind. What? Which matter should they keep in mind? The intellect gets diverted to others, towards other gurus. Some party emerges somewhere and some party emerges somewhere . Why does the intellect get diverted to these parties and the heads of these parties? It is because this matter vanishes from the mind that – whatever others narrate is either The Knowledge of scriptures or just the matter narrated by the Father. They do not narrate any new matter and the Father comes and narrates new matters everyday.

So, one must become an introvert (antarmukhi) and apply the intellect. One must churn inside. If any bad word emerges from one’s mouth or if one throws dirty glances, then one should scold oneself. Why did such bad words emerge from my mouth? Why did I throw dirty glances? One should even slap oneself. If one does like this, only then one will achieve a high post. If someone observes us slapping ourself, then will he not call us mad? What is this! He is slapping himself. One should even slap oneself. Only then one can achieve a high post. Bad words should never emerge from the mouth. The Father's matter is different. Arey! How is His matter different? Does it mean that the Father can speak bad words? cannot the children speak bad words? Why is the Father's matter different? He has to teach. Whom? Who is He supposed to teach? Arey, the Father has to teach the children . That is why sometimes he has to speak even in an opposite manner, but bad words should never emerge from the mouth of children. Calling someone chariya, that is mad, is also a bad word.

The Father says - All are madchaps. Madchaps? Mad monkeys are called madchaps. The Father says - everyone is a mad monkey, but you children should not call anyone even mad. People do not know even the one whom they remember. Whom do they remember? They remember the deities in the path of worship, don’t they? But they do not know the life-story, biography of the deities whom they remember. If they don’t know, then will they be called madchaps? You will call (them madchaps), won’t you? Call them idiots or madchaps, it is one and the same. They sit before deities and sing their glory. They do not understand the meaning at all. The meaning should also be understood. Whose glory is sung? Arey, the one, whose glory is sung, must have come and done something, hadn’t he? Only then he is praised. As they do not know, they are madchaps. They keep telling whatever comes to their mind. They do not know anything, as to whose glory do we sing?
...(to be continued)

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Post14 Jan 2008

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.393, Audio Cassette No.879, dated 15.02.06, at Yatragachi (Calcutta)

Clarification of Murli dated 03.02.67

Part-V-Eng.


... One must sing the glory of one Father, who is the purifier of the sinful ones. no one else’s glory is there. There is no glory of Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar as well. Why? They are in fact the three personalities (Trimurti) of Shiv himself . Then why are they not praised? If Shiv does not come, then there is no value of even Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar. Even Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar are not called purifier of the sinful ones (patit-paavan). It is ShivBaba alone who purifies the sinful ones. These Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar do not purify anyone . The purifier of the sinful ones is only one Father. It is the new world that is a pure world and that does not exist now. The pure world does not exist now. What kind of a world is it now? It is a sinful world. Purity exists only in heaven. Now there is no purity in this world, but what exists here? Purity does not exist in this world, but what exists? Now, where should we connect the intellect? Purity does not exist in this world, but where should we connect the intellect? (Someone said – with ShivBaba) Yes, ShivBaba is pure, ever pure, isn’t He? Purity exists only in heaven.

The ocean of purity is also the Father alone; and there is a kingdom of Ravan in this world. Sanyasis etc. feel – we are pure. Although they renounce (the household). Although they renounce later on, after taking birth, but how did they take birth? Did they take birth through righteousness or unrighteousness? They were born through unrighteousness, weren’t they? This is a kingdom of Ravan. The bodies of all are born through unrighteousness. So, an unrighteous one will not be called a pure one and what about your birth?....If someone who is clever and intelligent says – OK, all were born through unrighteousness. The sages and saints were also born through unrighteousness, but how were you born? Then, what will you reply? (The Brother said – I will say that I am a mouthborn progeny) Yes, tell them – We have taken birth as a mouth born progeny of Brahma. We are the mouthborn progeny of Brahma. We are not the progeny of the unrighteous organs. Our behaviour and views and our thoughts are all getting transformed. We are changing. The unrighteous one will not be called a pure one. Tell them – You are also unrighteous; only then do you say – purifier of the sinful ones, come.

What are those, who l/invoke (God) called? What will those, who invoke God, be called? Will they be called sinful ones or pure ones? Will they be called unrighteous ones or righteous ones? They are unrighteous , sinful ; that is why they call. OK, are all those who call (God) at Mount Abu the sinful ones? Do they call or not? They call; it means that they are sinful ones. The Father explains all the secrets. It has entered the intellect of those who are the mouthborn progeny that – Father Shiv has come in this world. There is no need to call him. He comes without being called. Brahma’s soul comes in (the body of) Gulzar Dadi on being called. It means that all the human beings, their souls, are the ones who seek respect and position, it may be any human being; and what about Shiv? The soul of Shiv does not seek any respect or position. When He comes, He has to come on His own.

There is no need for anyone to call Him. But in order to talk to such Sanyasis etc. Maharathis [great warriors] are required because Sanyasis are very intelligent. By the way, a lot of such mad people who wander about come. Even among Sanyasis, a lot of such ones come. They get two rotis (bread) for their stomach. They even keep committing a lot of sins. Many such sinful souls also become Sanyasis. Even the police put on the attire of the sanyasis for investigation sake. Policemen have pictures of bandits etc., don't they? The CID people get special training for investigation. They learn this special task. So, [the children should not speak any harsh words or bad words from the mouth.] What is this? First the matter of CID was mentioned. And then the matter of the children was mentioned.

One should behave very affecionately. Bad vision (kudrishti) causes a lot of harm. Whom does it cause harm? There is no doubt that harm is done to the one who has a bad vision, but the person on whom dirty glances are thrown; even he/she gets affected, gets coloured by the company. So, one must put in a lot of effort.

Soul consciousness is imperishable. That is imperishable consciousness and body consciousness is perishable. The body is also perishable. So, you know that - nobody in this world knows the soul. There must be definitely some Father of the soul as well [/A soul will definitely have a Father]. When the body has a Father, then the soul will also have a Father. . People even say – All are Brothers. So when all are Brothers, then how can the Supreme Soul Father be present in all? They don’t have even this much sense. The Supreme Soul Father can be present only in the one who is the Father of the entire human world. What? When all are Brothers, then will the Supreme Soul Father be present in all? No. Then, in whom will He be present? (He will be present in the one) who is the Father of the entire human world, and whom nobody gives birth. OK, does no one give physical birth to Prajapita? (Someone said something) Then? (Someone said - the birth of knowledge) Yes, it means that there is nobody in a corporeal form to give knowledge to him. There is someone in a corporeal form who gives knowledge even to Brahma ; there is someone in a corporeal form who gives knowledge even to Saraswati. There is someone in a corporeal form who gives knowledge to all Deities ; But there is no one in a corporeal form to give knowledge to Prajapita . So, everybody's Father is one.

The inheritance is received only from the one who is the Father of everyone. If this matter remains in the intellect then one would not get entangled in other gurus. Otherwise what happens? Some get entangled in Vishnu Party, some get entangled in some Patel, and the intellect becomes degraded. What should one remember? (Someone said - One Father) No, one should remember that - whoever sit as gurus, sit as God, and are accepting worship, from where did they obtain attainment? Where did they obtain The Knowledge from? Even they obtained The Knowledge from the Father . When they too obtained The Knowledge from the Father , then why should we not catch the one highest on high ? Why should we get entangled in others at all?
.....(to be continued)

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Post15 Jan 2008

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.393, Audio Cassette No.879, dated 15.02.06, at Yatragachi (Calcutta)

Clarification of Murli dated 03.02.67

Part-VI-Eng.


... The inheritance is received only from them . His name is Shiv. What? How can we recognize the one, from whom we receive the inheritance? Shiv is the name of a point. So, how can the point be recognized? Worms and insects, animals and birds, all are points. How can one know that the point-like God Father is present in them ? One receives the inheritance only from them. His name is Shiv. On what basis is a name given? The name is given on the basis of the tasks (performed). His task is benevolent (kalyaankaari). What? Whatever task He performs will be benevolent. Whatever work He does through the bodily organs will be benevolent.

What about the other human beings? In case of other human beings this fact is not applicable that - whatever task they perform through the bodily organs will be benevolent, whatever words they speak will be benevolent; that is why it has been said about the human beings that - human beings, you children should not speak bad words (kuvachan). The Father; he has to speak bad words, hasn’t he? Why must he? Why must the Father speak bad words? As the Father so shall be the child . Why must the Father speak bad words? In order to teach (a lesson). The Father has to speak (bad words) in order to teach, but even while teaching, what is his intention ? This child should also get benefited.

Even Shivratri (night of Shiv) is celebrated. It is not said Rudraratri or Krishnaratri. Why is it not said Rudraratri? Why is Krishnaratri not celebrated? They do celebrate the night of Krishna. Is the birth of Krishna shown in the night or in the day? Here it has been said - It is not said Rudraratri or Krishnaratri. (Someone said - The one who transforms night into day is one ShivBaba). Yes, it is not said 'ratri' (night) in respect of Krishna because when the night is about to complete , the soul of Krishna gets revealed in this world and Father Shiv gets revealed when it is a [night with terrible darkness] stark night.

Human beings do not understand anything. Another reason for not saying Rudraratri is that - the role of Rudra is actually played when the world is about to end. What? When the task of establishment completes, then the fierceful form is to be assumed and all the wicked ones are to be destroyed. So, the matter of Rudraratri is later on . Shivratri is celebrated. People/they say- Mahashivratri. Human beings do not understand anything. They will say - All those are just His name and form . Whose? Whose names and forms are they? It will be said - whether it is Ram, whether it is Krishna, whether it is Shankar, whether it is Brahma, all those are just His names and forms . Whose? The names and forms of one God. Now you understand - If all are just His names and forms , if He is present in everyone/all, then one should receive inheritance from everyone/all. The inheritance of mukti and jeevanmukti should also be received, shouldn’t it? So, you know that the inheritance is received from the Father. Inheritance is not received from Brothers.

So, one should follow the Father’s Shrimat. Shrimat means elevated direction. Anyone else cannot give an elevated direction. The Father says – remember me. Nobody else can even say this. What? That – remember me. Why can’t one say? Don’t all husbands tell their wives – remember me, do not remember others. Concentrate your intellect on me. I am your husband, God, Parmeshwar. Pati (husband) himself is Parmeshwar (God). Don’t they teach so? (Someone said – Path of worship) Yes, they do say, but are they like that? In this way, in every home the husband became God , but actually husband is not God.

The Father himself says – remember me. Give the same teaching to the labourers too. Then even they will get benefited. But when they do not remember (the Father) themselves, how can they remind others? What has been said? The labourers remain busy in their work day and night. They keep in the factory itself; they keep earning. Their intellect is focused only on that . So, give the introduction of the Father to them also, but who will give them the introduction? Who will give the introduction to those whose intellect is busy only in their occupations? For example, [in which occupation are the Brahmakumaris busy? Are they busy in giving the introduction of the Father? They are busy in filling their stomach. Go on accumulating wealth. Keep building bank balance. They themselves do not know about the Father, so, how will they give the introduction to others? So, the labourers, whose intellect is focused only in worldly occupations and only in earning wealth, who will remind such ones to remember the Father? The one who himself does not remember (the Father) cannot give the introduction to them. Who can give? The one, who himself remembers the Father, the one who sacrifices his entire body, mind, wealth, time, contacts, relationships in the task of the Father, can give them the introduction.

Ravan makes us a complete devil. The Father comes and makes us residents of the abode of angels. It is a wonder, isn’t it? There is nothing in the intellect. These Lakshmi and Narayan were such great residents of the abode of angels (paristaani) and they get transformed from the residents of the abode of angels to such degraded, devils (shaitaani). Who? Whose matter was mentioned? Whose matter was mentioned? (Someone said something) No, these Lakshmi and Narayan were such great residents of the abode of angels, and they get transformed from the residents of the abode of angel to such devils. O.k. the matter of Narayan is accepted, that- Narayan becomes a devil. How does Lakshmi become a devil? How does Lakshmi become a devil? (Someone said – when she is under the control of Ravan) Yes, when someone is under the control of Ravan, then as the king so shall be the subjects. It is a strict rule that – whoever lives under whosoever control becomes like him/her. That is why Brahma’s day and Brahma’s night are famous. Why? Brahma’s day and Brahma.

Why is Prajapita’s day and Prajapita’s night not famous? Shiv has entered Prajapita. When Shiv has entered, there is no question of the darkness of ignorance. He is a completely knowledgeful soul, but those who come under the influence of the darkness of ignorance lose faith. When they lose faith it will be said for them that it is a night of ignorance . So, Brahma as well as all the Brahmins come under the influence of darkness. When Brahma comes in light, then all the Brahmins also come in light. Then who is the one who brings that Brahma and those Brahmins into light? (Someone said – ShivBaba) Yes, when Brahma as well as the Brahmins are in darkness, then certainly there should be someone who brings them into light, shouldn’t there? So, the one who should be present is one ShivBaba. Nobody else can bring even Brahma from darkness to light. Even then it does not fit into the intellect. What? What does not fit into the intellect? That is why Brahma’s day and Brahma’s night is famous.

You can do a lot of service in the temple of Shiv. What? going to the temples of devis (female deities) is not a big deal, but you can do a lot of service in the temple of Shiv. The Father says – Remember me, and stop wandering about . The Father also says the same thing and all husbands also say the same thing to their wives. You stop going to temples and mosques, stop going here and there in the spiritual gatherings. Stay at home. So, then why do we see such similarity? Why do those husbands say like this? Even when God might have come in this world, he makes Brahma His wife. Which Brahma does He make His wife first of all? (Someone said – Aadi Brahma/the first Brahma) Yes, the relationship of a wife and a husband exists only when both exist in a corporeal form. Until the Supreme Soul, a point of light does not enter, He cannot become a husband at all. When He becomes husband, Brahma becomes wife.

So, the Father says – Remember me and stop wandering about. So, the matter of one place and where has it been applied . What is this matter about? Does it mean that Brahma wanders everywhere? Does the soul of Brahma wander from place to place? (Someone said – No) Does it not wander? He wander about and goes to Gulzar Dadi. He does not wander just to Gulzar Dadi; one cannot say where else he wanders. So, what will happen by wandering? What will happen by getting scattered in the world? Will one become weak? Will one become more degraded or will one achieve the true salvation? One will suffer degradation. So, the Father says – rememeber me; and stop wandering from place to place. This knowledge is for peace. By remembering the Father you will become completely pure. That is all; keep giving this mantra (formula).

One should not accept money from anyone. What has been said? When should one accept money from someone? If someone gives money saying that – accept this; invest some of our money too in the Yagya. Then it is said that – one should not accept. Until when should one not accept? Until he becomes pakka (firm/strong). How will he become pakka? He will become pakka when, for example when a brick is baked in the kiln, it becomes strong. So, similarly, even here, until one gets added in the bhatti, until one gives seven days’ time, until one spends money for his to and fro journey, one should not accept money from him. If one accepts; what will happen if one accepts money from a weak one? That heaven will not be established. It will break. It will continue to remain a hell itself because the income of the weak ones was invested.

Tell them – take a pledge that – we will remain pure; then we can eat food cooked by you. If you do not remain pure, then we cannot take from you. We cannot take your income. There are numerous temples. Foreigners, etc. whoever comes, you can give this message even to them that – Remember the Father. Achcha (Alright). BapDada’s remembrance, love and goodmorning to sweet, long lost and now found children. Omshanti. (Concluded)


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Post18 Jan 2008

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* NO. 358, DATE 4.12.05, AVADI GEETAPATHSHALA

CLARIFICATION OF Murli DATED 17.1.67,

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The date of today’s Murli is – 17th January, 1967. The record played is - the support of the heart should not break (dil ka sahara toot na jaaye). In the Confluence Age to whom have the children given their heart? Children have given their heart to Father. Father only is the support (sahara) of children. So, only those who have a little doubt will say that the support of the heart should not break. And those who have faith need not play this record. What? The support of the heart should not break.

God Shiv speaks to His Shaligrams (i.e. souls). All the human beings know about Shiv and Shaligrams. When Rudra Gyaan Yagya is organized, a big Shivling and small Shaligrams are prepared. Both are incorporeal. Shaligrams are also a memorial (yaadgaar) of the incorporeal souls and Shiv, the ling of Shiv that is prepared, is also a memorial of the incorporeal stage. What does memorial (yaadgaar) mean? Memorials are constructed for something that has happened practically. It means that Shiv has also come in this world and set an example of imbibing the incorporeal stage practically in front of the children. For example the Father gets revealed in front of the children in an incorporeal stage; He is a Supreme Soul, Supreme Father, but other small religious fathers also come in this world in an incorporeal stage. Whom did they too follow? They followed Father Shiv. So, both are incorporeal. The souls are also incorporeal; their memorial is – shaligram and Shiv is also incorporeal; whose memorial is –Shivling. How is it a memorial? Shivling is prepared in large size and what about the Shaligrams? They are prepared in small sizes. Why are such memorials prepared? As the task performed, so is their form that is depicted. A huge task has been performed; hence a huge form has been depicted. Shaligrams are depicted to be small.

Shaligrams are shown to be tied with strings (bandhan). Shivling is not depicted to be tied with a string. It means that the souls get tied in bondages (bandhan), and Shiv does not get tied in bondages. Both are incorporeal. What does it mean? Both of them play such a practical part while living practically in the body that they do not remember their nose, eyes, ears, and all other organs. The ears exist, but not listening even while listening. The eyes exist, but not looking even while looking. So such act of incorporeal stage of the bodily organs that has been shown is depicted in the incorporeal stage.

Now one cannot say ‘Krishna Bhagwaanuvaach’ (God Krishna speaks) because Krishna and Ram are souls only. All these souls enter The Cycle of birth and death. Those who themselves enter The Cycle of birth and death, cannot become God and call their words as the words of God. Only the one, who never gets tied by bondages, can liberate others from bondages. And the one who liberates from bondages is only God.

God is one. There cannot be many Gods. God is said to be the highest one. So God Shiv speaks (Shiv Bhagwaanuvach) – to whom? Certainly God Shiv would speak to his Shaligram children. If Shiv talks, then, with whom would He talk? Would He talk to the body conscious ones, or if He is Supreme Soul Shiv, would He talk to the soul concscious children? He would talk to the soul conscious children. So, it has been asked – If God Shiv speaks, then to whom? Who will listen to Him? It means that the body conscious bulls (deh abhimaani saandey) will listen to the versions of Shiv through one ear and keep leaving it through the other ear. They will not pay attention. Who will listen to? Those who listen will complete the task. What task will they perform? Father comes to transform the hell into heaven. So those, in whom body consciousness remains, i.e. those souls, which take lesser number of births cannot perform the task of transforming the hell into heaven.

The souls, which take 83 births, 82 births, cannot undertake the task of establishment of heaven; they cannot create the world that is perfect in 16 celestial degrees. Why? It is because they themselves take lesser number of births. Suppose, a soul is destined to take 83 births; so, how many celestial degrees would a soul, which takes 83 births possess? It would be perfect in 15.75 (i.e. 15 and 3/4th) celestial degrees, would it not? 1/4th of a celestial degree would get reduced, would it not? So they themselves possess lesser celestial degrees. How can they create a perfect world? They cannot extend cooperation to the Father in creating a perfect world. So they do not become soul (conscious) at all. Body consciousness remains in them to some extent or the other. In whom? Body consciousness remains to some extent or the other in the souls, which take lesser number of births. Body consciousness remains in them means that they do not become souls completely at all. They do not attain the soul conscious stage, the stage of a soul at all. That is why those children are not useful to the Father. They are not the Father’s children. Father’s children are those, who attain the stage of being perfect in 16 celestial degrees, completely non-violent, Maryadas Purushottam (highest among the human beings in following the code of conduct), take complete 84 births and play an all round part on this world stage. It means that they become a perfect soul.

So I talk to those perfect souls. I speak to them. For example it has been said about Brahma. What has been said? I talk to you children, this Brahma listens in between. That is, to whom does He speak? He does not speak to Brahma, although He has taken the basis (aadhaar) of his mouth. Then, why has He taken his basis? It to narrate (knowledge) to the children. Why is it ‘to narrate to the children?’ Brahma’s soul is sitting nearer. It would listen first. Then why does He not speak to him? He does not speak to Brahma because – this soul, the soul of Brahma, is unable to attain the complete soul conscious stage first. What? When the four and a half lakh souls attain the soul conscious stage, then that soul would attain (the soul conscious stage). It means that the four and a half lakh souls would take birth first and then the first number would be that of Krishna. So that soul does not attain the appropriate soul conscious stage because it has to assume a subtle body
...(to be continued)

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VCD* NO. 358, DATE 4.12.05, AVADI GEETAPATHSHALA

CLARIFICATION OF Murli DATED 17.1.67,

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... So the Father explains to the spiritual children. Any matter is explained only to the one who completes the task. Any matter is narrated to such a person, who can understand it. If someone listens but does not understand anything, then it is useless to narrate. And if the narration goes waste, if he has not understood at all, then the task is not going to be completed. So even the soul of Brahma belongs to which category? Does it belong to the category of those with a childish intellect (bachha buddhi) or is it a soul like the Father? It is a soul belonging to the category of those with a childish intellect. Brahma Baba was able to remember only those matters, which were narrated through his mouth. Apart from this, it does not fit into his intellect as to what is the deep meaning of that matter.

So the Father has explained to the spiritual children – now the children have connection only with the Father. What? Who explains? The Supreme Soul. Brahma is not the one who explains. This has been said in the path of worship.What? Krishna Bhagwaanuvaach (God Krishna speaks). It means that the soul of Krishna in the form of Brahma is not the one to explain in the last birth. The one who explains is ShivBaba. So, with whom is your connection? Our connection is with Father Shiv.

With whom does our intellect get connected? Does it get connected with Father Shiv and who would the intellect of those, who take lesser number of births, get connected with? Hm? It would get connected with Brahma Baba. Shiv spoke through the mouth of Brahma Baba; so, the intellect of the listeners, those who possess lesser number of celestial degrees, those who take lesser number of births, would get connected with Brahma only. They are not the souls that rise above that level and your intellect gets connected with the Father because you are spiritual children. Your connection is not with Brahma. What? It means that - who are they connected with? Their connection is with Brahma. Who? Those who do not become spiritual children. And your connection is with Father Shiv. You maintain connection with Father Shiv and do they not maintain a connection with Shiv? Why don’t they maintain? (A Brother said – they possess lesser number of celestial degrees, isn’t it…) Yes, it is because those who possess lesser degrees of soul consciousness will reach only up to mother. They will not be able to connect with the Father, the spiritual Father at all. So you do not have connection with Brahma because the purifier of the sinful ones (patit-paavan), the ocean of knowledge, the bestower of the inheritance of heaven is one Father only.

Brahma would not be called the purifier of the sinful ones. What? How do those, who are sinful ones, the sinful souls become pure? They become pure through the colour of the company and how did those, who were pure souls in the Golden and Silver Age, become sinful? They became sinful through the influence of the company. Souls become sinful in somebody's company only, and they become pure only in somebody's company, but in whose company do they become sinful and in whose company do they become pure? In the company of one Father, who is the highest, they will become pure. If they keep coming in the company of many others, then the time will be wasted and the number will go backwards. They will not be able to imbibe the soul conscious stage, which they should imbibe. It means that they will come down from the first generation only. So, those who belong to the first generation should come in the Suryavanshi generation (belonging to the Sun dynasty), is not it? Sun takes The Knowledge first. From whom? From God. Even in Gita it has been written that when God narrated The Knowledge, then He first of all narrated it to Sun. So, who will Sun narrate The Knowledge to? (Someone said – to the Moon) First Sun…..Hm! Why would he narrate to the Moon? Sun will first of all narrate to his children belonging to the Sun dynasty. He will narrate to the direct children of Sun and explain only to them. They will only understand. Others will not be able to understand that knowledge at all.

So you do not have any connection with Brahma because the purifier of the sinful ones is one Father. Brahma does not purify the sinful ones. He is himself sinful. Brahma’s soul is still depicted in the form of a half moon (ardha-chandrama). Where? On the forehead (mastak) of Shankar. That is why one of the names of Shankar is ‘Chandrabhaal’. What? Moon decorates his forehead (bhaal); that is why he has been named ‘Chandrabhaal’. So that Moon is not purifier of the sinful ones. Although he has been given a place on the forehead; he is a very dear child of Baba. Yes, but, but the task is not going to get accomplished through him. Through whom is the task going to be accomplished? Through you children, through the Suryavanshi children. The moon of knowledge Brahma, i.e. the soul of Krishna is not the purifier of the sinful ones. He is also not the ocean of knowledge. What? Wherever there is depth of knowledge, gems can be found in those depths (gahraaiyaan). So gems are found in the ocean. So the Moon does not contain gems (ratna). What contains gems? The ocean of knowledge contains gems. So he is not the ocean of knowledge also.

Brahma is not the one to give the inheritance of heaven. The giver of the inheritance of heaven is one Father Shiv only. It is He that one should remember. Him (unko). One should not remember this one (inko), i.e. Brahma. There is so much difference between unko and inko. Unko means that he has been distanced. A hint has been given towards the part that is going to arrive in future or a hint has been given towards the one who was in the past, the one who was in the past, through whom a seed of knowledge was laid in Brahma, the senior mother (badee Maa). So he is the purifier of the sinful ones. Why? How is the one, who was in the beginning a purifier of the sinful ones and how is the one who will be in the end the purifier of the sinful ones? Why both? If the one, who was in the beginning, is the purifier of the sinful ones, then nobody has got transformed from a sinful one to pure one. Hm? And if the one in the end is said to be the purifier of the sinful ones, even then nobody has got transformed from a sinful one to a pure one. But, even then it can be said that the time is not yet over. What? When Brahma left his body, then it could be said that Brahma left his body; now there is nobody to purify the sinful ones. So here it is not that matter
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VCD* NO. 358, DATE 4.12.05, AVADI GEETAPATHSHALA

CLARIFICATION OF Murli DATED 17.1.67,

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... ShivBaba does not die. What? ShivBaba takes birth. ShivBaba does not die. ShivBaba's birth is famous, but His death anniversary (mrityu divas) is not famous. That is why in the path of worship also Shankar is shown to be immortal (amar). Shankar is called Amarnath (immortal). So the personality (vyaktitwa) of the beginning of the Yagya, in whom the Supreme Soul had entered and sowed the seed of the matters of knowledge; a laundry (dhobighat) was being run through that soul in the beginning of the Yagya also. What? It is not that the dhobighat functions only in the end. The task of cleaning the cloth-like bodies was undertaken in the beginning also and it is being undertaken even now. It has been said in the Murli - there was a dhobighat in the beginning also. There is a dhobighat in the end also and this dhobighat would keep functioning till the end until the task of purification of the impure ones does not get accomplished.

So this task also has to be undertaken by him only. It means that Brahma is not supposed to perform this task. Brahma is his lucky Chariot (bhaagyashaali rath). What? Lucky, the one, who was termed ‘his’ (unka) just now. His lucky Chariot is Brahma. Brahma is his lucky Chariot. Whose? Hm? (The Chariot, which is going to arrive in future) Yes. It is his lucky Chariot. The Father gives inheritance through the Chariot only. Which inheritance is to be received? Hm? The inheritance of jeevanmukti (beatitude), i.e. the inheritance of heaven is received through the Chariot. So, which is that Chariot? Which is that Chariot? That body of Brahma has been lost. Hm? Then the inheritance is given through him. Hm? The Father gives inheritance through the Chariot only. Brahma is is his lucky Chariot. So, which is the lucky Chariot, through which the inheritance is given? (Someone said – the mukarrar rath, i.e. the appointed/permanent Chariot) Yes. The Father gives inheritance through the Chariot only. Brahma is not the one to give inheritance. It means that the soul of Brahma is not the one to give inheritance. He is the one to obtain inheritance. What? When the soul of Brahma takes birth in the Golden Age, it would receive inheritance from its Father. He is not the one to give inheritance to anyone. He would give inheritance to his child in the Golden Age. Brahma does not give inheritance to everyone.

So children must consider themselves to be souls and remember the Father. What has been said? Why has all this explanation (samjhaani) been given? It has been given because - the aim of the children is not to get transformed from a man to Prince and to take birth in heaven. What should one get transformed from a human being to? One has to become Narayan. One must get transformed directly from a human being to a deity in this birth itself - this is the goal of you children and what about Brahma? Brahma did not get transformed from a man to Narayan at all. What does he get transformed from a human being? First he would go and take birth as a child. He would become a Prince. Thereafter, when he would grow up, he would get the title of his Father. So children must consider themselves to be souls.

Brahma Baba could not imbibe the soul conscious stage in that form. It means that Brahma Baba could not practise considering himself to be a soul as much as you children practice. One must consider himself to be a soul and remember the Father. For example, suppose the Chariot faces some problem or if the children do not get Murli due to some or the other reason (kaarney-akaarney); it is a Vani of 1967, is not it? It is a Vani of 1967. So it has been said - Suppose, the Chariot faces some problem, or if children do not get Murli due to some or the other reason, then cannot children narrate Murli on their own?

The entire attention of children goes towards ShivBaba. What? When the Murli is being narrated, then where is the entire attention of the children directed? Is it directed towards Brahma or towards Father Shiv? The attention of those, who are children, will go towards Father Shiv, and the attention of those, who are not children, will go towards Brahma. As for the rest, ShivBaba can never fall sick. What? That the Murli stops. ShivBaba will not pass through any such disease, which prevents Him from narrating Murli. ShivBaba sends Murli to children in every circumstance. If He is not in the body of Brahma, He can narrate Murli through some other nice child. What has been said? (Someone said - through a nice child) Yes. Through some other nice child. It means that Brahma is not the only nice child. There are some other children also, who are equal to Brahma, through whom the Murli could be narrated. Other children have received so much knowledge that they can also explain. They explan so much in the exhibitions. Knowledge is contained in the children, is not it? The Knowledge of pictures is contained in everybody's intellect. There cannot be any hindrance (atak) for children. Suppose, the Murli that comes through post; the receipt and dispatch of that post stops due to some or the other reason or if the Post Office officials go on strike, then what will you do? Knowledge is contained in the children, isn’t it? It is not true that if children do not get Murli, they will die. It means that if the spiritual children of spiritual Father do not get Murli even for 2, 4, 8 days, then it will not make a difference for them. The Knowledge that is contained in their intellect due to soul conscious stage, that knowledge is of such a stage that they will keep churning in their mind.

So The Knowledge of pictures is contained in you children. Knowledge is contained in the children. It must be explained - There was a Golden Age. Now it is an Iron Age, old world. There is a song also - there is no essence (saar) in this old world. One must not be attached to it. What? What does 'saar' mean? There is not essence in this world. Then, which world is essenceful? What is meant by 'saar' and why has the world become nissaar (worthless)? What is saar? There is no essence in this world. So where is the essence? What does saar mean? Essence. (Someone said - essence) Yes. So which world is essenceful? There is essence in the new world and there is no essence in this world. ‘There is no essence’ means that there is no fragrance (khushboo), i.e. no pleasure (sukhh). Saar (Essence) means pleasure and nissaar (worthless) means 'only sorrows'. Momentary (kshanbhangur) temporary pleasure and remaining period involves wandering (bhataknaa). Just sorrows
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VCD* NO. 358, DATE 4.12.05, AVADI GEETAPATHSHALA

CLARIFICATION OF Murli DATED 17.1.67,

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... So there is no essence (saar) in this world. One should not get attached to it. What? When there is no essence at all, when there is no essence at all, then one should not get attached to it. What should one get attached to? What was the record played? The support of the heart should not break (dil ka sahara toot na jaaye). So, this world or the people of this world are not the support (sahara) for the heart. Body and the relatives of the body cannot become supports for our heart. The support for our heart is one ShivBaba and none else. One should not get attached to the world. Otherwise one would get punishment (sazaa) Hm! He is frightening. Through the remembrance of Father the punishments will keep getting destroyed and through the remembrance of bodily begins, the punishments will keep increasing. It should not be the case that – the remembrance of the Father breaks and then one suffers punishment and while suffering punishments takes rebirth in the old world. Many have departed like that. There are many children who forgot the Father; their intellect started enjoying the world; they left their bodies. As were the thoughts in the end so was their fate. They entered the old world. There are many who do not even remember the Father. They do follow the path of knowledge, but the remembrance of Father is lacking. The attachment is towards the old world only. You have heard the song also – This time is very bad (yah zamana bahut kharaab hai). Even if one does not desire, people attract the heart. Even if one does not wish to get attached to the world, some or the other such person comes in between or creates an obstacle that they attract our heart towards them. If you get attached to anyone then you will suffer a lot of punishments.

The Knowledge is very nice in this song. Children must listen to knowledge only. What has been said? Children must not listen to songs. What should one listen to? One must only listen to the songs, which contain knowledge. What? One must not even listen to the songs from the path of worship. What? The songs of the path of worship, which are played; suppose the songs of Ganesh are being played somewhere; the songs of Shankar are being played somewhere; then the songs of bodily beings, which are being played, although they are (songs of) deities, if you sing their songs, then who will you be reminded of? You will be reminded of those deities possessing bodies only. So then the stage will keep going up or down. (Someone asked - what about the BK songs?) If there are BK songs, then are they accurate? Are they the songs containing knowledge? Are the songs, which remind us of Brahma Baba accurate? Would the stage not come down through those songs? If you remember Brahma, then would your fate not be like that of Brahma? As the person whom we remember, so will be our fate.

So one must not at all listen to the songs of path of worship. What? That is why in one of the Murlis it has been said- one should not listen to songs. Actually, we must not even sing songs. (A Brother said – But while remembering the Father, we can play the songs to avoid other sounds, can’t we?...) OK, when a mother remembers her child, does she beat the drum to remember her child?.. When Father remembers his son, who has gone to London, does he remember him by playing songs? He does not play songs, is not it? So that is original remembrance; that can be possible and should you beat the drums here to remember Father? It means that you have not recognized Father at all. You have not recognized till now the form of Father, what He is, as He is, in whichever form He is playing his role. That is why you play songs, play tunes, create an atmosphere (maahaul) and sit in nishtha in collective remembrance by folding your hands and legs. Otherwise, one should remember while performing actions.

Now the path of worship is going to end (murdaabaad, i.e. down, down) What? People keep singing the prayers (keertan) in the path of worship; they keep playing jhaanjh-majeera (musical instruments); they keep remembering God – what is going to happen to all this path of worship (Bhaktimarg)? It is now going to be ‘Murdaabaad’. Or is the world going to continue like this? Hm? Will this world end or not? It will. It has to end. So when we know, on the one side we even say that the destruction is staring at us. So the person who is telling that destruction is staring at you (i.e. very near) and he himself is beating the drums, dancing, and then will anyone believe that destruction is very near? It is a doublespeak, is not it? So one must not sing songs; actually one must not even listen to songs. The Bhaktimarg is going to be murdabaad.

Now you are in the Confluence Age (Sangamyug). Through the ocean of knowledge Father (Gyaan Saagar Baap); what? Until when is the Confluence Age? Now you are in the Confluence Age and until when is that Confluence Age? The true Confluence Age exists until (Someone said – until we are alive) Yes, until we keep drinking from the Father. Now you are in the Confluence Age. You receive knowledge through the Ocean of knowledge Father in the Confluence Age. What? When it is the Confluence Age, then through whom do you receive knowledge? You receive knowledge through the Father and when it is not the Confluence Age, when it is other Ages, one receives knowledge through the bodily gurus. One does not receive knowledge (gyaan); one receives ignorance (agyaan). One receives ignorance through the bodily gurus and one receives knowledge through the Father. Nobody knows in the world at all that the giver of knowledge is only one. Remaining are the oceans of Bhakti. What? Bhakti comes from Ravan and knowledge comes from one Father
...(to be continued)
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VCD* NO. 358, DATE 4.12.05, AVADI GEETAPATHSHALA

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... So the bestower of true salvation (sadgati daataa) is 'one' only. Then one must follow His opinion only. What? One must follow the opinion of the bestower of the true salvation only. One must not follow his (i.e. Brahma's) opinion also because many children used to come (to Brahma), they used to be disturbed (pareshaan), the members of their family used to pester them to marry. So they used to come in front of Baba and start crying that the members of our family are forcing me a lot. I would have to marry at any cost. So Baba’s heart used to melt and Brahma Baba used to give them permission - OK, child you can marry through the process of Gandharva marriage. Hm. He got married through Gandharva marriage. Well, on the other side it has been said in the Murli – shaadi barbaadi, i.e. marriage means ruination of one's life. On the one side marriage has been termed ruination and on the other side he sought permission from Brahma Baba (to get married). So did they seek permission from Brahma Baba or ShivBaba? They sought permission from Brahma Baba. ShivBaba has said directly in the Murli – marriage means ruination of one's life. When He has already said this in the Murli then where is the need to ask?

(Someone asked – If Brahma Baba commits mistake….) Hm. (So does not ShivBaba become responsible for him?) Yes, He owns the responsibility. It does not mean that Brahma should be made one's Guru. Is there only one Guru here or many Gurus? Here the Guru is one. The bestower of true salvation is one. It has not been said – the bestower of true salvation are two. Who would cause the true salvation of the intellect? Will the Father, who is the highest among the intellectual ones, cause the true salvation of the intellect or would anyone else do it? The Father would cause the true salvation of the intellect. After the true salvation of the intellect, after the true salvation of the mind and intellect-like soul, the true salvation of the body would take place. Will the true salvation of the non-living thing take place first or the true salvation of the living soul would take place first? First the true salvation of the living soul would take place.

So the bestower of the true salvation is 'one' only. So then we have to follow his opinion only. You are not following it now. You have to follow. What? Such situations will come; such circumstances will emerge that we will certainly have to follow the directions of 'one'. Maya does not leave anyone. Maya chases in such a way that - we wish to follow the Shrimat and we wish to avoid the opinion of the human beings, we wish to avoid the opinion of the mind, but Maya attracts us.

Everyone keeps committing mistakes. Only after coming into body consciousness one commits some or the other mistake What? What is the reason that has been mentioned for the occurance of mistakes? Body consciousness of some or the other type emerges. When that body consciousness emerges, it causes us to commit mistakes. If the soul consciousness remains always; I am a point of light soul; to whomsoever we speak, he/she is also a point of light soul, then we will never commit any mistake. Sometimes one succumbs to sex-lust, and sometimes one succumbs to anger. One commits mistake. A lot of storms (toofaan) arise in the mind also. What? It is not that if someone succumbs to sex-lust, then the sin of sex-lust is committed only through the bodily organs. The sin of sex-lust first emerges in the mind. First the mistake is committed through the mind, then it translates into words and then it translates into actions. A lot of storms arise. Expressing love, doing this; one must not develop attachment for anyone's body.

Father says-consider yourself to be a soul, then the consciousness of the body would also not remain. Otherwise it is a violation (ullanghan) of Father's order (aagyaa). In which matter? By not considering oneself to be a soul, the violation of order will certainly take place. One suffers a lot of loss due to body consciousness. That is why one must forget everything including the body. One must forget the relatives of the body also. One must not have attachment for all those things also, which are connected with the body. Remember only the Father and remember the home.

Now our journey is over. Now our journey (musaafiri) in the dirty kingdom of Ravan is going to end. Now we have to go to the Father. What has been said? Where do we have to go? Hm? (Someone said – we have to go to the Father) We have to go to the Father! Arey! Through whose body is this Vani being narrated? The Vani is being narrated through the mouth of Brahma and the listeners are listening sitting in front of Brahma. Then why has it been said that – now we have to go to the Father? We have to rememeber Him only. Why has He been distanced by saying ‘unko’ (him) while Brahma was sitting in front of the children only? ShivBaba is narrating Murli through his body. (Everyone said – in future....) Yes. A hint has been given that – now you haven’t reached near the Father. Now you have reached near the Mother. You have not yet reached near the Father. You would reach.

We have to remember that Father only. We must not remember this Brahma. The Father explains to the souls – remember me while performing actions through the body. What does He explain? He does not explain you to tie your arms and legs and sit. What should be the practice? The devotion should be such that - although we keep performing our work, but even while performing work, the heart should be directed towards Father. Then your sins would get burnt. The path is very easy.

He also explains that you keep committing mistakes, but it should not happen that you get entangled in the mistakes only. Everyone commits mistakes, but one case is that where a mistake is committed and it is rectified immediately. For example, someone learns to drive a cycle and while learning to drive a cycle, if the break gets applied, if something happens, and he falls down, and if he continues to remain in a fallen state, then it will be said that he failed. He lost courage. So no. What has been said? Everyone commits mistakes, but what should be done? One should rectify the mistake immediately. It should not be the case that you get entangled in mistakes only. You must catch hold of your ears that I will not commit this mistake again. The children must make efforts to become flawless (abhool). If the mistakes are committed again and again, then it should be thought that I alone continue to suffer loss
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Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* NO. 358, DATE 4.12.05, AVADI GEETAPATHSHALA

CLARIFICATION OF Murli DATED 17.1.67,

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... It is only after committing mistakes that one has got degraded, is not it? Look, you have moved down such a big ladder and now you have got transformed from what to what? Earlier we did not have this knowledge. Now everyone has become proficient in The Knowledge numberwise as per the efforts. What? Earlier there wasn't this much knowledge. Which time does ‘earlier’ refer to? When we were in the world, then this sentence applied to the BKs. When we were in the world there was worldly knowledge. This basic knowledge of ShivBaba given through Brahma was not available (at that time). Now this knowledge is available. This matter has fitted into the intellect and now after entering the path of Advanced Knowledge, we understand that the basic knowledge does not carry any weight. The Knowledge that one is receiving now is very deep. So now we have become proficient in knowledge numberwise as per our efforts. Everyone has not become proficient equally. What? Even in The Knowledge everyone has not become clever equally.

As far as possible one must be antarmukh (i.e. inwardly oriented). What? Why do more mistakes happen? It is because one becomes body conscious, outwardly oriented (bahirmukhi). One does not remember the soul present within the body. When one starts thinking about the external body, mistakes keep happening. So, if you remain inwardly oriented as far as possible, then lesser number of mistakes will happen. One should not say anything with one's mouth. What? There are many such mothers, who do not remember ShivBaba in their mind. Then what do they say? They utter - ShivBaba, ShivBaba, ShivBaba, ShivBaba - through their mouth. So if you utter through the mouth, then the internal voice, which should reach (Father), will not reach. The physical sound does not reach the subtle Father. We have been creating the physical sounds since 63 births. We kept performing rites (kriyakarma) rituals (karmakaand) of the path of worship. But that does not cause any benefit. So ours is a matter of the mind.

One should not listen to songs etc. also because now we are enemies of path of worship. What? So does it mean that - are those, who listen to songs etc. and are remembering ShivBaba while listening to songs etc and playing the record (i.e. songs), friends of Bhaktimarg or are they enemies of Bhaktimarg? They are still maintaining friendship with those belonging to the path of worship and those belonging to the Ravan community. Now we need not have any friendship with those belonging to the path of worship. Now the path of worship has become our enemy. It is even said - the path of worship has become our enemy and what do we say? Path of worship (bhaktimaarg) and path of knowlede (gyaanmaarg). Gyanmarg zindabad (long live), Bhaktimarg murdabad (down-down). We wish to destroy the kingdom of Ravan. What? We do not wish to continue this kingdom of Ravan. What do we want? We want this world of divergent opinions (mat-mataantar) to end. Kingdom of many opinions means a kingdom of many heads of Ravan and we want the kingdom of one. The entire world should follow the opinion of one. So we want to destroy (the kingdom of Ravan), then how can we develop attachment for that world?

This body also belongs to the community of Ravan. What has been said? How is it so? This body also belongs to the Ravan Community. How is it so? Hm? No. It has been described to belong to the Ravan community because - the tradition (rasam) of 'Shaadi barbaadi' (marriage means ruination) has evolved in the Ravan community. 'Shaadi barbaadi' did not used to exist in the Golden Age and Silver Age. There were no celebrations (shaadmaana) there. Ever since the path of worship has commenced, ever since the Copper Age has commenced, these celebrations have begun. So this tradition of celebrations is a tradition of the kingdom of Ravan. Until this kingdom of Ravan exists, the people belonging to the Ravan community would exist. We cancel the institution of marriage itself. What? Shaadi, i.e. marriage means barbaadi, i.e. ruination.

So why should we remember the Ravan community at all? We have to remember one Ram only. The Father says - Remember me. Then your sins would get burnt ... The second page of the Vani dated 17th January, 1967. They would not remember even their body. What has been said? For example a Pativrata woman remembers her husband alone. She does not remember her body also. So we would not remember our body also although a soul loves its body more than anything else. Then it loves the Father or the husband, but our matter is unique (niraali). We do not have to remember our body also. We should not remember even our body; we should not remember the body of anyone. We have to renounce everything including the body. Then why should we get attached to the bodies of others? If we have attachment (laagat) for anyone, then we would certainly keep remembering him or her.

What is the sign of attachment (lagaav)? The intellect will repeatedly get attracted towards that side only. We would wish to remember Baba and the intellect would run towards the persons with whom it is attached. Then one will not be able to remember God. What? If someone has developed attachment for any bodily being (dehdhaari), then he would not remember God. If they break the promise (pratigyaa), then one has to suffer a lot of punishments. The more the punishments one suffers, the more degraded will be the post. A similar thing happens in the world also. What? Those who suffer long-term punishments (i.e. imprisonments) are not given high posts. He would not be made a big Officer. They are sometimes not allowed to stand for elections also. So it has been said - the post gets degraded. That is why one must remember the Father as far as possible
... (to be continued)
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VCD* NO. 358, DATE 4.12.05, AVADI GEETAPATHSHALA

CLARIFICATION OF Murli DATED 17.1.67,

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... aya is very deceptive (dhokheybaaj). Hm? What has Maya been described as? It repeatedly deceives and makes us fall down. Maya's job is to convert souls towards its side. So it would adopt 20 ways to convert. One must keep saving oneself from Maya under any circumstance. The disease of body consciousness is a very big disease (beemaari). The Father says - now become soul conscious. What is the difference between 'deh' and 'dehi'? 'Deh' means body and 'dehi' means the one who assumes the body. Who? Soul. So remember the Father, then you would get rid of the disease of body consciousness. People remain in body consciousness throughout the day. Those who remain in body consciousness throughout the day hardly remember the Father.

Baba has explained – ‘Kam kaardey aur dil yaardey”. It means that - keep working with your hands and keep remembering the Father in your heart. For e.g. there are lovers (aashik-maashook); they keep doing their job and keep remembering each other. So their intellect does not remain that much busy in the job. Where does the intellect go? It goes towards each other, i.e. towards the lover/beloved. You are also the lovers (aashik) of one Father. You keep doing business etc. and keep remembering your beloved one (maashook). The body conscious people remember the body. They are body conscious lovers. And what about you? You are not body conscious lovers. Your beloved one (maashook) is also spiritual and you lovers (aashik) are also spiritual. They are body conscious lovers.

So, one must save oneself from the deception of Maya. Otherwise one will get entangled. One would get entangled and die. What? One will even get entangled in a bodily being and then what will be the result? One would even die. It means that the faith on Father will be lost. When one gets entangled then there will be defamation (glaani) also. What has been said? If one gets entangled and dies, then that is not the end of it. What would happen next? Then they will be subjected to defamation within the Brahmin family also and they will be subjected to defamation in the world also. And then there will be a huge loss. News keeps coming from many centers. What? News comes to Baba from the centers. What? A Brahmani gets attached to someone. A Brahmin develops attachment for a Brahmani. A student develops attachment for another student. Virgins develop attachment for virgins. Mothers develop attachment for mothers. So, the news keeps coming from many centers.

They think that – Baba has said that – now you do nishtha (remembrance). What? What should be done to end the disease of body consciousness of attachment & inclination (lagaav-jhukaav)? Do nishtha. Just as you did in Karachi. You used to sit continuously in remembrance only. Whatever happened there was good because one did not used to observe the people of the world at all. “One Baba and none else.” There it was OK. But now we are doing jobs and businesses (dhandhadhori) in the outside world. So we get influenced by the company of the people of the world. So now there should not be the talk of sitting in nishtha. That was done in order to enable the children to make efforts. So Baba enabled them to make efforts. If you do not remember in the day, then remember in the night. At that time you were in bhatti. Now you are not in bhatti. There you did not have any other job at all. And here you have to work for your stomach (i.e. livelihood) also. So, they used to become busy in this (unworldly) income; there was no business at all.

Now the Father says – That bhatti was organized in the drama only once. What has been said? Now such bhatti will not be organized again – you might be guessing that – such bhatti should be organized. The Father says – that bhatti was supposed to be organized only once in the drama. Then many departed from that also.....Similarly, among the rupees (i.e. currency) also one finds good and bad notes. There are notes; some are found to be fake, and some are genuine. .... Even among them many notes get mixed. So even in the foreign countries (vilaayat), people print such (fake) notes and keep deceiving. This cheating (thugee) is going on at so many places. It is a kingdom of Ravan, isn’t it?

First of all it was a kingdom of the Sun Dynasty (Sooryavanshi raajya). Then came the kingdom of the Moon Dynasty (Chandravanshi raajya). Why is Ram said to be Chandravanshi? Hm? Why is Ram said to be Chandravanshi? Hm? Is Ram said to be Chandravanshi in the path of worship? (A mataji said – The king becomes queen....) Dhat! Is Ram said to be Chandravanshi in the path of worship? (Someone said – Raghuvanshi) What do they say? He is called Suryavanshi. arjun means Sun. So he was Suryavanshi. Who calls Ram to be Chandravanshi? Baba is telling about the matter of the beginning of the Yagya that – In the beginning of the Yagya the soul of Ram failed. So when it failed then it has to become Chandravanshi. OK, does the soul of Ram get defeated by Maya or do all the souls get defeated by Maya? Is there any soul of the Golden Age which takes birth in the Golden Age and does not become Chandravanshi in the Silver Age? Hm? Arey! Everyone becomes Chandravanshi. So is it the fault (dosh) of the soul of Ram alone or is it the fault of everyone? (Everyone said – everyone is guilty) That is a fault of everyone. The soul of Ram becomes Suryavanshi in the final exam that takes place in the last. Is it necessary that the one, who fails initially, would keep failing always? He can also pass. There are some such persons also – who fail in the beginning also and fail in the end also.

So it has been said – why is Ram said to be Chandravanshi? It has been asked. Why has he been assigned Silver Age? It has been explained – those who are failures would go to the Siver Age. They would get high post in the Silver Age. Who would get high post in the Golden Age? Those who pass here. If they pass in this birth itself, then they would get kingship in the Golden Age. And if they fail while making efforts in this birth, then they would get kingship in the Silver Age. They might have failed in the beginning of the Yagya also, or they might have failed in the middle of the Yagya and they might have failed in the end. Where will those, who fail, get the fruits (praapti)? They would enjoy the fruits in the Silver Age. So why has Silver Age been assigned (to Ram)? Is it for this reason? Nobody knows about even this. When the Father comes and gives knowledge, the matter would be understood that – why has Silver Age been assigned to the Chandravanshis? This also known only to you Brahmakumar-kumaris alone. What? That why is Ram said to be Chandravanshi? Why has he been assigned Silver Age? Has Ram been assigned just the Silver Age or has he been assigned the Golden Age also?

Ramrajya (kingdom of Ram) is famous. Was it kingdom of Ram or the kingdom of Ravan in the Golden Age? It was a kingdom of Ram. In the Silver Age also it was a kingdom of Ram and in the Golden Age also it was a kingdom of Ram. It means that those who become Lakshmi-Narayan become Ram-Sita in the same number (i.e.sequence). In whicever serial number they become Lakshmi Narayan, they become Ram Sita in the same serial number. The one, who is number one Lakshmi-Narayan, becomes the number one Ram-Sita. If someone becomes Lakshmi-Narayan in the Golden Age in the middle of the serial number, then he would become Ram-Sita in the middle of the serial number in the Silver Age. So you Brahmakumar-kumaris know these matters.

On the one side is entire India. Even in that the Sanyasis are such that just don’t ask. People are very much afraid of the Sanyasis (monks) because they hear that – ‘Satguru nindak thaur na paavey’ (i.e. one who causes defamation to the Satguru would not get place/destination) Now you have received The Knowledge that – which are the Gurus and which Guru’s defamation (ninda) is it and which is the thaur, i.e. place? Which place do those Sanyasis have, which they would not give to those who cause their defamation? Which is that place? The worldly Sanyasis do not have any place called heaven (swarg) although they have built a building at Rishikesh. It has been named – ‘Swargaashram’. Similar is the case with the world of Brahmins. The Sanyasis in the world of Brahmins have left their household (ghar-ghaat); they manage their food (i.e. kitchen) on the basis of the alms (bheekh) that they receive; those Sanyasis also build buildings named Sukhdhaam-Shaantidhaam. What else place do they have? They simply keep frightening. What? That – ‘Satguru nindak thaur na paavey’ (i.e. one who causes defamation to the Satguru would not get place/destination). They are not even Satgurus. Is he a guru or a Satguru? They are gurus. Satguru is said to be one only. So is it a matter of the Satguru, who is famous as ‘one Satguru’? Omshanti.
(Concluded).
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VCD* No.756, Audio Cass. No.1242, dated 12.09.07, at Dhulabari

Clarification of Avyakt Vani dated 06.09.07

Part-I-Eng.


Omshanti. This is a recent Vani of Avyakt BapDada, dated 6th September, 2007. BapDada’s arrival at the time of special Bhog on Thursday, 6th September, 2007. The heading given is - Dadiji has in her hand, the button to open the curtain of revelation. All of you, become co-operative in this.

Today, BapDada, who has the fragerance like rose has become present in front of them (haazira-huzoor) when the children (baalak) who are the children and the masters (maalik) invited Him. BapDada sees every child as the crown on His head. BapDada saw that the beloved Dadi of all of you with her own desire, while remaining in the stage of thoughtless meditation (nirsankalpi samadhi) and spiritual endeavour (sadhana), in order to experience swift unlimited service and to experience the stage of being a companion, a detached observer and of being equal to the Father, reached the Father in the Subtle Region with great love.

What has been said from the point of view of service? Not from the point of view of service in a limited sense, not from the point of view of service like the path of an ant (slow service). But she has reached the Subtle Region in order to experience the fast unlimited service. It means that whatever big programmes that took place or the ones she enabled to organise in a corporeal form, (ranging) from individual service to the (service through) exhibitions, literature, conference or the mega programmes; all that was a limited service and a service through an ordinary path and the revelation of BapDada could not take place by that. So, she understood now, that after leaving the physical body, the subtle body that she has assumed will be able to do fast service. Along with this all of you also experienced this, that the influence of (her) life of unselfish love(nirswaarth pyaar), spiritual endeavour without sinful thoughts (nirvikalp sadhana), detachment from both circumstances and situations and of being beloved to all from beginning to end, without any effort and without having to say, spreaded the vibrations of pure love naturally and easily in this land and abroad. Even without being called, the zeal and enthusiasm is emerging naturally in everyone’s heart to give a response of love. This is the visible impact of loving, co-operative and an equal stage.

In Dadi’s life, there was just one thought: Now, we should spread the sound of the Father’s revelation as quickly as possible. So (through) revelation, through the revelation of Dadi, the first chapter, the short chapter of the revelation of the Godly University and (the revelation) of BapDada, has begun. It has emerged in the form of a question mark in the vision, in the mind and in the hearts of everyone: Who are these people and what is this spiritual university? What was the name given to the institution that Brahma established? From the year 1947 and until Mama left her body, it was named as ‘Brahmakumari Ishwariya Vishwa Vidyalay.’ Then a reformation was done in the Murlis that: do not write just Brahmakumari, but write ‘Prajapita Brahmakumari Ishwariya Vishwa Vidyalay’ and later on in those same Murlis it was also clarified that the group of Advance Party that will emerge should remove the words ‘Prajapita Brahmakumari’ and name it as ‘Adhyatmik Ishwariya Vishwa Vidyalay’, the name that was revealed from the place Kampil in Farrukhabad.Up until now, Dadi used to oppose the Adhyatmik Vidyalay in her corporeal life. At the last moment she understood that opposition will not work. This is some special personality, who is running this Vidyalay. In spite of so much opposition, the Adhyatmik Vidyalay is progressing fast. So, a question was raised, who are these people? What is this Adhyatmik Vidyalay? This has emerged in the vision, in the mind, in the heart of everyone in the form of a question mark.

First, there is the question: What is this? Then, they receive the answer, “This is who they are.” The answer ‘they are this’ will come in front of them. It has not yet been resolved to those who are raising the question – what is this? Dadi had just one enthusiasm: to do something new, the service should have an extensive form. It means that whatever big programmes were organized at world level upto the level of the megaprogrammes, whatever big conferences were organized at world level, was not the extensive form and it did not have a big impact because in those megaprogrammes and conferences etc. the same white saree-clad few people used to gather.

So, it has been said, that naturally and easily, the big flag of the introduction will be hoisted. Now, all of you have to show an embodiment of love in a practical form and enable this flag of revelation to be hoisted high. Dadi is holding in her hand the button to switch on the curtain of revelation. So, all of you are companions in this, aren’t you? You have a lot of love for Dadi, don’t you? So, just as Dadi became ever-ready and free from attachment (nashtomoha) with her own desire. Did she become like that while living in her body or after leaving her body? (Someone said – After leaving the body). Everyone was standing in front of her, nevertheless, the image that was free from attachment (nirmohi moort) flew away. Did the image (moort) fly away or did the one without an image (amoort) fly away? Here Baba said that the image that was free from attachment flew away; but did the image (moort) fly away or did the one without an image fly away? Amoort means the one who does not have an image. (Someone said – by becoming amoort) The amoort flew away. It was as though Dadi followed Father Brahma. Just as Brahma Baba flew away, similarly Dadi too flew away through the amoort form, i.e. through the subtle body. Did Dadi fly away alone or did any other Brahmakumar-kumari also fly away?

Jagdish Bhai, who had made a resolution: I have to reveal BapDada, but it was mentioned in a trance message that he too could not complete this task. Why could he not accomplish while he was present in his body? It is because he took the resolution of revelation, but it did not strike even his intellect that BapDada will get revealed through the Adhyatmik Vidyalay. So, just as Jagdish Bhai followed Brahma. Even Brahma did not recognize the Father, that who was the corporeal Father who sowed the seed in the beginning of the Yagya? If he had recognized, he would have added the word ‘Prajapita’ to ‘Brahma’ since the beginning itself, which ShivBaba had to say in the Murli later on. In spite of that, even today Brahmakumar-kumaris write themselves as Brahmakumar (Kumaris), but they do not consider themselves to be Prajapita Brahmakumar (Kumaris) because the introduction of the Father did not sit in the intellect of the founder himself, then how will it sit in the intellect of others? Whether it is Jagdish Bhai, whether it is Kumarka Dadi, whether it is Chandramani Dadi, all of them followed Brahma considering him to be the Father
...(to be continued)
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VCD* No.756, Audio Cass. No.1242, dated 12.09.07, at Dhulabari

Clarification of Avyakt Vani dated 06.09.07

Part-II-Eng.


... She passed in the part of “suddenly”. Just as it has been said for Brahma – he left the body suddenly and departed. She departed having given an indication (ishara) about the last lesson to you loveful, affectionate souls too . What was the indication that she gave? Just as Brahma, the senior Didi-Dadis and Dadi (Kumarka) have left thier bodies suddenly – similarly even you all will have to ultimately leave your body, if you won’t be able to recognize the Father who has come in corporeal form. Now think for yourself. What? We could not recognize. The body is gone, the corporeal body is gone, but as long as the corporeal body existed, we did not recognize the corporeal part (of the Father)

Now think for yourself, what is to be done? Think for yourself; how should we become cooperative (sahyogi) in the part of Dadi, where she is holding in her hand the button to open the curtain of revelation. Should we become cooperative through the corporeal body or should we become cooperative after leaving the corporeal body? It will not take time to press the button, but before opening the curtain of revelation, are those who are to hoist the flag of revelation high, the companions, the special actors, ever-ready? Now, do not think that we are the residents of a centre or the residents of Madhuban. This is a limit . We are not the residents of a center or the residents of the Madhuban in a limited sense. We are the servers (sevadharis) of the unlimited world. We are the special actors on the world stage.

Now, together with the revelation of Dadi, the vision of the whole world is on all of you. What has been said? Till now it was BapDada, it was the Father who had to be revealed. Now who has to be revealed first? Dadi; and along with her BapDada is to be revealed – why did He say like this? It means that the souls for whom these words are being specially indicated and spoken, those souls should remember Baba’s Murli, the version in which Baba has said: whoever belongs to whichever religion will accept the versions of (people belonging to) only that religion because he belongs to that religion. So, he will reveal the chief (mukhiya) of that religion first and later that chief will reveal BapDada.

That is why it has been said : with the revelation of Dadi, the vision of the whole world is on all of you. So, it is towards all of whom? The vision of the world (is on) all of you who are called Brahma Kumars or Kumaris, whether you are young or old, you may be an instrument for any task, even if you are an instrument for a small task, but the vision of the souls of the world is on each one of you. Do you feel that you have this much responsibility on you? Or, do you look at the Seniors? Why has this been said? It has been said because all the Seniors are leaving their bodies and becoming Subtle Region dwellers; then who will become the children who will reveal (the Father) in corporeal form? In that case, do you think that the Seniors know?

The power of the gathering is required . This is a spiritual fortress (roohani kilaa). Every brick (eent) of the fortress is responsible. To believe yourself to be a Brahma Kumar or Brahma Kumari means that you are the souls who are instruments for the revelation of this spiritual fortress. Every brick of this fortress is responsible. Whether it is a brick at the bottom, a brick in the middle or a brick at the top, but even if one brick shakes, it affects the entire fortress. If a thief removes one brick of a fortress first, then it becomes easy to remove the other bricks. It becomes easy to sneak/break in into the fortress. So, a hint has been given. What hint has been given? (A hint has been given) that – the fortress of gathering which Dadi has maintained strong till now should not break. If it breaks then you will not be able to reveal Dadi as well as BapDada.

So, now you do have love for Dadi; BapDada has already been forgotten. You have love for Dadi; but whom does Dadi love? You have love for Dadi, and whom does Dadi love? BapDada saw that, in return of Dadi being an image of love, she received unlimited love. However, what is it that Dadi loves now? Dadi says: Put aside the things of yesterday. It means: leave whatever has happened in the past. I did not understand that at all, that which Father was to be revealed and what is Adhyatmik Vidyalay? I did not at all come to know while I was present in the body. Now it has sat in my intellect after becoming free from the bondage of the body. So, Whom does Dadi love? Your love got stuck in Dadi. Dadi says : leave the things of yesterday that whom did Dadi love till yesterday. Whom does Dadi love today – that is a something to be understood. When there was the bondage of the physical body, there was the bondage of the worldly honour (loklaaj).

Just as Baba says for the big gurus, that today, if they understand that God the Father has come in the gathering of Brahmakumar-kumaris, then everyone would spit at them and leave them. So, the gurus have a bondage of worldly honour, don’t they ? They understand from within, that God is not omnipresent; He has come in one (person), but they cannot speak it out . So, Dadi assumed this bondage of worldly dignity until she had a corporeal body. Now the bondage of the corporeal body has been broken, the bondage of the worldly dignity is gone. So, after the bondages are gone, the Dadi is now free. No senior Brahmakumar-kumari can hold Dadi by her neck or ear, that till now you made us to follow like this and now what is it that you are telling us? So, Dadi says : put aside the things of yesterday.

Not even today; but just now, you, who are going to raise the flag of revelation high, show your complete form of a high stage. Then you will be able to reveal BapDada. So, all those who are sitting here now; who might be sitting mourning for Dadi at that time? They might be the firm followers of Dadi herself. So, whoever is sitting now; Dadi was telling them - ask everyone: In order to fulfil my thoughts or Baba’s thoughts, no matter what you may have to transform, what you may have to tolerate, even if you have to have the feelings of mercy, even if you have to make your words (speech) pure, even if you have to make a natural nature of good feelings and good wishes ...

So, Dadi said , ask (them) this question of mine, are they ready to become equal to me? Arey, are you ready to become equal to me? Just like the feelings I have now, put aside the things of yesterday – are you ready to have feelings like me? Feelings towards whom? Put aside the feelings that I had yesterday. Towards whom? (Someone said – BapDada) Towards BapDada and the gathering where BapDada is working; put aside whatever feelings I had for it yesterday . What is my feeling today? So, are you ready to become equal to me? In order to become constant in that feeling, no matter what you have to transform, what you have to tolerate, even if you have to have feelings of mercy, even if you have to make your words (speech) pure, even if you have to make your natural nature of good feelings and good wishes
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. Some words have been added in the brackets by the translator for better understanding of the translation.
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Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.756, Audio Cass. No.1242, dated 12.09.07, at Dhulabari

Clarification of Avyakt Vani dated 06.09.07

Part-III-Eng.


... So, Dadi had said, ask (them) this question, are they ready to become equal to me? Alright, you could not become (equal to the Father) while you were alive; will your followers become (equal to you) now? While you were alive you could not leave your body consciousness. So, it became a memorial in the path of worship, they are (the dead bodies are) buried in the soil of body consciousness. What happens when the vidharmis (souls belonging to religions other than the deity religion) die? The Muslims and the Christians are buried in the soil of body consciousness; they are mixed in the soil. It happens like this in the path of worship. And what happens among the Hindus? They completely burn the body consciousness, the body to ashes so that it does not return again. So, now, after leaving the corporeal body, she is giving the message. What? That you have to fulfil the present thought of Dadi. Are you ready? So speak! Are you ready? You, speak. I could not become ready while being alive in the body.

In order to have good feelings and good wishes for whom? For the Shankar Party. What name we had given to the Adhyatmik Vidyalay? The Shankar Party. BapDada had not given this name! Who had given? It was only the Didi-Dadis, Dadas, and those who call themselves as Brahmakumar-kumaris, who had given this name. Baba never said that Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar are my step-children (sauteley bachchey). These are their separate parties. Brahma’s party is separate; Vishnu’s party is separate; and Shankar’s party is separate. If the Father creates partyism (paartibaaji, i.e. the feelings of belonging to different parties) among those who are the seeds of the world, then what would happen after 84 births? Neither does the Father like this language of partyism nor does he desire for the children that they should create such feelings of partyism. However, what did the narrow-minded (alpabuddhi) children do? They created the feelings of partyism.

So, Dadi asked, so speak! Are you ready to have such good feelings and good wishes while being alive in the body? For whom? (Someone said – Shankar Party) Yes, the party which has been named until now as ‘the Shankar Party’. They did not understand that BapDada, who has to be revealed in practical, is working here. Where? In the Adhyatmik Vishwa Vidyalay. She asked again, so, speak, are you ready? Do not simply raise your hands (to say), yes, we are ready. Think properly before you raise your hands. Raise the hand of the heart. It is not a big thing to raise these physical arms. What? You raised these physical arms, no. Which arms should you raise? Raise your arms for becoming cooperative (in creating) the feelings and good wishes that Dadi now has the Adhyatmik Vidyalay alias the Shankar Party . Don’t raise these (physical) hands. It is not a big thing to raise these (physical) hands. (You may) raise both arms; everyone (may) raise the arms together. This is not a big thing, but in a symbolic way, you still have to raise these (physical) hands.

No matter what happens. What? In doing this, , the worldly dignity (loklaaj), the dignity of the clan (kul kee Maryadas) that I could not cross will certainly come in front of you . In front of whom? Whoever wants to reveal the Dadi first. It means that whoever belongs to whichever religion will believe the words of (persons belonging to) that religion only. So, to which religion do they belong? The Dadi’s followers, who become sad and happy in her mourning , belong to the same religion to which Dadi belongs. So, a hint has been given, whatever may happen, I have to change now. For whose transformation is the special hint being given? A hint has been given to those who remained Dadi’s followers, who remained the followers of the bodily being, that they will definitely have to change. Change (yourself) and then change the talks : “This one is like this; that one is like that, this one is doing this, this one does not speak”. That will be happen , but what should I do? You have to become equal to Dadi, don’t you ? Does it mean that you have to become equal after leaving the body or you have to become equal while being in the body? (Someone said – while being in the body) Was Dadi able to become (equal to the Father) while being in the body? Dadi was not able to become; so, just as the Seniors do, by seeing the Seniors, what will they do? Even the juniors will do the same things. This account is fixed.

Dadi demonstrated by managing so many for so many years. It was not just for one or two years; whether they were old or young, whether they were those who were doing physical work, whether those who were giving lectures, the zonal incharges and she managed even the Dadis and the Dadas She became detached from all of them, didn’t she ? How did this transformation take place? How did this transformation take place? (Someone said something) Yes, she became free from the bondage of the corporeal body, from the beliefs of the corporeal body, the worldly honour, the dignity of the clan. After becoming free that soul can go anywhere in a second. She can also sit in this gathering of the Advance Party and listen.

So, it has been said, she became detached , didn’t she ? Did she remember anybody at the end? Those for whom she made all-out effort to enable to progress; by teaching which knowledge? Which special knowledge did she teach? Those from the Adhyatmik Vidyalay kept saying, the Father has come in a corporeal form and which knowledge did Dadi teach? Arey, the Father had come; he taught us The Knowledge and then departed. Now we will create the new world. Now, no BapDada will come. Worship us. She taught this knowledge, didn’t she ? So, the ones to whom she taught with so much love and interest, when she came to know about the truth, she became detached in a second and departed. What did that prove? (It proved) that Dadi could not become detached while remaining in the body; she could not surrender to the one Father through the mind and intellect but as soon as she became free from the bondage of the corporeal body , to whom did Dadi dedicate(surrender) herself? She surrendered to the practical corporeal part of BapDada through the intellect, through the mind. So, who surrendered first? (Someone said – Maya) But what is the difference? Should she have surrendered while being in the corporeal body or after leaving the corporeal body? She should have surrendered while being in it (Someone said, the corporeal body), then she would have received even the inheritance of the emperorship of the world through the corporeal body. So, this shortcoming remained
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Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.756, Audio Cass. No.1242, dated 12.09.07, at Dhulabari

Clarification of Avyakt Vani dated 06.09.07

Part-IV-Eng.


... So, she became free from attachment in a second. Did she remember anyone at the end? Did she remember the zonal incharge Dadis whom she loved so much, and made them to follow so many directions at the indication of a finger? Did she? She did not. You were standing in front of her. But, if someone has any awareness, then there will be gasping while dying. When someone remembers someone, then the life-force (praan) does not come out, until that one does not come in front of him. You experienced that she remained like a goddess of peace. She showed the practical form of equal feelings, elevated feelings No one else has ever left their body in this way — those who are standing around her and seeing that she is going, she is going. This is the first example in the history. Whose? Dadi’s. The example of what? (The example) that she converted in a second before the life-force came out (of her body). She converted from where to where? The intellect converted from Prajapita Brahmakumari Ishwariya Vishwa Vidyalay to which place? The intellect diverted towards Adhyatmik Ishwariya Vishwa Vidyalay that the Father has come here and this (place) has to be revealed.

BapDada remained in her heart. What? Earlier, while being in the corporeal body she was ignorant. So, whom did she consider as BapDada? She used to consider the corporeal body of Brahma as God of the Gita and at the end? At the end, the external eyes closed and the inner eye opened; so what change was observed (in her)? (A change was observed) that the practical form of BapDada remained in (her) heart, but everyone was in the corporeal form in front of her. Nobody has taken leave like this. Jagdish Bhai, who used to be considered to be a great scholar of knowledge, has also not taken leave like this. Chandramani Dadi has also not taken leave like this. Karnataka’s incharge Tikkan Dadi has also not taken leave like this.So, did you hear what you have to do now? Did you hear? He is asking again and again. Did you listen with attention? You might not come to know of the truth now. And they will not even become aware of it. What? Until they do not listen to BapDada’s clarification in the form of the teacher they will not become aware of the reality (asliyat). Did you listen with attention? Alright, did those sitting at the back hear? What? Those sitting in the front heard; that is OK. Many of those sitting in the front are very old ones. Those old ones who came early ; where did they sit? Did they sit in front and near BapDada or at the back? They used to sit in the front. Did they listen? They heard, but did those sitting at the back hear? i.e., did those, who have come or are coming in the last, hear?

Achcha, those who think that no matter what happens, no matter how much we have to tolerate we have to transform , raise your hand! Alright, is it a firm hand or is it a little like this(Baba demonstrates by raising the hand up and down )? Is it like this ? Raise the inner hand. We will see, take trial whether it is a firm hand or a weak hand. Will you raise? Won’t you ? Will you try? Will you try to raise a firm hand? you are not saying that we will, we will…are you? We will, we will…no. . Very good.

Your message was given to Dadi. When the trance messenger went, the children might have given some message. So, it was said, your message was given to Dadi. Dadi says, I will especially come. What? I will not come in an ordinary form. I will come in some or the other sandeshi (trance messenger), but I will come in a special form and have a heart-to-heart conversation (rooh-rihaan). As regards the rest, the love and the feelings of all of you are so clear in front of Dadi that it is as if it is visible in front of her. She has toured around and has noted what the real stage of someone’s mind is, what is becoming the stage of the mind after Dadi left the body. (Suppose) there is a guru in the corporeal form. Then people obtain directions from him. Then that guru departs leaving his corporeal body. Then what happens to the stage of the disciples? Does it shake or does it remain as it was? It shakes.

So, a hint has been given that Dadi has toured around and noted what really the state of someone’s mind is. She was saying that she will come and say about it. No matter how much someone hides something; what? That we are the unshakeable followers of Dadi. The world may shake, but we are not going to shake. No matter how much someone hides, but Dadi says nobody can hide in the Subtle Region (vatan). What does vatan mean? What does vatan mean? Sukshma vatan (the Subtle Region). Is the Subtle Region above or below? In this world of Brahmins, whoever has a stage of thinking and churning, in whom the souls of inspiriting party are entering, a hint has been given towards that Subtle Region. One may hide one’s mind in the corporeal form, but nobody can remain hidden in front of the residents of the Subtle Region. The yantra (machine) available there is a spiritual yantra (machine). Of where? Those who live in the Subtle Region, the Advance Party which lives in a stage of thinking and churning, in whom the inspiriting party enters and plays a part. What is the special thing mentioned about them? (It has been mentioned) that the machine there is a spiritual one. It means that every one remains constant in a spiritual stage. Their machinary is not physical. Achcha.

To all the children from everywhere who show the practical form of love for Dadi; they forgot BapDada. To those who show the practical form of love for Dadi, just as Dadi showed by following Father Brahma in her corporeal life; whose follower was Dadi then? Whose steadfast follower was she then? Did she remain the follower of the incorporeal point of light Shiv or did she remain as the firm follower of the one, whom the incorporeal point of light Shiv entered in a corporeal form? Whose firm follower did Dadi remain as? Did she remain as a follower of the Vani (versions) that the incorporeal narrated, did she remain as a follower of the Murli or did she remain as the firm follower of the lap of the corporeal (medium) whom He entered? (Someone said : of the corporeal lap) You understand very late!…She remained a firm follower of the corporeal one. She showed by following him firmly in the life. So, to which dynasty does she belong? She belongs to the Moon dynasty. From whom will she receive the inheritance? The firm follower obtains the inheritance from the one whom she follows, doesn’t she ? So, whose inheritance will she receive? From whom will Dadi receive the inheritance? Will she receive from the Sun or will she receive from the Moon of knowledge, Brahma? She will receive from the Moon of knowledge, Brahma. She will be born as his Prince. Even in the corporeal life she used to say : I want to become Baba’s heir and even Baba used to say : Among all these stars it is Kumarka who is taken care of the most. Why? Suppose there is a king and if a son is born in his family, then will he take care of his other subjects (praja) more or will he take maximum care of the son who has taken birth? He will take care of his child. He will take care of the one who follows him firmly. So, she set an example of following him firmly
...(to be continued)
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. Some words have been added in the brackets by the translator for better understanding of the translation.
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