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Post03 Dec 2007

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No. 416, Audio Cassette No.902, dated 09.04.06, Pritampura, Delhi

Clarification of Murli dated 11.02.67

Ref. No.VCD*.,


Omshanti. This is a morning class dated 11th February, 1967. Father can also tell children through Brahma – Good Morning! Children. Which Father? Why is there a need for a media? Certainly the Supreme Soul Father does not possess a body of His own. That is why it has been said - Just as you children can say ‘Good Morning’, you have your own body, but Supreme Soul does not possess His own body. But He can also say 'Good Morning' through Brahma. But when Father says, then children will also have to say. They will have to respond. Here it is a connection between Father and children only. Where? Here, the year being discussed is 1967. He has entered into the body of Brahma and is speaking. It means that it is a matter of Mt. Abu, where Father is sitting in front of children. Until the new (children) become mature (pakkey), they will keep asking some or the other question. What is the indication of the new ones? ‘New’ means that they do not have strong faith. If the children are new, they will have some or the other question in their minds. If they have questions in their mind, then they will keep raising a chain of questions.

The scholars and teachers (vidwaan-aachaarya) are very clever because they have studied the scriptures. Father says – all these scriptures belong to the path of worship (bhaktimaarg). Path of worship means a path of blindfaith (andhashraddha). They are not scriptures of the path of knowledge (gyaanmaarg). Why? Why do all those scriptures pertain to the path of worship? It is because Bhakti (worship) comes from Ravan and Ravan possesses ten heads. They will speak in ten ways with ten heads. That is why all those scriptures of the path of worship cause people to grope in the dark. Knowledge comes from one Father Ram. Knowledge comes from one and Bhakti comes from many. So the scholars and teachers belong to the path of worship. Will they sit at Haridwar or Kashi (Hindu pilgrimage centres) and teach Rajyog? When Father comes, will He sit at the door step (dwaar) of Hari (a synonym for Krishna) or will he sit at Kaashi and teach? They have written that the city of Kashi is very dear to Shankar. They do not know that Shankar is different and Shiv is different. There is such a vast difference between the soul of Shiv, the Supreme Soul Shiv and a deity. Shiv is the one who makes deities. He is the one, who transforms Nar (man) into Narayan. So He is the creator Father. He comes and creates the creation. So it is not a city of Shankar.

It is called Shiv-Kashi. Whose Kashi? Shiv Kashi. Shiv means kalyaankaari, i.e. benefactor. Kashi means a stream of light. Kaashya means the place, which is filled with the light of remembrance. Such is the city of Kashi (another name for the ancient Indian city named Varanasi or Benares). It is said - Shiv Bhola Bhandari lives there. Kashi is situated on the Trishul, i.e. a Trident. Now what is a Trishul, i.e. a Trident? Shool means a needle, an arrow. Which three arrows? Brahma's arrow, Vishnu's arrow of knowledge, and Shankar's arrow of knowledge. When the three arrows come together, then it is said Trishooli Nagari (a city of Trishul or Trident). So, which knowledge will be narrated sitting in the Trishooli Nagari? When the word Nagari (city) has been uttered, then it will not be a city built with bricks and stones. It is said that the city of Kashi is situated on the banks of river Ganga. For e.g. the acts (charitra) of Krishna have been depicted to have taken place on the banks (kantha) of river Yamuna. Kantha means banks of a river. It means that the city of Kashi is very close to Ganga.

What has been said in the Avyakt Vani for Ganga? From where does Ganga emerge? It has been said in the Murli that it emerges from the mouth of a cow (Gau mukh). Then a question has been raised in the Avyakt Vani and left unanswered. From where did Ganga emerge? Did it emerge from Allahabad or Kanpur? (Someone said - From Allahabad) It emerged. There all the three rivers merge to become one river at Allahabad. And all three merge to become Ganga. When Ganga moves ahead, then it assumes the form of a sword (talwaar) at Varanasi. Which form? It assumes a form of a sword of knowledge. For e.g. it is said that the city of Kashi is situated on the banks of a sword-shaped river. So it is not a question of that gross city. There is a virgin or mother, sitting on whose banks the creation of new world is created.

It is said that Rajyog will be taught sitting at Haridwar. Where do the monks, saints and sages (mahatmas) go and gather? They gather at Rishikesh and Haridwar (two holy cities for Hindus situated on the banks of river Ganga). A place called Swargashram (literally meaning a heavenly hermitage) has also been built there. Now, does the abode of heaven (swargdhaam) get ready just by raising the Swargashram made up of bricks? Does it happen so in the Dwaar (gateway) of Hari (i.e. Krishna)? Hari means who? Krishna. What is the name of Krishna in his last birth? Brahma. Which is the city of Brahma? What is the name of the abode of Brahma (Brahmapuri), which Brahma had established? (Someone said – Mt. Abu) One may call it Brahmapuri or Brahmalok. They say that Brahma resides in the Brahmalok. So is it a matter of the physical world? It has been said in the Murli that you children will bring down even the Soul World to this world. It means that there is such a place of penance in this world itself where the Brahmins gather and create such an atmosphere with their perfect stage that any soul reaching that atmosphere will become thoughtless. It will attain the soul conscious stage. Such persons who attain the soul conscious stage and attain a perfect stage are called residents of heaven (swargwaasi).

They say that when one leaves the body then he becomes a resident of heaven. Now it is not a question of leaving the body. It is a matter of leaving the body consciousness in a stage of soul consciousness, in a stage of penance. If we renounce the body consciousness, if we become constant in the self-stage (swa sthiti), then where will we go? Swarga, i.e. heaven. ‘Swa’ means soul. 'g-a’ means ‘went’. Where did he go? He went into a stage of soul consciousness. Those possessing a soul conscious stage are deities
... (to be continued)

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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words shown in italics are Hindi words.
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Post04 Dec 2007

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No. 416, Audio Cassette No.902, dated 09.04.06, Pritampura, Delhi

Clarification of Murli dated 11.02.67

Ref. No.VCD*.,


... So the sages and saints, monks have made that physical city of Haridwar as their abode. They feel that the abode of heaven (swargadhaam) would be established there. Arey! Those sages and monks are sitting at the banks of river Ganga itself. They think that we will attain salvation if they keep drinking the water of river Ganga. What? Not by drinking the water of Yamuna. Not by drinking the water of Saraswati. God comes and speaks through the mouth of Brahma. Mouth of Brahma is a male body. All the male bodies are Duryodhans and Dushasans. The Knowledge narrated through their mouth will not have that much effect. So knowledge narrated through whose mouth will have an effect? When the cow-like mothers, i.e. the virgins and mothers, possessing a nature of being pure, narrate The Knowledge and hold the pot of knowledge in their hands, then it has an influence over the people of the world.

So it has been said that (they feel that) they would gain liberation by drinking the water of Ganges (Ganga jal). Does Ganga emerge first or does Yamuna emerge first or does Saraswati emerge first? Or do all three emerge together? (A Brother said – Baba, Ganga emerges first) It has been said in the Murli – The Gagaas of knowledge emerge in the end. Is the perfection (sampannataa) achieved in the end, in the middle or in the beginning itself? (Someone said – in the end) It happens in the end. (Someone said – as the beginning, so the end). So river Ganga was certainly present in the beginning, at the time of foundation, at the time of sowing the seed (beejaropan) and in the end, the same Ganga emerges once again and after it emerges, it becomes helpful in the Godly task. Ganga’s connection is with the hairlocks of Shankar. Shankar and Ganga. He is called Gangadhar (holder of Ganga). Whom did he hold? He held Ganga. One is a subtle Ganga (sookshma Ganga), the Ganga of knowledge (Gyaan Ganga) and one is a living Ganga (chaitanya Ganga) which imbibes that Ganga of knowledge in practical form, in the practical life. So, the one who imbibed The Knowledge that was narrated through the mouth of Brahma, in her forehead (mastak) is the subtle Ganga of knowledge. It merges in the hairlocks of Shankar.

The entire knowledge was narrated through Brahma till 1968. It has been said about that knowledge in the Murli that now it will not be called Gita Gyaanamrit (the nectar of knowledge of Gita). Why will it not be called? It will be called The Knowledge of Gita, but it would not be called the nectar of knowledge of Gita. Why would it not be called? It is because nectar emerges at a time when it is stirred (bilona), when it is churned. The story of churning of ocean (saagar manthan) is very famous in the scriptures. So the churning of the ocean begins from the brain (mastishka) of Shankar. So all that knowledge, which was narrated at Mt. Abu from 1951 to 1968 permeates the hairlocks of knowledge (gyaan jataaen) or the brain of Shankar, but the benefit of the world does not take place only by the permeation of knolwedge into the intellect of someone. The benefit of the world occurs only when it is understood by the entire world. If it fits into the intellect of one and if it does not fit into the intellect of everyone, then how can He be called the bestower of true salvation upon everyone (sadgati daataa)? So it is said – Bhaageerath performed penance once again. That soul of Brahma enters into the brain of Shankar in the form of the moon of knowledge (gyaan chandramaa) and performs penance and when the term (kaarya kaal) of second personality Shankar finishes, the Ganga of knowledge gets revealed in the world.

In all the pictures of Shankar, a form of virgin (kanya) is shown in the hairlocks. The face (chehraa) of a virgin is shown. A stream (dhaar) of knowledge is depicted to emerge from that face. So the pictures that have been prepared by the artists have been prepared meaningfully (artha sahit). Ganga does not emerge from the hairlocks. If a child is very lovely, then the parents say – this child is seated on my head. The lovely child is made to sit on the head and who is dear (pyaara)? The skin (chaam) is not dear; the action (kaam) is dear. The task (kaam) that could not be accomplished through Saraswati, the task that could not be accomplished through Lakshmi, and the task that could not be accomplished through Yamuna is accomplished by Ganga in the northern India. This Yagya has been going on since last 70 years. Why have the souls of northern India not been able to grasp the Advanced Knowledge so far? It is because there is a lot of importance of the instrumental soul (nimitt). In northern India, Ganga is accorded a lot of respect. That Ganga of knowledge has not got revealed so far. When it gets revealed, then all the scholars, pundits, teachers awaken.

So people keep going to the banks of Ganga and drink its water. They feel that they would achieve liberation (mukti) by drinking its water. Now it is not a matter of water at all. It is a matter of the water of knowledge (gyaan jal). God does not sit on the banks of that water of knowledge, on the banks of the gross water. The incorporeal God needs Chariot. Bhaageerathi is also shown. God came and gave knowledge. Actually, Krishna is not called the ocean of knowledge. What? Krishna is not the ocean of knowledge. Had Krishna been the ocean of knowledge, then the soul of Krishna would have been the God of Gita in the last birth. In which form? In the form of Dada Lekhraj, Krishna alias Brahma would have been called the corporeal form of God, the God of Gita. But, no. Temples are not established for Brahma, idols of Brahma are not prepared; he is not worshipped. It proves that the Supreme Soul Shiv does not become the God of Gita by coming in the body of Brahma.

He comes and becomes the God of Gita through that body, in which the soul of Krishna works in an incomplete form, in the form of a moon, in the form of a half moon and the Shiv Netra (Shiv, depicted as the third eye of Shankar) also enters and performs His task. He is called the God of Gita. The deities become imperishable (amar) by drinking the nectar (amritras) that emerges through that God of Gita through thinking and churning. The imperishable ones are also of two kinds. Amar means the imperishable deities and it is said - ‘Brahman so devata’ (Brahmins who get transformed to deities). The state of Brahmins is such that just now they develop faith and just now they lose faith. Nishchaybuddhi means alive. Anishchaybuddhi means dead. So this cycle of birth and death goes on now.

Which soul enters into The Cycle of birth and death to the maximum extent? (Someone said – Brahma) The one, who is the first leaf of the world, comes in The Cycle of birth and death. It has been 30-32 years since the emergence of Advanced Knowledge and the soul of Brahma enters into the forehead (of Shankar) and imbibes the Advanced Knowledge, obtains it, even then it enters into Gulzar Dadi. It is not able to attain the stage of ‘Nashtomoha smritirlabdha’. So Father says that Krishna is not called the ocean of knowledge. Neither does he possess The Knowledge to teach Rajyog. What? If Krishna alias Brahma had possessed The Knowledge to teach Rajyog, then he would have taught Rajyog and made someone a king, who can control his organs. The main organ among all the organs, for which the Yogis make the maximum effort to control it; which is that organ? Which is that vice? The vice of sex-lust. Which deity is credited with destroying the vice of sex-lust in the path of worship? Shankar has been depicted. It is said – Shankar made such efforts of Rajyog that he destroyed Kaamdev (the deity of desires) through Rajyog. It is thought in the path of worship – Kaamdev must have been some deity, who stands outside. He must be attacking from outside. It is not a matter of outside at all. It is an internal matter. It is a subtle matter. It is a matter of vice. The resolves of the vices that have been experienced in the 63 births get filled in the soul
... (to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words shown in italics are Hindi words.
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Post05 Dec 2007

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No. 416, Audio Cassette No.902, dated 09.04.06, Pritampura, Delhi

Clarification of Murli dated 11.02.67

Ref. No.VCD*.,


... Just as the soul of Krishna plays the role of Brahma in the Confluence Age, similarly the soul of Ram plays the role of Shankar in the Confluence Age. He (i.e. the soul of Krishna) is named as Brahma. Badi Ma (i.e. elder/senior mother). ‘Brahm’ means elder, ‘Ma’ means mother. She crosses the limit in imbibing tolerance. She tolerates the atrocities (prataadanaa) of children throughout the life. While she goes on tolerating, the children cause her heart to fail. But she does not lose her courage. “Deham va paatyaami”, although the body may be lost, “Kaaryam va saadhyaami”, but she would leave the scene only after completing her task. So that soul takes the support of a Brahmin child and then continues its studies. It does not leave the studies. That is why Baba says – those worshippers say – Krishna is God and you children say – Arey! Krishna is studying knowledge now. He is not God. Although the worshippers may get angry, but you tell that the soul of Krishna is studying knowledge now.

Even among the BKs, it would not fit into the intellect of those who are incomplete Brahmins, i.e. worshippers. They would start getting angry. Hey! You don’t accept Brahma to be God? Is he studying knowledge? They would not accept. (A mataji said – If we attack with full force then they do accept). Where is the need for attacking? Is Krishna the God of Gita? It has been said in Murli – Krishna is not the God of Gita. I am the God of Gita. So the one who is the God of Gita, who is called the Gitapati (husband/Lord of Gita); so will the pati, i.e. husband have any form or would he be an incorporeal point? He is only a Father of the point-like souls. There is no other relationship. When that Father of point-like souls enters into a body, then other relationships are established. Among those relationships, one main relationship is the relationship of husband also. So the body of Brahma has been lost. He could not become the Gitapati Bhagwaan through that body. Had he become the Gitapati Bhagwaan through that body, then what would he have been? The entire world would have started accepting that Gita, but till now it has not happened so. Why hasn’t it happened? It is because, the Supreme Soul Father gets revealed in this world in the form of a Satguru to teach the first leaf of the world, but it has not yet fitted into the intellect of that child Krishna’s soul that who is the God of Gita. When this matter fits into the intellect of that soul that the God of Gita is Shiv Shankar Bholeynath; God of Gita is Shiv, who possesses the incorporeal stage, then the benefit of the entire world would take place. The uplifment (uddhaar) of everyone is held-up due to that one soul. When ‘one’ becomes sinful, everyone becomes sinful and when ‘one’ becomes pure, everyone becomes pure. So Krishna does not possess The Knowledge of teaching Rajyog.

This is a study and it is the highest study. The teacher who teaches this knowledge is also the highest one. Brahma Baba had divine visions; who narrated the meanings of the divine visions to him? He did not understand it himself. Had he been the highest corporeal form of Guru, then he should have understood, but he kept wandering. He asked the Gurus; he asked the scholars and teachers at Varanasi; nobody explained to him. So finally, he reached that person whom his intellect had found to be most intelligent on the basis of the experience of his life. That person was his partner, and during his visits to his partner’s place he got the solutions to all of his questions relating to the divine visions. So what does it prove? It proves that – there was a personality (hasti) higher than Brahma in the Yagya, for whom it has been said in the Murli – there were such children, who used to give directions to Mama and Baba, they used to make them perform the drill (of remembrance), they used to sit as teachers; we used to think that they would achieve a high number in the rosary. The same souls of the beginning of the Yagya, who had especially become helpful in the beginning, enter the Yagya once again in the end after Brahma has left his body and through those souls the soul of Brahma, i.e. Krishna begins studying once again.

So the word Bhagwanuvaach is suffixed. God is incorporeal. What? What is the meaning that they infer from ‘incorporeal’? Bindu (a point). Its meaning is not ‘point’. Incorporeal means the one who lives in an incorporeal stage. It is not that God does not become corporeal at all. He becomes corporeal, he takes the support of a human body, but he remains only in the form of corporeal through Brahma because mother is corporeal and Father is seed. Seed means incorporeal, subtle. Baba makes us note this point nicely and firmly in order to explain anyone because on the other side Maya is very strong. What? Which side? That side. And on this side Ram is very strong. They need a lot of followers. What do they want? They organize big programmes- mega programmes. Why do they do that? They do that so as to gather a lot of public. Father says – I do not gather a lot of people. Which dynasty do I bring together? (Someone said – the Sun Dynasty) I want Suryavanshi children (belonging to the Sun Dynasty) and the numerous dynasties, from the Moon Dynasty to the Islamic, Buddhist, Christian, etc.; they are of no use to me. What? They are of no use to me. They will not lay the foundation for the new world which I want.

Those who lay the foundation for the new world are the Suryavanshi children only. That is why it has been written in Gita that when I come, whom do I give The Knowledge first of all? I give The Knowledge to Sun. Why? Why don’t I give it to moon? Why does not The Knowledge, the true recognition of God fit into the intellect of moon? Why does it fit into the intellect of Sun? (Someone said – The moon itself obtains the light from Sun) It is because the Moon does not have knowledge of its own. It does not have light of its own and Sun possesses its own light. It is a soul which keeps thinking and churning The Knowledge since the beginning of the Copper Age itself. It does not fall short of knowledge ever. (Someone said – it does not fall short). It does not fall short. That is why it has been said – ‘Truth never gets destroyed.’ And untruth does not have feet. However much powerful untruth may be, but there comes a time when the falsehood runs away and what about the truthful person? The truthful person remains constant (sthirium).

So, on that side Maya is very strong. They require a lot of followers. Here it is not that case. Here Father says – Even in the Trimurti, those belonging to the path of worship have depicted three lions, but Father says – they are not three lions. What are they? They are not three lions. It has been said in the Murli – among them one is a goat, one is a horse and one is a lion. I neither require the clan of goats, nor do I require the clan of horses. Who do I require? I require the clan of lions, who can speak the truth openly. For e.g. when a lion roars in the jungle, then all other people who possess an animal-like intellect get frightened. I require few. I do not require a lot of people. Father explains – those who have received it in the previous Kalpa will keep coming here automatically. What? There is no need for you to do advertisement for that. You need not run here and there in the temples, Mosques and other places carrying the pictures of exhibition. You need not go on advertising. Doing advertisement is the work of foreigners. People would automatically come running to to the shop of the one who stores good material, the genuine material. The sound/fame would spread everywhere. There is no need to do advertisement for that. So Father says – Those who have obtained in the previous Kalpa, would come automatically. There is no need to even invite them. There is no need to even call them. There is no need to organize various kinds of programmes to attract them.

It should not be the case that – we want that particular Sister/mother. We should go and serve her. That particular Sister/mother is very intelligent. She should not slip out of our hands. We should catch hold of her. No. Father says – whoever wants to go may go. There is no need to catch anyone and make them sit. Who will go? Only those who do not have faith would go. Will the one, who has developed the strong faith that Father has come, leave and go? If she wants to leave, she may leave. What? We are not going to lock-up anyone. Here it is a matter of dying while being alive. What does dying while being alive mean? Dying while being alive means following the Shrimat accurately – this is precisely killing the body consciousness
...(to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words shown in italics are Hindi words.
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Post06 Dec 2007

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No. 416, Audio Cassette No.902, dated 09.04.06, Pritampura, Delhi

Clarification of Murli dated 11.02.67

Ref. No.VCD*.,


...Those who follow the Shrimat firmly do not care for body consciousness. Father adopts such children. Which kind of children? He adopts such children who are ready to sacrifice their life for Shrimat. Children are adopted only to give some inheritance. Even in the world, when people adopt children, why do they adopt them? They adopt so that whatever income they have earned throughout their life could be entrusted to someone. There are so many followers of the Sanyasis (monks). What inheritance do they give? They do not give any inheritance (varsa). Nobody receives any inheritance of mukti (salvation) or jeevanmukti (beatitude) from them. When the Gurus die, the disciples occupy the seat. Nobody receives any inheritance. When the Guru himself could not give any inheritance, then what inheritance would his disciple give? Which path of worship (Bhaktimarg) is being talked about here? Is it the outside world that is being discussed or is it the Bhaktimarg within the world of Brahmins that is being talked about? How? Even in the world of Brahmins, when one Guru, i.e. Brahma Baba departed, they feel that – one Guru has departed; now we will get mukti-jeevanmukti from whoever sits on the throne. Father says – here, there is only one Sadguru. It is not the case that – when he dies, someone else would come and occupy the seat; he would give us mukti-jeevanmukti. No; granting mukti-jeevanmukti is the task of one Father only. It is not the task of any other soul. These Sanyasis etc. cannot adopt to give inheritance.

Children come to mother and Father only in the temptation (laalach) of inheritance. If there is a child of a rich person; will he ever agree to be adopted by a poor person? Hm? He will not agree, is it not? So you children are the children of Suryavanshi Father. So the so-called Brahmakumar-kumaries say – you come and surrender to us. So will you agree to be adopted there? You cannot agree to be adopted because you know that they do not possess any wealth of knowledge. (A mother said – Baba, earlier we used not to understand Murli also. Now we have started understanding). They do not possess any knowledge at all; so why should we surrender to them? So, if there is a child of rich person, will he agree to be adopted by a poor person? Will it be possible to leave so much wealth etc.? It is the rich persons who adopt.

Now you know that Baba is giving us the kingship of the heaven. What? You know. They do not know. They feel - we will leave the body here and depart like Brahma Baba. Then we will get the kingship in the next birth. Suppose if someone brandishes a stick in a dark room saying that he will kill the snake. Does it happen like that? So why will we not become the children of the one who gives us the kingship of the heaven? There is temptation in everything, isn’t it? The more you study, as you go on studying higher courses, your temptation would go on increasing – I should get a higher post. If someone studies in a high school, then it strikes his intellect that – I will anyhow become a peon (chapraasi). Then, when he passess BA, MA, then his temptation increases further. Then if he passes any diploma of medicine, then the temptation increases further. I will earn thousands of rupees. So even here Father gives you the temptation. You also know that Father has adopted us to give inheritance. He has adopted to give which inheritance? He has not adopted to give just the inheritance of heaven. It is to give the inheritance of the kingship of heaven. Father also says – I have adopted all of you once again like 5000 years ago. I have adopted you now just as I had adopted earlier. You also say – Baba we belong to you. 5000 years back also we had become yours.

You are so many Brahmakumar-kumaris in practical form. What is your strength (i.e. number)? (Someone said – we’re many) Hm? (Someone said – we’re many). In practical form. How many Brahmakumar-kumaris are you in practical form? Prajapita is also famous, isn’t it? Brahma is not famous to that extent. Who is famous? Prajapita Brahma is well-known. Where is he well-known? Arey! In the path of worship, in the scriptures the name of Prajapita has appeared, isn’t it? So he is well known, isn’t it? Until you do not get transformed from Shudras to Brahmins, you cannot become deities. You get transformed from Shudras to Brahmins through Brahma and then I transform Brahmins to deities through Rajyog. Brahmins become deities. If they become complete Brahmins then they become complete deities. Incomplete Brahmins (Everyone said – incomplete deities) Not deities. Half caste Brahmins does not mean deities. So until you have not become Brahmins, you will not become deities.

Now this cycle keeps on rotating in the intellect of you Brahmins. What? It is The Cycle that we were Shudras earlier. Now we have become the Brahma’s children, i.e. Brahmins. Then? Then we would obtain knowledge and get transformed from Brahmins to deities. Yours is double machinery. What? Hm? Which is the first machinery? Becoming Brahmins through Brahma and then, after entering the path of Advanced Knowledge, getting transformed from Brahmins to deities. Getting transformed from Shudras to Brahmins is the first machinery. That is the basic knowledge. What happens there? Shudras are transformed into Brahmins. That too numberwise as per individual efforts and then here those Brahmins are taught Rajyog and their organs are given the controlling power numberwise as per individual efforts and then transformed from Brahmins to deities
... (to be continued)

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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words shown in italics are Hindi words.
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Post07 Dec 2007

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No. 416, Audio Cassette No.902, dated 09.04.06, Pritampura, Delhi

Clarification of Murli dated 11.02.67

Ref. No.VCD*.,


... When you become deities, you would rule in the Golden Age. When your rule begins in the Golden Age, then this old world would get destroyed. What? When you become deities, this old world would get destroyed. It is not true that the old world would get destroyed first and you would not be able to become deities. The old world would definitely get destroyed. What? It has not taken place till now; 70 years have passed shouting about destruction, destruction and destruction. (A mother said – Baba, those couples fight). Yes, but it is not so. Destruction would take place, but first you get transformed from human beings to deities. When the faith does not develop completely, then many souls become tired while treading (the path of knowledge) and depart. Who will depart? Those who are unable to develop faith depart. Many children fall. This is also fixed in the drama. Enemy Maya is standing in front of you. She pulls you towards herself. What does she say? Enemy Maya stands in front of you and says – God has not come; and you say – God has come in corporeal form. She says – This cannot be possible and you say that it is true that God has come in corporeal form. Father makes you strong (pakka) again and again saying that – look, do not get entangled in the clutches of Maya. Maya throws a lot of dices. Otherwise, you would spoil your fate.

Father alone can ask this question. What? (Father alone can ask that) had we ever met earlier? (We had met right here) Hm? (We had met right here 5000 years ago) No. We had met at the beginning of the Yagya also. (OK, is that the matter Baba?) Hm? In the beginning of the Yagya also, there were Suryavanshi children (belonging to the Sun Dynasty). The Sun of Knowledge (Gyaan Soorya) was present. The souls of other religions had also entered the Yagya. What? What happened later on? The flame of destruction had been ignited along with the establishment. It has been said in the Avyakt Vani – “Along with establishment, the flame of destruction had also been ignited from the Yagya kund. Who became instrumental? Father Brahma and Brahmin children.” So Brahma happens to be Chandravanshi (belonging to the Moon Dynasty), the Moon of knowledge (Gyaan Chandramaa) and Father happens to be the Suryavanshi Sun and the children, who were Suryavanshi children, became instrumental. In the beginning of the Yagya, that Gyaan Soorya Father and his followers, the Suryavanshi children departed. What has been said? “Alaf got Allah and Bay got Baadshaahi, i.e. kingship.” The ‘Bay’ i.e. the entire kingship was given to the bhaageedaar, i.e. partner. What? That dispute is also going on even now in the Yagya. Which dispute is going on? Whatever dispute was going on earlier is still going on and in that world also the same dispute is going on. Which dispute is going on? We want the seat/throne (kursi). We want authority. The power should remain in our hands. That dispute for power began at that time and is still going on. Father says; what does he say? Alaf got Allah and Bay got Baadshaahi, i.e kingship.

Alaf means a vertical line. In the beginning also he was standing in purusharth (effort-making) and even in the end he is still standing and what does ‘bay’ mean? A horizontal line. ‘Bay’ means the one, who receives kingship. ‘Tap tay raaj, raaj tay narka’ (Penance leads to kingship, and kingship leads to hell) What? What is achieved through penance? Kingship is achieved and after achieving kingship one becomes egotistic. When one becomes egotistic, then he/she falls into hell. In the Confluence Age Father teaches us – children, here you remain as a sevadhari (one who serves others). Your Father has come here as an obedient servant. So what do you have to become? You have to remain as a sevadhari. If you get a feeling that – we have received kingship here itself; if you start controlling others here itself, then those, who take ‘contol’ (i.e. controlling power/authority) in their hands, their ‘control’ would slip out of their hands there. If you remain a daas-daasi (servant-maid servant) here, then you would have to remain daas-daasi there. Well, those children can be any children. It may be even daughter Maya. What? What does daughter Maya sit as? She sits as a master (maalik). She issues orders (hukm). So, when the Golden Age begins, what would daughter Maya become in the Golden Age? She would become Daasi (maid-servant). First of all Maya would surrender and after surrendering she would become your maid servant. Later on, Prakriti, i.e. nature would surrender. She would also become your maid-servant. It means that now Maya also wants to control and nature also wants full control now. Father fulfills the wishes of both. He has given full authority in the hands of Maya also. As soon as Brahma left the body, the entire power came into the hands of daughter Maya.

Now in the advance (knowledge) the entire power is going to come into the hands of Mother Nature. You may call her Mother Nature, you may call her Durga, you may call her Jagdamba, or you may call her Mother Gita. The inheritance of the kingship of heaven is obtained through The Knowledge of Gita, but it is received through Father. The gates of heaven are opened through Brahma. Brahma becomes the via-media, but who is the enabler? It is Father. For e.g. it has been said in the last Avyakt Vani – Brahma Baba started preparing the rosary very fast and Father started smiling. Why did He start smiling? He started smiling because Brahma Baba thinks that – we would only prepare the rosary, we would only open the gate of heaven, but nothing would take place without the cooperation of Father. The kingdom (Rajdhani) cannot get established. Nobody except Father is capable of accomplishing this task of establishment of Rajdhani.

So Father comes and asks children – had we met earlier? So it would occur in the intellect of children that – we had met in the beginning of the Yagya too. The old Baba (an aged person sitting in the gathering) would say – how did I meet? I have crossed 70 years of age. Hm? Then how would we meet, or how had we met? At that time the Yagya had not begun at all. In which year were you born? (Someone said – it has been 72 years) You have become 72 years old. So there is no question of his being there at all. Then? He is also studying knowledge. (Someone said – Can’t he be a companion in performing Bhakti?) Hm? (He might have been a companion in performing Bhakti) Yes. He might have spent his life along with the soul of Ram in the path of worship. So those sanskars of Sun Dynasty due to the colour (i.e. influence) of company still exist. Those sanskars pull you. So Father alone can ask this question – had we ever met? So those who are children would say – We had met earlier also and we are meeting even now and we would keep meeting birth by birth in future also. Nobody else would be intelligent enough to ask this question. Neither would they be intelligent enough to ask this question nor would they be intelligent enough to answer the question. This matter fits into your intellect immediately.

Father says – Even I have to come once again to narrate The Knowledge of Gita. What has been said? (Someone said – Father says – Even I have to come to narrate The Knowledge of Gita). Once again. In the beginning also the Sanskrit Gita used to be read out and explained. Whatever happened in the beginning is to take place in the end also. When the 108 commentaries on Gita can be prepared by 108 religious communities, by the people belonging to various sects (math-panth), then, can’t the commentary on Gita emerge according to the (Godly) knowledge? It would emerge and it would even be understood by the scholars and teachers. So I come to narrate The Knowledge of Gita; I had come earlier too. I had narrated The Knowledge of Gita earlier also and even now I come and narrate The Knowledge of Gita. I come and liberate you from the jail of Ravan. I alone have to come and liberate you
... (to be continued)

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VCD* No. 416, Audio Cassette No.902, dated 09.04.06, Pritampura, Delhi

Clarification of Murli dated 11.02.67

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... Unlimited Father explains unlimited matters. The children who possess a limited intellect understand it with a limited intellect and those of my unlimited children (who possess an unlimited intellect) understand those matters in an unlimited sense. Such lengthy and bulky stories have been written in Ramayan, etc. Now, does any human being with 10 heads exist? If there is any human being with 10 heads then how will his progeny be? It cannot be possible that there is a human being with 10 heads (and there is no such person with 10 heads in his geneology), so there must be someone in his geneology also. There should have been at least someone with 2-4 heads! Ten heads means – 10 kinds of opinions come together and unite. And after uniting they control the entire world and the opinion of the Father is buried for 2500 years. For 2500 years, the kingship of Father Ram continues in this world and for 2500 years the kingship of ten heads of Ravan continues. Now this kingship of Ravan, who possesses ten heads, is going to end. (A Brother said – Baba, the kingship of ten religions is going to end). The kingship of all the religions is going to end.

The ancient deity religion also got renamed as Hinduism. That also became degraded (taamsi). Father says – all the religions become degraded. Each soul is being ruled by Ravan. When the kingship of Ravan spreads in the entire world, then I come and establish the kingdom of Ram. So when I come and establish the kingdom of Ram, then will I enter the intellect of Ram first or will I enter into the intellect of anyone else? First I will have to enter into the intellect of Ram and reform his intellect, isn’t it? Now there is no human being with ten heads. Ravan is shown to possess ten heads and what about Ram? He is shown to possess one head. Look, the memorials are also going on now. One does not understand the meanings that why has Ram been shown with one head and why has Ravan been shown with ten heads? The matter is clear. What? The matter is clear that the opinion of ‘one’ causes true salvation (sadgati) and the opinions of many cause degradation (durgati).

Even now in the world of Brahmins, this shooting is going on – those who realize ‘one’ Father, follow ‘one’ opinion and those who are unable to realize him, take the support of others also. That is why it has been said in the Murli – ‘One would accept the versions of that religion only, to which one belongs.’ Although Father has come and is explaining The Knowledge, but he would say for that person whose versions he believes – yes, all your versions are true, but until Jagdish Bhai, Didi, Dadi, Dadas don’t accept, I am not going to accept your version. This proves the religion to which he belongs. He has to go to the religion to which those Didis, Dadis, Dadas are going to get converted to.

Shri Ramchandra, who is praised so much; Ram has been given a position higher than Krishna. Krishna is shown to be perfect in 16 celestial degrees and Ram is shown to be perfect in 14 celestial degrees. Even then he has been depicted in the Silver Age and Krishna has been depicted in the Copper Age. Then, the Sita of such a Ram had been kidnapped. Arey! Will the one, who has no control over his wife, be able to take care of the kingship of the world? First the reform of one’s own home is required. Then, next? The reform of others. If one’s own home is not reformed, then how can the benefit of the entire world take place? All these matters are mythological stories, which the Father comes and clarifies. All these are matters pertain to the present time. Omshanti. (A Brother asked – You have mentioned about the Ram who came in the Silver Age. In the path of worship, Ram is believed to have existed in the Silver Age only and Krishna is believed to have existed in the Copper Age only, and Vishnu is believed to have existed in the Golden Age. So how did this happen? What is the secret?) This is the secret of the present Confluence Age.

Now the Ramayan is also going on in the Confluence Age; the Mahabharata is also going on now in the Confluence Age; the Bhaagwat is also going on now in the Confluence Age; The Knowledge of Gita is also going on in the Confluence Age and the war between deities and demons (devaasur sangraam) is also going on in the Confluence Age. (Someone said – is the entire drama based on the Confluence Age only?) The entire drama depicted in the scriptures is based on the Confluence Age. So the Ram, who has been depicted in the Silver Age that he failed; Baba says – ‘Ram failed; so he became a chandravanshi (a soul belonging to the Moon dynasty) in the Silver Age.’ He failed in the beginning of the Yagya. He did not fail in the final. He failed earlier. So he got its benefit in the Silver Age. He has obtained those arrows of knowledge from the previous birth. He failed in the beginning of the Yagya; when he takes next birth, he kills the demons with those arrows of knowledge (gyaan baan) and then obtains kingship. He is called – Vishnu. Ram’s birth is depicted; it is depicted that Vishnu took birth as Ram. Whether it is the birth of Krishna or the birth of Ram, both are shown to be the incarnations of Vishnu. So the four arms of Vishnu are not any different. Sita along with Ram and Radha along with Krishna – the combination of the nature and resolves of these four souls is called Vishnu. Now this kingdom of Vishnu is going to arrive. First the nature and resolves of these four souls are going to become one. When the natures and resolves of these four souls becomes one, then all the religions of the world will start going down. All the temples, mosques, churches would start falling. Only one big temple would get established. A very big revolution is going to take place.

(Baba it has been heard that you are soon going to tour Hariyana) Hm? (It has been heard that you are soon going to tour Hariyana. The residents of Hariyana would feel very happy. Hari, i.e. God would come). The residents of Hariyana might have welcomed Hari with a lot of vigour. Hari aa na! (i.e. O Hari! Come, will you not?) Hari aa na! Hm, they must have called loudly from within, so the place was named – Hariyana. So He has not come there till now. (A mother said – He will come). Now He has to certainly come there in the end. Why? Hm? If He does not reach Hariyana itself, then how can the name spread to Punjab? While proceeding from Delhi, first Hariyana comes in between. Hm, first the Jats of Hariyana must emerge. Then the Sikhs of Punjab should emerge. Why?

Someone said – Baba, I used to visit the BK Ashram. Now, after knowing the truth, I have stopped going there). Yes. (Brother said – Now they are telling that you have been misled). Yes. (Brother said – they are telling – you ...) So why did you produce such weak children who get misled? Produce the children of God, will you not? You say that God has come. (Brother said – I said the same thing Baba that you do not follow the truth. I am going to side only with the truth. I cannot be on the side of evil. We are the children of true Father. That is why we have left your company. We have taken the company of truth. We have left the other side. I started explaining like that. We don’t obtain the kingship through the physical power. We obtain the kingship through the power of Yoga) Hm. (Brother said – You may use the physical power). You may use physical power if you want. (Brother said – that’s all). If our protector (rakshak) is with us, he will protect us. OK. (A mataji asked – Baba, when will you come to our village? ) Your village is in Paramdham. (Mataji said – No, Baba many souls have completed bhatti. Many days have passed. They say that Baba will meet us here itself.) Hm? (Mataji said – yes, please). Will they meet God sitting at home? If they want to go to the abode of truth (sachhkhand) then they would have to accept the truth. Baba catches hold of the powerful ones (damdaar) first. That is why they say – you take away the good ones first. (A mother said – Baba, they did not leave them at all). Yes, it has also been written in the scriptures – ‘He stole the ball of cream of the Gopis.” The balls of cream would only be stolen. The butter milk (chaanch) woud not be stolen. Omshanti.
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VCD* No.746, Cassette No.1232, dated 30.08.07, at Hyderabad

Clarification of Murli dated 26.12.67

Ref. No.VCD*
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Night class of (26th December) 1967. The picture of Lakshmi-Narayan is very clear. How? Other pictures are not as clear as the picture of Lakshmi Narayan. What is the special in it? There is a clear recognition [i.e. information] of the Creator and the creation in it. Who is the creator in the picture of Lakshmi-Narayan? The Lakshmi and Narayan who have been shown in the midst of the light, i.e. in the midst of the Confluence-Aged light of knowledge which is the true meaning of Narayan – Naar means water, the water of knowledge. Call it the water of knowledge, or call it the light of knowledge, it means the same. The Lakshmi & Narayan who live in the midst of that world of light of knowledge are coloured in the colour of knowledge from head to toe. They are the creators of the new world and below them are shown their creation. The creation of Shri Narayan-the world Prince-Shri Krishna and Shri Radhey. It has been shown clearly.

The Confluence-Aged Lakshmi & Narayan themselves create their vibrations. They are born from the ardour (tej), i.e. their revelation has taken place through remembrance and the stage of remembrance, that incorporeal stage reveals them. In spite of being in an incorporeal stage they have been shown in a pure atmosphere through the corporeal body. It is as if there is no name or trace of body consciousness. The first Prince-Princess Radha and Krishna who will be the creation of the Golden Age are the first class creation because they are born through vibrations. The remembrance practiced by Lakshmi-Narayan creates such vibrations that those vibrations give birth to Radha and Krishna. Vibration means that there is no name [i.e. trace] of body consciousness.

The creation that will be born through Radha and Krishna will be the creation of vision (drishti). They will be born through the attraction of vision, which has been shown in the picture, that Radha and Krishna are nevertheless looking at each other with a vision of love. And Lakshmi & Narayan are not looking at each other even through their vision. Just the vibrations of each other are loveful towards each other. That is why it has been said that – this picture of Lakshmi and Narayan is very clear. That picture (chitra) is the one that depicts the features (charitra). What kind of a world did they create for themselves? They created a world of one vibration, a world of unadulterated vibrations.

In that also, [i.e.] in the picture of Lakshmi and Narayan also, ShivBaba is above. Lakshmi & Narayan are below. Why? Lakshmi & Narayan belong to the path of household. The union (sanyog) of the vibrations of a man and a woman has been shown. So, should the path of household be lower? ShivBaba has been shown above. Is ShivBaba single or is he in the path of household? It is said – God is one. In Hindi it is said – Bhagwaan. Bhagwaan (God) is one. So, should he be called Bhagwaan-Bhagwati or should he be called just Bhagwaan? At the end of the Iron Age, the entire humanity becomes false. The One Father comes. He is called – God is truth.

One Sadguru, the incorporeal. The meaning of Sadguru itself is – one true guru. All the remaining are the ones who show the false path. So, God Father is sitting above. Even in that Trimurti are shown - the personality of Brahma, the personality of Vishnu and the personality of Shankar. But among the three personalities, the title of – ‘Dev-Dev-Mahadev’ is given [to one]. God is one, so God’s child is also said to be one. He does not get revealed through two. That incorporeal point of light Shiv enters into a human being who is the highest on high among the human race. He has been named in the scriptures as – Prajapati. This is the name of the end. In the beginning Baba had given the name – Prajapita. The creation is created through a pita i.e. a Father alone.

So, ShivBaba is above and Lakshmi & Narayan belonging to the path of household, who receive the title of Bhagwaan-Bhagwati are nevertheless below. That is why the Sanyasis, who give the title of Shivoham (I am Shiva) to themselves, consider the householders to be fallen/degraded personalities and give themselves the title of Shri Shri 108 Jagadguru. Why? Why are Lakshmi & Narayan below and why is ShivBaba, the God Father above? Is there any reason? Those who are Lakshmi & Narayan; did they study The Knowledge or not? They studied. From whom did they study? They studied from ShivBaba. Did they study from two or did they study from one? They studied from one and the one from whom they studied, that ‘one’ is the true one; that is why the story of ‘true Narayan’ (Satya Narayan) is praised. The story of Satya Lakshmi (true Lakshmi) is also not praised.

He is everybody’s Father. He is the Father of Lakshmi as well as Narayan. He is the Father of all their subjects and the Father of all the subjects who have existed generation by generation in the world. Inheritance is received from the Father. The Father alone establishes the heaven. ShivBaba is the unlimited Father. He is not just the Father of Lakshmi-Narayan. Yes, Lakshmi and Narayan made the highest efforts and hence became the masters of heaven. They became the masters of the world. The Father established the kingdom (raajdhaani) of heaven for them. He established the world-kingship. Even in heaven it is the rule of these Lakshmi and Narayan because Lakshmi and Narayan only become constant in the soul conscious stage (swa sthiti) first. Do they become constant (in swasthiti) before Father Shiv? Father Shiv comes in the body. He does not need to make efforts. But Lakshmi & Narayan have to make efforts, although Father Shiv enters. They have to climb upstairs (ultee seedhi)
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Post13 Dec 2007

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VCD* No.746, Cassette No.1232, dated 30.08.07, at Hyderabad

Clarification of Murli dated 26.12.67

Ref. No.VCD*.,


... The rule of this Lakshmi & Narayan existed 5000 years ago as well. Then where did that kingdom go? The Father explains that – it is precisely this Lakshmi & Narayan that become Vishnu. Then they pass through The Cycle of 84 (births) and then become Brahma. Those who are the World Sovereigns Lakshmi & Narayan, pass through The Cycle and what do they become first? After passing through the complete cycle of 5000 years, what do they become? They become Brahma. What is the complete name of that Brahma? Arey! Prajapita Brahma. They even show that – Brahma emerged from the navel (naabhi) of Vishnu. Arey! Where do they show this? Do they show this in the scriptures; do they show this in the pictures? They show this in the scriptures. So, the matters that have been shown in the scriptures are memorials of which time? They are the memorials of the Confluence Age.

Then, how did Brahma emerge from the navel of Vishnu in the Confluence Age? (Someone said – from the intellect-like womb) Yes, yes. Who is that Vishnu? Just one is not called Vishnu. The combination/union of the sanskars of two is precisely called as Vishnu. As much their sanskars match even at the end of the Iron Age, even in the last birth, no other couple’s sanskars match to that extent. Which is that couple (joda)? The one that has been shown first of all. Brahma emerged from the navel of Vishnu. If it is said to be in the beginning of the Yagya, then who was it? It would be certainly said that in the beginning of the Yagya, those who were in the form of Vishnu became Lakshmi and Narayan first of all in the end. If he is the first Brahma, he would become the first Narayan.

Therefore, it is shown that – Brahma emerged from the navel of Vishnu, for whom it has been mentioned in the Murli that – there were such children, who used to give directions even to Mama and Baba; they used to enable them perform the drill (of meditation/remembrance). We used to think that they are going to achieve a high number (i.e. rank) in the rosary. They used to teach. Even in that period, they performed the shooting of a high stage. So, did that couple separate by fighting with each other? For that (couple) it is praised even about their last birth in the scriptures that – Brahma emerged from the navel of Vishnu. So, it is praised even about their last birth; so whatever happens in the beginning happens in the end. Then which Brahma emerged? Has the time for Brahma to emerge from Vishnu been mentioned as one second or longer? A long period has been mentioned.

So, when did Brahma get revealed? He did not get revealed in the beginning of the Yagya. When did he get revealed? Earlier Baba did not used to narrate Murli. The Murlis have begun to be narrated from (the times of) Karachi. (Baba has said in the Murlis that) “Whichever body I enter will have to be named as Brahma.” So, when did Brahma get revealed in practical? He got revealed in 1947. It started emerging in the intellect of someone or the other that – this is the part of Brahma. The vedvani is emerging from his mouth. So, it took at least ten years to get transformed from Vishnu to Brahma. Then it would be said – Vishnu emerged from the navel of Brahma. Brahma emerged in 1947. Then, when did Vishnu emerge from his navel? In the shooting period. When would it be said? Arey, it has been declared in the Murli. The declaration has been made in 1976. The kingdom of this Lakshmi & Narayan would be established within ten years and after that the flame of destruction would spread in the entire world. It is praised that – the flame of destruction got ignited from the Rudra gyaan Yagya kund. So, it engulfed the entire world.

So, Brahma becomes Vishnu, Vishnu becomes Brahma. He became a deity and then he takes 84 births. The Father explains that – you do not know (your) 84 births. I myself come and tell. ‘You’ refers to whom? It has been said for all those children who study sitting face to face with the Father. Alright, the Father says – In whichever body I enter, I emerge (the children) in it and speak. So, when I emerge (them) and speak, then the one who would have been emerged to speak, to explain; will he address him as ‘you’ or not? He will say. So, the one who was emerged, this matter should certainly fit into his intellect first of all. What? That – how does one get transformed from a man to Narayan and who becomes? First of all it should fit into his intellect.

The Murlis have been emerging since 1947. And the Murlis went on emerging till 18th January, 1969. The Murli was in fact heard but was its secret completely understood? Why was it not understood? When the Father is himself emerging the children and talking to them, then the Father is also the one who explains and the child is also the one who understands. In that case will that vibration not reach that child? Will it not reach first of all? That vibration reaches that child first of all. The secret of every sentence, every word of the Murlis fits into the intellect of that child. So, when the secret would fit into his intellect, then the speaker says – you do not know about your births. I tell you.

It is so simple and the Father speaks only through Brahma. What? Through whom does the Father speak first of all? He says only through Brahma that – Remember me, the Paarloukik Father. Neither remember the lokik (Father) nor remember the alokik (Father). I alone am the purifier of the sinful ones (patit paavan). Are two souls saying this or is it one soul? (Someone said – two) Are there two souls which say that I alone am the purifier of the sinful ones? Is ‘I’ said for one or for two? It cannot be two souls. There is only one soul. The soul is also one and in spite of there being two souls the personality is one. I alone am the purifier of the sinful ones. The purifier of the sinful ones (patitpaavan) says that – I am the only boatman (khivaiyya) of your soul-like traveller/passenger (bithaiyya) and the body-like boat (navaiyya). So, is he a boatman in the form of a personality or is he a boatman in the form of just a soul? The boat is sailed and the soul which sits in the boat is taken across. Across what do we have to go? We have to go across this ocean of vices. We have to go to the ocean of milk (ksheersagar). So, the one who says – I myself am the purifier of the sinful ones, does He reform the sinful souls or does He reform the body from a sinful one to a pure one? Doctor will prepare doctors. The upliftment of souls is carried out by the Father of the souls. And the Father of bodies uplifts the body. The responsibility is laid on him because he is the Father of the human body. He is the Father of human beings, but he says, Remember the paarlokik Father
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Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.746, Cassette No.1232, dated 30.08.07, at Hyderabad

Clarification of Murli dated 26.12.67

Ref. No.VCD*.,


... This Father of the human world – will he be called the Paarlokik Father or lokik Father? Is he the Paarlokik Father or the lokik Father? What is he now? Lokik means ‘of this world’ and Paarlokik means ‘not of this world’. The world which is beyond this world, where nobody else can reach- he lives in a stage which is so beyond. There are two unlimited fathers. One is the Father of the souls and the second is the Father of the human world. Being an all-round actor, does the Father of the human world remain in this world for the maximum time or does he live in the world beyond this one? He lives in this world. Although he is the unlimited Father, but still is he lokik or paarlokik? He is lokik and the Father of the point-like souls is paarlokik, but whom should we remember? If you remember the Paarlokik Father the rust in you would get burnt through the power of Yoga. What? This Yoga, which you will practice considering yourself to be a soul, a point, (and) when you will attach yourself with the Supreme Soul Father, the rust in you would get removed through that power of Yoga. Is the rust (as a result) of the remembrance of the soul or is it (as a result) of the remembrance of the body? (Someone said – the remembrance of the soul) Is the rust formed through the remembrance of the soul? The rust is (as a result) of the remembrance of the body. Whether it is the body of Prajapita, whether it is the body of Brahma, whether it is the body of any Brahmakumar-kumari. If one remembers just the body, and if one does not remember the point of light Shiv in that, then will the rust form or will it get removed? It would form. This is why it has been said – Remember the incorporeal within the corporeal.

Even your remembrance is of the path of household. What? The remembrance is also of the path of household. This is the journey of remembrance. Consider yourself to be a soul and remember me alone (maamekam). Remember me alone. Do not remember anyone else. If the matter of 'maamekam' (remembering ‘me alone’) was to be a matter of just a point, then how can one know whether we remembered the second point or the third (point) or the fourth (point), or ten-fifteen. It cannot be on the basis of [calling it] a point. One, me alone, second one cannot be just by considering a point. When can it be possible? When He enters the corporeal, when He enters into the appointed Chariot, then it would be said, remember me alone. If you do like this your sins (vikarma) would get burnt. Which actions? Vi means vipreet karma (opposite karma). Such karma which you have not performed in a soul conscious stage, not performed in swasthiti (soul conscious stage). In which Age have you not performed (it)? From the Copper Age to the Iron Age; and even in the Confluence Age, a lot of actions are performed, which have not been performed, in which way? They have not been performed while being in swa sthiti; this is why they became vikarma (sins). They became opposite actions, and in which Age are the actions performed in the soul conscious stage (swasthiti)? In the Golden Age and the Silver Age, actions are performed in the soul conscious stage [swasthiti], this is why sins are not accumulated there. And apart from this in which other Age can one perform actions even while being in swasthiti? The Purushottam Sangamyug (Elevated Confluence Age). Here one performs sins too; and here one can perform akarma (actions without positive or negative results) as well as sukarma (noble actions).

So, it has been said that your sins would get destroyed; then you would yourself become this. What would you become? You would become this Lakshmi and Narayan. Now you are Brahmins. It means, what are you not? You are not deities. Deity means complete, and Brahmin means? Complete Brahmins means deities and if it is said just Brahmins, then they are incomplete (apoorna). Just now they are in a high stage and just now they are in a low stage.

You Brahmins are the children of Prajapita Brahma. You are not the children of just Brahma. Whose children are you? The children of Prajapita Brahma. Just as people say - we are the children of mother and Father. We are the children of mother and Father. To say that we are the children of only the mother is not considered good. No, we are the children of both the mother and the Father. The Father has explained that - the Father himself comes and gives knowledge to the souls. When is The Knowledge received? He does not give knowledge when He comes in the form of a mother. Did anyone receive knowledge? Arey, will any Brahmakumar-kumari say that - we have obtained The Knowledge that - Who am I, the soul, or what is my [i.e] me soul’s special part on this world-like stage? there are different sanskars in the soul, is not it? So, the part of one does not match with the part of another. So, can anyone say - which special actor am I, the soul? If one cannot tell, then it means that he has not received The Knowledge of the soul as well, and when he has not received The Knowledge of a soul then certainly, he has also not received The Knowledge of the Paarlokik Father with a faithful intellect (nishchayaatmak buddhi). If one recognizes the Father with faithful intellect; when a child is born, then he becomes the heir to the Father's property as soon as he takes birth.

A soul lives in the middle of the bhrikuti (portion of forehead between the two eyebrows). What? Is there no other place? Even in the highest organ (uttamaang), the place between the two eyes, above the nose; these are the three special functionaries - nose, ears, (and) eyes. It lives in the centre of these three functionaries. Just as there is a king; so, he lives in the midst of his special commanders and ministers. Only a soul is imperishable, and this nose, these eyes, ears are all perishable. A soul is imperishable, but now it has to return. Where is it supposed to return? It has to return to the Soul World; this is why the Father says that consider yourself to be a soul and while remembering only the Father, get transformed from an impure one (tamopradhan) to a pure one (satopradhan)...
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VCD* No.746, Cassette No.1232, dated 30.08.07, at Hyderabad

Clarification of Murli dated 26.12.67

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... Just as you have descended, similarly you also ascend. How did you descend? When you descended from above, you went on getting coloured by the company of numerous souls. You went on getting coloured by the company of bodily beings. You went on experiencing downfall. ... The rust of the remembrance of bodily beings went on getting added. In this way you descended. Now [what should be done] to ascend? You have to do just the opposite. What should you do? All those bodily beings, whose company you have kept for many births, will now come to clear their karmic accounts in the shooting period. They come in thoughts to clear their karmic accounts, don’t they? They do come. Now what is the effort that you have to make? Now what effort should you do? Do not see those bodily beings even while seeing them. Do not listen to their words while hearing them. That is why it has been said in the Murlis – One should neither ask anything from the lokik relatives nor should one follow their opinion. If you start following their opinion then what would happen? One would start experiencing downfall once again. You ask them. It means that you have forgotten the Father. So, just as you have descended, just as your intellect has been getting attached/stuck in the bodily beings, similarly, now one should ascend in the same way. What should one do? One must break the connection of the intellect with the bodily beings and one must connect the intellect to one Father. It means that from the beginning of the Golden Age itself this connection and disconnection begins.

In the Copper Age, body consciousness increases rapidly and the attachment for the body starts. The connection with one Father goes on breaking and the relationship with many starts getting established. Who causes this connection and disconnection? Did the Father tell to cause this connection and disconnection from Copper Age? Neither did He do nor did he say. As is the shooting performed in the Confluence Age, so is the drama that that is shot. Neither did the Paarlokik Father cause (this) nor did he do it. Neither did the unlimited lokik Father cause this nor did he do it. Every soul was independant. In which matter? One may establish as many bodily relationships with any person that one wishes and one may break connection with the Father to whatever extent one wishes. Some souls were so lucky that – they did not break connection with 'one' even in many births. Although in the last birth Maya makes them also fall. So, who would experience more labour in making efforts and who would find it easy? Did you not understand? Arey, some souls are such that they do experience downfall at a fast pace from the Copper Age. [In fact] everyone descends. But they did not leave the Father. They maintained the hand of friendship with the Father for many births. They did establish connection with others too, but they did not break connection with the ‘one’. Although they experienced downfall in the last birth and what did the others do? They went on breaking with 'one' and they went on establishing connection with others.

So, who was benefitted? Whose effortmaking would be easy and whose effortmaking would be difficult? On the basis of love, whose effortmaking would be easy? And because of lack of love, whose effortmaking would involve hard work? Arey! For those, who have joined hands of love since many births with ‘one’ even in the 63 births it will be easy and for those who went on breaking connection with ‘one’ and went on establishing connection with many, it will be difficult. Although the shooting for this also, for the part that was played in the Copper Age and Iron Age also, where does the shooting take place? The shooting is taking place here in the Confluence Age and those who perform the shooting are doing it fearlessly. Is this fact in their intellect? Do they remember this point? They do not remember. This is why all the stars that exist in the sky are shown as memorials. Some two-three stars live with each other continuously. Although they may move howevermuch far away from the Pole star, but they live together and some stars are such that they keep revolving around the Pole star in proximity. So, there are different kinds of actors. It cannot be said – We are not responsible for whatever has been written in our fate by the fortunemaker (Bhagyavidhata), the fortunemaker is responsible. Who is responsible? Who is responsible for making the high fortune, the fortune of happiness, and the fate of sorrows? Every soul. Just as it has been written in Gita – a soul is its own enemy and a soul is its own friend. Anyone else cannot be [it’s] friend and foe. Even God Father, the highest on high Supreme Father Supreme Soul Shiv is neither anybody’s friend nor anybody’s foe.

Your battery would get filled when the soul gets connected through Yoga. Now your lamp has got extinguished because the battery has become empty. So, then how will the lamp ignite? For example, when the battery becomes empty, or when it is about to become empty, then, sometimes the bulb glows and sometimes it does not glow. So, the flame has become dim (ujiyani). Then how will this lamp burn? It requires dynamism (gati). What? Just like current (electricity). It passes through the wire. So, when the current is dynamic, only then it will pass (through the wire). If there is no dynamism in the current (electricity), then how will it pass (through the wire)? So, even here, what is required? Dynamism of the soul is required. Is gati (salvation) a high stage or is sadgati (true salvation) a high stage? Arey, if there is no salvation at all, then how can there be true salvation? First, one has to go to the Supreme Abode. Later on whether true salvation is achieved or not or it may be achieved numberwise; so the soul should be dynamic (gatisheel). It means that it should not remain a stone-like intellect. It should not remain a buffalo-like intellect. Thinking and churning should go on in the soul. Dynamism is required. When a lamp is ignited, then in order to enable the lamp to burn efficiently, oil is added to it, isn’t it? Ghrit (ghee) is added, isn’t it? So, even here, what is added to make (the soul) dynamic? The oil of knowledge is being added. So, this soul has also become cold (i.e. inactive) by becoming sinful. Prajapita is also sinful. What? There are many devotees; Raam ke bhakt Rahim ke bandey. Hain ye sab ankhon ke andhey. (Devotees of Ram and people of Rahim. All these are blind/sightless) They just catch hold of the bodily being. If they are the devotees of Krishna, then they would catch hold of Brahma alone. They want Brahma and only Brahma. If they are the devotees of Radha, then they would catch hold of just Radha. The Father says – Who is the Father of all these bodily beings? Who is the Father of the entire mankind? Prajapita. Will he also be called pure or impure? He too is impure. These too have to become like them. Like whom? A hint was given towards the picture of Lakshmi & Narayan. Tat twam. Whatever they are, you are the same
...(to be continued)

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VCD* No.746, Cassette No.1232, dated 30.08.07, at Hyderabad

Clarification of Murli dated 26.12.67

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... First, certainly (they become) the deities, then Kshatriya [the warrior class], then Vaishya [the merchant class] and then they degrade to the lowest level to become Shudra [the lowest class]. Who? The matter of Lakshmi & Narayan is being discussed, is not it? They were first Brahmins, and then from Brahmins to deities, then Kshatriyas, then Vaishyas and then Shudras. When you become deities, you are also worshipworthy (poojya).

What? Will they be worshipworthy only in the Copper and Iron Age or will the sanskars of being worshipworthy be assimilated here too? As much pure deity one goes on becoming now, as much complete Brahmin one goes on becoming, their worship would begin even now. The sinful ones would come and bow their heads before those pure ones. What does ‘bowing the head’ mean? They would bow the intellect, they will consider them greater/higher and [they will consider] themselves lower. They become worshipworthy in the Golden Age and Silver Age, and then become worshippers (pujaari) in the Copper and Iron Age.

The Father says – I am indeed ever worshipworthy. You yourselves become worshipworthy and you yourselves become a worshipper. Now you are becoming worshipworthy. Now you alone are obtaining the inheritance of Golden Age from the Father. There should be power to gain victory over even Maya also. [Power] of what? Which power is required to gain victory over Maya? Call it the spiritual power (aatmabal) or the power of Yoga; because where does even power come in the soul? It comes from the remembrance of the Father and then knowledge is also called power.

The true knowledge that the true Father comes and gives in the form of a true teacher, true Sadguru; the more one assimilates that power, the more powerful (balwaan) one becomes. Only those who remember properly, will become pure (satopradhan), will become powerful. Those who are very powerful are called Mahavir.

Which religion recognizes/accepts Mahavir? Jain religion believes in Mahavir. If there is a less Yoga, then they would achieve the position of praja (subjects) in the end because praja would emerge in the end; will they recognize their position in the end or will they recognize now? The praja will emerge in the end. They will realize recognise their position. Nevertheless, one has to definitely become pure. Whether one becomes praja or whether one achieves kingship. As the king so the subjects, all have to become pure and they should also assimilate the divine virtues.

Who is the biggest enemy one has to face while inculcating these divine virtues. Ravan is not one form. Even he has five main forms. Which vice comes in the way of imbibing the divine virtues more than anything else? Sex-lust. This sex-lust is the biggest enemy. It is even said - come and purify the sinful ones. So, do the Islamic people, who are included in the list of the most lustful ones, the most adulterous ones become more sinful, or do the Buddhists become more sinful or do the Christians become more sinful? When the Copper Age begins, then, first of all who starts becoming more sinful? The souls of Islam religion.

So, it is even said - purify the sinful ones. Wrathful ones (krodhi) are not called sinful (patit). Someone does not become sinful by becoming angry. Only the lustful ones (kaami) become sinful. It happens that - when the desire for liust does not get fulfilled, then they become angry. That is a different matter, but the angry/wrathful ones are not called sinful; that is why, when the new world will be established, then first of all, who will die while being alive [first of all] in the midst of the vidharmis (souls belonging to the religions other than deity religion) Only those people will die while being alive, who would have made their souls pure. Only they, who would have first of all surrendered/dedicated their intellect to the Father [first of all], will first make their soul pure. The body is also yours, this mind is also yours and whatever wealth is there, all that is also yours, nothing is mine.

So, who moves ahead of everyone in surrendering? Maya goes ahead of everyone in surrendering. Which religion’s head is she? Certainly, she would be the head of Islam. If the chief steps forward first of all; before surrendering through the body, through the mind, through the wealth, she surrenders through the intellect itself. The biggest surrender (samarpan) is the surrender of the intellect. The ego of the mind and intellect does not leave soon. Although, it may appear that one surrenders even the body completely. They will act in whatever way one wants them to act. If they are hanged upside down, they will be ready for that. If you beat them, they will not worry. They do not worry about the body, whatever way one wants them to act. They surrender even the wealth completely, but they do not surrender the mind and intellect.

So, first of all, Maya surrenders completely through the mind and intellect. When the chief surrenders, then all his subjects also imbibe the virtue that they become surrendered first. So, at the time of destruction, everyone will have to surrender to God, but will those, whose intellect becomes surrendered first, achieve more happiness for many births or will others achieve it? That is why, in case of Islam, the extent to which the Muslims have ruled, not just over India but also over the entire world, no other religion has enjoyed kingship to that extent. The kingdom of Christians has started within the last hundred years, or 200 years. That is why it has been said in the Murli – first these Islamic people will die. What? Which spiritual military will get ready first of all? The military of Islamic people will get ready. Then the task will progress at a fast pace. Omshanti.
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VCD* No.786, Audio Cassette No.1272, dated 19.10.07, at Harhua

Clarification of Murli dated 3, 4.02.68 (for BKs)

VCD* Part-I


Today's Murli is a night class dated 3rd February, 1968. People get attracted to pomp and show (bhabhka). When there is a lot of pomp and show in the path of worship, people get attracted. Such a pomp and show is created at the big centers that people come there under its attraction, and here in the Gitapathshalas there is no pomp and show at all. It is of course free. But it is not so that small children can enter. What would happen when they see the pomp and show? The small children, who do not understand anything; they too enter to see the pomp and show. So, one must be careful about this also. Now-a-days there are many drunkards and meat-eaters, aren’t there ? In a Government Museum anyone can go, and here there are the pure pictures. So, it is like a temple. Therefore, no dirty person should come inside, but now we cannot make this arrangement. This arrangement will be made in the future. It will have to be done.

It would be asked - have you taken bath? Otherwise you cannot come inside. Which bath? (Someone said - the bath of knowledge at Kampil) Yes, if you haven't taken the bath of knowledge, if you haven’t purified your intellect by taking the bath (of knowledge), then you are not permitted to come inside. Only the pure ones will be able to go inside. What? This fort of Pandavas will become such that no impure person will be able to enter. There are many such people who do not bathe after going to latrine. Is it a matter only in the limited sense or even in the unlimited sense? It is a matter even in the unlimited sense. They keep indulging in vices and do not pay attention to the bath of knowledge at all.

That time will come, especially here, in this hall of Madhuban, the sinful ones will not be allowed. That time will come [when] the sinful ones will not be allowed especially in this place, in the hall of Madhuban. the sinful ones will have to go to the other centers. Why? Otherwise how will they understand? The sinful ones will not be allowed especially on this Mount Abu. When? They will not be allowed when this Madhuban will start to become a gathering of pure souls, for which it has been said – You children will bring down even the Supreme Abode to this world. In fact there is no place more pure than the Supreme Abode at all.

Actually, you children make the entire world pure through the power of Yoga. You children make. This one does not make. Who? Brahma does not make [the entire world] pure and even the followers of Brahma do not make the entire world pure. They leave the world even before they make it pure. So, you children should feel so intoxicated! Why? It is because the one who puts an end [to a task], has done everything. He did not put an end and even his followers will not put an end. If any task is performed, and if someone leaves it in between before accomplishing it, then it is not considered to be good. It is not good to leave any task in between, without achieving complete success. And if the beginning of something is good, its end will also be good.

The basic/important thing is purity. It means that whenever one enters the path of knowledge, if they paid special attention to purity in the beginning of taking the bath of knowledge, then their foundation is laid nicely. On the matter of purity one is reminded of the temples. Those temples are just memorials. The non-living idols are placed there, but you had imbibed true purity in the Confluence Age. Now you are becoming the same pure deities.

On the matter of studies, one is reminded of College, and here the teaching is done on the pictures. The children should think – what are we doing on Shrimat? One must remain clean. Nothing should be there in the heart. If any dirt remains in the heart, then it spoils the vibrations of others as well. Children are explained – become bodiless (ashariri bhav). You have come to play your part here and there is an eternal part in the soul, which they keep on playing. All those who exist have to play their part. So, this knowledge should remain in the intellect. Which knowledge? That we are souls, we are not bodies. If we remain soul conscious, then what kind of a shooting will take place? The shooting of happiness will keep on taking place and if we remain body conscious, then the shooting of sorrows will keep taking place. The rehearsal takes place, does it not?

You can explain to anyone on the picture of ladder. The kingdom of Ravan is sinful. The kingdom of Ram is pure. It is shown on the picture of ladder, is it not? Then how did they get transformed from sinful ones to pure ones? How did they get transformed from sinful ones to pure ones? They fell down in the kingdom of Ravan, they went on becoming sinful, sorrows began in the kingdom of Ravan. There was no sorrow in the kingdom of Ram. Still they met with downfall, didn’t they ? Did downfall take place from the first birth of the Golden Age or not? Downfall took place. So, why did this downfall take place? How did they go on becoming sinful? First they became sinful slowly, later, when they entered the kingdom of Ravan, they became sinful very fast. Now, how to become pure? The matter comes to the intellect. We became sinful through the colour of the company of many and we become pure through the colour of the company of the one, who is the highest on high.

Why do we become pure? What is special in the ‘one’? The specialty in that ‘one’ is that – when He comes in the company (of someone), He does not get coloured by the company. All other deities, or human beings, or demoniac community, get coloured by the company. That is why ‘one’ is praised as the highest on high. He is the hero actor. It is not so that – high and low exist in the Supreme Abode. In the Supreme Abode, Shiv, the point of light, the Father of point-like souls is there . Until that Shiv, the point of light comes in this world in a corporeal form, how will He apply the colour of his company? The colour of the company is applied and the transformation takes place.

It is said that the world gets reformed through vision. The vision, the vibration, the atmosphere will get spoilt through dirty vision. The atmosphere will get purified through good vision. So, who has such a vision that never becomes dirty at all? He is called –Shiv
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Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.786, Audio Cassette No.1272, dated 19.10.07, at Harhua

Clarification of Murli dated 3, 4.02.68 (for BKs)

VCD* Part-II


... Shiv means benefactor (kalyaankaari). His vision never becomes crooked (vakra) towards anyone, it does not become a crooked vision. (tedhi drishti). What? He is called – an Ocean of love, an ocean of happiness. What about the other souls? However much they may make efforts, they become ill-tempered (tursh) to some extent or the other. Why do they become ill-tempered? They are influenced by the company. That is why the Father says – If anyone becomes angry, you must not stand in front of him. The matter of the Father is different. The virtues of deities are different. The virtues of human beings are different. The vices of demons are different. The virtues of deities cannot be mixed with the virtues of God. Deities are complete in 16 celestial degrees, completely virtuous, completely non-violent, highest among human beings in following the code of conduct (Maryadas purushottam). If the Father comes and becomes a completely virtuous one, if He plays a part like this from the beginning to the end, then who will end this world of demons that is full of vices?

Do the demons possess more power or do the deity souls possess more power? (Someone said – the deity souls) Do the deity souls possess more power? The demons possess a lot of power. The deities get power only when they get the power of the God Father. So, they went on experiencing downfall by getting coloured by the company of demons for 63 births. Now we have to keep the company of one Father. It is a matter of keeping company through the intellect. Then it should not be the case that we continue to keep the company of anyone through the physical organs. Why? If we do so, then we will certainly get coloured by the company. That is why it has been said that – one should not commit any sin through the bodily organs. Although some good or bad thought occurs in the intellect, it does not accrue any sin, but if one does through the bodily organs, then the colour of the company gets applied strongly. Then how will we get transformed from a sinful one to a pure one? The practice would go on becoming firm. Which? If we perform wicked acts (dushkarma) in the Confluence Age, if we keep the company of the sinful ones through the sinful organs, then the practice would become bad, will it not? So, how will we get transformed from sinful ones to pure ones? One must keep the company of one Father alone. One should not keep the company of anyone else. The intellect should remain busy thinking such matters– how can we become pure? This is called the churning of the ocean of thoughts. How we became sinful and how we become pure? One must remember The Cycle of 84 (births). It is a very easy matter.

If one remembers The Cycle of 84, then we have become sinful in the Golden Age and Silver Age also, but what is the difference? We have become sinful in the Copper Age and the Iron Age also. The difference is that – In the Copper Age and the Iron Age we experienced downfall quickly. The sorrows increased fast. The more sinful a soul becomes, the more the sorrows increase, but in the Golden Age and the Silver Age, one did not experience sorrows at all. The soul did become sinful. From being complete in 16 celestial degrees, how many celestial degrees got reduced by the end of the Silver Age? 8 celestial degrees got reduced. So, we did become sinful, but just as there are two sides (paldey) of a balance (tarazu); if one goes down, the other rises, then it is said that one has suffered a loss. Similarly, one should check – if their sins have increased while getting coloured by the company. Because as much pleasant (suhavnaa) the Confluence Age is, it is frightening (daraavnaa) to the same extent.

If we follow Shrimat, then it is pleasant. If one follows the opinion of one’s mind, or if one follows the opinion of the human beings, then it will become frightening too. Why will it become? It is because, the actions that we used to perform in the outside world used to accrue one time sin for one action and after recognizing, after claiming to the world that – we are the children of God, we have recognised God, still if we perform sinful actions, then we accrue hundred times sins here; that is why the loss is also more. There is no question of loss in the Golden Age and the Silver Age. Why? It is because the side of noble acts, the side of soul conscious stage remains heavy and from the Copper Age onwards, the side of soul conscious stage becomes light. So, the souls belonging to the deity religion get into the company of the sinful souls very fast.

The Father has said – Now consider yourself a soul and remember me, then all your sins would get burnt quickly. If you remember anyone else, then the sins would not reduce. This is a spiritual journey. The sins get destroyed through the remembrance of the Father. Why do they get destroyed? What is there in the remembrance of the Father? Sins are not committed in the Golden Age and the Silver Age. And sins are committed here. There is soul conscious stage in the Golden Age and the Silver Age; that is why there is no question of sins being committed, because there is no body consciousness at all and what about here? Here body consciousness attracts again and again. So, sins are committed. One forgets to remember the Father. There is a condition for the remembrance of the Father; what? That consider yourself a soul. If one wishes to remember the Father while being in body consciousness, then one would not be able to remember at all.

Much more sins are committed through that physical journey (i.e. physical pilgrimage). Yours is a spiritual journey. So, you children should always do some or the other service. What? What should you do to avoid body consciousness? You should always do some or the other service. If you do Godly service, God Father would be happy. Even in the lokik/outside world, if any child becomes very helpful in the Father’s shop, then that Father becomes very pleased with that child and the child receives his blessings. Here one receives so much power from the Father. We children remember [the Father] and the Father remembers the serviceable children. So, is there more power in our remembrance or in the remembrance of the Father? (Someone said – In the remembrance of the Father) So, one should not leave service. Benefit lies only in doing service. If one does not do service, then certainly one must be doing disservice. If there is body consciousness, if there is attachment somewhere , then the one who has attachment (for someone) cannot do service
... (to be continued)

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Note: The words in italics are words in Hindi. Some words have been added by the translator in the brackets to make the translation more meaningful.
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Post20 Dec 2007

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.786, Audio Cassette No.1272, dated 19.10.07, at Harhua

Clarification of Murli dated 3, 4.02.68 (for BKs)

VCD* Part-III



... Go on doing service. Tell - This is a taabeez (an amulet/talisman). Which one? What is our taabeez? (Someone said something) Yes, the badge that we used to wear, that badge is our taabeez. In the path of worship, what do the Tantriks give? They give taabeez. That is worn around the neck. It is tied around the wrist. Even here, the Father says - let this hang around your neck. Whoever comes in front of you, take out the taabeez and tell them. It should not be the case that - you keep it in the physical pocket to take it out and show. Even if it lies in the pocket-like intellect, it is enough. Whoever comes in front of you; go on giving the introduction of the three personalities. If you keep explaining about them, all your sorrows would end. The sorrows of the ones who understand will end and your sorrows would end as well. Tabeez is worn to avoid evil planetary effects (grahchaari) or illnesses. Your souls are doing business. This business causes income.

Now death is staring at you. So, only by paying complete attention to the studies will you children be benefitted. Children have the faith that - the Father has transformed us from human beings to deities several times. Has he transformed just we children? Do only we children have the faith? Will not the one who is given this knowledge, develop this faith? They will develop faith only to the extent which they have performed elevated actions in the 63 births; and who would have performed elevated actions? Only those, who have studied nicely after the Father's arrival in the Confluence Age, would have performed elevated actions. So, it remains in your intellect that - we have been transformed from human beings to deities several times. We kept on becoming (deities) every cycle. If at least this much remains in the intellect, it is a great fortune (aho saubhaagya). This is a big unlimited school. That is a limited small school. Why? Why is that a small school? Why is this a big unlimited school? (Someone said - The souls of the entire world study in it) Yes.

They establish big universities. Universe means the entire world. But the souls of the entire world do not study in any University and this is such a big school in which the souls of the entire world study. As regards those who study, they are numberwise. Some are able to study less; some study more. The Father feels pity. How should I explain to them that it fits into their intellect? There are some, who are unable to come out of the influence of ghosts at all. Instead of securing a place in the Father's heart, they go on experiencing even more downfall. Some daughters are getting ready. They are causing benefit to many.

Arey! Are the sons not getting ready? What is observed even in today's schools? Do the girls study better or do the boys study better? The girls study better. They even work well and show, and what about men? They are more intelligent ; still they are unable to use their intellect in a good task. Here, daughters are getting ready to cause benefit to many. Then, there are also the ones , who cause harm as well. They cause harm to themselves. If they cannot cause benefit, they will certainly do harm.

Here, even the atmosphere should be of knowledge. Everything else should be stopped. Where? Where does ‘here’ mean? It is where the Father sits and explains. Well, whether it is a Gitapathshala, whether it is a Madhuban, how should be the atmosphere over there? The atmosphere should be full of knowledge. No matter of ignorance should be visible to anyone. All other matters should stop. The journey of remembrance that we perform has to be taught to others as well. If we possess knowledge, it should be given to others as well. One has received The Knowledge (pehchaan), hasn’t one? The Knowledge of the Father that has been received is to be given to others as well. You can explain the journey of remembrance to anyone in a second. If one understands this journey, one would go to heaven. You meet many [people] on the trains too. There, you can serve anyone through the badge and make them the masters of the world. There is no need to take more paraphernalia (taamjhaam) of the pictures on the train. The badge should be available in the pocket-like intellect. One can explain whenever whoever comes, depending on the person. If you explain, it will fit into his intellect.

This is the unlimited Father. What? What should you explain on the badge? This is the unlimited Father. Who is the unlimited Father in Trimurti? In the badge, on the one side is Trimurti and on the other side is the picture of Lakshmi and Narayan. Now sit and explain to them - this is your unlimited Father. Who? Is it the three personalities? The three personalities are not the unlimited fathers. Then towards whom should we indicate? Arey! There are three personalities sitting there. Among them, who is the unlimited Father? The one who is called the Dev-Dev-Mahadev. Why is he called Mahadev? Others have been given just a title of deity (Dev) and he has been given the title of the greatest deity (Mahadev). What great task did he perform?

They show the picture. What are the pictures a memorial of? They have performed such an act (charitra). What is the act depicted in the pictures? The form of the Father sitting in the remembrance has been shown. So, they should be explained. Who is this sitting in the remembrance? Is Shiv sitting or is Shankar sitting? Shankar is sitting in the remembrance. There is no need for Father Shiv to be in remembrance at all. He is beyond sins and noble acts. He is the giver of knowledge. He is not a receiver of The Knowledge. Who needs to obtain The Knowledge, the sinful one or the pure one? The sinful one is required to obtain The Knowledge. He does not enter The Cycle of birth and death after coming to this world at all. He does not get coloured by anybody's company at all; so how will He become sinful? So, that Supreme Soul Father, 'Shiv' gets revealed in the world through Shankar. So, this is our Father
...(to be continued)

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Post21 Dec 2007

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.786, Audio Cassette No.1272, dated 19.10.07, at Harhua

Clarification of Murli dated 3, 4.02.68 (for BKs)

VCD* Part-IV


... Explain (to them) that - This Vishnu is not your Father. This Brahma is not the Father. His name itself is - Brahma. Brahm means big, Ma means mother. The seniormost Mother of the World. Someone may ask - Is this the senior mother? He is a person with beard and moustaches sitting. So, explain that - There are no temples of Brahma with beard and moustaches in the world. There is no memorial. In the memorial that has been built, he is not worshipped. The same Brahma with beard and moustaches, through whom the 'Brahmakumari Ishwariya Vishwa Vidyalay' was established, is incomplete. This is a basic knowledge of the beginning. This is not the ultimate knowledge.

When that Brahma leaves his body and enters a mother, he is worshipped as the World Mother (Jagdamba), but Jagdamba is Jagat-amba (world mother). She is certainly not the Father. One does not get the inheritance from the mother. Whoever is Jagdamba…; what is the task of Jagdamba? If she is satopradhan (pure) she is Jagdamba. If she is tamopradhan (degraded), she is Mahakali. What does Jagdamba herself become? She becomes Mahakali. She becomes Mahakali and destroys the demons. So, it is not that - she will destroy only the outside world . What? Whose Jagdamba is she? Is she (Jagadamba) for the people of the world? First she belongs to the Brahmins, does she not?

There is also a world of Brahmins . In the world of Brahmins, the souls of every religion have come to become Brahmins or are there souls of only one religion? the Hindus who were earlier deities, got converted and went to other religions. The same Hindus, convert again now, in the last birth, when God comes - what do they become? They become numberwise Brahmins. Nine categories of Brahmins are famous. Brahmins of one category higher than the other have been depicted. So, there are nine categories and there are nine special religions in the world. Souls drawn from those religions have now gathered in the Brahmakumari Ishwariya Vishwavidyalaya. The Basic knowledge is given in the form of a mother through Brahma. What? The higher knowledge is not given. It is said - Neem hakeem khatrey jaan ( little knowledge is dangerous thing).

If there is a little knowledge, then Doctor can cause the death of a patient; and what happened to Brahma also? He died. He died while studying because he neither studied the complete knowledge nor recognized the Father who teaches. Well, those who follow Brahma also meet the same fate. The Father has said in the Murli; He said through the mouth of Brahma itself that - one should not remember this Brahma. One will not get anything through the worship of Brahma or through the worship of Christ. From whom will one get? The one who creates even Brahma. Who creates the mother? The Father creates. So, he creates even the mother and he is the one who gives The Knowledge to the religious fathers as well. He is the Father of fathers. Through the remembrance of that one Father, whom we call the highest on high Father, your sins will get burnt, but one must not remember this Brahma.

It is not a matter of remembering Shankar. What? Shankar is different and Shiv is different. The souls of both are different. The point-like souls of both are different. One soul is sitting in the remembrance, which is called Shankar and the other soul enters him and gives knowledge. It applies the colour of company. Children get transformed from a sinful one to a pure one through the colour of company of the Father. This task of making one pure cannot be undertaken by anyone except one Father. Nobody else can teach this Rajyog. So, this is the unlimited Father. ‘Unlimited’ meaning? He is not the Father of two, four, six, eight, hundred, two hundred crore children.

For example, Christ is the Father of how many children? There are 100-150 crore Christians in the wrold; he is the Father of all of them. All of them accept him as their Father - the Father of Christianity, but even he has a Father. We are talking about that Father here. This is the unlimited Father. We receive this inheritance from him. Turn that badge. Point out in the picture of Trimurti - this is the unlimited Father and through this unlimited Father - turn (the badge) and tell - this is the unlimited inheritance that we receive. Which unlimited inheritance do we receive? (Someone said - getting transformed from a man to Narayan and from a woman to Lakshmi) This is the unlimited inheritance that we receive.

By knowing the Father, you will become pure and go to the abode of liberation. Those who have been studying every cycle, only they will study. Also say this . If you would have studied this knowledge in the previous cycle, then you will study even now. Why? Why is it so? Explain this thing again - the entire cycle repeats again and again in exactly the same way. This cycle of the world, the time cycle, repeats as it is. In this there are four scenes - Golden Age, Silver Age, Copper Age, and Iron Age. At the end of the Iron Age, when God comes in the Confluence Age, He establishes the Golden Age. So, this keeps repeating again and again. That is why it has been said - those who would have become pure in the previous cycle, those who would have studied then; only they will come and study this knowledge. If you had not studied, you will not study [even now].

There are some such ones, if you start to explain to them, then what do they do as soon as they start listening? They start napping. So, the Father says - alert them. What? If you would have studied this knowledge in the previous cycle, then you will study alertly. If you had not studied, then you will not study [now]. There will not be any change in this matter. What? The one, who had studied in the previous cycle; only they will study. The one, who would have become Lakshmi-Narayan in the previous cycle, only they will become [again]. There will not be any change. You will say - We will listen to this knowledge in the next cycle as well. This has fitted into your intellect. It is not necessary that it will fit into the intellect of everyone, in the intellect of those belonging to those [other] religions. This practice should become firm. What? That we receive this knowledge every cycle and after obtaining The Knowledge, we become the companions of the Father till the end
... (to be continued)

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