Shivsena wrote:I feel that the senior BKs and PBKs have done enough of Bhakti and have not been progressing spiritually nor understanding the secrets of Godly knowledge given in the Murlis; the BKs have been listening like a parrot to the senior Sisters and Dadis and the PBKs have been listening to cds and VCD* without understanding anything and just nodding their heads to whatever is said therein.
OK more later.
Shivsena wrote:You have pointed a finger at the BK family about the various programmes and playing of songs (like in Bhakti-marg); but you have forgotten that the same thing is repeated in the PBK family also in every morning class and even when Baba is face to face. The PBKs are in the same boat of Bhakti like the BKs, maybe at a more subtle level. So Shrimat is not being followed in BK centers nor the PBK centers.
Arjun wrote:Omshanti. Yes, shooting of Bhakti is going on to some extent among the PBKs also but the above statements are not completely true.
I don't know about the Gitapathshalas, but at the mini-Madhubans, songs are either not played during meditation or played sparsely, like a song or instumental music for a few minutes after a silence for 10-15 minutes. This is done when ShivBaba is not practically present in the class. But when ShivBaba is practically present (through Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) in the class (whether mini-Madhubans or any gitapathshala), no song is played during the meditation even if continues for 2 hours. I don't know if there is any exception here and there.
As regards the Murli VCD* that are available, every VCD* contains a few minutes of the recording of drishti/meditation at the place where that VCD* was recorded. This includes few minutes of drishti being given by Baba and few minutes of the the video recording of the audience in which efforts are made to cover every person sitting in the audience. When this recording of drishti/glimpses of audience is being shown on the VCD* generally a BK song/filmi song/light instrumental is played (in the VCD* and not actually in the class as clarified in the above paragraph).
I remember that in one of the recent Discussions one of the PBKs pointed out to Baba about the song that is played at the beginning of every VCD* while showing the recording of drishti and audience, and asked whether it is shooting of Bhakti or not. Baba replied that yes, it was Bhakti. This is being done by the PBKs who prepare the VCD*. It may be possible that even this single song is not played in future. But there may be many PBKs who would like to have at least one song/music being played in the background in the VCD*.
Omshanti. If PBKs were simply nodding their heads to whatever ShivBaba says through Baba Virendra Dev Dixit, then one of them would not have asked Baba about the shooting of Bhakti within PBKs in the form of the solitary song/instrumental music played in every VCD* while showing the recording of Baba's drishti and audience.
If it was the soul of Krishna (Lekhraj Kirpalani) who is giving knowledge through Baba Virendra Dev Dixit and if the soul of Lekhraj Kirpalani is responsible for the subtle Bhakti among PBKs, then he would not have accepted that subtle Bhakti was going on among PBKs.
If it was not the Supreme Soul Shiv giving knowledge through Baba Virendra Dev Dixit, then he would not have revealed openly the fact that a few surrendered PBK Sisters had gone back to their homes.
Regards,
OGS,
Arjun