First, my apologies to BKVijay, Mitra and the others. I only offer this posting as evidence that the Brahmakumaris World Spiritual Organisation always knew as did their members that this site was not run by them. They also were aware that certain individuals came here to create trouble, and that this was not supported by "all" BKs.
Secondly, this shows that not all BKs support the
SUPPRESSION OF FREE SPEECH Mitra wrote:"I personally believe that everyone has got the right to speak and express their thoughts. ".
I would hope that this might serve as evidence to those that make the decisions, that this is about an individuals right to
FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION and FREEDOM OF FREE ASSOCIATION. To hand this site over to BK Hansa (and like minded individuals) would be to declare
MARSHALL LAW not only AMERICA but on the WORLD WIDE WEB. It would also serve to intimidate non-military individuals with military threat, otherwise why throw in the "Colonel" bit connection with the US ARMY and in a similar fashion as the threat made on journalist Chin using the Pentagon and the US Embassy in order to silence him (which was posted on this very forum).
This case clearly has higher implications and if others on the WWW don't see it, they may see it when it is too late. A 'dot info' site is to serve as an information service, which we know that the BKs simply do not provide to their members or potential recruits and God forbid their families and friends. Imagine where the Protestants would be if the Holy Bible was still kept only by the Catholic Church, or if the Jewish Faith had claimed the "Old Testament" as their copy right material. The Om Mandali, Prajapita Brahma Kumaris Ishwariya Visha Vidyalaya, Raja Yoga, Brahma Kumaris Word Spiritual Organization, or what ever they are calling themselves these days need to know they cannot stop someone's right to worship as they see fit. It is simply wrong.
Their obsession with the suppression of the PBKs and the other break away groups only shows they are motivated by fear, and desperation to control other human beings right to access information which is the mission of this site(
BrahmaKumaris.info is a wholly independent, not-for-profit, information service documenting the work, beliefs and lifestyle of the Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual Organization (BKWSU), organizers of BK Raja Yoga Centers.). This site has shown a tolerance for other's religious views, as have other sites that acknowledge their existence such as
http://www.wikipedia.org. Is this Golden Age, really the OPPRESSION AGE?
If they are successful in silencing this site via legal action, I will make it my mission in life to let every congregation, denomination and belief system see that this act was as violent an act as if they had beaten us physically. Mentally we bare the wounds. What kind of women's organisation would seek to oppress and silence people in the open discussion of religious beliefs.
One of the greatest possessions a person has is
their voice, their God given right to speak their mind, no matter what their economic position. That is why throughout time, a person's
"word" held such value and honor. The BKs seek to take that from us, as surely as robbing us of our right to exist. If one can not have ones voice, that most vital life force of expression, which defines us, says who we are, states our needs, wants and desires for happiness;
we are being silently murdered out of existence. How can they present themselves as "interfaith" participants to the world, to the United Nations when they commit such acts. Their filing claims that there are no members, yet other materials state they have members? Which is it? To the United Nations, they present themselves as participants on issues of human rights, religious rights and peace yet seek to silence these very principles here. Oppressive governments always seek to divide, to break the group consciousness and to take away the means of communication to gain control. There is no difference in what is being done here. They seek to break us apart, they seek to silence us and take our basic human rights away.
Yes,
http://www.BKUN.org is seeking to silence free people world wide on the world wide web. Perhaps we should send a letter to the United Nations. Oh, my is that BKUN, but why doesn't the United Nations complain to ICCAN as they are using UN, leading people to believe they are part of the United Nations, perhaps even a country, or say a University. No, they wouldn't claim to be a University when they are not! Yes, they do this and the only place you would have access to this information is on a .info site that actually provides information. This site offers information that they don't want known, information on the Child Abuse Report, information about incidents which they would rather keep hidden, information about fellow BKs that feeling tete found suicide a solution because there was no
http://www.brahmakumaris.info site that provided resources, fellowship and other services (true seva).
The legal action only serves to keep vital information and services from those in need which goes against all humanitarian efforts the United Nations stands for and to which the BKs cling to for PR value. When an organisation looses sight of pain and suffering and places a higher value on polishing their image. The truth eventually comes home, closer than one would like and harder to hide.
If you don't protest when your rights are being taken away, other's rights soon will be at peril and soon no one's voice will be heard and there will only be silence.
We have the right to have open discussions on issues that are vital to our mental and spiritual health. We have the most basic human rights to free speech, freedom of association and the right to practice our religious beliefs without fear of oppression. I am a human being and I reserve the right to not have my most basic human rights taken away from me. I am a free human being, I am a human being and will not give these rights up without protest.tete but knowing
I am a human being with human rights. www.brahmakumaris.com.auPosted by: BKVijay Nov 29 2006, 03:33 AM
Om Shanti.
I have been observing the events on the forum called brahmakumaris.info and it is now suspended. The problem, however, it seems was that a BK was causing a lot of trouble and was making accusations without proof, the posts were later deleted or moved, yet this BK was reposting and reposting and refusing to stop posting until his demands were met.
It seems bad because that BK has tarnished the image of us BKs on a public forum even though the opposite was his intention. Now any BKs who were actively involved in the forum would now be under the spotlight.
What can we do in such a situation ?
Today's dharna was to not be greedy for anything, and to decorate yourself with knowledge and Yoga and not with physical decoration. Maybe this BK Brother needs to study more, imbibe more dharna points, and be detached observer. I was disappointed that such a result is the consequence from one of us BKs, and I hope Baba will have mercy and compassion. We should also give mercy and compassion to our fellow Brother.
As this is also a forum, we need to be careful too.
OK. Om Shanti.
Posted by: Mitra Nov 29 2006, 05:23 AM
:huh: I also heard the news . It is sad that we haven't [not all] reached the stage of an Observer.
I personally believe that everyone has got the right to speak and express their thoughts. But there should be a balance to some extent.
IBHS
MITRA
h34r: Posted by: Mitra Dec 7 2006, 04:58 AM
Om Shanti
They have re started the forum . You can access it from
(URL:
http://www.brahmakumaris.info/indexbb.html)
This forum is not directly run by the Brahmakumaris World Spiritual Organisation.
But it do contains a department for BK's.
I request all of you to follow the rules of the respective forums including this forum.
We should always remember that we should keep the respect and dignity of each and every soul regardless of their stand .
IBHS
MITRA :rolleyes: end