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Post03 Sep 2007

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.8, dated 2.1.2000 containing direct Murli narrated at Calcutta

Ref. No.VCD*.,


... What is the main reason for experiencing more pleasure or more pain? (Someone said - Purity) Purity? That purity is more in the virgins. The power of remembrance, which is called - the place of residence of Supreme Soul, i.e. Kashi and in Kashi that tejpunj (cluster of light) resides/exists; the maximum colour of his company gets applied on the residents of Kashi. What do people say? When we are about to die, where should we reach? Kashi. So, will everyone reach Kashi? Will those who have practiced more remembrance throughout the life reach (Kashi) or will everyone reach? One develops the same kind of thoughts in the end, which, one has practiced throughout the life. Then it is said - Ant matey so gatey (as the thoughts in the end so shall be the fate). The intellect of a man, because of the dominance of sex-lust, remains busy in a woman, so, what would be his fate as per his thoughts in the end? As per his thoughts in the end, he would get a female costume (in the next birth). Or in the case of a woman; there is a dominance of sex-lust, in her too. She remembers her man, i.e. husband throughout the life considering him to be God. So, as per the thoughts in the end, she assumes a male costume.

So, when will such thoughts develop in the end that we go and reside in Kashi? What is the other name given to Kashi? Banaaras, where one gets the readymade juice (ras) of knowledge. One does not have to prepare it. It is the place where readymade juice is received. Why is it received? Why is it received? There must be some reason, is not it? Why is the ready-made juice (banaa-banaaya ras) received only in Kashi, in Banaras? Why has any other city not been mentioned? (Someone said - she surrenders completely) No. It is said - Kashi Vishwanath Gangey. So, why does Ganga assume the form of a sword there? And (why does) she not assume the form of a sword at any other place? Ganga does not become such a sharp sword in any other city as much as it becomes on reaching Kashi. What is the reason? (Someone said - the appointed/permanent Chariot...) Yes, stand up and speak, speak loudly. (Someone said-the chosen Chariot) Yes, he is indeed an appointed/permanent Chariot. Shankar's residence is said to be in Kashi. It is only because of Shankar, that the Supreme Soul enters into that appointed/permanent Chariot and prepares the tejpunj (mass/cluster of light), because - where does the connection of the intellect of the children, who are spread all over the world, get concentrated?

Arey, when we remember someone, anyone; a mother remembers her child. If the child is sitting in London, will the intellect of the mother go to any place or only to her child? Will it go only to the child? Will it not go to the place? (Someone said – it would go to the place) Yes, along with the person, the place also becomes important. So, the place where the appointed/permanent Chariot lives, the children who obtain power from the Supreme Soul who enters the appointed Chariot, the soul-form children of the Supreme Soul Father, the spiritual children - where does their intellect go and concentrate? In Banaaras, in Kashi, that is why Kaasya, i.e. tej (light) – a mass/cluster of light gets collected there. The closer one lives to that cluster of light through the intellect or body, there is dominance of the intellect, but even if they live close through the body, then wherever is our body, there shall be our mind – this is the rule.

In the body, the eyes are the foremost. The thing/person the eyes see, it is a rule that it certainly remembers it/him. Whatever is seen through the eyes, works in two ways. One kind of seeing is with attachment, and one kind of seeing is without attachment. But it was definitely observed/seen. Is it possible for anyone to remain Avyakt (unmanifest) without attachment from the morning till the evening? It is not possible. So, those who are body conscious, the Father’s children [who] have got surrendered, they have been living in Madhuban itself, but do not remember the Father through the intellect. Their intellect keeps running in the outside world, but where are they living continuously? Through the physical eyes, the physical organs that are there, where have they been living? They have been living close to the Father. It means that they have been living in the mud-like body, because their intellect keeps running outside. So, have they been living in the mud/soil or have they been residing in the ‘living form’ (chaitanya roop)? So, what is famous even [also] about that mud/soil in the path of worship? It is famous that the lowermost organ of God. Which ones? The legs. Even if one gets the mud on the legs, if one would apply it on his forehead, it is a big fortune! What do they say? Does anyone take the mud stuck to the nose and apply on the forehead? No. If one gets even the mud of the legs. Means, what is the reason? The body, the appointed Chariot in which the Supreme Soul Father enters, every organ of that body acts like a ling. What does it act like? For example, the one in whose company a virgin gets coloured for the first time, the one whose complete colour of company gets applied on her, she is unable to forget that one throughout her life. The first impression becomes the firm impression. Similarly, the Chariot through whom the Supreme Soul Shiv enters in an appointed form and plays an everlasting part, that body is worshipped in form of a ling. What? It is worshipped in the form of a ling. Why?

Why is the entire body worshipped in the form of ling? It is because all the organs of that body become concentrated in that stage, constant in the thoughtless stage, the stage in which the Supreme Soul Father himself becomes constant. He is in that stage. There is no question of becoming like that. He already is, but the body in which He enters, how does that soul also become? It becomes [a soul] with a stage equal to that of the Father. So the colour of the company gets applied completely, that is why, what is believed in the path of worship? Especially in the Indian region, whether the Supreme Soul is corporeal or incorporeal, whether He is close in corporeal form or in an incorporeal form. Even if he is close through the intellect, even if he is close through the body, even if he is close through the mind, the intellect. Both the matters are elevated/superior. Sagun means Sakar, i.e. corporeal and nirgun means niraakaar (incorporeal). That is why Tulsidas has also written – “Sagunahi, aguna hee nahi kachu bheda. Ubhai harai bhav sambhav kheda.” (There is no difference between the corporeal and incorporeal forms of God ...) One must not develop an attitude of partiality towards the corpoeal or incorporeal. The incorporeal is also present in the one who is the corporeal medium
... (to be continued)

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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
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Post04 Sep 2007

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.8, dated 2.1.2000 containing direct Murli narrated at Calcutta

Ref. No.VCD*.


... Without the incorporeal and the corporeal, without the combination of both, the task of benefit of this world cannot occur at all. Both are elevated. That is why what did the Gopis tell Uddhava? What did they say? We do not want your incorporeal (God). We want that corporeal (form of God) whom we have experienced. What? Uddhava was in a male costume [body] and the Gopis were in female costumes [bodies]. Who can completely experience the incorporeal form of the Supreme Soul in practical? Only the [one in] the female costume can experience it completely that when compared to other men, who is more incorporeal? Who becomes constant in the incorporeal stage more? So, the one who can experience; that experience is the most elevated one. The one, who gains experience, does not believe the matters of knowledge to be higher. What does he consider to be higher? He considers the experience to be higher.

So, whether He is corporeal or incorporeal, one should be close, and there is benefit in being close. Why? It is because the souls, which have been in the company of the followers of other religions since many births, which have been in the company of other foreigners, if those souls, in their last birth, due to some noble deed (sukrutya) performed by them in their past birth, come close to the Father, not through the mind and intellect, even though their mother and Father may have forcibly surrendered them. They come as Pushkarni Brahmins. What kind of Brahmins? They have been sent close to the Father by giving a push. So, they too get power. Which power do they get? Is it the power of the company of the incorporeal? No. They get the power of the company of the corporeal. Proof? Take your intellect to the root-like [souls] (aadhaarmoort). What is there in the world of root-like souls? Who became powerful? All the Dadas, all the Dadis, Didis, have loved the corporeal more or have they loved the incorporeal more? They loved the corporeal more. So, what was the result? Although they did not realize the true form through the intellect, even then (still) they have so much power that they possess the power to run the Yagya till now. That is why what has Maya been termed? Maya has been said to be a daughter.

Does Maya recognize the Father and the versions of the Father through the connection of her intellect (buddhiyog)? She does not recognize, but what did she get? She got the company of the Father in corporeal form. She cannot leave the company of the Father in corporeal form. If it fits into her intellect firmly that this is the corporeal form of the Father at present, then it has been said in the Murlis - First of all Maya would surrender. It means that first Maya would surrender through the connection of the intellect, no matter how many children might have surrendered. They surrender partially; they even surrender through their body, they also surrender through their wealth; they also surrender through their relatives; they also surrender through their time, but they do not surrender through their intellect. Still they use their intellect, but how will Maya surrender? She would surrender through the intellect. So, there is also the glory (mahima) of the corporeal. No doubt there is the glory of the incorporeal light. There is the glory of both. There is the glory of the mother as well as the Father. The Father is seed-form. The mother is corporeal in form. The costume (i.e. body) of Prajapita is also an effigy (putlaa) of five elements, is not it? Effigy of five elements means it is an effigy of nature, is not it? That is also a kind of base/support (aadhaar), but the living soul enters. Soul is called purush.

This difference arises. So, the matter being discussed was - to whom does the Father talk? He talks to the children. Two kinds of children emerged - Suryavanshi (belonging to the Sun Dynasty) and Chandravanshi (belonging to the Moon Dynasty). The seed of Suryavanshi and the seed of Chandravanshi. So, to whom does the Father talk? Does He talk to two or does He talk to one? (Someone said - He talks to two) Why does He talk to two? Why does He talk to one? (Someone said - By considering the soul of Prajapita....) Achcha! It means that Prajapita is the one who considers himself to be a soul and does the Mother not consider (herself to be a soul)? (Someone said - The man controls....) The man is the controller - the Creator and what about the Mother? Mother does not control you, that is why you do not even remember. You do not even give her the donation of Yoga (Yogdaan). The Father is forced to say in the Murli - dey daan toh chootey grahan (a proverb from the path of worship, which means that one must make donations in order to be free from the evil effects of an eclipse). Why does the Moon get eclipsed? It is said in case of the Sun. Actually, the Sun cannot get eclipsed. Sun cannot be shadowed by anyone. He does not get influenced by anyone. Even in the lokik world, by whom do the mothers get influenced? When the children grow up, the mothers get influenced by the elder children. She remains under them. This is the speciality of the Indian mothers. When she is born as a daughter, she remains under the control of the Father. When she gets married, she remains under the control of the husband. When the husband dies, when the children grow up, she would remain under the children's control. So, she is the first creation. She is the first creation.

So, what is the task of the creation? The task of the creation is to remain under the control of the creator. She is indeed the first creation, but is Krishna the first-class creation (of the Father) or is mother the first-class creation (of the Father)? One is - being the first creation and one is being the first-class creation. So, who is the first-class creation? It is the child Krishna. Who created him? Did the Father alone create him or did the mother make? The mother created him.

Had the mother not given the power of her purity to the child voluntarily, the child could have never become a king in his life. The soul of Krishna cannot obtain the inheritance of many births from the Father.. That is why it was said in the Murli - Prajapita gets the inheritance from the Father Shiv and Jagdamba gets the inheritance from Prajapita. And all the children get the inheritance from Jagdamba numberwise according to their efforts. Although the children become entitled to the inheritance, they should give regard. To whom? They should give regard to the Mother. But the children commit a very big mistake. Which mistake do they commit, do you know? Don't you know? Everyone commits that mistake. (Someone said something) No. The Father said - One must give regard to the Mother. But what do they do? (Someone said - disregard) No, they do not show disregard to that extent, but what they do is that they forget to remember the Father and start remembering the Mother
...(to be continued)

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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
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Post05 Sep 2007

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.8, dated 2.1.2000 containing direct Murli narrated at Calcutta

Ref. No.VCD*.,


... The Father said – Remember me alone. What should you do? Remember me alone. These are two separate directions. One aspect is that – whom should you give maximum regard in this world? To the mother. Give regard to the mother first, because the mother has created you. It has not been said that – Remember the mother, Brahma. Has it been said in any Murli? It has not been said in any Murli remember Brahma, but they let their intellect free. What do they do? They remember only that thing which appears lovable/pleasant to the eyes, which appears smooth in experience. For example, what did they do in the basic knowledge? The smooth body of Brahma, the tall and sturdy physique of Brahma, very nice smooth behaviour of Brahma. Whom did they remember? They started remembering Brahma's body and are adamant on it even until now. Even if someone tells the truth, they are not ready to listen.

So, this is a very big mistake committed by the children. It happens. What? They let/set the intellect, the mind free. They are not at all aware as to what they should do and what they should not do. That is why instead of the soul becoming powerful, it goes on becoming weak. When they pull the mother through the connection of the intellect (buddhiyog), and when they forget the Father, then will they become a deity or will they become a demon? For example, when Devi Jagaran (night vigil in worship of Devi) is organized/carried out, what do they shout? Victory to whom? Victory to the Mother (Jai mata di). It means the Father should get defeated. They repeatedly shout the slogans – ‘Jai mata di!’ [Victory to the Mother] They forget the Father completely. If they remember him, then they would also say – Jai pita di! [victory to the Father]. They do not say so. This proves that when a friction is created in any matter between the Mother and the Father, although the children themselves become instrumental in creating the friction, then the children’s connection of the intellect gets divided in two directions/ways. Those children whose intellect supports the Father remain very few [There remain very few such children whose intellect supports the Father]. They forget that the Mother is always merged/included in the Father. The Father cannot remain/be there without the mother.

What has been said in the Avyakt Vani? Everybody's eyes are on Delhi. What has been said? Everybody's eyes are on Delhi and the eyes of the Father too (are on Delhi). Why? (Someone said - It is the capital) It is the capital; that is why should we also sit? (Someone said - Dilli is the dil, i.e. heart of the Father) Dilli is the dil, i.e. heart of the Father; is that why everybody's eyes are on Delhi? (Someone said - All the religions, which came, ruled on it) Yes! So, is it good to rule over the mother? Is it good? No. Is it good for the other religions, other countries to rule over Dilli [Delhi]? They came running and won the throne of Delhi and started ruling; they caused massacre/bloodshed [fighting] (maar-kaat). Who caused the maximum bloodshed? Which religion caused the maximum bloodshed after coming to Delhi? His name was Nadir Shah. He ordered massacre. Na dar Shah. What does he not fear (dar)? He does not fear the Shah of Delhi. He does not fear anymore the Shah of Delhi. He carelessly caused massacre, bloodshed in Delhi. Now, which is the blood? Now it is the blood of thoughts. That soul of Nadir Shah is now causing the blood of thoughts to flow in Dilli [Delhi].

The atmosphere of Delhi passes through a lot of ups and downs, or does the atmosphere of Madras, Bombay and Calcutta pass through it more? Who comes under the influence of the climate more? Delhi comes. Delhi comes under the influence to the maximum extent. Is it[she] passing through ups and downs or is [she] in a uniform stage? Does Delhi remain in uniform stage (ekras avastha) or do other cities remain more in the uniform stage? Delhi passes through ups and downs more than others, but the Father's eyes are on Delhi. Although she does not remain in a uniform stage; although it has been said in the Murli. What has been said? The boat of truth would shake, but it would not sink. There are certain demons, there are certain demoniac religions and demoniac countries; they are in living form, they are in the Advance Party, who are ruining Delhi, but the Father's children are also present.

The Father’s children have also understood all the matters. For example, Baba says in the Murli that - Baba has come having taken these eyes on loan.. It has been said in the Murli. The Father has come having taken these eyes on loan- this one who is sitting is a demon; this one who is sitting is a deity. Which Father? The Father Shiv has come having taken (a body) on loan - That is a matter of that time. Of which time? When He was speaking through the body of Brahma. Now, is He not seeing through the eyes now? Is it a matter of seeing through these eyes or is it a matter of seeing through the connection of the intellect (buddhiyog)? He is seeing through the connection of the intellect that which children are performing the messy task of pulling and pushing the Mother and her arms through the connection of their intellect?

The Father has come. He is a Father in an unlimited sense. So, the unlimited Father has come. So, will the arms also be in an unlimited sense or in the physical form? They would be the arms in an unlimited sense, will they not? When there is Jagdamba, then is Jagdamba alone or are there also the arms, i.e. Shaktis of Jagdamba? Brahma is said to be Jagadamba. Big/senior mother, i.e. Jagadamba, how many arms does she possess? There are thousand arms. Through the connection of the intellect if anyone tries to pull those thousand arms, if anyone tries to touch them, if anyone tries to lay his hand on them, then what is he? In Hindi abuses are hurled (at them). They call it abuses (gaaliyan) - He abuses, he is uncivilized, but those abuses are a memorial of which time? They are a memorial of the Confluence Age. Sister ..., mother ..., daughter ... - to which time do these abuses pertain? They are the abuses of the Confluence Age, aren' they? The demoniac children have performed all these tasks in the Confluence Age, haven't they? Now that Prakriti (Mother Nature) would take, not just hundred times, not just thousand times, but she would take lakh (a hundred thousand) times revenge from each one. The sins that have been committed in the 63 births are pardoned, but in this last birth when the roles of each and every soul are going to get revealed
... (to be continued)

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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
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Post06 Sep 2007

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.8, dated 2.1.2000 containing direct Murli narrated at Calcutta

Ref. No.VCD*., Email dtd.03.09.07


... Purush means soul. Which souls among all the ‘purush’ (i.e. souls) are going to become uttam (i.e. highest the best)? So, certainly there are some souls, what are they going to become? When compared to ‘uttam’ (the highest/the best), (they are going to become) lowest (kanishth), inferior (neech), who are called Keechak. How many Keechaks were there? Look, only five Pandavas are famous. How many Keechaks are famous? Don’t you know? How many Kauravs are famous? Hundred. Their number is large. Similarly, hundred Keechaks are also famous. The definition of Keechak given in the Murlis is – dirty brutes. Those dirty brutes intrude into the temples to obtain knowledge and wish to influence the world mothers. They want to influence them and take them under their control. Such dirty brutes, who intrude into the temples and wish to degrade/spoil the post of the Draupadis, whose ‘pad’ (i.e.post) is ‘dhruv’ (i.e. fixed). They want to transform the ones, who have become the followers (anugamini) of the Father into prostitute (Veshya). What happened to those dirty brutes, i.e. Keechaks? Those Keechaks also meet the same fate as those Kauravas. Through whose hands? Through the hands of Bheem.

What does Bheem mean? Bhim means bhayankar (fearsome). That Bhim is none else. He is the one who has been named Shankar Pralayankar (catastrophic), the one who plays the part of Dharmaraj. He is the Raja (King) of Dharma (inculcation of virtues). Who is the king of inculcation of virtues? Which soul is the king of inculcation of virtues? Someone says – Prajapita. Someone says – Dada Lekhraj. Did Prajapita play the role of king of dharana (inculcation of virtues)? (Someone said – Dada Lekhraj) Yes, it is the soul of Krishna, through whom the part of king of dharana was played. Another name given to him in the scriptures is – Dattatreya. He used to adopt virtues. He used not to observe anybody’s vices. What is the name that he got? Names are assigned based only on the tasks that have been performed. ‘Dattatrey’ – given by three. Which three? Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar – these three exist at first. Later on, who is the first child who takes birth through knowledge? ‘Dattatrey’. It means that the soul of Krishna is after the three personalities. He is the one who plays the part of Dharmaraj. At one time he plays the part of the king of inculcation of virtues in practical corporeal form. Then later on he plays a part by entering someone.

He (i.e. Dharmaraj) is not something visible to the eyes. But a picture has been prepared. Which picture has been prepared? On what is he riding? On what is he riding? (Someone said – Lion) Is he riding on a lion? Is Dharmaraj shown to be riding on a lion? He is shown to be riding on a buffalo. Mahish (a buffalo). It is said – Buffalo-like intellect, isn’t it? Riding on what? A buffalo (bhains, bhainsa). And what kind of a costume [body] has been shown? In the middle of the Dilwara temple, his form has been shown to be fair, and a form just opposite to it has been shown sitting in a big dark room which is in the corner. It has been said in the Murli – A dark deity (Kala Dev) is sitting in the dark room. He is black as a snake (bhujang-kala). So, this part a reminder of which time? It is a reminder of the Confluence Age. The Father Dharmaraj has come having taken these eyes on loan. Which eyes? There it has been said – He has come taking on loan the eyes of Dada Lekhraj. Here, which are the eyes? Here the intellect-like eyes are present as well and he is also not blind (andha) through the physical eyes. He also sees through the physical eyes. He understands everything through the intellect. He would take hundred times account of each and every matter; that is why one must take every step after a lot of thinking and understanding while living in this Confluence-Aged world of Brahmins. Otherwise, one would have to repent a lot in the end. The heaven would not get established that easily. So many religious fathers have come, they too wanted to create a world of happiness, but they could not create. Which main obstacle they might have also faced? Which is the biggest obstacle in this Yagya? Sex-lust.

Now the time for making efforts is over. Now the time for study is over. Now the role of the Father is also going to be completed. The role of a mother is already over. Now continue to shout – why didn’t the mother come? Continue to shout and cry. Do not check your actions. The children have grown up. They have become intelligent. If they shout even now – Why didn’t mother come? Now, even after growing up are you remembering the mother? The part of the mother is over. The part of the Father is also almost over. The part of the teacher is also over or, is there anything still to be explained? Is there anything remaining? It has already been said in the Avyakt Vani a long time ago– Whatever Father had to give, He has already given everything to the children. Now there is nothing remaining with the Father to give. Even then just as the students grow up, become research scholars, the research scholars are also given a little guidance in between. So, even now the Father (gives guidance to) those grown-up children, not everyone. What? Not everyone. The Father is giving guidance to those grown-up children even now. They can obtain it (from) the form of a teacher, but what is the last form? That last form is – 'Dharmaraj', who is called Sadguru. What do they say – Sadguru nindak thaur na pavai. (Those who cause defamation of the Sadguru would not find any accomodation/destination/place). When destruction takes place, the children who act in an opposite manner, those who act in an opposite manner right under the eyes of the Father, those who speak in an opposite manner, cannot remain hidden from the Sadguru Father. They would be held by their ears and thrown into such a country, where, during the time of destruction, what would be there in all the four directions? Death and only death would be taking place, only death would be hovering. That is why remember the proverb repeatedly. Which one? ‘Sadguru nindak thaur na pavai.’ (Those who cause defamation of the Sadguru would not find any accomodation/destination/place). Which ‘thaur’ (place/accommodation)? Thaur means place. The place of Madhuban, the place of Mahamadhuban Mount Abu, which is going to get revealed in front of the world in the end. That place of the gathering of the new world, i.e., heaven, which is going to get established in Delhi and the place (thaur) from where the controlling of the entire world is going to take place. They would not be able to reach any place/destination. They would leave their bodies crying in grief. Ant matey so gatey (as the thoughts in the end, so shall be their fate). The entire efforts would go in vain. That is why, more or less it happens like this.

Till now it has happened just like this that Baba has been narrating Murlis. Children have been listening to Murlis. Just as they have listened to stories for 63 births; they heard it through one ear and left it from the other ear. They dusted their dress and went home. Now they should not do like that. Now there is no time at all. What has been said about the time? ‘A lot has passed, a little is left; a very little of the remaining little is left.’ Now, every second is important for the Brahmin children. A second’s drishti is important. The words spoken for a second are important. The actions that are performed in a second through the bodily organs are important. By knowing that importance, by understanding the predominance/importance of time, one must move ahead.

Now, there is no one except the Father to show the right path. What? All the stars are leaving their specific places. They are ‘up’ one moment, and ‘down’ another moment. What has been said for the main souls that play their part? Even for the souls, which are said to be Mahavir [great warriors], it has been said that – Out of the 108, however the rosary of 100 gets prepared up to 90 percent, but the 8 are swinging up and down a lot. So, the chief eight are in such a condition. Just now up and just now down. They are fluctuating up and down. Although it has been said in the Avyakt Vani last year; what has been said? Three seats have been fixed. Father, Brahma and Jagdamba; but along with that it has also been said that 8 are oscillating a lot. It means how many have been left out? (Someone said – the five) Is it five? (Someone said – three) Is it three? Where have the three been left out? Nine are the chiefs of the 9 religions, who remain as the chiefs in the rosary. One has been left. All the remaining are oscillating up and down. One Polar star is standing firm at its place. All the remaining ones leave their places. Sometimes they are on the righteous (i.e. on the right side) of the Polar star, and sometimes they come on the left side and vanish. So, what should be done? When the condition of the big/elder ones is like this, then the small/younger ones should pay a lot of attention on themselves. OK, Omshanti.
(Concluded)

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Post11 Sep 2007

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* NO.340, DATED 13.11.05, BOMBAY mini-Madhubans

CLARIFICATION OF Murli, NIGHT CLASS DATED 07.01.67

Ref. No.VCD*.


Omshanti. This is a night class dated 7th January, 1967. In the Golden Age the climate is always pleasant (bahaari mausam). There will not be patjhad, i.e. autumn there, because there will be very few people there, isn’t it? So there will be houses on the banks of rivers. And there will not be hot climate to necessitate a trip to mountains. This Dilwara temple itself is a 100 percent memorial. When the weather is hot, when the head becomes hot, then where do Brahmins run? They run to the mountains (pahaad). To which mountains? (Someone said - Mount Abu). Mount Abu. Now they do not run to Mount Abu. Those belonging to the Advance Party must not be running to Mt. Abu. Then? (Someone said – to the Shivalik Mountains). Do they run towards Shivalik Mountains? Don’t they run to the Mt. Kailash? Even now they run towards Mount Abu. That is a Mount Abu in limited sense and this is a Mount Abu in unlimited sense. Do you get the ‘boo’, i.e. bad smell? Do you get it? (Someone said –No) You don’t get it? Then how is it Mt. Abu? Do you get the bad smell sometimes? (Someone said – No) Don’t you get it ever? It is false. On the one side is Maya and on the other side is Ram. If Ram is present in the intellect then you get fragrance (khushboo). And Maya causes bad odour (badboo). So can the mountain of defamation (glaani) turn into praises? Hm? Goverdhan Mountain is also famous.

There is a world consisting of 500/700 crore souls. On whom does the burden (responsibility) of the transformation of this world lie?Hm. (Someone said - it lies on the mothers) Does it lie on the shoulders of mothers and virgins? Is there no responsibility on the Brothers? Will Brothers not come in the rosary of 16,108? Hm? (Someone said - they will come) They will come, is not it? As the king, so are the subjects. So, the Kings emerge from among those souls only who become prince-princesses and the Maharajas emerge from those souls only who become Kings. These are the souls who change the whole world. In what way do they change the world? There are souls who transform the world in the best way also and there are also souls who lead the world into a pit. When these souls experience downfall, then the entire world experiences downfall and when these souls rise, then the entire world rises.

For e.g. Baba has said for Delhi-The transformation of Delhi means the transformation of the entire world. It is famous that the reform of Delhi means the reform of entire India. Now Delhi is the capital (Raajdhaani) for everyone. When one soul becomes sinful then everyone becomes sinful and when one soul becomes pure, then everyone becomes pure. Many are contained in one. The King-like quality is contained in one. That is why one has to bear the responsibility that – whatever actions we perform will be copied by others. Has this responsibility been given to men or to the mothers and virgins? Hm? Who has been given this responsibility? (Someone said - It has been given to both) Has it been given to both? (Someone said - it has been given to mothers) Has it been given to mothers? Has it not been given to the virgins? Hm? (Someone said - No) No. Why? Why has it not been given to the virgins? Hm? Is it not given to the virgins? Then why are the virgins transformed into mothers? I transform the virgins into mothers and the mothers into virgins. Why this jugglery (ultam-paltam)? (Someone said - when a virgin becomes a mother, she feels responsible) He makes them mothers also and he makes them virgins also. Adharkumari, i.e. half virgin is also praised and kanyakumari, i.e. virgin is also praised. So whether it is mother and whether it is virgin; if one is a mother, then she will be the fragrance of the Rudramala. And if one is actually a virgin then she will be the fragrance of Vijaymala. Both are required. Vijaymala means Kanya (virgin) and what does Rudramala mean? Mata (mother). Why? Why are you laughing looking at each other? (Someone said - where will the Brothers go?) Brothers are condemned.

When the gates of heaven are opened, then who become instrumental in opening the gate of heaven? Mothers and virgins become instrument. Virgins must also become mothers. One cannot be uplifted without a Mata Guru. So a very great responsibility lies on the mothers and virgins. Men simply clean their hands off everything and sit aside. This is not a disease to be controlled by us. You can get any kind of work like cleaning and mopping done by us. We are ready to hunt and bring the prey. Entrust the task of a hunter to us. As regards the work of cooking and serving, it is the job of mothers and virgins.

So, the eldest mother among all mothers is Jagat Amba (World Mother). She is the mother of the entire world. What does it mean? Is she only the mother of human beings, who perform devi jaagaran (i.e. night vigil in the worship of mother deity) Are they human beings or deities or demons or all three? Hm? Or are they one of them and not the other two? Hm? (Someone said - all three are there). All three? Do the deities require worshiping, to do Bhakti, to perform devi jagaran? (Everyone said - No) And are there deities in this world? (Everyone said - There are no deities).

Who is said to be manushya, i.e. human being? The one who thinks and churns (manan-chintan-manthan) is said to be manushya, i.e. human being. And the children of Manu are called manushya. What is the indication of the children of Manu? Hm? Who will think and churn? Arey, it is a matter of everyday life. When we imbibe purity nicely in the Brahmin life, then mind performs its job in a good noble way. And when we become sinful then the intellect stops working. So manushya, i.e. children of Manu in real sense are those who imbibe purity. What is the first qualification of Brahmins? Purity. If there is no purity then one cannot become a Brahmin. Whether it is a purity of mind, speech or bodily organs; those who remain pure in all the three ways will be said to be Pakka Brahmins. And it cannot be possible that the service done by such Pakka Brahmins does not have any effect. Direct fruit (pratyaksha fal) emerges. For e.g. when the Vijaymala (rosary of victory) emerges, then groups of Brahmins emerge from the basic (party). On the basis of which power do they emerge? It is on the basis of the power of purity.

So in true sense manushya (human beings), i.e. children of Manu, children of Brahma are those who are Brahmins. And then it is the duty of such Brahmins to follow whatever versions emerge from the mouth of Brahma. If they do not accept or follow the versions emerging from the mouth of Brahma, then however much pure they may be, their purity will not work. If not today, they will get revealed tomorrow. Godly version is original. Which version? It is the versions that were narrated through the mouth of Brahma. It is called Ved Vani in the scriptures. The information is true. 'Vid' means 'to know' It is the responsibility of those who obtain true information that they must certainly obtain the true praarabdha, i.e. fruits of the Godly teachings, the fruits of Confluence Age. Which praarabdha? The true praarabdha is knowledge, information, which is called Murli. If there is love for Murli, then it will be said that there is love for the murlidhar. And if there is no love for Murli itself, then definitely how will there be any love for the murlidhar?

So whether it is mothers, whether it is virgins, whether it is Pandavs, everyone can become embodiments of power (shaktiswaroop). If one imbibes the power of purity then one can become embodiment of power. All the tasks of the world get accomplished through the power of purity. Deities are pure. So nature performs all the tasks. And when the same deities become impure from the Copper Age, then they have to perform all the tasks themselves. They stop receiving the cooperation of nature. So it is not a question of becoming mother or virgin. What is the matter about? It is a matter of becoming pure. Purity and remembrance are interdependant. If one imbibes purity then the remembrance will be automatic. And if one practices remembrance, if one imbibes a strong determination (dridhata) that I have to remember only one and if one is reminded of others, then one must reject it. One must not pay attention to it. So, such a soul will certainly get the power of purity. Purity is maintained on the basis of remembrance and the remembrance is maintained on the basis of purity. The other name for this is Lakshmi Narayan. What? Who is the sample of remembrance? And who is the sample of purity? Lakshmi.

Where has Jagdamba been placed? Hm? Yes, when Jagdamba also imbibes a pure life, and comes out of the camp of Rudramala (rosary of Rudra) to one side, then what does Jagdamba also become? She becomes a deity of purity. She also gets the power of purity. She also becomes Shiv Shakti. When she becomes a Shiv Shakti, then there is no need for her to follow the orders of many. In which age does the nature (prakriti) follow the orders of many? Hm? At the end of the Iron Age nature reaches such a stage that she has to follow the orders of even the souls of Naastik, i.e. atheist section, who are most sinful (mahaapaapi), those who cause the destruction of the whole world. And in the Golden Age, nature does not work under the control of anyone. It is constant in its stage (swasthiti). Because of being constant in its stage, it becomes swaabhimaani, i.e. self respecting. Actually, it becomes the Shakti (consort) of Shiv. And the form of Lakshmi is definitely a shakti of Narayan. Call him Narayan, call him Prajapita, call him Krishna or call him Shiv. What has been described as the best efforts? It is to remember Narayan. It means - that form of Narayan, who imbibes 100 percent power of Shiv and becomes the Father of the world (vishwapita). It means the number 500 crore soul of the entire world will also bow before him. So Shiv and the shakti of Shiv. Yoga (connection), Yaad (remembrance) and purity is the birth right of every soul
... (to be continued)

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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
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Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VIDEO CD NO.340, DATED 13.11.05, BOMBAY mini-Madhubans

CLARIFICATION OF Murli, NIGHT CLASS DATED 07.01.67

Ref. No.VCD*.,


.......Be pure, be yogi. What will happen if we become yogi first and pure later on? (Someone said - it will not work) Why? Hm? (Someone said - somebody said something) No, both are together. There must be a balance. If there is no balance, even then one will waver up and down. Power lies in the remembrance of one. Power comes from purity. And all the tasks of the world are accomplished through purity. There is no need to spread any bakheda (quarrel or row), but there is balance. There is balance in the Golden Age and the balance gets disturbed in the Iron Age. Why does it get disturbed? It is because the adultery (vyabhichaar) increases. When vyabhichaar increases then the mind also wavers. The speech also wavers. The speech will support one person and abuse another person and the bodily organs also waver. So the balance of knowledge and Yoga is important.

These shaktis are also two in number. One is Lakshmi and one is Mahalakshmi. She becomes Mahalakshmi when she gets combined with Lakshmi. The purity of Lakshmi and knowledge of Jagdamba gets combined. Why has the balance got spoilt now? (their sanskars do not match) Why does quarrel take place? Hm? At Balaji or Tirupati (a temple dedicated to Vishnu in South India). Tirupati is perfect form, isn’t it? Whose temple is it? Hm? It is dedicated to the perfect stage. Then why are his wives shown to be quarelling so much in the path of worship? (Someone said – the natures and resolves do not match) Arey, when they are perfect (sampoorna), then the nature and resolves should match. (Someone said – in the Confluence Age) Yes, in the Confluence Age, the soul playing the role of Tirupati attains the perfect stage first and his wives’ part does not reach the perfect stage.

The one who is Brahma has to become Vishnu, isn’t it? All other titleholder Brahmas have to become Vishnu in a second. So unless the sanskar (yuti) of everyone matches, the perfection cannot get revealed. There is a proverb that ‘ek chana bhaad nahee phod sakta’ (a single corn seed cannot be fried into a popcorn) What? If Shiv wishes to complete the task alone; if he does not become the companion of shaktis or companion of Pandavas then the task cannot get accomplished. Shiv is also required, Vaishnavi is also required and Pandav, i.e. Jagdamba is also required. Is Jagdamba a form of Pandav or a form of Shakti? She is a representative of Pandavas, because all the beads of Rudramala are male. In the female costume, she has a form of mother. Then how can Jagdamba become instrumental in opening the gates of heaven? Hm? Will the female costume open the gates of heaven or will the male costume open the gates of heaven? Here it’s not a question of costume at all. What is being talked about here? Hm? It is a matter of soul conscious stage. Is the soul a male or a female? It is a male form. If a soul becomes stable in its form, then it is a male form, i.e. purush roop.

The word ‘Paurush’ is coined from ‘purush’, the one who controls this ‘puri’, i.e. abode, the one who sleeps blissfully. This is a body-like abode. If many foreign elements (vijaateey dravya) have got filled up in this body then it catches disease, isn’t it? If the body is suffering from many diseases; if there is a lot of pain (vyatha), a lot of misery (tadpan) in the body, then can a soul experience the state of blissful sleep in it? It cannot experience.

There are Kings in the Golden Age also and there are Kings in the Copper and Iron Age also. Who rules more comfortably? (Someone said – In the Golden and Silver Age) Why? It is because the soul conscious stage is strong (in the Golden Age). And in the Copper and Iron Ages the soul conscious stage is not strong. So, swasthiti (stage of the self) has the power of controlling the paristhiti (circumstance). Even now we experience. When we are not in our own stage (swasthiti) then the same circumstances, the same atmosphere disturbs us a lot. The stage becomes heavy. And during the days when the one’s own stage is nice, then it is felt as if nothing has happened at all. We are at a great height and because the circumstances and problems are situated much below, they are very small. A sound emerges from inside – let whatever may happen. The stage remains carefree (nishchint). It means that there is intoxication (nashaa).

For example if a drunkard drinks and a lot of dispute is going on at his house, many people have fallen sick; everyone is crying from all the directions, and he is in a drunken state, then what does he think? Let whatever may happen. He does not feel anything. He experiences the intoxication of his emperorship (baadshaahi), isn’t it? That is a temporary intoxication. As soon as the intoxication subsides, the drama ends. And here it is Naraayani (i.e. Narayan-like) intoxication. What? Which intoxication? Naraayani intoxication. Why? Why has it not been called Jagdambayi (Jagdamba-like) intoxication? Hm? Why is it called Naraayani intoxication? (Someone said – the one whose house is filled with knowledge) Hm? (Someone said - the one whose house is filled with knowledge). Yes, Narayani intoxication means – Narayani means Lakshmi. What is the Lakshya (aim) of the life? The aim is to get transformed from a man to Narayan and from a woman to Lakshmi. If one becomes Narayan and if he does not find Naryani, then will he get any pleasure in kingship? Hm? Will he get? Hm? He will not get. He will not experience any pleasure of power (satta ka sukhh). Leave the queen. If a king has an infertile (baanjh, i.e. barren) queen; She is unable to reproduce. Even then what happens? Hm? Even then one feels worried after some time. What does one worrry about? Hm? The inheritor (vaaris) has not come. There is such a big kingdom. Whom will I transfer this kingdom? Even if I adopt someone, I am not sure of his blood. If it is one’s own child then one is sure that the blood is mine.

Then here it is a matter in unlimited sense. Which matter in unlimited sense? Some land is very fertile. And some land becomes barren (banjar). There is no productivity in it. So the cost of the barren land gets reduced a lot. And the cost of the fertile land increases a lot. What is done in the Iron Age? Fertilizers, chemicals are repeatedly added and the land, which does not produce anything, and even if it produces, it is eaten away by insects. How is that land made? Hm? It is made productive (upjaau) for a temporary period (alpakaal). Will the capability of the land that becomes fertile for a temporary period decrease with time or increase with time? Its capability (kshamata) decreases day by day
.....(to be continued)

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Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VIDEO CD NO.340, DATED 13.11.05, , BOMBAY mini-Madhubans

CLARIFICATION OF Murli, NIGHT CLASS DATED 07.01.67

Ref. No.VCD*.,


... So the fertilizer is of two kinds. One is artificial fertilizer, i.e. chemical and the second is natural manure. Natural manure or biofertilizer (jaivik khaad) is prepared from the leaves etc. and from the insects that are born automatically inside the Earth. This is the difference. What is the manure (khaad) here in the world of Brahmins? Hm? Arey, does any fertilizer get added in the Golden and Silver Age? Does it not get added? Does any fertilizer not get added? So how do the celestial degrees (kalaaen) decrease? Hm? (Someone said - the alloy of silver gets added). The alloy (khaad) of gold and silver gets added, is not it?

In the Copper Age Copper-like souls descend. ... So, the alloy gets added in the Copper Age also, isn’t it? And alloy gets added in the Iron Age too. It is not that the alloy of wrathful souls and lustful souls stops getting added in the Iron Age. That alloy also keeps on increasing day by day because souls of every religion keep descending in this world in maximum numbers. It is not true that – they descend in the beginning and then stop descending later on. For e.g. it is not true that the deity souls descend only in the Golden and Silver Ages and that they do not descend in the Copper and Iron Ages. They start descending from the Golden Age and Silver Age and the souls of every religion keep coming till the end of Iron Age. This does not stop in between.

So although the population increases, the deformities (vikrutiyaan or vices) also increase and the alloy also keeps increasing. If the increased fertilizer, that world of fertilizers, the agriculture using fertilizers is stopped and if the natural farming commences, then what will have to be done for that unlimited natural farming? Hm? (Someone said-remembrance of one ...) Hm? (Someone said – one Father and none else) Yes. For that only unadulterated (avyabhichaari) vibrations are required. The adultery (vyabhichaar) of vision (drishti) causes downfall. The adultery of speech and bodily organs certainly causes downfall, but the adultery of vibrations should not happen. And where does that begin? From where does the adultery of vibrations begin? Hm? Everything starts and the foundation for everything is laid in the Confluence-Aged world of Brahmins, isn’t it?

The vibrations are connected to vision. Vision (drishti) corrects the thoughts (vritti). Drishti spoils the vritti. When does it spoil? When does the vision spoil? When it comes in the company of many, when it gets the company of vision of many, then the vision gets spoilt. And when there is a company of one, then the vision reforms. What does it reform? It reforms the thoughts (vritti). The vibrations get reformed. So when these eyes are kept open, then will the open eyes observe everyone or not? They will see. So what did the sanyasis (monks) start doing? They started closing their eyes. OK. They closed their outer eyes and the inner eyes remained open, then what will happen? There will be even more disorder. So, it is not a question of keeping these eyes open or not. Baba has given us the mantra of not observing while seing through these eyes, not listening while hearing through the ears.

So we have to make our stage like that. Who will make? (Someone said-father will make) Fathers are also two. One is the point of light. He is the Father of point-like souls. And one is the Father of human world. Which Father will make (our stage like that)? Who will reform the world (srishti) through the vision (drishti)? (Someone said - the Father of human world). Will the Father of human world reform? Where had he gone in the (past) 63 births? Had he run away anywhere? Hm? Hm? (Someone said something) Hm. (Someone said - Father of human world will have to reform) The Father of human world will have to reform. It means that he is very spoilt (bigdail). He gets reformed very late. The children of Abraham, Buddha, Christ get reformed soon, is not it? When Supreme Soul Shiv comes in this world, then first of all the atheists get reformed. Hm? The souls of other religions get reformed first. And the swadharmi souls (belonging to the deity religion), you are firm (pakkey) in your religion.

Those who are firm in their religion cannot get converted to any other religion. So they will get reformed later on. Hm? Arey Bhai, will the one who has practiced the act of coming into the influence of company more, be able to leave the influence of the company late or early? Suppose, Ibrahim came; along with Ibrahim Islam arrived. And the followers of Islam came. So, which religion adopted more sinfulness (patitpanaa) among all the vidharmis (heretics)? The souls of Islam became more sinful. Wrathful (krodhi) souls are not said to be sinful. So, will those, who have become more sinful; will those who have been sinful for many births become pure first or will the souls belonging to the atheist religion (naastik dharma), who have come in the last, become pure first? Those who have come first will only become pure first. Why will they become pure (first)? What is the reason that they would become pure and those who come in the end would become pure later on? (Someone said – they are numberwise, isn’t it?) Why are they numberwise? Why did they attain the first numbers? Do those who are lustful, more sinful recognize Father first? Hm? Do the Christians first recognize Father more or do the Islamic people recognize first? What is happening in the practical world now? Hm? Now in the world of Brahmins and in the outside world are the Islamic people recognizing more, are the Muslims recognizing more or are the Christians recognizing more? (Someone said – It is the souls of Islam) Hm? (Someone said – It is the souls of Islam) Are the souls of Islam recognizing more? Hm? How many Islamic people are sitting here? (Someone said – It is a matter of the seed-like souls, isn’t it?) Hm? (Someone said – Baba, it is a matter of the seed-like souls, isn’t it?) Arey, whether it is seed-like souls, whether it is base-like souls and whether it is the world consisting of 500/700 crore leaves, the fluid (ras or juice) will be the same, isn’t it? If the seed of Neem tree is bitter, then the roots will also be bitter, then the branches will also be bitter and the leaves will also be bitter. It is the seed, isn’t it? As the seed, so is The Tree. Yes, please. So Islam gets reformed first and the latter religions do not get reformed first. Why do they get reformed first? (Someone said - they come close to Father) Yes, it is because they become close. How do they become close? Hm?

It has been said - when the revelation takes place, Maya will surrender first of all. What? Why does Maya surrender first of all? Hm? Maya surrenders first of all and the one who surrenders first is a secret matter. The one who surrenders first of all through mind, intellect, bodily organs, body, wealth becomes powerful. The children of Father do not get the title of Almighty (sarvashaktivaan). And who gets it? Maya gets it. So, on what basis does Maya get the title of Almighty? She surrenders first of all. Here also it is a similar case. In the basic knowledge, there are souls who have surrendered themselves ever since the basic knowledge began. In the Advanced Knowledge, there are souls who have surrendered themselves ever since the Advanced Knowledge began and ever since its practical form got revealed, for whom Baba says – even those living close to me are unable to recognize me. And it is not just for a short period. Those who have been living close to me for a long period are unable to recognize me. And the bandheli mothers (those in bondages), who are living far away, recognize me.

So if the recognition (of Father) is firm, then one can also surrender. If the recognition is not firm, then there is no use in surrendering. Maya has not surrendered so far. OK, for children it may be said – have the children surrendered completely? Hm? (Someone said – They have not) Haven’t they? Are they telling with their own mouths? Hm? Hm? They did surrender, but sometimes in between, Maya comes in front of you and claps. OK, if you have surrendered, then shake both your hands with me. Just shake your hands with me a little. And the tyre gets punctured in the face of Maya’s storms (chakkari). Then they lose faith (i.e. become anishchaybuddhi). Anishchaybuddhi (Someone said – vinashyati, i.e. get destroyed). No Vinashyati means destruction of what? The one, who had become a child, got destroyed. Anishchaybuddhi means ‘he/she died’. And what does nishchaybuddhi mean? Becoming victorious means becoming Father’s child
... (to be continued)

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Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VIDEO CD NO.340, DATED 13.11.05, , BOMBAY mini-Madhubans

CLARIFICATION OF Murli, NIGHT CLASS DATED 07.01.67

Ref. No.VCD*.


... So children keep passing through The Cycle of faith and faithlessness in their intellects. Does Prajapita pass through this cycle or not? Hm? (Someone said - No) Prajapita’s day and night is not famous. Whose day and night is famous? Brahma’s day and Brahma’s night. Brahma’s night is famous. So does Brahma transform his night into a day or not? Hm? Is Brahma the one to transform night into day or not? Does he make or not? Does Brahma transform Brahma's night into day or not? Hm? (Someone said - He will make) He will make. OK, raise your hand. Someone says - he will make; someone says - he will not make. Raise your hand - Is Brahma the one to transform his night into day or not? Raise your hand in 'He is'. He is. Hm. Brahma is the one to transform his night into day. Raise your hands. Arey, it is a simple matter. How can the one who is in night, the one, who is already in the night of ignorance create day? The one who is not at all the God of Gita, then because of not being the God of Gita he cannot usher in day. The one who transforms the night of ignorance into day is one God only. It is not Brahma. It is not Vishnu either. Who is it? Prajapita. So until Prajapita gets revealed in the form of Prajapita, i.e. until Shiv enters into him, he cannot make any effort to transform night into day.

Shiv enters into Brahma also. Brahma is the name of many. Is it the name of one or the name of many? Brahma is the name of many. There was a Brahma at the beginning of the Yagya also. There were two mothers, who used to give directions, who used to enable the performance of drill. They used to sit as teachers. They also held the title of Brahma. There was an Aadi Brahma also. So Brahma is the name of many. But Prajapita is the name of one only. So, the one, who is Prajapita was at the beginning of the Yagya also. He is in the middle also. And Prajapita remains in the Confluence-Aged world of Brahmins till the end also. He is present, but only in the beginning and in the end; what is the difference in the middle? He is incognito in the beginning. He also gets revealed in front of some souls in the middle. Just now he gets revealed, just now he vanishes. Just now they develop the faith - this is our Father and just now they lose the faith. And in the end? In the end everyone will recognize that - He is the one, He is the one, He is the one. So, when everyone recognizes, then it will be said that he is – the one, who transforms the night into day. And the remaining human gurus transform the day into night.

Then the Brahmakumaris will come and fight that how do you call our Brahma Baba as the one who creates night? Do you call him Dharma Guru (religious preceptor)? Is he a human guru? Brahma is not worshipped. Brahma’s idols are not prepared. Brahma’s temples are not constructed. There must have been some reason? What was the reason? What is the reason for the task not getting accomplished through that personality? That personality (moorty) has to become unmanifest (amoort). Amoort means that he has to become subtle (aakaari). He has to renounce his personality (moorty, i.e. idol) and he has to assume the personality (moorty) of someone else. So, when the task was not accomplished through one’s own idol (i.e. body) then that idol is not worshipped, temples are not constructed (for that idol). The personality (moorty) through whom the task is accomplished becomes famous. That is why Brahma’s day and Brahma’s night is famous. Prajapita’s day and Prajapita’s night is not famous.

It means that there is only one such soul in the entire human world, which, in spite of the commencement of the Dwaparyug (Copper Age), in spite of the commencement of dwaitwaad (duality), in spite of the commencement of two opinions, two versions, it keeps facing the dualistic souls. The extent to which that soul makes sacrifices for truth, for the true ancient religion (satya sanaatan dharma), cannot be made by anyone else. It has been told that it is better to die in one’s own religion, but it is not good to adopt others’ religion. So doesn’t the soul of Prajapita become vidharmi (heretic)? Hm? (Someone said - It does not become) Does that soul not become heretic (vidharmi)? Does it remain swadharmi for 84 births? Hm? Hm? (Someone said - It remains firm in whichever religion it enters) Does it remain firm in whichever religion it enters? (Someone said something). No. No, that which we call as Swadharma; Swadharma (literally it means - one’s own religion) means true religion. It means ancient (Sanaatan) religion.

‘Sat’ means truth. So is there truth in every religion or not? There is truth in every religion, isn’t it? So, is that soul of Prajapita a seed of all the religions or is it a seed of one religion? He is the Father of everyone, isn’t it? But wherever it goes and establishes kingship, it establishes a righteous kingship (saatwik raajai), a righteous rule and law. It follows the rules and laws of the ancient (Sanaatan) religion only and enables others also to follow the same. It lays the foundation for every religion. There are four dimensions of the kingship of every religion. Satopradhan (completely pure), Satosaamaanya (relatively pure), Rajo (partially impure) and Tamo (completely impure) So, Prajapita becomes the one to establish rules and laws. And he is instrumental for every religion. He is instrumental in giving the inheritance of kingship. But he establishes a righteous kingship. He adds the customs of true ancient religion in the foundation of every religion. And later on, everything in the world becomes tamopradhan (degraded).

So, souls of every religion become degraded later on. First of all they are satopradhan (pure). When they are pure then they contain a trace (ansh) of true ancient religion (satya sanaatan dharma). And when they become degraded, then the features of the religions, which come later on, enter into them. Today which religion is prominent in the entire world? Hm? Are the Christians prominent? Are the Muslims prominent? There was only the rule of Muslims in the entire world 100-150 years ago. And the Muslims ruled for a long time. Now the Christians have become a majority within the last 100, 200 years. And now whether it is Christianity, whether it is Islam, whether it is Buddhism, whether it is Sanatan Dharma, the effect of one religion or in other words irreligiousness is increasing. The effect of atheism (naastikvaad) is increasing. The entire world is moving towards atheism. Why? (Someone said - Father has been made omnipresent) No. It is moving towards atheism because in the beginning every religion is identical to the true ancient religion (satya sanaatan dharma). There is goodness in them. And in the end they come under the influence of the last religion. So, now it is the end of the whole world. So under whose influence should the entire world be? The entire world should come under the influence of the semi-atheists Arya Samajis and the atheist Russians.

There was a kingship at the beginning of the Golden Age. Father had come and established kingship. He started the custom of kingship. He ended the custom of - rule of subjects over subjects. And now, what is the condition of today's world? Hm? In the entire world, it may be any country, it may be any religion, except a few countries like Nepal, the entire world is under the influence of atheism. The rule of subjects over subjects is increasing. Even if there is a rule of a King for namesake in Nepal, attacks are taking place there too. Whose attacks are taking place? (Someone said - Maovaadi, i.e. Maoists). It is the attacks of Ammavaadis (followers of Amma, i.e. mother). What is the name given to them? Maovaadi. It is because is it mother, who comes under the influence of children very soon or is it Father who comes under the influence of children soon? Mother gets engrossed in the affection so much that she comes under the influence of children. And does she come more under the influence of younger children or under the influence of the elder children or under the influence of the middle children? In a way, both mother and Father love either the elder child or the youngest child. Why is the eldest one loved? The eldest one is loved because he can sustain us. He will grow-up first, is not it? Until then we will grow old. And the youngest one is loved because he is young. The elder one has already grabbed power and the younger child does not have anything. So the thoughts of affection are directed towards him also.

So, similarly who is sitting closest in the picture of Tree? Hm? The soul belonging to the atheist religion is sitting closest. And such souls obtain more love from mother and Father. They obtain love from mother as well as Father, because they know. What? Mother and Father know that they are not going to receive anything. If they are going to achieve anything, then that will be through us. That’s all. They do not receive any kingship. That is why those younger ones are made to sit nearer and they receive a lot of love. So it is famous – chota so khota (the younger one is obstinate). Omshanti.
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VCD* No.703, Cassette No.1189, dated 18.06.07, at Anantpur mini-Madhubans

Clarification of Sakar Murli dated 17.10.67

Ref. No.VCD*.


Omshanti. Today is the morning class dated 17th October, 1967. Sweet children come here to get refreshed through the spiritual Father. Then, after getting refreshed, they go back; so, certainly, they should do something and show (i.e. set an example). The matter of which children was mentioned? The matter of the spiritual children was mentioned. They do something and show. Every child has to give the proof of service. What is the proof of service? Arey! The proof of service is - to bring out new heirs (vaarisdaar). If they serve anyone, he would become the Father's child. If he becomes the Father's child, if he takes the message - this is the first thing. He would undergo the course, he would fill himself with force, he would undergo bhatti, and then he would serve others, then the proof of service would emerge/come, is not it? For example, some children say - we wish to open a center. Someone will not simply desire to open a center. Someone must have served him; so, it proves that this is a fruit of service. Service should also be done in the villages.

So, the children should always think that - we should do such service through the mind, words and actions, through the body, mind and wealth that we get the returns (evzaa) for future 21 births from the Father. The matter of returns for 63 births has not been mentioned. Why? From whom do we get the returns for the 63 births? As the sanskars of making efforts that we inculcate here in the Confluence Age, according to those sanskars of fast or slow speed (of efforts) we get the fruits for 21 births from the Father and then on the basis of 21 births, the karmic accounts of 63 births are also created. So, we have only this obsession/fervor (ona). Do I do anything, do I give knowledge to anyone. Throughout the day, we should think about this.

You may open a center, but there should not be any rift (anban) between the wife and the husband at home. There should not be any fighting/quarrel (ghamaasaan) at the homes of those who open a center. The sanyasis run away from the quarrels at home. Then does the Government stop them? It is only the men who leave. Now some mothers also leave (the household). The Sanyasi Pandas (the guides among the sanyasis) teach even those who do not have any guardians (dhani-dhori), or those who become detached. They make them to do their business. Those sanyasis, etc. have a lot of money. Actually, when they leave the household, there is no need to keep any money. So, now the Father is explaining you children. What is He explaining? He is explaining that those who surrender themselves in Godly service, when their connection with the lokik household gets severed, then there is no need to keep any money, etc. with them. Whatever they get, they should go on dedicating in Godly service.

It should enter everybody's intellect that - we have to do only one business-of giving the introduction of the Father. Human beings do not know anything. So, how will they give the introduction? They are ignorant. For you children, the Father's order is - Sweet children, consider yourself to be a soul. This is the first main thing. It should not happen like this that you become the Pandits [teachers] who just narrate knowledge. What matter should be firm along with narrating The Knowledge? We souls who narrate knowledge, are in the form of mind and intellect like points of light. We are not body. If one does not remember this while explaining, if one becomes bodyconscious, then just as the worldly Pandits are there, they too become body conscious and narrate The Knowledge of the scriptures. They feel that - we have acquired this knowledge; it has become ours. So, one should not become a Pandit. One must make a lot of efforts for soul consciousness. Otherwise, one would have to repent a lot.

[Children] say – Baba, we forget repeatedly. Other thoughts emerge. Baba says - they would definitely emerge. Why would they emerge? Those thoughts which emerge in large numbers when we repeatedly make efforts to sit in Baba's remembrance, then why do other thoughts emerge? It is because the shooting is taking place now. The rehearsal of 84 births is taking place. So, at the time of rehearsal all that, the part which we have played, would emerge; that is why Baba says - whatever is predetermined is happening, nothing new is to happen now. Whatever good or bad deeds one has performed in the 63 births, so shall be the reel that keeps rotating. If one has performed good deeds and if that reel emerges, then automatically good efforts are made, and if bad deeds emerge, then howevermuch hard we try, we are unable to make efforts at all. We forget the remembrance again and again. That is why it has been said – these good and bad thoughts would certainly emerge; still, you have to remain in the remembrance of the Father and become satopradhan [elevated/pure].

The soul, which is impure, has to be made pure by remembering the Supreme Father Supreme Soul. The Father himself gives the direction to the children – O obedient children! I order you – if you remember me, your sins would be cut/burnt. First of all, say this. By remembering whom, would the sins get burnt? By remembering the one who is always niranjan (faultless/flawless), niraakaar (incorporeal), nirvikaari (viceless/without vices), nirahankari (egoless), our sins would get burnt. He is always benevolent [SadaaShiv]. Nobody else in the world is always benevolent [SadaaShiv], always incorporeal, without vices, and egoless. One must recognize Him. After recognizing Him, one should remember Him.

The first matter that you should narrate – the incorporeal ShivBaba says – remember me. Which soul says this? Does the soul in which He has entered, the soul of that corporeal bodily being say – ‘remember me’ or does the incorporeal, faultless soul, which enters in a permanent/appointed form say? All other embodied souls, have to practice to achieve the incorporeal stage. In whose remembrance is Shankar also sitting? Why is he sitting? One remembers someone only when one achieves something from him. So, when the highest deity himself has been shown to be sitting in remembrance, then the other numberwise souls, who are to become deities, would also have to certainly remain in remembrance, but whom would they have to remember? It would not be possible through the remembrance of any bodily being that we may remember Ram or we may remember Krishna or we may remember the last body (costume) of their last birth. No! When we remember, whose task/work should we remember? Whose words should we remember? Although Father Shiv speaks through the last body of Ram and Krishna, but which soul speaks? It is the soul of Shiv
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VCD* No.703, Cassette No.1189, dated 18.06.07, at Anantpur mini-Madhubans

Clarification of Sakar Murli dated 17.10.67

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... The name itself is Shiv. His name is not based on the body. On what is the name based? The name of his bindi (point) itself is Shiv. The names are based on the actions/deeds. How would that bindi (point) act? Is it by jumping? Will it jump? No. It would enter into some or the other body. It enters and plays a part. Well, it is upto the individuals to recognize. That is why Baba used to ask – into whose lap have you come? So, some children used to say - Baba, we have come in your, i.e. Brahma Baba's lap. Then Baba used to say - failed. There is one body and two souls. So, into whose lap have you come? There is benefit in coming into whose lap? In whose remembrance is there benefit? There should be the remembrance of ShivBaba that - we have come into the lap of ShivBaba. Otherwise, the soul of Brahma has taken 63 births in the past too – [i.e]. the soul of Krishna or the soul of Ram. Earlier too we had come in their company. Why were we not uplifted then? Were we uplifted or did we go on degrading? We went on degrading. So, it has been said - remember me. First of all tell about this matter. I alone am the purifier of the sinful ones. The sins would get destroyed through my remembrance. There is neither any other means nor can anyone narrate this method of getting transformed from sinful ones to pure ones. I alone come and narrate. The soul of Ram or Krishna also does not narrate. It is only one soul, which shows the path of getting transformed from sinful ones to pure ones.

There are numerous sanyasis and so on. They give invitations - come and participate in the conference. They keep organizing so many conferences, etc. Well, nobody is going to benefit from their Yoga. There are numerous Yogi Ashrams, who do not know about this Yoga at all. They do not know the Father at all – the Father who teaches RajYoga, and by learning that RajYoga, big deities like Lakshmi-Narayan became Maharaja, Raja, became the Raja-Maharaja of Golden and Silver Age, and imbibed the sanskars of kingship. Nobody knows that ‘one’ who teaches that Rajyog. The unlimited Father himself comes and teaches Rajyog. It is not that He comes in the body of Brahma, narrates The Knowledge and departs, and then some human gurus teach rajyog. Nobody except one Supreme Father Supreme Soul can teach Rajyog. This is a matter of applying the colour of company. Rajyog does not mean just narrating knowledge. One must have to come in connection and contact. One must enter into a relationship. That is why the Father says – Establish all the relationships with me, the Father. You would get the essence/pleasure (rasna) of all the relationships through me alone; then all other attachments would break. If you do like this, you children would become equal to the Father.

The Father makes you children equal to Himself, doesn't He? Just as I am incorporeal. In what way does He make equal to Himself? Just as I am incorporeal, without vice [viceless], egoless, you would also become incorporeal, without vice, and egoless. Will you become equally? Will everyone become equally incorporeal, without vice, and egoless? Exactly equal efforts cannot be possible. Thousands of sacks of grains are placed. They are also seeds. Suppose there are wheat seeds. They are sown in the fields. Plants emerge from them. Out of a thousand sacks of wheat seeds, does even a single plant match the other plant completely? It doesn't match, does it? Similarly, you souls also contain different kinds of sanskars since many births. There are 500 crore (5 billion) human souls; the sanskars of one does not match with the other.

I come in this body temporarily. In which body? I come temporarily in the body of Brahma. What does temporary mean? The Confluence Age is for hundred years. For how long do I come? (Someone said - 18 years) Why 18 years? The Murli is being narrated since 1947. From (i.e. since the days of) Karachi. Ever since the Murli is being narrated from Karachi, it was narrated through the body of Brahma. Whichever body I enter, will have to be named Brahma. So, Vani was narrated for 21 years from 1947 to 1968. Out of 100 years, will the 21 years be called temporary or permanent? It would be called temporary. So, the Father tells - This is not my body. Which body? The body of Brahma is not my body. I explain through this mouth by taking the support of the temporary body. He is also the mother, is He not? Who? ShivBaba. Why was 'also' added? Why was 'also' added? Was it added for Father Shiv or for Brahma? Father Shiv is also the mother, is not He? He is the mother through Brahma. He says, so, both are there, isn’t it?

What all has been written in the scriptures. Now the lucky Chariot would certainly be only that of a human being. Why? cannot the Chariot of a bull be lucky? Why not? It cannot be (lucky) because how would He narrate knowledge through the mouth of a bull? Bull is an animal. Will human beings listen to and narrate knowledge or will the animals listen to and narrate knowledge? Only the human beings will listen to and narrate knowledge. Human beings possess a mind, an intellect. Because of possessing mind and intellect, they control the vibrations. Animals do not have mind and intellect as sharp as human beings. So, I would come only in a human body, wouldn’t I? They have shown a bull. A bull will not be called a lucky Chariot, will it? Arey! Will the bull be called a lucky Chariot? It will not be called. As for the rest, it isn’t a matter about a horse etc. Neither is there any matter of war etc.

You know that - We have to fight only with Maya. It is also sung - Maya tay haarey haar Maya tay jeetey jeet (One becomes a loser by getting defeated by Maya and one becomes victorious by gaining victory over Maya). Man kay haarey haar, man kay jeetey jeet (One becomes a loser by getting defeated by mind and one becomes victorious by gaining victory over mind) - Is it not said so? It is said. Then is it not said that – Indriy jeetey jagadjeet (one becomes victorious over the world by gaining victory over the organs)? It is said. It means that there is a connection between all the three. The eleventh organ is the mind; and the mind is main, chief among all the organs. Pleasure cannot be experienced through any organ, pain cannot be experienced (through any organ) until the mind gets involved in it. What? The mind is focussed somewhere else and the eyes are open. If a person passes in front of the eyes, does one remember the face of that person? One does not remember. Why did one forget? Although the eyes are open, the eyes did not comprehend the subject because the mind is busy somewhere else.

So, RajYoga would be taught only to the one, who possesses mind. Do bulls have mind and intellect? When a bull gets excited, will it sit to think through the mind and intellect - shall I do or shall I not do? It would do it because it has an animal intellect. A human being is compelled to think that - in such a moment and at such a place, if I act in this manner with such a person, what would be the result? He would think 20 times. So, I enter a human being who thinks and churns. What is the name itself? Manushya (human being). Offspring of Manu. Offspring of the one who thinks and churns. Did Brahma think and churn? He listened to whatever Shiv spoke through his mouth. Mama used to think and churn more than him. Om Radhey Mama. As for Brahma Baba, he could not think and churn, that is why Baba gave him a name, a title. What? This Brahma is like a baby. What name was given to Brahma? Baby. Just as someone possesses a child-like intellect - he does not think and churn anything. Such a name was given.

So, the part through Brahma would not be called a part of lucky/fortunate Chariot (bhaagyashaali rath). Then which part would it be called? (Someone said - the part of badee Maa, i.e. big/senior/elder mother) A part of big/senior/elder mother was played. It is sung - Maya tay haarey haar (one becomes victorious by gaining victory over Maya) and, does Maya attack the eleven organs more or does it first attack the mind? First it attacks the mind. It takes the mind under its control. One sits in remembrance, one engages one's mind and intellect in remembrance and Maya makes the mind to fly with it. When the mind flies away, when the eleventh, i.e. main organ comes under control, then the other ogans gradually, automatically come under the control of Maya. So, it is said that Maya tay haarey haar man tay haarey haar (One becomes a loser by getting defeated by Maya and one becomes a loser by getting defeated by Maya) and then the mind especially controls the eyes or the sex-organs. Sex-lust, anger, greed, attachment and ego begin with eyes. If sex-lust emerges in the mind, then it would be visible through the eyes. If anger emerges (in the mind), then it would be visible through the eyes. So, it is said - 'Kaam jeetey jagadjeet' (By gaining victory over sex-lust one becomes victorious over the world) There is a connection between sex-lust and the sex-organ(s). If anyone has gained victory over sex-organs, then it is as if he has conquered the entire world. It is not said that 'if one gains victory over anger, he has become conqueror of the world'. What? If one gains victory over sex-lust, he becomes a conqueror of the world.

So, you can explain these matters very nicely, but now you are learning. What? One is the learner and one is the teacher, who teaches. Is the teacher who teaches, trained or is the learner trained? (Someone said - the teacher) The teacher is trained. So, now you are learning. It means that you have not become trained yet. When would you become trained? Now you are learning, but when would you become trained? Will you become trained in a training school or will you become trained in an ordinary school? Does one study first or does one get trained first? First one studies. Whether one studies basic knowledge or whether one pursues higher studies, and after studying, one undergoes training
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Post20 Sep 2007

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.703, Cassette No.1189, dated 18.06.07, at Anantpur mini-Madhubans

Clarification of Sakar Murli dated 17.10.67

Ref. No.VCD*.


... So, now you are learning. What? (You’re learning) that what is real Rajyog and what is the depth of Rajyog? Those sanyasis keep teaching the physical Yoga. They would teach the procedures of pranayam (breathing exercises); they would teach the Asanas (yogic postures) of body. That has been named Yoga. Well, actually they are the Yoga of body. By practicing physical Yoga, will the body become healthy or will the mind & intellect-like soul become healthy? (Someone said – The mind & intellect-like soul) Will the mind & intellect-like soul become healthy? The body would become healthy. Arey, suppose there is a wrestler. The wrestler does ‘sit-ups' (dand baithak); so, by doing ‘sit-ups' will the body become strong or will the soul become strong? (Someone said – the body will become) He becomes strong through the body, but how does his mind become? The intellect of the wrestlers becomes dull (tharr). So, the physical Yoga is different. The bodily beings teach physical Yoga and the spiritual Father teaches – the Yoga of souls.

How can the soul be made to concentrate? How can the mind and intellect be concentrated? If the mind comes under control, then the body would also come under control and wealth is earned through the body, so the wealth would also come under control. In order to bring the body, mind and wealth under control and to bring them under control for many births, only the Father comes and teaches Rajyog. Well, if one wishes one could become a king of kings and if one wishes, one may not practice; one may not study The Knowledge that the Father teaches, and continue to become servant-maid servant, or continue to be part of the subject category (praja). There are also some such children, who learn, and in the process of learning, they again fall down. They go and fall flat on the ground. They fly very high. What? They fly very high in their flight of effort-making and while they are flying where do they fall? They fall flat on the ground. Just as someone falls flat on the ground, don’t they? Similarly they fall. So, what do they become? Arey, when they fall on the flat ground (pat), they become patraani (queen).

Maya is very difficult to overcome (dustar). Some become like salt water (loonpani) while quarrelling (khitkhit). Even two Sisters do not have a loveful relationship. They behave with each other like saltwater. You should not quarrel with each other. If you quarrel with outsiders, then Maya would not attack to that extent, but if there is an internal quarrel between one another, then Maya would attack strongly. There should not be any quarrel between one another. If there is a quarrel (khitkhit), then the Father says – what service would they do? They themselves do not know the lord/master (dhani). Those who do not belong to the dhani, will they give the introduction of the dhani Father? Who would give the introduction? Only those who would have become (the children) of the dhani, would make others (the children) of dhani.

The condition of very nice/good ones like the number one, the number two also becomes like this. What has been said? Does the condition of the numberone also become like this? Arey, who is number one and who is number two among the effortmakers? (Someone said – Brahma Baba) Is Brahma Baba number two? Brahma Baba would go and obtain the attainments/fruits (praarabdha) in the next birth. He does not obtain the fruits (praarabdha) in this birth. The one who is the number ‘one’, those who study here, would they receive the praarabdha here itself or would they receive it in the next birth? So, Brahma Baba is not included in that list at all. Among those who study knowledge and obtain the fruits (praarabdha) in this birth itself after studying The Knowledge, the number one is Prajapita and the number two is Jagdamba. She is the head of Chandravansh (moon dynasty) and Prajapita is the head of Suryavansh (Sun dynasty). In the group of Suryavanshis, Surya (Sun) is the chief and in the group of Chandravanshis, Chandrama (Moon) is the chief. So, the condition of the ones who are to become number two and number one also becomes like this. How? What does their condition become? Arey, just now it has been described. They start quarrelling with each other. They fight with each other and die. So, what would be the result? Would they be able to give the introduction of the Father? Will they be able to make others the children of the Lord (dhani)? They cannot make. Does it happen like this? Does it happen like this? Does it happen or does it not happen? It does happen. When did it happen? When does it happen? Did it happen or does it happen or would it happen in future? (Someone said – It has happened, and it would happen in future too) Yes, it has happened in the past too. When? (Someone said – In the beginning of the Yagya) Fight had taken place in the beginning of the Yagya too. There was a squabble/quarrel within.

So, the rosary has broken and the beads have got scattered (toot gayi hai mala, moti bikhar gaye) Baba used to prepare the rosary again and again and the rosary used to get scattered repeatedly. Why did it get scattered? It is because the main number one and number two beads which were present in the Brahmin family, they fought with each other and died, and even now the insiders would be left watching and the outsiders would walk away with the fruits. ‘Insiders’ means ‘Rudra mala’. Whose studies are going on now? Those belonging to the Rudramala are studying now. They are even now studying. So the insiders would stand watching and the outsiders, i.e. the vijaymala (rosary of victory), those who are following the basic knowledge, would walk away with the fruits. So, did they benefit or did they suffer loss? Their vijaymala would get ready and the Rudramala would keep wandering. Then later on, all those beads of the Rudramala, who would go on gaining victory over vices, would continue to get added to the Vijaymala.

If the rosary is prepared now, then it would be said – this is a defected rosary. What? Some are one-eyed, some are devoid of ears (boochey), some are blind (andhey), some are maimed (looley), some are lame (langdey). All are defected. Some do not have arms. They cannot cooperate at all. They would study The Knowledge completely. They would study The Knowledge regularly, they would study punctually, but as regards cooperation; the cooperation-like arms are missing. Some do not have legs. What? They cannot move ahead in making efforts. Leave alone the matter of running. Some are lame. If they are lame, they would walk a little by hopping/limping, but they cannot progress so much. That is why in the path of worship it is said about the Rudragan (the servants/guards of the abode of Shiv-Shankar atop Mt.Kailasa) – ‘Koi mukh-heen vipul mukhh kaahu’ (Some lack head and some have many heads). Some have many heads. There are six heads/faces. Shanmukh. What? Who had 6 faces? Kartikey (Son of Shankar & Parvati) and some are headless. They do not have complete face at all. The torso (dhad) keeps running without the head. Some are one-eyed (kaaney), some are devoid of ears, some are lame, and some are of some other type. All are defected
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Post21 Sep 2007

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.703, Cassette No.1189, dated 18.06.07, at Anantpur mini-Madhubans

Clarification of Sakar Murli dated 17.10.67

Ref. No.VCD*.,


... Now, if the rosary is prepared, it would be called a defected rosary. It would be said – they still have these vices. Are there vices in all the beads of Rudramala? (Someone said – ‘one’ does not have) ‘One’ does not have! Achcha, there are no vices in ‘one’. If vices do not remain in ‘one’, then vices would not remain in anyone. If ‘one’ becomes pure, then everyone would become pure. For whom would it be said ‘one’? Is it for Prajapita? Prajapita says – I do not remain in the front. I am the Father. I would keep the children ahead. I would keep the mothers ahead. The Father says – Is the mother guru in the front or are the children in the front? First the mother guru is ahead, and then the children are ahead, later on the Father.

So, it has been said – Baba keeps enabling service as per drama plan. It means that the beads of Rudramala do not do service themselves. Who makes them do service? BapDada enters into the children and makes them do service; how will the ones who themselves have defects, serve others? Some become egotistic – we have done so much service. We have convinced so many souls. Actually, those who are themselves defected do not convince anyone. Yes, they are courageous (himmatvaaley). What? Those who are kings since many births, those who are the souls which are to become kings, what is their main virtue? Their special virtue is courage. When children display courage, the Father helps. They have the sanskars of displaying courage since many births. Even here it is like this. Those children who display courage, BapDada enters into them and becomes helpful and makes the service successful.

So, as per the drama plan, it is Baba alone who makes one do service. He keeps giving direction. He says – lay siege on Delhi. What? From where would the sound emerge? From where should the maximum service take place? In which city? Delhi is the only capital in the world where people of all the religions have ruled. Communities of all the religions have received sustenance in the lap of Delhi and everyone has attacked Delhi. Everyone has gained victory over Delhi numberwise and enjoyed it. So, the Father also says to the children. What should you do? Lay siege on Delhi. How would you lay siege? On the one side of Delhi is – Uttar Pradesh, Ghaziabad district, and on the three sides is Haryana. So, should we go and get settled in Uttar Pradesh and Haryana? Arey! Will that be sufficient? (Someone said – the living Delhi) Yes, the siege of the non-living (Delhi) can be done later on. What should we do first? First we should lay siege on the living Delhi. Why? Why should you lay siege on her? It is because the reform of Delhi means the reform of the entire world. Transformation of Delhi causes the transformation of entire India. So, is Delhi spoilt/degraded? Is Delhi more spoilt/degraded? If unrighteousness is to be ended from India, then, by ending unrighteousness from which city first, the unrighteousness from the entire country would end? From Delhi.

Lay siege of Godly service on Delhi. This work is not to be done by only one. What? The work of laying siege; if one goes and sits there in Delhi and lays siege of mind, words and actions, then will the task be accomplished? Will it be? It will not. Arey, what is required for a powerful one? A powerful gathering is also required. So, it is not just one who has to do. You have to get together and take mutual consent. Everything should be under the direction of one. It should not be that everyone starts playing his own tune in order to lay siege on Delhi. Some attack at some time and some attack at some other time. Some attack from one place in one way; some others attack from another place. For example there are kings, are there not? If a country, if a capital is to be won, then what do they do? First they lay seige from all the four directions. So, will one succeed if one acts on the direction of one king, if the siege is laid on the direction of ‘one’, or will one succeed by doing it in their own way? If one does on the direction of one, then one would get success. One would do by asking. So, everything should happen on the direction of one. Baba is one, isn’t He? There are not two-four Babas. He will not work without helpers.

You open centers. Those who render help say – Yes, Baba. If the ones who render help are not there then they would not be able to do anything. Even at home, friends and relatives, etc. keep coming. Those who come may hurl abuses. Do they ever hurl abuses or not? They come home, defame, abuse. One must not fear them. Whom? There is no question of fearing all those friends and relatives, who come, abuse, defame. One would have to definitely tolerate abuses. Why? When we are not doing anything wrong, why would we tolerate abuses? Why must we tolerate? What is the compulsion? Arey, there must be some reason. Arey, in the past birth, we had only become kings, had we not? We were in the royal family, were we not? So, all the members of the royal family, or the kings and queens, they remain so egotistic in the Copper and Iron Age. So, whatever sins we have committed with whomever; the kings did not used to listen to anyone and the children of the royal family also used to be very obstinate. They did not used to listen to anyone. Even if anyone tells the right thing, they would have their own way; they would not listen to them. Now it would be the opposite, would it not? Now we are doing the good. They do not understand. They would clear the karmic accounts with us or not? So, we would certainly have to tolerate abuses.

Now you are as if in a village of monkeys. What? Where are the monkeys? What is the name of the village where there are more monkeys? (Someone said – Machilipatnam) Yes, you are in a village of monkeys. Those monkeys will keep biting you. What? You may perform the best tasks to whatever extent till the end. Those monkeys would keep biting you. Why? There must be some karmic account, isn’t it? They would keep biting you. Those with a monkey-like intellect keep biting each other, don’t they? So, you children must have unanimous opinion in every matter. There is not going to be any benefit if one has a different opinion, second one has another opinion, third one has a different opinion, and if everyone acts according to his own opinion.

Even if they open centers, everyone should get together and open.What? It should not be like this that why should we help when he has given the place? Arey! The one who had place gave place. The one who has money can make arrangements for the construction. The one who has neither money nor place but is an educated good engineer, he can help (as well). Someone is neither an engineer nor does he have place; neither does he have money, nor is he educated, then he could do labour. He could render cooperation by labouring in construction of the house. So the center should open with everyone’s help. It is not like this that only one person should bear all the expenses. Then what would happen? What would be its result? [someone said something] No! He would solely sit as an invincible emperor [i.e. nobody can confront him]. In his satopradhan stage he would open the center, then, when he would become degraded, he would control everything and sit; that is why center should not be opened with the help of one person. Everyone should become helpful in one’s own way. Everyone should open a center collectively. They should write – Baba, we are performing all these tasks with the opinion of the Brahmani. In the Sindhi language it is said – Batt baarah [one and two makes twelve; strength increases with unity]. Then, the service would be even better. Very good opinion would emerge. At some places, people do not take each other’s opinion. There are also such ones. Only one (Sister) keeps giving her opinion. The rest of them keep fighting/quarreling with each other.

Achcha, can any task be performed by fighting like this? Baba would say – What can I do? What? If children keep quarreling, if they keep fighting, then they say – Baba, play some magic so that the fighting stops. Baba says – What can I do? There is no purity in you; the unity is not formed, then, would Baba increase the unity and purity of each one? Who has to make efforts? Everyone has to make individual efforts to become pure. What would Baba do in this? Until there is no fraternity between you, until there is no unity between you, how can you accomplish such a big task? It means that you cannot accomplish. It means, on what does the entire matter depend? The Sangathan (fraternity/ unity). Sangathan means unity would be formed only when the monkey-like nature would end, when purity comes.

There are small shops and there are also big shops, are there not? They form a alliance/fraternity with each other. Nobody says – Baba, help us. People open shops, don’t they? They open small shops, they open big shops. Some big shopkeepers unite and open a big complex, so do they tell God – help us. They make efforts themselves. That way, everyone would go on opening centers, and say – Baba help us. First they should make helpers. Then Baba says – if the children show courage, the Father would help. First make them your helpers. Baba, we would do this much, and for the rest, you help us. It should not be like this that, first you help us, then we would do it collectively. No. If man shows courage, God helps. They do not understand its meaning too. First, the children should show courage. Who all help to what extent? If they do not help, there would not be any success. Omshanti.
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Post26 Sep 2007

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VCD* No.713, Cassette No.1199, dated 08.07.07, at Bombay

Clarification of Sakar Murli dated 30.10.67

Ref. No.VCD*.


Omshanti. Vani dated 30th October, 1967 narrated in the morning class. The record played is – mujhko sahara deney vaaley... (You! who give me support) These words of thanks cannot emerge from the inside of the children for the Father-Teacher-Sadguru because children know that – this game/drama is predetermined. There is no need for thanks etc. in this at all. Call it a game or a drama. Everyone plays his/her role. The children also know that – the words ‘as per drama’ come in the intellect of you children. These matters do not come in the intellect of anyone else at all. Just by uttering ‘drama’, the entire drama of 5000 years comes in your intellect. It is as if you yourself become swadarshan chakradhari (one who realizes the true form of the self and rotates The Cycle of 84 births of the self in his mind) and all the three abodes also come in your intellect. The Soul World (mool vatan), the Subtle Region (sookshma vatan) and the corporeal world (sthool vatan). You also know – now the drama is about to finish. The Father comes and makes you children trikaaldarshi (the one who knows the three aspects of time); He does not make anyone else. He explains the secrets of all the three aspects of time, all the Three Worlds, the beginning, middle and end. Time is called Kaal. All these matters cannot fit into the intellect without noting down. You children forget many points. The matters do not come to the mind on time and you know the duration of the drama because you yourselves have passed through The Cycle of 5000 years. You are the allround actor; that is why you alone become trinetri (three eyed) and trikaaldarshi (knower of the three aspects of time).

You receive the third eye of knowledge and the biggest thing is that – when you get the third eye of knowledge, you get transformed from an atheist (naastik) to a theist (aastik). Otherwise, when you were atheists, you were orphans (nirdhan ke) and when you become theists, you become (the children) of God/the rich/the master (dhani ke). And only you children are receiving this knowledge. The churning of knowledge always goes on in the intellect of a student. You are also Godly students. This knowledge should always keep dripping (i.e. be abundant) in your intellect because this is also knowledge, isn’t it? And the highest on high Father gives you this knowledge. He gives it according to the drama. This word ‘drama’, also emerges from your mouth. That too, it emerges especially from the mouth of those who remain busy in Godly service and remain firm on the rails of drama.

Now you know that earlier we were orphans. Now we have found the master, the unlimited Father, so now we have become (the children) of God/the master/the rich (Dhani ke). Those people of the world are orphans in the limited sense. Before you were orphans in the unlimited sense. The unlimited Father is the giver of unlimited happiness. And there is no such Father in the 84 births, who gives you such happiness. What kind of pleasure? Supersensuous pleasures (ateendriy sukhh). It is also sung – if you wish to ask about supersensuous pleasures, ask the Gop-Gopies of Gopi Vallabh. And you would never get this supersensuous joy in the 84 births. When do you get it? You get it in the last moments of this Confluence Age.

Initially the children become violent in the world. They are made violent, vicious. By becoming vicious, they experience sorrows in the beginning, middle and end. They become sinful souls. Those who become noble/meritorious souls (punya aatma), do not use the dagger of sex-lust (kaam kataari) and the sinful souls use the dagger of sex-lust. It is in your intellect that - where the sinful souls (paap aatma) exist and where the noble/meritorious souls exist. The new world, the old world – all this is there in you children’s intellect. But you should explain these matters to others correctly and become engaged in this Godly occupation. That way, everyone has his/her circumstances. But only those people would be able to explain, who would be busy in the journey of remembrance because one gets power through remembrance, doesn’t one? The Father is a sharp sword (jauhardaar talwaar). So, by remaining in His remembrance power gets filled in you. The sharpness (jauhar) gets filled in you. Now you children have to fill yourself with sharpness. This is called the power of Yoga, isn’t it? There is power in this remembrance alone. You get the emperorship (baadshaahi) through the power of remembrance. No Hitler, Napoleon could ever become the master of the world through physical power (bahubal) and you become the master of the world through the power of Yoga (yogbal). (Can there be a comparison between) the power of Yoga (and the physical power!) Call it the power of Yoga, call it the power of love, or call it spiritual power. There is spiritual love, isn’t it? The spiritual love melts, changes the stone-like soul too.

So, you control the entire world through the power of Yoga. Even if we do not call it control, the entire world becomes controlled automatically. One is – to remain in control by oneself out of love, to remain in discipline and one is - to drag someone forcibly with the power of sword. There is a great difference. So, the Father tells the principle (siddhaant). Nobody can ever control the world through the physical power. They can control the weak souls. They can control the souls which become their subjects (praja) over many births. But they cannot control the entire world. Only the power of Yoga, the spiritual power has that much ability that – all the 500-700 crore souls of the entire world thank from their hearts. They bow. They get bound in the bond of love. They automatically bind themselves in the bond of love.

So, one gets power through Yoga, doesn’t one? Nobody else can ever give such power to anyone. What kind of power? The power of spiritual love. The spiritual power can be obtained only from the spiritual Father. It cannot be obtained from any human being because all are body conscious in this world. As one is, so he shall make (others). If one is body conscious, he would make others body conscious. If one is soul conscious, he would make others soul conscious. If one is a thief or dacoit, he would make others thieves or dacoits. If someone is prosperous, he would make others prosperous. Only the spiritual Father possesses the spiritual power. To whatever extent one gets coloured by His company, they get that power. The company is of many kinds. The company of intellect is also a company, but the attachment of the intellect develops when the intellect knows the attainments or if the intellect has experienced that – one gets this attainment from this person. The words that are uttered or spoken are forgotten. The experience is never forgotten
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Post27 Sep 2007

Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.713, Cassette No.1199, dated 08.07.07, at Bombay

Clarification of Sakar Murli dated 30.10.67

Ref. No.VCD*.,


... So, the Father comes and makes us experience. He makes us experience practically. It is said to be practical only when it is through the body. There is a difference of day and night (i.e. a world of difference) between the company of the Father and the company of the body conscious human beings. The very name of the Father is Shiv i.e. benevolent. (kalyaankaari). Whatever names are there are based on the bodies. The name of my bindi (point i.e. soul) is Shiv, but the colour of company is applied practically through the body. Those heretic religious fathers, who are unable to understand this secret, remain far away. They cannot experience the pleasures of heaven or the supersensuous joy (ateendriy sukhh). Or we may say that it is not predetermined/fixed in the drama. The supersensuous pleasure is a pleasure of the stage of being detached from the bodily organs. It is the pleasure of the soul. It is not like this, that – the supersensuous pleasure was experienced by the Gop-Gopies by departing from the body. Had the soul departed from the body, then, in the path of worship, it would not have been praised at all that – ‘If you wish to ask about supersensuous joy, ask the Gop-Gopies.” Actually, this is a matter of the souls which play an all round part of 84 (births), who have experienced supersensuous joy from the Father.

So, it must firmly fit in the intellect that – one gets spiritual power through Yoga, and not through knowledge. Knowledge only leads to the recognition/identification of the Father that - who is the spiritual Father? One also gets to realize the physical Father. 84 fathers in 84 births, but all those are in limited sense. The unlimited fathers are only two. One is the spiritual Father and the second is the physical Father of the 84 births, the Father of the mankind, the Father, who causes experience to all the 500-700 crore human beings in the form of living souls. People belonging to all the religions accept him. They accept him as Adam, Aadam. Muslims (would) also say – Deen-E-Elahi. Religion is called 'Deen'.

Children are explained – knowledge is the source of income. It is an income for many births. It is such an income for 21 births where you need not make efforts and you keep earning even more income. These gems of knowledge automatically keep becoming gross gems for many births. Yoga is called power. Here, to whatever extent one has imbibed the spiritual power, to whatever extent one would have filled one’s soul with power, it is as if the seed gets filled with power. Seed means soul. There are three stages of soul too. They are called – kaaran sharir (causal body), sookshma sharir (subtle body) and the sthool sharir (physical body). The more powerful the causal body is, the more powerful the subtle and physical bodies would go on becoming for many births. Now, if one fills spirituality in the soul through the remembrance of the spiritual Father, through the company of the Father, then one would be happy for many births.

The Father is called – Sat(truth)-Chit(living)-Anand(blissful). The power of truth (sachchaai) gets filled for many births. Nobody can challenge that truth. Although truth becomes incognito for some time, but ultimately truth speaks out with its head held high. Falsehood has to (accept) defeat. When the Father comes, the fight takes place between truth and falsehood. The Father is true (sachchaa) and Ravan is a liar (jhootha). Liar would make up stories (baatein banayega). He would enttrap (others) in guile and vile (chal-chidra) but the versions of the Father are the same internally and externally (andar-baahar ek). But for those, who adopt double standards with the Father or do not recognize the Father, even the Father remains different internally and externally. Ultimately, the whole world has to certainly change. It has to definitely become soul (conscious). When the entire world becomes soul (conscious) and returns to the abode of souls, then the Father would also appear to be the same inside and outside (andar-baahar ek). The entire world would recognize that Father. They would be numberwise in recognizing as well as in becoming soul (conscious). It is a confluence of falsehood and truth. This confluence takes place only at the end of the Iron Age and the beginning of the Golden Age. 100 percent confluence takes place only once in the 5000 years drama, when hundred percent untruth and hundred percent truth gets proved. Both Ram and Ravan are recognized. There is a difference of day and night (i.e. a world of difference) between untruth and truth.

Now think whether Yoga is better or knowledge is better? A learned/knowledgeable one (gyaani) may become egotistic. Ego causes ruination (satyaanaash) because knowledge comes only from one Father. The one, who becomes egotistic of being a learned/knowledgeable, forgets that – whatever knowledge we receive is from that one Father. Actually, this knowledge is not ours. The belonging of our soul is spirituality (ruhaaniyat). That too is received from the spiritual Father. While taking many births, the soul becomes body conscious. The soul that becomes body conscious remains far away from the Father. That is why the sages and sanyasis would grasp the Godly knowledge in the end. Those who are egoless, soon come close to the Father.

So, Yoga is famous (naami-giraami). Yoga does not mean hathyog (obstinate physical Yoga) Yoga means remembrance. Remembrance means love. The love is also not physical. It is (the love) that the spiritual Father has taught us – consider yourself to be a soul and remember me, the Father. Otherwise, one would not be able to remember the Father. The Father says – Your sins would get burnt/cut only through this remembrance. The Father lays stress only on this remembrance. One must check oneself every moment – which way is our remembrance inclined? Is it inclined towards the body and bodily relationships or towards the spiriual Father? Is it inclined towards the things related to the body or is it inclined towards (the attainments) that one gets from the spiritual Father. One gets spiritual knowledge from the spiritual Father. One gets knowledge, i.e. realization/introduction (pehchaan). When the realization becomes firm in the intellect, the intellect runs towards the Father. Knowledge is very easy. The Knowledge is also easy and those who have an easy nature and sanskars (resolves), those who have the easy nature and sanskars since many births, those who are simple-hearted (saral chitt), innocent (bholey-bhaaley), for them remembrance is very easy. Those who have the sanskars of guile and vile (chal-chidra), deceit since many births face great obstacles (adchan) in the remembrance of the Father. The remembrance is not easy. Then the remembrance is also found to be difficult
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Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.713, Cassette No.1199, dated 08.07.07, at Bombay

Clarification of Sakar Murli dated 30.10.67

Ref. No.VCD*.,


... Actually, remembrance is not difficult. Easy remembrance is made difficult by one's own weakness. God says - I narrate easy knowledge to you. Then why do (people) say that - it is very difficult, it is very deep? It has also been written in Gita - Guhyaat guhyataram gyaanam. I explain the deepest secrets. God has also been made to sit in a cave saying that - The Father, the giver of knowledge is Himself sitting inside the cave. Actually, it is a matter about being simple-hearted (saralchitt). Human beings, human gurus have accepted this matter. Even in the scripture Gita it has been written - O Arjun! Become a plain paper. Whatever you have understood, heard, read in a worldly manner, you forget all that. Listen to me.

All the effort-makers should first become simple-hearted in front of God. Will the one who is simple-hearted give his true potamail or would he give an edited/abridged version? He would give a true potamail. He would open his heart out. He would not hide anything. So, it has been written in the scriptures. All the matters have been written in the scriptures of the path of worship. 'Nirmal man so hi jan mohi paavaa. Mohi chal, chidra, kapat nahi bhaavaa." Guile and vile (chal-chidra), deceit - this is a game of Ravan. For example a leech; even if the water is still, it moves in a crooked way. Similarly, when the Father, who is an ocean of knowledge, comes in this world, and the Chariot in which He comes, is simple and ordinary, but the souls, which act like leeches, consider him also to be crooked.

The Father has shown the way - you do not see him. Whom should you observe/see? Observe the Father. Even if he commits some mistake, the Father is sitting to correct it. You realize/identify only the spiritual Father. Both are Fathers, and both are unlimited fathers. One is the spiritual Father and the second one is the physical Father in unlimited sense. One has been named in the scriptures as Prajapati. Baba has coined the name 'Prajapita' and the second is 'Parampita' (Supreme Father). The Father of even Prajapita. He is the one who plays the part of the husband of husbands and Father of fathers. So, one must catch hold of the highest on high, shouldn't one? Why should the intellect be directed towards the physical Father? Had that soul been the benefactor/benevolent, it could have caused benefit also in the 63 births of Copper Age and Iron Age. Did he cause benefit? Did the benefit of the world take place? Did that soul not cause benefit? It did cause benefit, but in its own way. There was no realization/recognition of the Father. It caused benefit (based) on the opinion of its own kind. So, there is no question of achieving success at all.

There are only two righteous souls in this world stage - Ram and Krishna, but even they get entagled in duality from the Copper Age. They become influenced by Ravan. That is why they cannot cause the benefit of the world. Benefit is caused through those souls only when I enter in them. Even they are numberwise. One is number one and the second is number two. Allah comes and establishes the Allah Avval Deen (the number one religion) through the number one. Only you children know that numberone religion. Nobody else can even know about it. The true history and geography fits into your intellect. Everything is included in this history and geography.

So, both knowledge and Yoga are a second's task. You can give the introduction of the Father to anyone in a second. But if you give while being immersed in the love of the Father, then it would fit in the intellect. One must remember the Father; that is all. One must turn oneself (sultaa) and remember the Father. If you remember the Father while being upside down (ultaa), then instead of reaping benefit you would keep suffering loss/damage. What is ultaa and what is sultaa? Ultaa is body consciousness and sultaa is soul consciousness. That is why (He) repeatedly says - consider yourself to be a soul and remember the Father. We souls have to remember the Father, the Supreme Father Supreme Soul.

Why is He called the Supreme Father Supreme Soul? Why is He not called Supreme Soul Supreme Father? Supreme Father itself means - the one who plays the supreme part among all the fathers, who does not have any Father in an incorporeal stage. He never becomes corporeal at all and when He becomes corporeal, He becomes so by entering the Supreme Soul. The Supreme Father cannot be compared to any soul because He does not enter The Cycle of birth and death at all. He cannot be compared even with the soul, which plays the supreme part, the hero actor, the main actor among the souls which enter The Cycle of birth and death. He is unique (turiya). The hero actor among the souls that come in The Cycle of birth and death is compared with the souls which come in The Cycle of birth and death. That is why he is called the Supreme Soul. Even in the Murli it is said again and again to remind - Paramatma means Param Atma (Supreme Soul). It means the soul playing the supreme part. It is a matter of many births
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