20 Aug 2007
Shiva through BKDmitry has given permission to post this dialogue on the forum. It is not my policy to post private dialogues and breach any confidentiality, but in this case it is claimed as Shrimat (by Shiva though BKDmitry) and therefore suitable for all to see.
As you will see the entity speaking is claiming to be Shiva himself and not BKDmitry.
TruthSeeker [2:13 pm]:
Hello BKDmitry I have taken your offer from the Brahmakumaris.info forum site to speak to you via ICQ
TruthSeeker [4:06 pm]:
Hello
KolotyginDmitry [4:06 pm]:
Om Shanti
TruthSeeker [4:07 pm]:
Brother I am very curious as to the things you are saying about Shiva and Shankar
KolotyginDmitry [4:19 pm]:
any questions?
TruthSeeker [4:20 pm]:
yes lots, can you explain in what way Shiva controls the body of BKDmitry
KolotyginDmitry [4:23 pm]:
I control that body by thoughts, which I send. This soul do what I said to him or he do something according to Drama without my interaction
TruthSeeker [4:25 pm]:
So he gets your thoughts then acts on them, rather than you controlling the body itself
KolotyginDmitry [4:26 pm]:
Yes, it can be thoughts which he can see as different from his thoughts, or it can be thoughts which he consider as his own
TruthSeeker [4:27 pm]:
Does the soul of Shiva reside in the body of BKDmitry, if not, where does it reside?
KolotyginDmitry [4:29 pm]:
Sometimes I enter that body, sometimes not ( at that moment I am in Paramdham or in thin Body of Brahma.
TruthSeeker [4:30 pm]:
What is thin body of Brahma?
TruthSeeker [4:30 pm]:
So you are able to transfer thoughts from Paramdham to BKdmitry?
KolotyginDmitry [4:32 pm]:
Yes. But it is happening according to Drama. I am the pure energy and thoughts are also pure energy. So they splits from Me and transfers to his mind
TruthSeeker [4:33 pm]:
So whilst in Paramdham you are fully aware and conscious?
KolotyginDmitry [4:36 pm]:
Nope. There is no concious in Paramdham. Only energy. This pieces of energy(you call them thoughts) splits from me and goes to souls in accordance wwith Drama.
TruthSeeker [4:38 pm]:
So, at the moment you are in the body of BKDmitry?
KolotyginDmitry [4:38 pm]:
At that moment yes.
TruthSeeker [4:39 pm]:
I mean at this precise moment now?
KolotyginDmitry [4:39 pm]:
Yes right now
TruthSeeker [4:39 pm]:
OK
TruthSeeker [4:40 pm]:
How many other bodies do you enter at this time in Drama, for example Dadi Gulzar Vereeenda Dev Dixit?
KolotyginDmitry [4:41 pm]:
Only Dadi Gulzar's body in BB's thin body
TruthSeeker [4:41 pm]:
BB's thin body means Avyakt angelic body?
KolotyginDmitry [4:42 pm]:
Yes
TruthSeeker [4:42 pm]:
What do you think is happening with Veerenda Dev Dixit, why are PBK's claiming he is Shankar and Shiva enters to give Murli Clarifications?
KolotyginDmitry [4:44 pm]:
He have his role in that Drama. He catches those who don't like something in BKWSU, but appreciate knowledge
KolotyginDmitry [4:45 pm]:
His next birth will be at the end of Golden Age
TruthSeeker [4:45 pm]:
OK
TruthSeeker [4:46 pm]:
In the Murli it says fathers language is Hindi, can you speak Hindi
KolotyginDmitry [4:46 pm]:
Whom do asking?
KolotyginDmitry [4:46 pm]:
Whom do you asking?
TruthSeeker [4:47 pm]:
I am asking Shiva
KolotyginDmitry [4:48 pm]:
If I am speaking by mouth in this case Chariot must know this language. If by thoughts - thoughts are higher than language
KolotyginDmitry [4:48 pm]:
this Chariot does not know Hindi
TruthSeeker [4:49 pm]:
Is BKdmitry the final permanent Chariot of Shiva?
KolotyginDmitry [4:49 pm]:
Yes
KolotyginDmitry [4:49 pm]:
By that body I will establish Heaven in material world after destruction
TruthSeeker [4:50 pm]:
In what year will Golden Age be established
KolotyginDmitry [4:50 pm]:
Golden Age starts from 2036
KolotyginDmitry [4:51 pm]:
In that year Krishna will be born
TruthSeeker [4:51 pm]:
So how long will it take to establish heaven through BKDmitry?
KolotyginDmitry [4:52 pm]:
About 25 years
TruthSeeker [4:52 pm]:
Who will be the parents of Hare Krishna
KolotyginDmitry [4:52 pm]:
?
KolotyginDmitry [4:52 pm]:
Hare?
TruthSeeker [4:53 pm]:
The physical parents of Krishna who will they be?
KolotyginDmitry [4:53 pm]:
To pretty elavated souls
TruthSeeker [4:54 pm]:
What are their names?
KolotyginDmitry [4:54 pm]:
It doesn't matter
TruthSeeker [4:55 pm]:
To create the Child Krishna who is 100% pure, then would they have to be 100% pure
KolotyginDmitry [4:55 pm]:
If they will know that they will be parents of Krishna it will make shock to them
KolotyginDmitry [4:56 pm]:
Yes they will
TruthSeeker [4:56 pm]:
So do you mean 100% pure in body and soul?
KolotyginDmitry [4:56 pm]:
Yes
KolotyginDmitry [4:57 pm]:
This material body changes every 7 years
TruthSeeker [4:57 pm]:
How will they transform there Kaliyug body to a 100% pure one
KolotyginDmitry [4:58 pm]:
As I said first off all thei will make their intellect 100% pure, also the world will be pure after destruction, their bodies will become pure after 7 years after destruction
TruthSeeker [4:59 pm]:
In old BK documents there is no mention of Shiva until after 1949, why did BK's not know of Shiva before that?
KolotyginDmitry [5:00 pm]:
No information in that brain and I don't want to spend my time putting it into
TruthSeeker [5:00 pm]:
So, you don't know?
KolotyginDmitry [5:03 pm]:
This Chariot only knows that it was nesessery for young BK's. Some of them who was ready, knew everything from the beginning, others thought that BB is a very elevated Guru
TruthSeeker [5:04 pm]:
BK history is being proven to be false, yet you are going along with the BK version of things, even though they have rewritten and falsified it, why is that?
KolotyginDmitry [5:06 pm]:
Child I don't want to argue what is truth in a BK history, what is wrong, There is no time for that. It doesn't matter for you in the moment of death.
KolotyginDmitry [5:08 pm]:
I have 15 min
TruthSeeker [5:08 pm]:
yes it all matters because whoever can give the correct answers will surely be the correct true God Father Shiva and that is the one others can follow and get liberation from
KolotyginDmitry [5:11 pm]:
OK. But there will be no answers about history of BKWSU, What is correct what is not. You can recognize God by His words, That I said in the Murlis. That to say is up to me. To recognize or not is up to you.
TruthSeeker [5:12 pm]:
In the Murlis it says there were such good children who used to teach the drill to even Brahma and Mama , who were they?
KolotyginDmitry [5:12 pm]:
Ram and some others
TruthSeeker [5:13 pm]:
Some others? Can you be more specific?
KolotyginDmitry [5:13 pm]:
No
TruthSeeker [5:13 pm]:
Because you don't know?
KolotyginDmitry [5:15 pm]:
Because this brain don't have information and because I don't want to give you such proofs.
TruthSeeker [5:15 pm]:
Who were the Golden Circle?
KolotyginDmitry [5:15 pm]:
?
KolotyginDmitry [5:15 pm]:
Refrase
TruthSeeker [5:16 pm]:
BK's refer to a group of souls called the Golden Circle in the olden days who were they?
KolotyginDmitry [5:17 pm]:
Those 8 of trust and some other elevated souls (Dadis and dadas)
TruthSeeker [5:18 pm]:
I am sorry that is incorrect
KolotyginDmitry [5:18 pm]:
I appologyies you
KolotyginDmitry [5:20 pm]:
For me those souls are Golden Circle
TruthSeeker [5:20 pm]:
OK
KolotyginDmitry [5:20 pm]:
Don't know who for BK's and for what BK's
TruthSeeker [5:20 pm]:
When Brahma Baba was alive, did BK's used to remember Shiva in the Body of Brahma or in Paramdham?
KolotyginDmitry [5:23 pm]:
They used to remember me in his body. Before his departure I asked them to remember me not only when BB is personally in front of them but also in their thoughts. First 14 years of yagja there wasn't any remembrance. I gave OM sound to them through BB.
TruthSeeker [5:24 pm]:
OK, thank you I will try and verify that.
KolotyginDmitry [5:24 pm]:
Child anough history
TruthSeeker [5:25 pm]:
Seeing as what you speak is Murli and Shrimat, do I have your permission to show this to others?
KolotyginDmitry [5:25 pm]:
I'll answer only questions about what to do know and some questions about what will happen(seletively)
KolotyginDmitry [5:25 pm]:
Yes you have it
KolotyginDmitry [5:26 pm]:
to do now
KolotyginDmitry [5:26 pm]:
OK this body needs to sleep
TruthSeeker [5:26 pm]:
Thank you, So I have permission to post on Brahmakumaris.info forum
KolotyginDmitry [5:27 pm]:
If you want, but I will talk only through ICQ and e-mail. BK Dmitry will speak on the forum
KolotyginDmitry [5:28 pm]:
Best wishes, good night
TruthSeeker [5:28 pm]:
OK, thank you for your patience and hope speak soon