yudhishtira wrote: its an audio cd, sorry for the confusion, with translation by Manda bhen.
I got that on my last visit to Madubhan. It was nice to finally here to voice of BB, not that I understood most of what he said. Other than hearing his voice finally, it was a very simple Sakar Murli. It has been a few years, the only thing I remember from the CD was Manda bhen saying several times about, "this one is not God, he is the one talking, do the Children think he is God, he is the Chariot, etc ..."
yudhishtira wrote:Currently I am focussing on changing all my belief systems which are negative and limiting to unlimited and empowering. You can call that "baby-ish" if you like ...
I call that brainwashing. Quite nice actually. Problem is with a good brainwash, rational judgment gets washed away in the rinse cycle. Assuming there was any there in the first place. I am actually going through a thorough brainwashing myself as of late. Trying to wash the animal-human social conditioning out of me and put in some new empirical spiritual beliefs.
yudhishtira wrote:I'd like to challenge you here. Its easy for you to say that most Brahmins are stupid and misled because that supports your theories, but doesn't that sound to you like the Seniors who say you guys are full of Maya and misled in order to continue to support theirs? Having escaped one load of **** from the controlling instruments, have I let myself in for more with the controlling ex-BKs?
Ooh, a challenge. What exactly is the challenge here? Are you challenging us to dispute that calling BKs stupid is different from Seniors calling ex-BKs full of Maya? It's very different. Just look up the difference between stupid and evil in the dictionary.
In regards to controlling and not controlling, this is a lesson not found easily in Gyan but it is there. Baba has said if you don't want to do what the Seniors say, don't ask. Remain a trustee. Of course it’s not as simple as that. There comes a point in BK development where it seems the only way to advance further is to totally surrender. But making good money as a trustee and giving it all the Baba's Box is also great service. LOL! Just follow the Maryadas, stay in constant Yoga, and you can still be one of the 8.
Outside of Gyan its just a matter of how you deal with your, and other people’s, controlling issues. People will always want to control and be controlled. Some therapists call this the roles of victim and caretaker (the co-dependent triangle is caretaker-pursuer-victim and then back to caretaker). Even the control freak/caretaker is dependent on the victim to follow orders or the control freak looses their rush. The only way out of this vortex is to move from dependent to independent and then into interdependence.