30 Oct 2013
HI Vince
Although I am just a regular contributor to posts here and not involved in running this site I will take the liberty to reply from my point of view.
Maybe you should have written this in the relevant topic heading and not started a new topic.
The issues with Reach were pretty well resolved, all sides learnt a lot and have moved on (well, as far as I know). Starting this discussion in a new topic implies continued controversy or enmity which is not actually there.
The previous topic is still on this site. Unlike the BKs, history is what it is, not something editable for PR purposes. The thread can be read as a ”history”, an example, of the type of issues, confusion and interference that associating with the BKWSU creates, or any other group that is actually different to its public face.
It also illustrates the type of issues that arise for this site, the time taken and the efforts made to disentagle the truth from the beliefs as it alerts people, who’ve often gotten involved unwittingly, via the various fronts, aliases and tactics that the BKs use to propagate and perpetuate themselves.
By having such a topic still available to read, anyone who goes to any therapy or group will at least have awareness of the ”potential” for it to be a front for a particular doctrine or ideology. many groups and religions have done this over the decades (centuries!), sometimes themselves confused as to what is proselytising and what is charity or compassion.
I haven't looked at the discussion for a long time, maybe it needs a final post showing the resolutions that occurred so people like yourself do not feel the need to ”defend"?
The issues included the very BK-like language and imagery, links to some BK sites and what appeared to be endorsements of their people and approach, but this was denied, said to be mere information, not endorsement.
I think Reach did review their web site and remove direct links to BKs and other similar things that they could not guarantee directly.
The imagery and ideas are not unique to the BKs (although the BKs claim ownership as originators of all of them - a claim this site exists to debunk) but it is this interface of ”universals” with their peculiar doctrines that allows the BKs to trade as if they were just another well-wishing new-age positive-thinking type group. What they actually are, and their MO, you’ll find revealed throughout this site.
I looked at Reach site again just now. Much of the imagery still remains but again, no-one owns a lotus or what it symbolises (although a history could be traced). Circles divided in quadrants is as good a graphic as any to depict consciousness - or almost any subject that has different facets…. done by so many people just with different terminology inserted.
One of the things written on Reach's site is ‘Mistakes are your most valuable tutors” . For most of us here, involvement in the BKs was a most valuable tutor. We let others know about it so they may save ”tutoring expenses” where possible.
Glad to hear Reach have been beneficial to you .
[*I have no objection if Admin wants to move this post]