Re: Hi - I am a newcomer and want help with my relationship
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Hey Paul, thanks for your kind words. And thanks to Sukhi for sharing and creating a wonderful thread.
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Independent thought about the Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University for those wishing to leave, and friends and family of followers
http://brahmakumaris.info/forum/
paulkershaw wrote:Posts like this should be compiled into book form called "The Life of an ex-Yogi" and it will be a besteller.
ex-l wrote:could I trademark even ... "Autobiography of an ex-Yogi"? Damn ... did I just put that out into the ether and give it all away?
"Autobiography of an ex-Yogi"
master_creator wrote:Om Shanti.
Dear Sukhi,
How are you? Hope you are fine and enjoying life under Baba's canopy of protection.
I read your forum topic and wanted to share my view of things. I am not going to tell you what to do - whether to go for it or not as - I do not want to bind myself in any karmic account however I will advise you the way I would have advised my own sister if she was in such a situation.
Come back! Where are you going? did not you read all the responses to you on the forum topic - cannot you understand that they are not following Baba's Shrimat? The things that some of them have spoken about are so lokik and Shudra type. Don't go by their stories. Each soul has a part to play in this drama. You have your own part to play - I can think that let it happen to Sukhi whatever has to happen ... whatever has to happen will happen but even Baba doesn't stop inspiring children to make effort. Even he keeps trying inspite of knowing that the drama is pre-destined. In the same way I want to try and save you from this. Again let me remind you I am writing this keeping in mind that you are my own Sister.
Baba loves all His children - but the main thing in this last birth is to become pure. You are saying that you can do what you want and still continue to do meditation or remember Baba? Let me tell you, if you still continue to indulge in what you are indulging then you won't be able to remember Baba - slowly the connection will break with Baba and even though you sit in meditation you cannot remember Him as deep down you too know this that you cannot face Baba after indulging into the vice.
You won't even realise when the connection will break and then it would be too late ... when you are disillusioned. How much ever one tries to remember Him one cannot have that quality remembrance once they indulge in vice. You can say now that you will be able to remember Him but let me tell you that its very very difficult to get back that connection that you now have with Sweet Baba. To receive Baba's help we have to follow His Shrimat.
In this last birth the mandate given to all of us is that we have to remain pure. 63 births we were impure and now just one last birth God is asking us to remain pure - can we not do this for Him for just one birth? Whatever He is asking He is doing so for your future happiness of 21 births. But from what I read you are looking for temporary happiness of one birth.
Yes, we all have those desires and vice within us as it is an accumulated sanskar of 63 births. The main thing is that we have to transform that vice - for eg. transform lust into pure love. But you said even in Gyan you were actually supressing those feelings ... you do not have to supress ... but sublime or transform those into pure love.
See try and understand how it works - not everyone will be coming to the Golden Age and even if there are some who are going to come not all will get a high status. God is creating a pure world and for that He needs pure souls. Out of the billions of the souls only 9 lakh come at the beginning of the Golden Age. When do you want to come in The Cycle ... will be decided by you now and based on the effort one makes, they receive the status there ... low effort low status and high effort high status ... and remember its for every cycle.
Why ruin your status for every cycle? Now coming to practical suggestions, try and bring this Brother (your husband) to the centre and make him understand. Take someone's help - you can also seek your best friend's help. Tell him firmly if you have decided to follow Shrimat and if that means taking extreme steps do it. It might cause you some pain now ... but just do it ... you will not repent in future ... trust me ... The moment you wake up its the morning for you ... at least from now on be pure and walk on Baba's path fully.
Don't go by what these people say. After writing all this - I wish to highlight that the ultimate choice will be only yours and only you will be responsible for the actions that you decide to take. If its in your part that you have to come again and become pure you will and if it is otherwise, it will happen ... my part is only to show you the way where you are going ... you might not like me for giving you this advise ... but then I am doing my part as I feel its my duty to open your eyes and make you realise that where you are going ... you might not agree with what you have said b'because Maya is very very smart and royal and will make you even hate me for this advise.
See what you feel about it and then decide ... sometimes in such situation Maya breaks all positive connections and even if there are positive connections it makes us see only the negative connections ... the people whom you are calling your "wonderful friends" actually they are your "enemies" for advising you wrong things ... I am just hoping that it should not be 'too late' by the time you realise this fact as then there will be only repentence and nothing else left and I am afraid to tell this but you won't be able to do anything about it. Human being can never liberate other human beings only God can liberate us and for that one has to follow His Shrimat.
All the best Sukhi ... lastly, Sukhi please do not make yourself Dukhi by indulging into vice!
Your Brother,
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the people whom you are calling your "wonderful friends" actually they are your "enemies" for advising you wrong things
Dear Sukhi,
How are you? Are you still a virgin? If you are then God really loves you. If you are not then I truly hope you are already wracked in the agony of eternal guilt. And although God loves everyone, he doesn’t love the shudras, because well they are shudras and he’s got to have some standards. He really would like to love them but you see really they need to be hated. That’s where I come in. God doesn’t hate – he might tell them to kill themselves and point out to them that they are worse than animals etc and do stuff that if anyone else did it we would have to say it was hate, but as he is God it can’t be hate. Hopefully your intellect isn’t so locked that you don’t understand. Of course, any disagreement with anything I say just means that its all too late and you are beyond saving.
Let’s face it: you have been hanging round some really bad souls and you’re kind of dripping in their parmat. If you really have gone too far and your intellect is locked then you really need to start considering how you have just ruined all your lives forever. Every cycle – wow you are bad. Just think all those cycles – you just ruined them all. You are sooooo sooooo baaaaaad! You need to feel it, bring all the guilt up, come on, you’re not trying hard enough.
I am not bad, I am good. And because I am so good I get to look down on all those dirty nasty shudras. Like you, sorry, no offence. I mean, its just karma isn’t it? It must be my karma to be an emperor and yours to be one of my subjects. Don’t worry you’ll feel alright in your trailor park, your intellect would be dazzled by my spirituality if we let you into the palace, so its really for your own good that you be down the other end of the Golden Age. It is amazing how we are all souls so we can say spiritual things about everyone, but really because we are all different I can and should secretly look down on everyone else. All I really have to do is love God and hate them and I reckon I’ll be at least in the 108.
Actually I’ve thought about it and I’m being too humble. I’m going to be in the eight. I am going to have a massive palace and seriously high status. All that gold will prove how spiritual I must really be.
I seriously doubt there’s any chance for you but if I send you this message I can probably bag you as another subject. Don’t let the really really impure ones see it, as they’ll just use it to make me look like a complete idiot. Isnt it funny how the shudras sometimes think they are better than us. Well lets just let them wait until the world starts ending. It will be any day now, Dadi told me.
The shudras really need people like Dadi and me otherwise they’ll just go on for ever mistakenly thinking they are happy, when really they need me to persuade them that they are not and really we are all better off when the world ends. I can’t wait for the bombs to start falling. God’s love will be everywhere – well not everywhere, in me I mean. All the others will be in agony. At least they will when I take their dying moments to teach them about karma.
Baba loves all his children – except for the ones he doesn’t love. The ones who for some reason do not realize that seeking high status in the Golden Age is actually very virtuous and not at all egotism gone mad. Just remember love is not to be wasted on humans – they are much to impure. Just love God, and me of course, and the Dadis.
Finally, I want to emphasize that I am not seeking to influence you in any way and any images of eternal damnation I may have inadvertently mentioned to you are only to help you feel extreme pain even just at the idea of making up your own mind. I want you to come to your own decision as long as you completely agree with me, and promise to suffer every miserable second of your dirty impure meaningless existence if you do not agree that I basically am perfect and know everything.
I trust that we will meet either in service, or perhaps during destruction: but unfortunately probably not in the Golden Age.
With Love, Purity, Light, Egolessness, Incredible Humility and all the other attributes of a Satyug Deity, Your Brother and Future Emperor
Master Creator.