Andrey wrote:No, no ... Avyakt BapDaa comes like a ghost in Dadi Gulzar.
Actually, in this case, I agree with Andrey and other have commented the same, e.g. proy, on seeing Brahma enter Gulzar. I am pretty sure it is only the spook of Lekhraj Kirpalani that enters Gulzar and, given the new revellation arising from "Om Radhe's" writing, I am pretty well convinced that the entire "descent of Shiva in 1936", as told by the Brahmakumaris ... is a fabrication. Andrey is a PBK now, if you have question about what the PBKs teach, please go and speak to them in their own forum or read up on what has been discussed in the past.
dilarama, for a minute I thought you were serious and the Brahmakumaris were finally responding seriously to the matters that are being raised by the members of this forum.Now, I think that you are just an "intoxication junkie" who getting nervous because someone is coming along that threatens to take away you and your friends' United Nations affiliated Yoga drug. Like andrey is saying, the temporary BK fruit, or BK Maya. Sorry friend, the first step here - in "Brahma Kumaris Anonymous" - is cold, hard turkey.
If you look at all that has been said on this forum and all you can see are complaints ... forget it. Take a hike. In fact, if I were you, I would start running for the lifeboats because what you see here is only the tip of an iceberg that the BKWSU Titantic is headed straight for. And it is not about me, or any one individual on this forum; it is about Karma, the Karma the Brahmakumaris have been neatly stacking up against themselves.
"Cant everybody just be happy and get along because Dada Nirwair says so ...!?!"
Sorry mate, NO HUMAN GURUS HERE. John, andrey, arjuna, bansy, proy, di, janisder, primal.logic, sparkal ... the whole lot of them (and apologies for not name each one) you know who they are? They are the plumbers come to fix your beloved organization's blocked sewers. The doctors come to massage its blocked up lymphs and perform a bypass operation.
Yes, you go off and play with the wonderful expensive toys the Dadis have bought for you; in the meanwhile we will get on with digging out the blocked up **** out of the pipes that is poisoning the Yagya and by effect humanity.
ex-l wrote:Just out of interest, do you know about the little Indian girls that are sold into the Yagya for 3 years living expenses or whose dowries are signed over to the Brahmakumaris, just to make sure that they do not run off or go back home to their families? Does that sound right, ethical .. or has it in anyway been confirmed by the Murlis?
I wonder what the United Nations would make of that. It sounds a bit like slavery too me. Human trafficking. Do you know why they do it?
I suggest that you start by;
a) demanding back access to the OLDEST AND ORIGINAL Murlis and read them again. Note down every bit of Shrimat that they contain, especially the Maryadas.
b) where the behavior of the current leadership contravenes those Maryadas, ask for a statement from BapDada to confirm that it was according to his intructions and an explaination of why. Not a statement from the leadership.
c) compare them and the most recent version to check for re-writing.
d) start documenting the real history of the Yagya starting with the physical birth date of Lekhraj Kirpalani, especially the period around 1935/36 (Hyderabad) and during World War II (Karachi), including the other mediums of Shiva of that time (and I am not taking a PBK line here, a BK line will do). Skip anything post 1976, it really is not important right now. It is just part of the distraction.
Find out what archives Madhuban still holds ... AND COPY AND TRANSLATE THEM BEFORE SOMEONE DESTROYS THE RECORDS.
Is that fair enough? Is that an ungoldy complaint? Does that seem non-BK?
Trust me, you/we have been conned and been taught to con others in the name of the BKWSU. We are not the anti-party. There are more of the anti-party sitting in positions of power wearing white right now. We just the ones who are refusing to go along with it any more.
Public notice to John, as other will be interested in it ...
I have just seriously started to wonder if all those Murlis and papers that were allegedly buried were not buried for their safety but for the safety of the leadership that wanted to hide what they contained. Perhaps they, and the truths they contained, were not physically buried but metaphorically buried as well.