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When I first started out, I was told that each BK was on the last birth, i.e the 84th, as this is often mentioned in the Murlis. So hence one had to make effort during this last birth. At that time, you were reborn when you took Gyan, so during this physical life, your spiritual life and thus your 84th birth had come to you. This seemed simple Gyan to understand and so many if us put lots of hard work and service and study since this was your last chance.
However, later, I discovered, as others did, there have been BKs that have left their bodies during this Confluence Age, prompting so where did they go (other than Brahma Baba).
Where some of these BKs have gone have been explained in the Shankar Party thread :
Whilst this impacts each one of us who is/has become a BK/PBK/ex-BK, more so especially the chariots of Shiva. For example the soul of Virendra Dev Dixit was a BK in his 82rd birth (when he first heard Shiva in 1930s), then on his 83rd birth as a BK prior 1969, before becoming a PBK (84th birth) post 1969 ... but this example is just my own guessing since I am not clear of what the term "birth" means and the meaning of the "84th birth".
I am not sure if all the above has come out easy to read, hope someone with higher intellect can clarify the facts of "birth" and "84th birth" more clearly.
However, later, I discovered, as others did, there have been BKs that have left their bodies during this Confluence Age, prompting so where did they go (other than Brahma Baba).
Where some of these BKs have gone have been explained in the Shankar Party thread :
(a) For BKs, there will be some who will leave their bodies whilst there are others (young in physical age) who will still be alive at the "date of destruction". Who has got to their 84th birth ? Or do those who have already left their bodies, have had their 83rd birth, to take rebirth into another for their 84th birth ? Of which this would kind of conflict in that a BK is his/her last (and thus 84th) birth ? Can you become a BK twice in seperate bodies ?
(b) The PBKs may have a similar, but more complex, situation as in (a) in that the 83rd birth could be BK, and whilst in the current body, the 84th birth to become a PBK. But the same scenario arises as for those who are still alive and those who have left their bodies at the end of the Confluence Age.
Whilst this impacts each one of us who is/has become a BK/PBK/ex-BK, more so especially the chariots of Shiva. For example the soul of Virendra Dev Dixit was a BK in his 82rd birth (when he first heard Shiva in 1930s), then on his 83rd birth as a BK prior 1969, before becoming a PBK (84th birth) post 1969 ... but this example is just my own guessing since I am not clear of what the term "birth" means and the meaning of the "84th birth".
I am not sure if all the above has come out easy to read, hope someone with higher intellect can clarify the facts of "birth" and "84th birth" more clearly.