IDENTIFICATION OF GOD
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param shanti,
There are many notions about God. These notions are contradictory to one another . For example some say God is manifests , others proclaim him to be unmanifest. There are still others who assert God to be incorporeal Many people do not believe in the existence of God. They are still some sects who consider God to be omnipresent whereas others think omnipresence to be an abuse the God. So these contradictory views create confusions in the mind of an ordinary person, which version is correct and which should be accepted , which one is to be rejected? How to decide? Despite the confusions, all religions of the world which believe in the existence of the God have one thing in common, they all say God is one. No religion has ever asserted the multiplicity of god.
Here arises an obvious question “ if God is one and identified , then that identify must satisfy all the notions about Him, though they are contradictory to one another apparently “. So what is the reality?
Here we would like to quote the story of six blind men and an elephant. The six blind men put their hands on different parts of the elephant and each tried to describe yhe whoe animal from the point of view of the part touched by him. The man who caught the ear, said the elephant was like a country made fan. The person touching the leg said, the elephant was like a pillar; the holder of the trunk said, it was like a python; the feeler of tail said, it was like a rope ; the person who touched the side said, said the animal was like a wall and the man who touched the forehead said, the elephant was like a breast.
And all six quarreled among themselves ;each asserting that his description alone was correct. But he who can see the whole elephant, can easily know that each blind man feels only a part of the elephant ,which he mistakes to be a whole animal. All ideological and religious differences and disputes are mainly due to mistaking a partial truth for the whole truth. The judgment represents different aspects of many sided reality and can claim only partial truth.
Similarly, God has many sided realities. To describe god, taking only one sided or partial approach would not give full knowledge about God. Here we would like to quote an example from Guru Granth Sahib where it is stated that if water of all the oceans is collected and make ink and if wood of all trees is made a pen and if whole the earth be made a paper, even then we cannot explain the glory and grandeur of God. Then how can one sided reality presented by a particular religion or sect, explain the multiplicity, the many sided reality of God. It is bound to be a partial truth. So what is the reality? Here we would like to give you a brief description of the World Drama.
In the beginning of the World drama, God is power and only power in a corporeal form. He is called Shiva. The incorporeal power has combined, boundless light and boundless might. Here the Might was also in a form of light from him, come out different souls, who too are in incorporeal form. With the passage of time and continuing sub-division of power, the number of souls created go on increasing in the Supreme Abode, i.e. Paramdham. In Paramdham, the souls are incorporeal above feelings, thoughts, emotions and actions. After a long time with the emergence of the thoughts like ‘Who am I?’, the incorporeal form of God starts transforming int body of light with shape. But that light body is full of energy. The other souls following the same suite acquire the body of light with definite shape and descend from Supreme Abode to the Moolvatan. Here thoughts come in the mind, thereby decreasing the power of the light. The decrease in the power of light leads the formation of supreme elements. Thus, light goes on decreasing and the corresponding supreme elements goes on increasing. With the further thoughts of creation, more and more souls are created leading to increase in population in the Moolvatan.
After a long a time when the power of soul diminishes from 16 celestial degrees to 14 celestial degrees, the souls descend from Mool vatan to Subtle Region, other subtle organs of soul come up. The colour of the suls also changes from golden in the Mool Vatan to white in Suksham Vatan. Till now the souls created are in combined form of light and might. But with the continuing downfall due to loss of the power in the creation of the new souls and atmosphere of supreme elements, the souls which were 14 celestial degrees in the beginning of the Suksham vatan gradually fall to 9 celestial degrees. The Supreme light which was 100% initially, now reduces to 49% and might which was initially 100% now becomes 51%. The might gives a jerk to light and gets separated from the light from in the combined and thus male and female are created. But still it is the body of light. With further loss of power, due to use of thoughts add new creation, the souls' power become weaker and weaker and at 8 celestial degrees the soul fall from heaven {light world} and takes gross body of five elements and come on this earth. The Supreme Soul also acquires body of five elements.
The corporeal world begins at 8 celestial degrees. It is here that the body of light now gets a cover of five elements. This world of five elements that marks the beginning of The Cycle of birth and death. There was no death in the world of light as we did not have bodies of five elements. We were in the unmanifest form. Here we transfer from unmanifest to manifest, thus every souls which descended from Heaven is trapped in The Cycle of birth and rebirth. Fresh souls are also created and the population goes on increasing. Here it is to be noted that the whole power which was originally one power as God Shiva that power has also descended to this world. At the end of the world drama, when all the souls have fallen to 0 celestial degrees, the divine knowledge emerges in the number One soul and he spreads that knowledge among his divine children.
Now let us analise what we have stated here above. God is initially in the form of light {with the might in the combined form} in the incorporeal form. Those who claim god to be in the incorporeal and of light e.g. Christians say God is Light , Brahma Kumaris say God is incorporeal. What is wrong? Nothing, they are absolutely correct. Similarly those who have seen God in the embodied form would say God is not incorporeal. Are they wrong? No. At this stage, if someone says God is not omnipresent. Will it be wrong? No. Since everything in this world tree was created originally from one power {"seed” so that power in the form of force is working in everything or in other words , we can say everything is made from one source, one force. What is wrong if Taking this view, someone claims God to be omniresent? Nothing wrong {as Arya Samaj claims}. Still another one, who has seen God {Supreme Soul} in the last stage at 0 celestial degree if he says, God is embodied. Is he wrong ? Certainly Not.
But what about those who are atheists or who do not believe in the existence of God e.g. Jains, Buddhist? They believe in the theory of action. Such persons has seen only embodied form of the Supreme Soul who acquire the original stage of incorporeal light in the reverse process of going up by the virtue of action. They seen Jiv becoming Shiva on the basis of action. Therefore if they say that only action is important, action is supreme because they have seen God in embodied form doing actions and acquiring the highest glory through purification of deeds. Thus their claim that only action is important, they are also right. Because they had seen a human being who acquired the status of Supreme Soul. Therefore their assertion that there is no God, cannot be said to be wrong. The Jains and Buddhist have laid emphasis on the drama part of knowledge. Therefore, they had denied existence of the God. And because of the souls are also created with mixing of energies therefore their claim that there is no soul, this is also true because they have laid emphasis on the process part or methodology involved in the formation of the soul. Since the drama moves continuously, if they claim that everything is temporary, are they wrong? No. there is nothing permanent like soul. From the angle of drama they are right.
Now in the reverse process of going up what happens the gross body of human beings get converted into light body and then that light body becomes incorporeal {Shiva} and merges take place . the souls which were created , get merged into their seeds and finally all are merged in One Supreme Soul. And again it becomes a pool of power in the supreme abode. Thus the unending drama of world repeats periodically.
Now once again the souls get merged in the absolute or the Supreme Soul to form one pool of power, we find Jiva becoming Shiva. At this stage, all the souls merged in Shiva are now part of one bigger light or drop becoming an ocean. therefore if someone says Shivohum, he is also not wrong. Similarly those who accept soul to be god or in another words, those who says soul is God they are also not wrong, because the soul has ultimately merged in one seed soul finally.
Now when we all descended along with the first pair to this world, all were like the first pair. So that is wrong if it is written in the Bible “God created man in his own image”? Genesis 1:27.
Similarly in the Koran it is written “ God created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of man and woman” 4:1.
Light and might were in the combined form originally. They separated , descended on this earth and they are the parents of the whole world. They are Adams and Eve and from them the whole world has been created. Thus we find no contradiction in the Bible or the Koran. Muslim also assert “ everything is not God but of God”. Is that view wrong? No . Not at all. It is ultimately God who is the creator and in whom is emerged everything at the end of the world drama. Therefore, everything belongs to him.
The terminology used in various religions about the first pair may be different but the essence is the same. The first pair is called Adam and Eve or Adi Dev or Adi Devi or Bhagwan Bhagwati or infinite light & might. But on thing is certain that pair is the creator. Therefore, in Indian mythology that pair is referred to as ”Tvamev matasch pita Tvamev”.
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param shanti,
There are many notions about God. These notions are contradictory to one another . For example some say God is manifests , others proclaim him to be unmanifest. There are still others who assert God to be incorporeal Many people do not believe in the existence of God. They are still some sects who consider God to be omnipresent whereas others think omnipresence to be an abuse the God. So these contradictory views create confusions in the mind of an ordinary person, which version is correct and which should be accepted , which one is to be rejected? How to decide? Despite the confusions, all religions of the world which believe in the existence of the God have one thing in common, they all say God is one. No religion has ever asserted the multiplicity of god.
Here arises an obvious question “ if God is one and identified , then that identify must satisfy all the notions about Him, though they are contradictory to one another apparently “. So what is the reality?
Here we would like to quote the story of six blind men and an elephant. The six blind men put their hands on different parts of the elephant and each tried to describe yhe whoe animal from the point of view of the part touched by him. The man who caught the ear, said the elephant was like a country made fan. The person touching the leg said, the elephant was like a pillar; the holder of the trunk said, it was like a python; the feeler of tail said, it was like a rope ; the person who touched the side said, said the animal was like a wall and the man who touched the forehead said, the elephant was like a breast.
And all six quarreled among themselves ;each asserting that his description alone was correct. But he who can see the whole elephant, can easily know that each blind man feels only a part of the elephant ,which he mistakes to be a whole animal. All ideological and religious differences and disputes are mainly due to mistaking a partial truth for the whole truth. The judgment represents different aspects of many sided reality and can claim only partial truth.
Similarly, God has many sided realities. To describe god, taking only one sided or partial approach would not give full knowledge about God. Here we would like to quote an example from Guru Granth Sahib where it is stated that if water of all the oceans is collected and make ink and if wood of all trees is made a pen and if whole the earth be made a paper, even then we cannot explain the glory and grandeur of God. Then how can one sided reality presented by a particular religion or sect, explain the multiplicity, the many sided reality of God. It is bound to be a partial truth. So what is the reality? Here we would like to give you a brief description of the World Drama.
In the beginning of the World drama, God is power and only power in a corporeal form. He is called Shiva. The incorporeal power has combined, boundless light and boundless might. Here the Might was also in a form of light from him, come out different souls, who too are in incorporeal form. With the passage of time and continuing sub-division of power, the number of souls created go on increasing in the Supreme Abode, i.e. Paramdham. In Paramdham, the souls are incorporeal above feelings, thoughts, emotions and actions. After a long time with the emergence of the thoughts like ‘Who am I?’, the incorporeal form of God starts transforming int body of light with shape. But that light body is full of energy. The other souls following the same suite acquire the body of light with definite shape and descend from Supreme Abode to the Moolvatan. Here thoughts come in the mind, thereby decreasing the power of the light. The decrease in the power of light leads the formation of supreme elements. Thus, light goes on decreasing and the corresponding supreme elements goes on increasing. With the further thoughts of creation, more and more souls are created leading to increase in population in the Moolvatan.
After a long a time when the power of soul diminishes from 16 celestial degrees to 14 celestial degrees, the souls descend from Mool vatan to Subtle Region, other subtle organs of soul come up. The colour of the suls also changes from golden in the Mool Vatan to white in Suksham Vatan. Till now the souls created are in combined form of light and might. But with the continuing downfall due to loss of the power in the creation of the new souls and atmosphere of supreme elements, the souls which were 14 celestial degrees in the beginning of the Suksham vatan gradually fall to 9 celestial degrees. The Supreme light which was 100% initially, now reduces to 49% and might which was initially 100% now becomes 51%. The might gives a jerk to light and gets separated from the light from in the combined and thus male and female are created. But still it is the body of light. With further loss of power, due to use of thoughts add new creation, the souls' power become weaker and weaker and at 8 celestial degrees the soul fall from heaven {light world} and takes gross body of five elements and come on this earth. The Supreme Soul also acquires body of five elements.
The corporeal world begins at 8 celestial degrees. It is here that the body of light now gets a cover of five elements. This world of five elements that marks the beginning of The Cycle of birth and death. There was no death in the world of light as we did not have bodies of five elements. We were in the unmanifest form. Here we transfer from unmanifest to manifest, thus every souls which descended from Heaven is trapped in The Cycle of birth and rebirth. Fresh souls are also created and the population goes on increasing. Here it is to be noted that the whole power which was originally one power as God Shiva that power has also descended to this world. At the end of the world drama, when all the souls have fallen to 0 celestial degrees, the divine knowledge emerges in the number One soul and he spreads that knowledge among his divine children.
Now let us analise what we have stated here above. God is initially in the form of light {with the might in the combined form} in the incorporeal form. Those who claim god to be in the incorporeal and of light e.g. Christians say God is Light , Brahma Kumaris say God is incorporeal. What is wrong? Nothing, they are absolutely correct. Similarly those who have seen God in the embodied form would say God is not incorporeal. Are they wrong? No. At this stage, if someone says God is not omnipresent. Will it be wrong? No. Since everything in this world tree was created originally from one power {"seed” so that power in the form of force is working in everything or in other words , we can say everything is made from one source, one force. What is wrong if Taking this view, someone claims God to be omniresent? Nothing wrong {as Arya Samaj claims}. Still another one, who has seen God {Supreme Soul} in the last stage at 0 celestial degree if he says, God is embodied. Is he wrong ? Certainly Not.
But what about those who are atheists or who do not believe in the existence of God e.g. Jains, Buddhist? They believe in the theory of action. Such persons has seen only embodied form of the Supreme Soul who acquire the original stage of incorporeal light in the reverse process of going up by the virtue of action. They seen Jiv becoming Shiva on the basis of action. Therefore if they say that only action is important, action is supreme because they have seen God in embodied form doing actions and acquiring the highest glory through purification of deeds. Thus their claim that only action is important, they are also right. Because they had seen a human being who acquired the status of Supreme Soul. Therefore their assertion that there is no God, cannot be said to be wrong. The Jains and Buddhist have laid emphasis on the drama part of knowledge. Therefore, they had denied existence of the God. And because of the souls are also created with mixing of energies therefore their claim that there is no soul, this is also true because they have laid emphasis on the process part or methodology involved in the formation of the soul. Since the drama moves continuously, if they claim that everything is temporary, are they wrong? No. there is nothing permanent like soul. From the angle of drama they are right.
Now in the reverse process of going up what happens the gross body of human beings get converted into light body and then that light body becomes incorporeal {Shiva} and merges take place . the souls which were created , get merged into their seeds and finally all are merged in One Supreme Soul. And again it becomes a pool of power in the supreme abode. Thus the unending drama of world repeats periodically.
Now once again the souls get merged in the absolute or the Supreme Soul to form one pool of power, we find Jiva becoming Shiva. At this stage, all the souls merged in Shiva are now part of one bigger light or drop becoming an ocean. therefore if someone says Shivohum, he is also not wrong. Similarly those who accept soul to be god or in another words, those who says soul is God they are also not wrong, because the soul has ultimately merged in one seed soul finally.
Now when we all descended along with the first pair to this world, all were like the first pair. So that is wrong if it is written in the Bible “God created man in his own image”? Genesis 1:27.
Similarly in the Koran it is written “ God created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of man and woman” 4:1.
Light and might were in the combined form originally. They separated , descended on this earth and they are the parents of the whole world. They are Adams and Eve and from them the whole world has been created. Thus we find no contradiction in the Bible or the Koran. Muslim also assert “ everything is not God but of God”. Is that view wrong? No . Not at all. It is ultimately God who is the creator and in whom is emerged everything at the end of the world drama. Therefore, everything belongs to him.
The terminology used in various religions about the first pair may be different but the essence is the same. The first pair is called Adam and Eve or Adi Dev or Adi Devi or Bhagwan Bhagwati or infinite light & might. But on thing is certain that pair is the creator. Therefore, in Indian mythology that pair is referred to as ”Tvamev matasch pita Tvamev”.