Inheritance of Mukti?

Dear PBK Brothers & Sisters. We always talk about 'heritage of Mukti & Jeevanmukti'. Well. I can understand 'inheritance of Jeevanmukti. But what is heritage of Mukti?

Inheritance means gain of some property from parents to their children in their present birth. Through the inheritance of Jeevanmukti we get Godly inheritance of unlimited bless & happyness in this Brahmin birth.

But how can we call 'Mukti' as inheritance? Tell me what we get in Mukti? Nothing is gained or lost in Mukti. Mukti cannot be experienced. Then how can we call it inheritance? Then why in Murlis Mukti is also called inheritance? Can any PBK explain this?

Dear Brother,

Inheritance is something that belongs to your Father, then belongs to you. The Supreme Father is resident of muktidam. We also become. Mukti is liberation from sorrows. Baba via Virendra Dev Dixit says that when a soul is unhappy, it does not like happiness. It likes peace. The example is that if your hand is burning and someone places a rasgula (sweet) in the other hand, one will first put off his burning hand and then will eat the sweet. That's why we first receive mukti, then jeevanmukti.

Dear bro andrey. It's true that when a soul is unhappy, it does not like happiness. First it likes peace. But there is no any relation between peace & Mukti (in Muktidham as you think). Peace is an experience. Mukti stage is beyond any experience, incluing peace.

Actually peace can be related to Jeevanmukti. I claim that we achieve Mukti via the path of Jeevanmukti. Thus Jeevanmukti comes first, then we achieve Mukti. Each & every soul first experiences Jeevanmukti (even though for a second), then he achieves Mukti.

In unhappiness everyone likes peace. And only through Jeevanmukta stage we can achieve real peace. Thus Jeevanmukti (& not Mukti) is the perfect solutioh to achieve peace. In other words we are liberated from all sorrows due to Jeevanmukti. Mukti is ZERO. Nothing (including peace) is gained through it. Mukti in Muktidham never can be considered as Godly inheritance. Then in Murlis, which type of Mukti is called Godly inheritance??

Muktidham is also called shanti dham (shanti - peace). We experience it whilst we are in the body.

Dear andrey.

You have caught yourself in a contradictory logical trap. Here, finally, you have to agree that we experience peace through our body. Thus without body (subtle or material) we cannot have any experience including peace. If Mukti can be experienced in Muktidham, then why do PBKs not remember Baba in Muktidham? Only through Jeevanmukti we can experience peace through our body. Then what is inherhitance of Mukti?

How can the Supreme Home (Muktidham) which is above this corporeal world, be termed as Silence Home? Silence is an experience and all experiences are bound to the boundaries of the corporeal world. Then which Muktidham is Shantidham? - Definitely not that which is above the corporeal world.

Actually, through the practice of Raj-Yoga our bodies will get rejuvenate & will become medium to experience complete peace. Thus our bodies will become Shantidham through we can experience Jeevanmukti & peace & we will be free from unhappiness. After that Jeevanmukti stage, we achieve Mukti (which is not related to peace).

new-world,

You are making some good points. I have often wondered of the meaning of mukti in Paramdham, as there is supposed to be no experience there.

In fact, I even wonder how Shiva or anyone knows what it is, if there is no experience there?

If we experience jeevanmukti then why should we experience mukti after this? It is said in the Murli that, "we first experience mukti and then jeevanmukti". First we go to Shantidam, then to sukhdam, or first to muktidham then to jeevanmuktidham. Both we experience in the body.

We are ourselves souls - incarnations of peace, so mukti is when we get free from all the connections with the body, all relationships with the world and remain in the stage of soul-conciousness. There is no connection with anyone, no thought, just peace, just "I am a soul a point of light and my Father is a soul a poinf of light". Then in jeevanmuktidham (Golden Age and Silver Age), we have light connections of mother, Father, Brother, Sister where there is give and take of happiness. Both are called pure worlds.

Dear bro andrey,

We go sukhdham via shantidham. But where is shantidham?? .. Definately not which is beyond this world. Shantidham will be visualised here & not above - in our body, in the form of complete soul-conscious stage. Thus in Confluence Age, we experience both - first Mukti (peace attained through soul-conscious stage) & then Jeevanmukti (unlimited happiness after rejuvenation of bodies). Thus we experience both Mukti & Jeevanmukti in our body BEFORE GOING TO MUKTIDHAM. But that Muktidham is not Shantidham in any way. And that type of Mukti (zero stage) is not Godly heritage. We do not practice Raj -Yoga to be zero.

Well. The experience of Mukti (soul conscious stage) through our bndy - before going to Muktidham - may be called as Godly heritage.

Dear new world Bhai.

My views about " Ek second mein mukti and jeevan-mukti".

Mukti means liberation from bondage of body and its associated evil (vices). Unless we are free from bondage of body, the question of jeevan-mukti does not arise. The moment we are free from the bondage of this body, then the next instant 108 souls will then get the inheritance of jeevan mukti (which means full freedom while remaining in the body). The soul (along with the subtle body) will have the freedom to take the body when it wishes and when it wants to leave and travel anywhere on this earth. This is the state of karmatit awastha which has been described in Vanis and it is this subtle body or anth-vahak sharir which will be visible to the souls of the world as seperate from the mortal body; and that is why in movies this subtle body is called soul (atma) and will prove in the end that soul is not just a point of light but it is the energy which is driving that subtle body.

So, in short, 'mukti' means liberation from bondage and jeevan-mukti means fruition(jeevan mein rahete hua mukti anubhav karna (freedom from the bondage of karma), in jeevan-mukti stage all karma become a-karma.

At present, during the shooting period, obviously no one so far has got the varsa of mukti and jeevan-mukti. Only when Ramshivbaba comes in the near future then mukti and jeevan-mukti will be bestowed on only those souls who will recognise him and the rest of the souls will get only mukti. (Bindi ShivBaba alone cannot bestow the inheritance of mukti and jeevan mukti).

shivsena.