Points for churning

Murli PT.No.43 (SITTING AND REMEMBERING)

• "Baba ko toh ghadi-ghadi Yaad karna hai. Neshtha may ek jagah baithney kee baat nahi. Chaltey-firtey Yaad karna hai. Train may bhi tum service kar saktey ho. Tum koi ko bhi samjha saktey ho ki oonch tay oonch kaun hai? Unko Yaad karo. Varsa unsay hee milega." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli taareekh 01.10.05, page 3)

• "One must remember Baba every second. It is not a question of sitting in faith (neshtha) at one place. One must be in remembrance even while walking and moving. You can do service even in the train. You can explain anyone that who is the greatest among all. Remember Him. The inheritance will be obtained from Him only.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 01.10.05, page 3 published by BKs)

- Baba is telling that it is not a matter of sitting in neshtha at one place. But BKs generally enable us to practice sitting at one place and remember Baba while taking drishti from human beings? Is it in accordance with Shrimat?
- Baba is asking us to remember 'Him' and that the inheritance will be obtained from 'Him' only. If ShivBaba is speaking the above versions sitting in the body of Brahma, then why is He asking the children to remember Him, the highest among all? Will the “Highest among all” be proved on this earth when souls of all the religious fathers are present or will it be proved in the Subtle Region?

Murli POINTS 44 (DOES Father DIE?)

• "Baap aaya fir chalaa jaayega. Unkay liye aisey thodey hee kahengey ki mar gaya. Jaisey Shivanand kay liye kahengey shareer chod diya fir kriyakarma kartey hain. Yah Baap chalaa jaayega toh inka kriyakarma, ceremony aadi kuch bhi nahi karna hota. Unkay toh aaney kaa bhi pataa nahi padta. Kriyakarma aadi kee toh baat hee nahi hai. Aur sab manushyon ka kriyakarma kartey hain. Baap ka kriyakarma hota nahi, unko shareeer hee nahi. Sab manushya sarson misal peeskar khalaas ho jaatey hain." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli taareekh 04.10.05, page 2)

• "Father has come and will depart. It cannot be said that he is dead. For e.g. it would be said for Shivanand that he left his body; then they perform the last rites. When this Father departs then there will not be any necessity to perform his last rites, (funeral) ceremony etc. One does not even know about his arrival. There is no question of performing the last rites at all. Last rites are performed for all other human beings. Last rites cannot be performed for Father. He does not have a physical body at all. All the human beings get destroyed after being crushed like the mustard seeds.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 04.10.05, page 2 published by BKs)

- Baba is telling that it cannot be said that he is dead. But Brahma Baba, whom BKs reveal as the only corporeal medium of God, has left his body and his last rites were also performed. So can’t it be said that only the role of a mother was played through Brahma? Then where is the Father’s role being played, which is indestructible?
- If we say that in the above Murli point the word Father has been used only for the incorporeal point of light Shiv. Then in that case, why has the picture of Shankar been shown sitting on a globe within the picture of World Tree (Kalpa Vriksha)? Is Shiv Shankar the indestructible form of God, whom no other human soul is able to observe leaving his body?
- BKs tell that Shiv enters into Gulzar Dadi aur the programme of his entry is fixed many months earlier. Even the entry into Gulzar Dadi takes place with a jerk, which also indicates the entry. But Baba is telling that one does not even know about his arrival. Then does only a human soul, i.e. Brahma enters into Gulzar Dadi or is it Shiv also?

Murli POINTS 45 (FAITH BASED ON DIVINE VISIONS)

• "Mera hee part hai saakshaatkaar karaaney ka. Saakshaatkaar honay say kitna khush ho jaatey hain. Milta kuch bhi nahi....Meera ko saakshaatkaar hua. Parantu mukti ko thoday hee paaya. Manushya samajhtey hain vah rahtee hee Vaikunth may thee. Parantu Vaikunth Krishnapuri hai kahaan. Yah sab hai sakshaatkaar. Baap baith sab baatein samjhaatey rahtey hain. Inko bhi pehley - pehley Vishnu ka saakshaatkaar hua toh bahut khush ho gaya. Vah bhi jab dekha ki mai Maharaja banta hoon. Vinaash bhi dekha fir raajaai ka bhi dekha tab nishchay baitha oho! Mai toh vishwa ka maalik banta hoon." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli taareekh 4.10.05,pg 4)

• "It is only my part to cause divine visions. How happy people become when they experience divine visions! They don’t gain anything at all.....Meera also had divine visions. But she did not get any salvation. Human beings think that she was residing in Vaikunth only. But where is Vaikunth, the abode of Krishna? All these are visions. Father sits and explains all these matters. When he (i.e. Brahma Baba) also had the divine vision of Vishnu initially, then he felt very happy. That too, when he saw that I am going to become Maharaja. He saw destruction as well as kingdom. Then he developed faith. Oho! I become the master of the world.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 04.10.05, page 4 published by BKs)

- Baba is telling that Brahma Baba developed faith and became happy only after he had divine visions. Baba is also telling that nothing can be gained from divine visions. Hence, who plays a greater role and who is more worshipworthy and praiseworthy – the one, who develops faith and becomes happy on the basis of divine visions or the one, who recognizes ShivBaba only through the third eye of knowledge?

Murli PT.No. 46 (IMPORTANCE OF CORPOREAL MEDIUM)

• "Baap kee raay par chalney may hee kalyaan hai. Apna bhi kalyaan karna hai. Koi ko ‘worth pound’ banaa nahi saktey hain toh ‘worth not a penny’ thahrey na. Pound ban-ney laayak nahin. Yahaan value nahin toh vahaan bhi value nahin rahegi. Serviceable bachhon ko service ka kitna shauk rahta hai. Chakra lagaatey rahtey hain. Service nahi kartey toh unko rahamdil, kalyaankaari kuch bhi nahin kahengey. Baba ko Yaad nahee kartey toh tuchh kaam kartey hongey. Pad bhi tuchh payengey. Aisey nahin, hamaara toh ShivBaba say Yoga hai. Yah toh hai hee BK. ShivBaba Brahma dwara hee gyaan dey saktey hain. Sirf ShivBaba ko Yaad karengey toh Murli kaisey sunengey? Fir nateeja kya hoga? Padhengey nahi toh pad kyaa payengey?" (BKs dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli taareekh 17.09.05, pg 3 & 4)

• "Benefit lies only in following the advice of Father. One must also uplift himself. If children cannot make anyone ‘worth pound’, then they themselves remain worth not a penny, isn’t it? They are not capable of becoming pound. If there is no value here, then there will not be any value there. Serviceable children have so much interest in doing service! They keep on visiting places. If they do not do service, then they cannot be called merciful, benefactor. If they do not remember Baba, then they must be doing useless things. Even the post that they get will be valueless. One should not think that ‘Our Yoga (link) is only with ShivBaba (i.e. point of light).’ They are BKs only. ShivBaba can give knowledge through Brahma only. If you remember only ShivBaba, then how will you listen to Murli? Then what will be the result? If you don’t study, then which post will you achieve?” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 17.09.05, page 3 & 4 published by BKs)

- BKs say that ShivBaba has returned to the Soul World in 1969 and that we must remember Him as a point of light in the Soul World. But Baba is telling that if you remember only ShivBaba, then how will you listen to Murli? Do BKs remember Supreme Soul Shiv through Gulzar Dadi, whom they consider to be the medium of God?
- BKs say that ShivBaba is narrating knowledge through Gulzar Dadi since 1969. But Baba is telling above that ShivBaba can give knowledge only through Brahma. Then is Gulzar Dadi called as Brahma? If she is not called Brahma, then is the soul narrating knowledge through her Shiv or only Brahma?

Murli PT.No. 47 (EXPERIENCE Soul World HERE)

• "Shanti aur ashaanti kee baat yahaan vishwa par hee hoti hai. Vah toh hai hee nirvaandhaam, jahaan shaanti-ashaanti ka prashna hee nahi uth sakta hai." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli taareekh 21.09.05, pg 1)

• "The question of peace and peacelessness is applicable here in this world only. That is nirvaandhaam (Soul World), where the question of peace or peacelessness does not arise at all.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 21.09.05, page 1 published by BKs)

- BKs practice experiencing peace and remembering the point of light Shiv by taking their intellect to the Soul World. But Baba is telling that the question of peace or peacelessness does not arise in the Soul World above at all. So, is the method of experiencing peace or remembering the point of light by focusing the intellect on the Soul World correct?

Murli PT.No. 48 (Trimurti STAMP)

• "Jis-jis kee raajaai may jis oonch purush kee past kee history achhi hoti hai, toh unki stamp bhi banaatey hain. Ab Shiv kee jayanti bhi manaatey hain. Samjhaana chahiye sabsey oonch jayanti kiski hui? Kiski stamp banaani chaahiye? Koi saadhu-sant athava Sikhon ka, Musalmaanon ka va Angrezon ka, koi Philosopher achha hoga toh unki stamp banaatey rahtey hain. Jaisey Rana Prataap aadi kee bhi banaatey hain. Ab vaastav may stamp honi chaahiye Baap kee, jo sabka sadgati daata hai. Sabsey oonch tay oonch hai ShivBaba, patit paavan ... Stamp bhi ShivBaba kee kaisey banaaen? Bhaktimarg may toh Shivling banaatey hain. Vahee oonch tay oonch aatma thahrey. ... Manushyon ko jab poora gyaan ho tab arth sahit stamp nikley. Satyug may stamp nikalti hee in Lakshmi-Narayan kee hai. ShivBaba ka gyaan toh vahaan rahta nahi. Toh jaooor oonch tay oonch Lakshmi Narayan kee hee stamp lagti hogi. Abhi bhi Bharat ka vah stamp hona chahiye. Oonch tay oonch hai Trimurti Shiv." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli taareekh 23.09.05, pg 1 & 2)

• "In whichever kingdom, whichever person has a good history in the past, then stamps are also released in their commemoration. Now, the birthday of Shiv is also celebrated. It must be explained, "Whose birthday is the highest? Whose stamp must be prepared?" If a monk or saint or a philosopher of Sikhs, Muslims or Englishmen is good (i.e. famous), then they go on making their stamps. For e.g. stamps of Rana Pratap etc; are also prepared. Now actually stamp should be of Father, who bestows salvation upon everyone ... Greatest among all is ShivBaba, the purifier of the sinful ... How can the stamp of ShivBaba be prepared? In the path of worship Shivlings are prepared. He only is supposed to be the greatest among all souls ... When the human beings get complete knowledge, then they will release the meaningful stamp. In the Golden Age, stamps of these Lakshmi and Narayan are only released. Awareness about ShivBaba will not be there (in the Golden Age). So certainly the stamp of the greatest among all, i.e. Lakshmi and Narayan only must have been in use. Even now that should be India's stamp. Greatest among all is Trimurti Shiv." (Revised Sakar Murli dated 23.09.05, page 1&2 published by BKs, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba)

- Baba is telling that the stamps should be of the highest among all, i.e. Trimurt Shiv or the highest among all, i.e. Lakshmi & Narayan. But when the BKs had a postal stamp released in 1994, it contained the portrait of Dada Lekhraj only. Was it according to Baba’s Shrimat?
- Will there be any necessity to affix stamps on letters in the Golden Age?

Murli PT.No. 49 (Radha Krishna SAME KINGDOM OR DIFFERENT)
• "Aajkal kahtey hain, ek raajya, ek dharma, ek bhasha ho. One caste, one religion, one God. Ab Government likhti bhi hai, one God hai, fir sarvavyaapi kyon kahtey hain? One God toh koi maanta hee nahi hai. Toh ab tumko fir yah likhna hai." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli taareekh 05.09.05, pg 4)
• "Bhaaratwaasiyon ko yah pataa nahi hai ki Radhey-Krishna aapas may kya lagtey thay. Dono hee alag-alag raajaai kay thay. Fir swayamvar baad Lakshmi-Narayan bantey hain. Yah sab baatein Baap hee aakar samjhaatey hain." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli taareekh 07.10.05, pg 3)

• "Now a days people say that there should be one kingdom, one religion and one language. One caste, one religion, one God. Now Government also writes, God is one, then why is God called omnipresent? Nobody considers God to be one at all. So now you must write this again.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 05.09.05, page 4 published by BKs)
• "Indians do not know what was the relationship between Radha and Krishna? Both belonged to different kingdoms. Then after engagement, they become Lakshmi and Narayan. Father only comes and explains all these matters.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 07.10.05, page34 published by BKs)

- Both the Murli points mentioned above do not tally with each other. In one Murli Baba is telling that there should be one religion, one kingdom. And in another Murli point Baba is telling that Radha and Krishna belong to different kingdoms. Were there really two kingdoms in the Golden Age? If so, then why is Baba telling that the Indians do not know what was the relationship between Radha and Krishna? Were they children of the same parents belonging to the same kingdom?

Murli PT.No. 50 (LIVING AND NON-LIVING PICTURES)

"Mandiron may bhi Aadi Dev ka chitra hai na. Tum vahaan jaayengey toh samjhengey yah toh hamara yaadgaar hai. Baba bhi baithey hain, ham bhi baithey hain. Yahaan Baap chaitanya may baithey hain, vahaan jad chitra rakhey hain. Oopar may swarga bhi theek hai, jinhonay mandir dekha hai, vah jaantey hain ki Baba hamko ab chaitanya may Rajyog sikha rahey hain." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli taareekh 05.09.05, pg 2)

"In the temples also there are pictures of Aadi-Dev (the first deity) isn’t it? When you go there (to the Dilwara Temple) you will feel that it is our reminder (yaadgaar). Baba is also sitting; we are also sitting. Here Father is sitting alive, and there, inert pictures have been kept. The heaven above (engraved on the ceiling of Dilwara temple) is also correct. Those who have seen the temple know that Baba is now teaching us Rajyog alive.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 05.09.05, page 2 published by BKs)

- Baba is telling that here Father is sitting alive and there, non-living pictures have been kept. If Father is sitting alive in the Madhuban situated at Mt. Abu and is teaching Rajyog, then is it necessary or correct to display the non-living pictures of Brahma, Saraswati, Didi, Dadis and other BKs? Is it not like following the path of worship? Don’t the non-living pictures at Madhuban point towards the fact that Father is teaching Rajyog alive somewhere else, where the non-living pictures are not displayed?

Murli Pt. No. 51 (Prajapita Brahma - Father of all religious fathers)

"Baap hai behad ka maalik rachata. Bachhon ko samjhaaya gaya hai aur dharmasthaapak bhi yahaan jaroor aatey hain. Tumko saakshaatkaar karaaya tha – Ibrahim, Christ aadi kaisey aatey hain. Vah toh pichaadi may jab bahut aawaaz niklega tab aayengey. ... Shri Krishna yah baatein samjha nahi saktey. Unko Baap bhi nahi kahengey. Baap hai lokik, aloukik aur paarloukik. Hud ka Baap lokik, behad ka Baap hai – paarloukik, aatmaon ka. Aur ek yah hai Sangamyugi wonderful Baap, inko aloukik kahaa jaata hai. Prajapita Brahma ko koi Yaad hee nahi kartey. Vah hamaara great-great-grandfather hai, yah buddhi may nahi aata hai. Kahtey bhi hain Aadi Dev, Adam ... Parantu kahney maatra." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli taareekh 05.09.05, pg 2)

"Father is the unlimited master-the creator. Children have been explained that founders of other religions also come here definitely. Divine visions have been caused to you – how Abraham, Christ, etc. come. They will come in the end when this knowledge becomes very famous. ... Shri Krishna cannot explain these matters. He cannot even be called as Father. Father is lokik, aloukik, and paarloukik. The limited Father is lokik, unlimited Father of souls is paarloukik and this one is the Confluence-Aged wonderful Father. He is called aloukik. Nobody remembers Prajapita Brahma at all. It does not strike anybody's intellect that he is our great-great-grandfather. People utter the words, 'Aadi-Dev (the first deity), Adam' ... but it is only for name sake." (Revised Sakar Murli dated 05.09.05, page 2 published by BKs)

• Baba is telling that in the end all the religious fathers definitely come in front of Father. Baba is also telling that aloukik Father is called Great-Great-Grandfather, Aadi-dev, Adam. So certainly when all the religious fathers come here, then Prajapita Brahma should also be present here. If we accept the version of BKs then ShivBaba enters into Gulzar Dadi. But she is not called Prajapita Brahma. When all the religious fathers have been revealed through male bodies, then can the Supreme Father Shiv get revealed through the body of a virgin, especially when all the three personalities of the Trimurti, i.e. Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar are males? Dada Lekhraj Brahma is not present on this world drama stage. That is why he too cannot be called Great-Great-Grandfather. When other religious fathers, who are not allrounders, have not left the world stage, then how can Dada Lekhraj Brahma, believed to be Great-Great-Grandfather by BKs, leave the world stage without being accepted by the whole world as their Father? If Dada Lekhraj and Gulzar Dadi cannot be called Great-Great-Grandfather, then where is the Great-Great-Grandfather of the world playing his role presently, in front of whom all the religious fathers would come?

Murli Pt. No. 52 (use of words Trimurti - Prajapita)

"Shiv kay aagey Trimurti jaroor chaahiye. Yah bhi likhna hai deity sovereignty aapka janma siddha adhikaar hai. So bhi abhi Kalpa kay sangam yugey. Clear likhney bigar manushya kuch samajh nahi saktey. Aur doosri baat sirf BK naam jo padta hai, usmay Prajapita akshar jaroori hai, kyunki Brahma naam bhi bahuton kay hain. Prajapita Brahmakumari Ishwariya Vishwavidyalay likhna hai." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli taareekh 14.09.05, pg 1)

"The word Trimurti is certainly required to be added before Shiv. It must also be written 'Deity sovereignty is your birth right', that too now in the Confluence Age of the Kalpa. Human beings cannot understand anything if you don't write clearly. And secondly, in the name, which is written as just 'BK', the word Prajapita is necessary, because many people have the name Brahma. It must be written Prajapita Brahmakumari Ishwariya Vishwa Vidyalay." (Revised Sakar Murli dated 14.09.05, page 1 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba and translated by a PBK)

• Baba is telling that deity sovereignty is your birthright. But BKs say that we will become deities in the next birth only. Then how can it be called birthright? Birthright should be obtained in this birth itself, is not it?
• Baba is telling that in the name, which is written as just 'BK', the word Prajapita is necessary. But all the members of the Brahmakumari Institution are known as BKs only and not as PBKs. Will it not be more in accordance with the Shrimat if we call ourselves PBKs?
• Baba is telling that we must write Prajapita Brahmakumari Ishwariya Vishwa Vidyalay. But in most of the BK centres of the world, it is written only 'Brahmakumaris Centre' on the boards and pamphlets. Is doing so not a violation of Shrimat?

Murli Pt. No. 53 (Birthdays and Marriage dates)

"Vah hai blood connection, abhi tumhaara yah hai roohani connection. Kahtey hain na Baba ham aapka do maas ka bachha hoon. Kayi bachhey roohani birthday manaatey hain. Eeshwariya birthday hee manaana chaahiye. Vah jismaani birthday cancel kar dena chaahiye. ... Aisey nahi Eeshwariya janma manaakar fir jaaye aasuri janma may padey. Aisa bhi hota hai. Eeshwariya janma manaatey-manaatey fir rafoo-chakkar ho jaatey hain. Aajkal marriage day bhi manaatey hain, shaadi ko jaisey ki achha shubh kaarya samajhtey hain. Jahannum may jaaney ka bhi din manaatey hain. Wonder hai na." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli taareekh 10.09.05, pg 3)

"That is a blood connection; now yours is a spiritual connection. Children say that, Baba, I am your two month old child. Many children celebrate spiritual birthday. One must celebrate only the Godly birth. That physical birthday must be cancelled. ... It should not be the case that you celebrate the Godly birthday and then take a demoniac birth. Such things also happen. While celebrating the Godly birthdays, some children run away. Now a days people also celebrate the marriage day. They consider marriage to be a good holy act. They also celebrate the day of going to the hell (i.e. death anniversary). It is a wonder, is not it?" (Revised Sakar Murli dated 10.09.05, page 3 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba and translated by a PBK)

• Baba is telling that we should not celebrate the lokik birthdays, marriage days and death anniversaries. But it has been observed that in most of the BK centres all these three functions are celebrated and Bhog is offered to Baba. Is it in accordance with Baba's Shrimat?

Murli Pt. No. 54 ( Mother and Father)

"Pehley sirf mukhya ek baat par samjhaao aur likhaao. Pehley-pehley yah shabk rakho ki yah kaun padhaatey hain, so likho. Yah baat tum pichaadi may lay jaatey ho isliye sanshay padta rahta hai. Nishchaybuddhi na honay kaaran samajhtey nahi hain. Sirf kah detey baat theek hai. Pehley-pehley mukhya baat hi yah hai. Rachta baap ko samjho fir rachna ka raaz samajhna. Mukhya baat Gita ka bhagwaan kaun? Tumhaari vijay bhi inmay honi hai ... Baap ko jaana aur varsey kaa adhikaari banaa. Bachha janma leta hai, maa-baap ko dekha aur bus pakka ho jayega. Maa-Baap kay sivaay koi kay paas jaayega bhi nahi, kyunki Maa say doodh milta hai. Yah bhi gyaan ka doodh milta hai. Maat-pita hai na. Yah badee maheen baatein hain, jaldi koi samajh na sakein." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli taareekh 12.09.05, pg 4)

"First of all explain about the one main thing and then ask them to write. First of all learn the lesson that who is teaching, and write that. You take this thing to the end (of the explanation); that is why people keep getting doubts. They do not understand as they do not have faith. They just say that it is right. First of all the main thing is this only. Understand the creator Father and then understand the secret of the creation. The main thing is that who is the God of Gita? Your victory also lies in this ... As soon as one knows the Father; one becomes entitled to the inheritance. A child takes birth, sees mother and Father and that is all. The faith becomes strong. It will not go to anyone except mother and Father because it gets milk from the mother. This is also a milk of knowledge that is received. Mother and Father are present, isn’t it? These are very intricate matters. One cannot understand easily." (Revised Sakar Murli dated 12.09.05, page 4 published by BKs in Hindi, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba and translated by a PBK)
• Baba is telling that first of all one must explain about the creator Father, who teaches and then make them write as to who teaches us. Then He is telling that a child takes birth, sees the mother and Father and that is all; the faith becomes strong. As per the BKs the sustenance through mother and Father was over in 1965 and 1966 respectively. So, are the souls who have entered the path of knowledge after 1969 not entitled to the sustenance of corporeal mother and Father and to receive the milk of knowledge?

Murli Pt. No. 55 ( company of truth)

"Manushya bilkul ghor neend may hain, fir achaanak pataa padega-yah toh sach kahtey thay. Sach ko tab samjhein jab sach ka sang ho. Tum abhi sach kay sang may ho. Tum sat bantey ho, sat baap dwara. Vah sab asatya bantey hain, asatya dwara. Abhi contrast bhi chapaa rahey hain ki Bhagwaan kya kahtey hain aur manushya kya kahtey hain. ... Tum bachhey jaantey ho ShivBaba aaya hua hai hamko padhaaney, fir saath lay jaayengey. Saath may rahney vaalon say bhi baandheliyan jyaada Yaad karti hain. Vah oonch pad paa sakti hain." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli taareekh 13.09.05, pg 4)

“Human beings are in deep slumber. Then they will know suddenly - these people used to speak the truth. They can understand the truth when they are in the company of truth. You are now in the company of truth. You become true through the true Father. All those people become false through falsehood. Now the contrast is also being got published that what God says and what the human beings speak…....You children know that ShivBaba has come to teach us. Then He will take us along with Himself. The baandhelis (the Sisters/mothers who live in bondages in the outside world) remember Father more than those who live with Father. They (the baandhelis) can achieve a higher post.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 13.09.05, page 4 published by BKs)

• Baba is telling that people can understand the truth when they are in the company of truth. BKs say that both ShivBaba and Brahma Baba have left the corporeal world in1969. We have become false by coming in the company of false religious fathers and false souls since the Copper Age. Then, isn’t it necessary to be continuously in the company of truth to become true? Baba is telling that you are now in the company of truth ShivBaba has come to teach us. Then He will take us along with Himself. How can ShivBaba depart without taking His children along with Himself? If the true Father is still here, then where is He?

Murli Pt. No.56 (seeking directions from Baba)

"Ab Shrimat toh milti rahti hai. Kahaan bulaava hota hai, yah karnaa chaahiye va nahee karnaa chaahiye-har baat may poochtey raho. Samjho koi police kee naukari kartey hain, toh unhay bhi kahaa jaata – tum pehley pyaar say samjhaao. Sachhi na karey toh baad may maar. Pyaar say samjhaaney say haath aa saktey hain, parantu us pyaar may bhi yogbal bharaa hoga toh us pyaar kee taaquat say koi ko bhi samjhaaney say samjhengey. Yah toh jaisey Eeshwar samjhaatey hain. Tum Eeshwar kay bachhey yogi ho na. Tumhaarey may bhi Eeshwariya taaquat hai." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli taareekh 13.09.05, pg 1 & 2)

"Now you keep receiving Shrimat. When some invitation is received (for service) then you should keep asking in every matter whether this should be done or not. Suppose someone is working in Police, then they are also told.-explain (the prisoners) affectionately first. If he does not reveal the truth then later on one can use beatings. One can be persuaded with love, but if the power of Yoga is contained even in that love then anyone will understand if you explain with that power of love. (They will think) It is as if God is explaining. You are yogi children of God, isn’t it? You also possess Godly power." (Revised Sakar Murli dated 13.09.05, page 1 & 2 published by BKs)

• Baba is telling that you should keep asking in every matter. BKs say that ShivBaba has returned to the Soul World in 1969. Then how can we seek directions from Him in every matter?

Murli Pt. No. 57 (Brahma –Vishnu – Shiva Born Togather)

"Tumko siddh karma hai-gyaan ka saagar, patit-paavan, sarva ka sadgati data, Trimurti Parampita Parmatma Shiv hai. Brahma-Vishnu-Shankar teenon ka janma ikattha hai. Sirf Shivjayanti nahi hai, parantu Trimurti Shivjayanti hai. ... Jisko Baap rachata aur rachana ka gyaan nahi toh agyaani thahrey na. Agyaan neend may soye padey hain. Gyaan say hai din, Bhakti say hai raat." (BKs dwara prakaashit revised Sakar Murli taareekh 3.10.05, pg 3)

“You must prove – ocean of knowledge, purifier of the sinful, bestower of true salvation upon everyone is Trimurti Supreme Father Supreme Soul Shiv. The birth of Brahma-Vishnu-Shankar is together. It is not just Shivjayanti (birthday of Shiv) but Trimurti Shivjayanti (birthday of Trinity Shiv). ... Those who do not possess The Knowledge of father-the creator and the creation are ignorant, is not it? They are sleeping in the slumber of ignorance. Knowledge causes day & Bhakti (worship) causes night.” (Revised Sakar Murli dated 3.10.05, page 3 published by BKs, narrated by ShivBaba through Brahma Baba, translated by a PBK)

Baba is saying that the birth of all the three, i.e. Brahma-Vishnu-Shankar takes place together along with the birth of Shiv. BKs have replaced Brahma with Dada Lekhraj in the picture of Trimurti, but who and where are the actual human souls that play the roles of Brahma-Vishnu-Shankar and take birth together? The birth should take place in this world and not in the Subtle Region, where the BKs depict the three personalities to be existing, isn’t it?