Arjun wrote:
Mouth born Brahmins are those who take the Brahmin birth by listening to the words that emerge from the mouth of Prajapita Brahma and also follow the words of Brahma in their individual lives.
Please could you clarify the difference between "Prajapita Brahma" and "Brahma" used in this case.
Would any soul in contact and studied with Brahma Baba (Dada Lekhraj) before 1969 be considered to be a mouth-born Brahmin ?
Sister Bansy,
Omshanti. Brahma can be the name of many but Prajapita Brahma is only one. Brahma is the name of all those in whom Shiv enters. But Prajapita Brahma is the one through whom Father Shiv lays the seed of knowledge in the beginning and then gives the inheritance in the end. So, by this definition, the mothers in whom Shiv entered in the beginning of the Yagya were also Brahma. Dada Lekhraj was also a titleholder of Brahma.
In the Advanced Knowledge Baba says that those who pay attention to the words emerging through the mouth of Brahma rather than his body are called mouthborn Brahmins. Going by this definition, those BKs who paid attention to the Godly knowledge that emerged through the mouth of Brahma (Dada Lekhraj) and did not look at his attractive body should be called mouth-born Brahmins.
But even then I would confirm from Baba once and let you know.
I missed one other category, Thought-born Brahmins. I recall in the Murlis that thought-born Brahmins are refer to as double foreigners, is this correct ?
As far as I know it is told in the Advanced Knowledge that all those BKs who entered the path of knowledge after the demise of Brahma Baba are called thought born Brahmins.
As regards - a soul who directly became a PBK without being BK and are still PBK - can also take 84 births provided they get included in the 9 lakh souls which constitute the first generation of deities. Otherwise they may take 83 or lesser births. Such souls might have been a BK at the beginning of the Yagya in their previous birth or might have been in contact with the Yagya/Yagya mother and Father.
I would like get the above statement made by me cofirmed from Baba after one of my PBK Brothers has discussed the above issue with me. We had the second thoughts that all the PBKs, being seed-souls, should take complete 84 births. I am also reminded of a discussion cd where a PBK asked Baba about those PBKs who are leaving/may leave bodies before the forthcoming destruction. I remember Baba telling that because of their sanskars of the Advanced Knowledge of becoming kanchankaya (a deity-like body) in the Brahmin birth, they would take rebirth as a PBK and get included in the four and a half lakh souls which survive destruction. That way all the seed-souls would take 84 births.
I am sorry for the confusion that might have been created because of my previous statement quoted above.
With regards,
OGS,
Arjun