suryavanshi wrote:1) "Dukh mein Yaad toh kartein hain na - Hey Bhagwaan, Hey Ram. Ram bhi niraakaar bhagwaan ko hi kahtein hain.Niraakaar hi oonch te oonch bhagwaan hain." mu 13/12/1985
2) "Tum jaante ho ki Shri Ram ki aatmaan toh jaroor poonarjanma leti rehtin hogi. Yahaan hi purusharth kartein rehtein hain. Itnaa naam baalaa hain Ram kaa, toh jaroor aayenge, oonko knowledge leni padegi" mu 19/9/1989
3) ShivBaba, Baba bhi hain, saajan bhi hain, sabhi sitaaon kaa Ram hain. Wahi patit- pawan hain. mu 27/4/01
4) "Ram ko jaantein nahi. Shiv ki jo pooja jo ki jaati hain oonko Ram nahi kahenge, ShivBaba kahnaa shobhtaa hain" mu 18/3/1999
5) Ishwar ko Ram nahi kahaa jaataa. Bahut log Ram-Ram ki mala japte hain paratu Yaad toh Bhagwaan ko kartein hain. Naam Ram kaa right hain kyonki yah toh koi jaantein nahi ki ishwar kaa naam roop kyaa hain? mu . 19/12/2001
Dear Brother.
You have just quoted all the Murli points on Ram, but you have not given your inference about what you are trying to prove. If you are trying to say that Nirakar shivbindi is speaking about himself as Ram (another name of bindishiv) then i do not wish to argue any further. I firmly believe that in the above Murlis Shiva is describing not himself but the 100% nirakari stage of Ram when Ram=Shiv and both becomes indistinguishable from each other and all the titles of bindishiv are then applicable to Ramshivbaba, who will liberate all BKs and PBKs from bondage.
BKs are firm in their belief that bindishivbaba is God through' Lekhraj Kirpalani and PBKs are firm in their belief that bindishivbaba is God through Virendra Dev Dixit. But i firmly believe that the 100% nirakari stage of Ram will be revealed as God Ramshivbaba through Virendra Dev Dixit and these 3 different beliefs will decide who will come in 9 lac, 16000, and 108. Let us wait and see which belief is true.
shivsena.