Q.No.52. Brahmakumari Institution believes that the incorporeal Supreme Soul Shiva commenced the task of establishment of new world through its founder Dada Lekhraj. They say that after the demise of Dada Lekhraj in 1969, the incorporeal Supreme Soul Shiv has returned to the Soul World, and the soul of Dada Lekhraj Brahma is in the Subtle Region above. What is your opinion in this regard?
Ans: Brahmakumaris have been telling after the year 1969 that the Supreme Father Shiva, who is considered as the real founder of this unworldly family has left for Paramdham, His own Abode beyond the Sun, Moon, & Stars and sometimes He enters into the corporeal body of BK. Gulzar Dadi in Mount Abu to narrate knowledge. But do you think that just as other religious fathers came at their respective times and spread dualism and diversity and left their bodies, will the Supreme Soul Shiv also incarnate in this world and depart from it leaving his mission of establishing one true deity religion and the Satyug (Golden Age) incomplete?
Actually, after the demise of Dada Lekhraj (Brahma) in 1969, the Supreme Father Shiva has not returned to Shanti Dham (His Abode, the Soul World), but He left Rajasthan, renowned for Brahma, one among the Trinity (Tridev), and has shifted to the sacred land of Uttar Pradesh, the land of revelation-like birth of Vishnu and Mahadev Shiv Shankar and is performing the incognito task of world transformation from a small village called Kampila, known for being the place of long incognito stay of Pandavas of the Mahabharat era.
Q.No.53. Contrary to your claims, the Brahmakumari Vidyalaya says that the Supreme Soul Shiva and the soul of Dada Lekhraj descend from the Soul World and Subtle Region respectively and enter into the body of BK Gulzar Dadi in Mt. Abu every year as per the pre-determined programme and narrates Avyakt Vani. What is your opinion in this regard?
Ans: Just as the eldest son plays the role of mother and Father for his younger siblings in the absence of mother and Father in a worldly family. Similarly, the soul of Dada Lekhraj in whose body God Shiv played the role of big mother, after leaving its body in 1969, started giving subtle sustenance to the Brahmin family, which had been feeling like orphans, through the Avyakt Vanis containing moral teachings narrated through the body of BK Gulzar Dadi.
The Gyan Murlis (flutes of knowledge) narrated by ShivBaba through the body of Brahma Baba from 1951 to 1969 can be termed as "poetry of knowledge" or "Gita"; but The Knowledge containing moral teachings, which was narrated by the soul of Brahma Baba through the body of Gulzar Dadi 1969 onwards can be termed as the "Prose" of Godly literature. The above Gita contains The Knowledge of the beginning, middle and end of the world drama cycle as well as the history and geography of all the religions; but the Avyakt Vanis contain only The Knowledge regarding inculcation of divine virtues.
After 1969, in the absence of the permanent or temporary mother and Father, the Brahmin children considered the subtle sustenance of Brahma Baba through Gulzar Dadi to be the sustenance of incorporeal Father Shiva; but there are cogent proofs in the Sakar Murlis and Avyakt Vanis that it is the soul of Brahma, i.e. big mother and not Father Shiva who enters into BK Gulzar Dadi.
1. "Such a highest Father ... he can enter into a pure virgin, but it is against the rule. How can a Father enter into a virgin?" (Murli dated 15.10.69 ). Gulzar Dadi is a virgin, and that too a Baal Brahmacharini (i.e. celibate since birth), while Baba says that he enters into the numberone lustful thorn and makes him the number one flower.
2. “Father enters into the body of that soul, whose role is fixed for this purpose in the drama and names him Brahma ... If He enters into anyone else, then he too will have to be named Brahma." (Murli dated 19.3.78 ) from 1969. Even after 35 years of Avyakt (unmanifest) sustenance through Gulzar Dadi, she is not called Brahma or Baba.
3. "When I come, then nobody comes to know, because I am incognito. You children are also incognito .. One cannot know when did I enter (into the body) or when I mount the Chariot." (Murli dated 26.1.68 ) ... But the date and time of the entry of Avyakt BapDada into Gulzar Dadi is fixed beforehand.
4. "Baba himself comes running to Madhuban.” (Murli dated 5.9.77) ... But the soul entering into Gulzar Dadi is invoked.
5. “Father explains that the one in whom I have entered also listens.” (Murli dated 7.2.68 ) ... But when Avyakt Vani is narrated through Gulzar Dadi, then the soul of Gulzar Dadi is unable to hear the Avyakt Vani. Only after the soul who entered into her departs, she reads the printed Avyakt Vani.
6. "Children say today Baba entered into me and narrated Murli. Did you feel any burden? Not at all. There is no pain at all." (Murli dated 7.5.73) ... But when Avyakt Vani is narrated through the body of Gulzar Dadi, then there is a physical change in her as well as an adverse effect on her health.
7. "Baba will not sit in big gatherings and explain." (Murli dated 4.9.73) ... But Avyakt Vani is narrated in the midst of thousands of souls.
8. "Is knowledge ever taught over loudspeaker? How can the teacher ask questions? How can response be given on a loudspeaker? That is why a few students are taught." (Murli dated 24.1.71)" That is why Baba does not teach in big gatherings but in small groups.
9. "I do not enter into the Brahma, who is a dweller of the Subtle Region. That Brahma also, who is a dweller of the Subtle Region, has to become pure through me." (Murli dated 4.11.72) ... But the Brahmakumar-kumaris have a wrong notion that the incorporeal Shiva enters into the Brahma, who is a dweller of the Subtle Region and then both of them together enter into Gulzar Dadi to narrate Avyakt Vani.
10. "Father comes in the night only. There is no date or time fixed for his arrival. Date and time is fixed for those who take worldly birth. This is a paarloukik (other-worldly) Father. He does not take a worldly birth. Date, time etc. are specified for (the birth of) Krishna." (Murli dated 9.3.75) ... Date and time is fixed beforehand for the soul who enters into Gulzar Dadi also. Then is it a human soul or the Supreme Soul?
Ans: Brahmakumaris have been telling after the year 1969 that the Supreme Father Shiva, who is considered as the real founder of this unworldly family has left for Paramdham, His own Abode beyond the Sun, Moon, & Stars and sometimes He enters into the corporeal body of BK. Gulzar Dadi in Mount Abu to narrate knowledge. But do you think that just as other religious fathers came at their respective times and spread dualism and diversity and left their bodies, will the Supreme Soul Shiv also incarnate in this world and depart from it leaving his mission of establishing one true deity religion and the Satyug (Golden Age) incomplete?
Actually, after the demise of Dada Lekhraj (Brahma) in 1969, the Supreme Father Shiva has not returned to Shanti Dham (His Abode, the Soul World), but He left Rajasthan, renowned for Brahma, one among the Trinity (Tridev), and has shifted to the sacred land of Uttar Pradesh, the land of revelation-like birth of Vishnu and Mahadev Shiv Shankar and is performing the incognito task of world transformation from a small village called Kampila, known for being the place of long incognito stay of Pandavas of the Mahabharat era.
Q.No.53. Contrary to your claims, the Brahmakumari Vidyalaya says that the Supreme Soul Shiva and the soul of Dada Lekhraj descend from the Soul World and Subtle Region respectively and enter into the body of BK Gulzar Dadi in Mt. Abu every year as per the pre-determined programme and narrates Avyakt Vani. What is your opinion in this regard?
Ans: Just as the eldest son plays the role of mother and Father for his younger siblings in the absence of mother and Father in a worldly family. Similarly, the soul of Dada Lekhraj in whose body God Shiv played the role of big mother, after leaving its body in 1969, started giving subtle sustenance to the Brahmin family, which had been feeling like orphans, through the Avyakt Vanis containing moral teachings narrated through the body of BK Gulzar Dadi.
The Gyan Murlis (flutes of knowledge) narrated by ShivBaba through the body of Brahma Baba from 1951 to 1969 can be termed as "poetry of knowledge" or "Gita"; but The Knowledge containing moral teachings, which was narrated by the soul of Brahma Baba through the body of Gulzar Dadi 1969 onwards can be termed as the "Prose" of Godly literature. The above Gita contains The Knowledge of the beginning, middle and end of the world drama cycle as well as the history and geography of all the religions; but the Avyakt Vanis contain only The Knowledge regarding inculcation of divine virtues.
After 1969, in the absence of the permanent or temporary mother and Father, the Brahmin children considered the subtle sustenance of Brahma Baba through Gulzar Dadi to be the sustenance of incorporeal Father Shiva; but there are cogent proofs in the Sakar Murlis and Avyakt Vanis that it is the soul of Brahma, i.e. big mother and not Father Shiva who enters into BK Gulzar Dadi.
1. "Such a highest Father ... he can enter into a pure virgin, but it is against the rule. How can a Father enter into a virgin?" (Murli dated 15.10.69 ). Gulzar Dadi is a virgin, and that too a Baal Brahmacharini (i.e. celibate since birth), while Baba says that he enters into the numberone lustful thorn and makes him the number one flower.
2. “Father enters into the body of that soul, whose role is fixed for this purpose in the drama and names him Brahma ... If He enters into anyone else, then he too will have to be named Brahma." (Murli dated 19.3.78 ) from 1969. Even after 35 years of Avyakt (unmanifest) sustenance through Gulzar Dadi, she is not called Brahma or Baba.
3. "When I come, then nobody comes to know, because I am incognito. You children are also incognito .. One cannot know when did I enter (into the body) or when I mount the Chariot." (Murli dated 26.1.68 ) ... But the date and time of the entry of Avyakt BapDada into Gulzar Dadi is fixed beforehand.
4. "Baba himself comes running to Madhuban.” (Murli dated 5.9.77) ... But the soul entering into Gulzar Dadi is invoked.
5. “Father explains that the one in whom I have entered also listens.” (Murli dated 7.2.68 ) ... But when Avyakt Vani is narrated through Gulzar Dadi, then the soul of Gulzar Dadi is unable to hear the Avyakt Vani. Only after the soul who entered into her departs, she reads the printed Avyakt Vani.
6. "Children say today Baba entered into me and narrated Murli. Did you feel any burden? Not at all. There is no pain at all." (Murli dated 7.5.73) ... But when Avyakt Vani is narrated through the body of Gulzar Dadi, then there is a physical change in her as well as an adverse effect on her health.
7. "Baba will not sit in big gatherings and explain." (Murli dated 4.9.73) ... But Avyakt Vani is narrated in the midst of thousands of souls.
8. "Is knowledge ever taught over loudspeaker? How can the teacher ask questions? How can response be given on a loudspeaker? That is why a few students are taught." (Murli dated 24.1.71)" That is why Baba does not teach in big gatherings but in small groups.
9. "I do not enter into the Brahma, who is a dweller of the Subtle Region. That Brahma also, who is a dweller of the Subtle Region, has to become pure through me." (Murli dated 4.11.72) ... But the Brahmakumar-kumaris have a wrong notion that the incorporeal Shiva enters into the Brahma, who is a dweller of the Subtle Region and then both of them together enter into Gulzar Dadi to narrate Avyakt Vani.
10. "Father comes in the night only. There is no date or time fixed for his arrival. Date and time is fixed for those who take worldly birth. This is a paarloukik (other-worldly) Father. He does not take a worldly birth. Date, time etc. are specified for (the birth of) Krishna." (Murli dated 9.3.75) ... Date and time is fixed beforehand for the soul who enters into Gulzar Dadi also. Then is it a human soul or the Supreme Soul?