Posted: 24 Sep 2007
Prashna No.188: Yadi Shankar sadaiv Yaad, nirsankalp stage may rahtaa hai toh voh gyaan ka manthan kaisey kartaa hai?
Uttar: Shankar ko kabhi-kabhi suksham vatan may bhi toh dikhaatey hain.
Prashna No.189: Murli may yah kaha jata hai ki science Satyug may kaam aayega. Ab advance gyaan kay anusaar Satyug ya Tretayug may science nahi hota hai. So, Murli may aisi baat kyon aayi hai?
Uttar: Science ka roop parivartan ho jayega. Yahan science destructive kaam kar raha hai , Satyayug may kalyaankaari kaam karegaa.
Prashna No.190: Clarification detey samay kabhi kabhi Baba kahtey hain ‘ShivBaba Brahma Baba may aatey thay’. Ab ‘ShivBaba’ ka arth hai nirakar aur Sakar ka combination. Toh Sakar may Sakar Brahma Baba kaisay aa sakta hai?
Uttar: Clarification jis tan dwara diya ja rahaa hai uski buddhi may bindi hi Baba hai. Murli may kaha hai -“Terey buddhi may Baba kahney say bindi hi Yaad aavey”
Prashna No.191: Basic Gyan may mai Shiv ko Paramdham may ek oval laal light kay roop may Yaad karta tha. Aur us laal light ko Yaad kartey samay mai divya aanand ki anubhooti kartaa tha. Ab Supreme Soul Shiv ek point of light (safed rang) hai, fir mujhey unhay laal light ke roop may Yaad karney par aanand ki praapti kyon hoti thi?
Uttar: Shiv toh jyoti bindu hai, ling laal light hai.
Prashna No.192: Jab aatma roopi sui ki saari cut utar jayegi, tab tum direct Baap say seekhogey. Kya jab aatma ko meditation may khushi ya current ki anubhooti hoti hai tab aatma kaa cut utar jata hai? Yadi nahi toh cut kaisey nikalti hai?
Uttar: Kat bhi 2 tareekey say utarti hai, ek basically kat utarti hai, advance Gyan leney kay baad jo purusharth kartey hain unki advance may cut utarti hai.
Prashna No.193: Jo devi-devataa Satyug aur Tretayug may 21 janma letey hain, unki jodi 21 janmon tak chalti hai. Kintu un aatmaon ka kya hoga jo 20 ya 19 janma letey hain. Kya aisi aatmaen Satyug aur Tretayug may bhi partner ban kar rahti hain.?
Uttar: Haan,ji.
Prashna No.194: Clarification detey samay kabhi-kabhi aisa hota hai ki Baba jo naam bolnaa chaahtey hain vah bhool jaatey hain ya fir kabhi koi vaakya galat ho jata hai toh vay usay theek kar detey hain. Yadi Supreme Soul bol rahey hain toh fir aisi baatein kyon hoti hain?
Uttar: Murli may kaha hai “bhogna toh inko bhi padta hai na. Yaad karnaa padtaa hai. Accha, Murli samjho Brahma nehi ShivBaba chalaatey hain, parantu yah nandi bhi to chalate honge. Bachchon ko saidav samjhaatey hain ki ShivBaba hi samjho. waha sunaatey hain, kab beech me yah bhi bol detey hain. Baba bhi bilkul accurate hi kahengey. Yah beech may interfere kar boltey hain. Kachchi–pakki point kab nikal jaati hogi toh samjho inki hai. Inko toh saarey din bahut khayaalaat karni padti hai." Murli 14-5-68 p-3
Prashna No.195: 'Karmaateet' avastha ka arth kya hai?
Uttar: Karma kartey huay karma ka lepchhep na lagey, karma kay aakarshan may na aaye, attachment may na aaye.
Prashna No.196: 'Mansaahaari Vishnu' ka arth kya hai?
Uttar: Maansaahaari Vishnu nahi, ye kaha hai Vaishnav Devi kay 2 roop hain, shakahari, maansaahaari. shakahari chhoti mummy hai.
Prashna No.197: Basic gyaan kay aarambh may mai Shiv ko laal jyoti ke roop may Yaad karta tha. Ek baar mai Shiv jyotibindu say connection jod paya aur atyant shanti aur aanand kee anubhooti kee. Mai saarey din 4-5 ghantey tak us avastha may raha. Kintu uskay pashchaat vah avastha praapt nahee kar sakaa. Ab mera prashna hai - us shreshtha avastha ko baarambaar kaisey praapta kiya jaaye?
Uttar: Shuruwaat may satopradhan stage hoti hai; baad may sato, rajo, tamo; baad may phir satopradhan stage ban jaati hai.
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Question No.188: If Shankar is always in remembrance, thoughtless stage then how does he churn knowledge?
Ans: Sometimes Shankar is also shown in the Subtle Region.
Question No.189: In the Murli it is mentioned that science would be useful in Golden Age. Now according to Advanced Knowledge science does not exist in Golden and Silver Age. So, why such statement appears in the Murli?
Ans: The form of science would change. Here science performs destructive tasks. In the Golden Age, it would perform beneficial/benevolent tasks.
Question No.190: While giving clarification sometime Baba says “ShivBaba used to come in Brahma Baba”. Now ‘ShivBaba’ is a combination of incorporeal and corporeal. Then how can corporeal come in corporeal Brahma Baba?
Ans: In the intellect of the body through which clarification is being given, Baba is in the form of a point only. It has been said in the Murli - “when you say Baba, your intellect should be reminded of the point/bindi'.
Question No.191: In basic knowledge I used to remember Shiv in Paramdham as an oval-shaped red light. And while remembering that red light I used to feel a divine joy. Well, the Supreme Soul Shiv is a (white) point of light then why I used to experience joy by remembering him as red light?
Ans: Shiv is a point of light, the ling is red light.
Question No.192: ‘When the entire ‘cut’ (i.e. rust) of needle-like soul would get removed then you would learn directly from the Father’. Is the ‘cut’ of a soul removed when the soul experiences the divine joy or current in meditation? If not, how does the ‘cut’ gets removed?
Ans: The cut (i.e. rust) also is removed in two ways. Firstly the cut (i.e. rust) is basically removed. After obtaining the Advanced Knowledge, the cut (i.e. rust) of those who make efforts, is removed in the Advanced Knowledge.
Question No.193: The pairs of the deities who take 21 births in Golden and Silver Age continues for 21 births. But what about those who take lesser births such as 20 or 19. Do those pairs remain partners for 20 or 19 births in Golden and Silver Age also?
Ans: Yes.
Question No.194: While giving clarification sometimes it happens that Baba forgets the name which he wants to say or if a sentence goes wrong, he corrects it. If the Supreme Soul is speaking then why such things occur?
Ans: It has been said in the Murli 'This one also has to experience suffering. He has to remember. OK, suppose it is not Brahma, but ShivBaba who narrates the Murli. But this Nandi (i.e. Brahma) must also be narrating. He always explains the children to think that it is ShivBaba who narrates. Sometimes this one also speaks in between. Baba would also speak very accurately. This one interferes and speaks in between. If any imperfect point (i.e.version) emerges at any time, then think that it is the version of this one. This one has to think a lot throughout the day. - Murli dated 14.5.68, pg.3
Question No.195: What is the meaning of ‘Karmateet’ stage?
Ans: One should not experience the results of actions while performing actions. One should not get attracted by the actions. One should not get into attachment (of karma).
Question No.196: What does ‘Maansaahaari’ (non-vegetarian) Vishnu’ mean?
Ans: Vishnu is not non-vegetarian. It has been said that there are two forms of Vaishnavi Devi - vegetarian (shaakaahaari) and non-vegetarian (maansaahaari). The junior/small Mummy is vegetarian.
Question No.197: In the beginning of basic knowledge I used to remember Shiv as a red light. Once I was able to connect myself to point of light Shiv and experienced immense peace and joy. I remained in that stage for about 4 to 5 hours throughout the day. But after that I was unable to achieve that stage again. Now my question is – How to achieve that stage of highest experience again and again?
Ans: In the beginning the stage is satopradhaan (pure). Later, it passes through sato, rajo, tamo. Later on, the stage becomes satopradhaan again.
Uttar: Shankar ko kabhi-kabhi suksham vatan may bhi toh dikhaatey hain.
Prashna No.189: Murli may yah kaha jata hai ki science Satyug may kaam aayega. Ab advance gyaan kay anusaar Satyug ya Tretayug may science nahi hota hai. So, Murli may aisi baat kyon aayi hai?
Uttar: Science ka roop parivartan ho jayega. Yahan science destructive kaam kar raha hai , Satyayug may kalyaankaari kaam karegaa.
Prashna No.190: Clarification detey samay kabhi kabhi Baba kahtey hain ‘ShivBaba Brahma Baba may aatey thay’. Ab ‘ShivBaba’ ka arth hai nirakar aur Sakar ka combination. Toh Sakar may Sakar Brahma Baba kaisay aa sakta hai?
Uttar: Clarification jis tan dwara diya ja rahaa hai uski buddhi may bindi hi Baba hai. Murli may kaha hai -“Terey buddhi may Baba kahney say bindi hi Yaad aavey”
Prashna No.191: Basic Gyan may mai Shiv ko Paramdham may ek oval laal light kay roop may Yaad karta tha. Aur us laal light ko Yaad kartey samay mai divya aanand ki anubhooti kartaa tha. Ab Supreme Soul Shiv ek point of light (safed rang) hai, fir mujhey unhay laal light ke roop may Yaad karney par aanand ki praapti kyon hoti thi?
Uttar: Shiv toh jyoti bindu hai, ling laal light hai.
Prashna No.192: Jab aatma roopi sui ki saari cut utar jayegi, tab tum direct Baap say seekhogey. Kya jab aatma ko meditation may khushi ya current ki anubhooti hoti hai tab aatma kaa cut utar jata hai? Yadi nahi toh cut kaisey nikalti hai?
Uttar: Kat bhi 2 tareekey say utarti hai, ek basically kat utarti hai, advance Gyan leney kay baad jo purusharth kartey hain unki advance may cut utarti hai.
Prashna No.193: Jo devi-devataa Satyug aur Tretayug may 21 janma letey hain, unki jodi 21 janmon tak chalti hai. Kintu un aatmaon ka kya hoga jo 20 ya 19 janma letey hain. Kya aisi aatmaen Satyug aur Tretayug may bhi partner ban kar rahti hain.?
Uttar: Haan,ji.
Prashna No.194: Clarification detey samay kabhi-kabhi aisa hota hai ki Baba jo naam bolnaa chaahtey hain vah bhool jaatey hain ya fir kabhi koi vaakya galat ho jata hai toh vay usay theek kar detey hain. Yadi Supreme Soul bol rahey hain toh fir aisi baatein kyon hoti hain?
Uttar: Murli may kaha hai “bhogna toh inko bhi padta hai na. Yaad karnaa padtaa hai. Accha, Murli samjho Brahma nehi ShivBaba chalaatey hain, parantu yah nandi bhi to chalate honge. Bachchon ko saidav samjhaatey hain ki ShivBaba hi samjho. waha sunaatey hain, kab beech me yah bhi bol detey hain. Baba bhi bilkul accurate hi kahengey. Yah beech may interfere kar boltey hain. Kachchi–pakki point kab nikal jaati hogi toh samjho inki hai. Inko toh saarey din bahut khayaalaat karni padti hai." Murli 14-5-68 p-3
Prashna No.195: 'Karmaateet' avastha ka arth kya hai?
Uttar: Karma kartey huay karma ka lepchhep na lagey, karma kay aakarshan may na aaye, attachment may na aaye.
Prashna No.196: 'Mansaahaari Vishnu' ka arth kya hai?
Uttar: Maansaahaari Vishnu nahi, ye kaha hai Vaishnav Devi kay 2 roop hain, shakahari, maansaahaari. shakahari chhoti mummy hai.
Prashna No.197: Basic gyaan kay aarambh may mai Shiv ko laal jyoti ke roop may Yaad karta tha. Ek baar mai Shiv jyotibindu say connection jod paya aur atyant shanti aur aanand kee anubhooti kee. Mai saarey din 4-5 ghantey tak us avastha may raha. Kintu uskay pashchaat vah avastha praapt nahee kar sakaa. Ab mera prashna hai - us shreshtha avastha ko baarambaar kaisey praapta kiya jaaye?
Uttar: Shuruwaat may satopradhan stage hoti hai; baad may sato, rajo, tamo; baad may phir satopradhan stage ban jaati hai.
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Question No.188: If Shankar is always in remembrance, thoughtless stage then how does he churn knowledge?
Ans: Sometimes Shankar is also shown in the Subtle Region.
Question No.189: In the Murli it is mentioned that science would be useful in Golden Age. Now according to Advanced Knowledge science does not exist in Golden and Silver Age. So, why such statement appears in the Murli?
Ans: The form of science would change. Here science performs destructive tasks. In the Golden Age, it would perform beneficial/benevolent tasks.
Question No.190: While giving clarification sometime Baba says “ShivBaba used to come in Brahma Baba”. Now ‘ShivBaba’ is a combination of incorporeal and corporeal. Then how can corporeal come in corporeal Brahma Baba?
Ans: In the intellect of the body through which clarification is being given, Baba is in the form of a point only. It has been said in the Murli - “when you say Baba, your intellect should be reminded of the point/bindi'.
Question No.191: In basic knowledge I used to remember Shiv in Paramdham as an oval-shaped red light. And while remembering that red light I used to feel a divine joy. Well, the Supreme Soul Shiv is a (white) point of light then why I used to experience joy by remembering him as red light?
Ans: Shiv is a point of light, the ling is red light.
Question No.192: ‘When the entire ‘cut’ (i.e. rust) of needle-like soul would get removed then you would learn directly from the Father’. Is the ‘cut’ of a soul removed when the soul experiences the divine joy or current in meditation? If not, how does the ‘cut’ gets removed?
Ans: The cut (i.e. rust) also is removed in two ways. Firstly the cut (i.e. rust) is basically removed. After obtaining the Advanced Knowledge, the cut (i.e. rust) of those who make efforts, is removed in the Advanced Knowledge.
Question No.193: The pairs of the deities who take 21 births in Golden and Silver Age continues for 21 births. But what about those who take lesser births such as 20 or 19. Do those pairs remain partners for 20 or 19 births in Golden and Silver Age also?
Ans: Yes.
Question No.194: While giving clarification sometimes it happens that Baba forgets the name which he wants to say or if a sentence goes wrong, he corrects it. If the Supreme Soul is speaking then why such things occur?
Ans: It has been said in the Murli 'This one also has to experience suffering. He has to remember. OK, suppose it is not Brahma, but ShivBaba who narrates the Murli. But this Nandi (i.e. Brahma) must also be narrating. He always explains the children to think that it is ShivBaba who narrates. Sometimes this one also speaks in between. Baba would also speak very accurately. This one interferes and speaks in between. If any imperfect point (i.e.version) emerges at any time, then think that it is the version of this one. This one has to think a lot throughout the day. - Murli dated 14.5.68, pg.3
Question No.195: What is the meaning of ‘Karmateet’ stage?
Ans: One should not experience the results of actions while performing actions. One should not get attracted by the actions. One should not get into attachment (of karma).
Question No.196: What does ‘Maansaahaari’ (non-vegetarian) Vishnu’ mean?
Ans: Vishnu is not non-vegetarian. It has been said that there are two forms of Vaishnavi Devi - vegetarian (shaakaahaari) and non-vegetarian (maansaahaari). The junior/small Mummy is vegetarian.
Question No.197: In the beginning of basic knowledge I used to remember Shiv as a red light. Once I was able to connect myself to point of light Shiv and experienced immense peace and joy. I remained in that stage for about 4 to 5 hours throughout the day. But after that I was unable to achieve that stage again. Now my question is – How to achieve that stage of highest experience again and again?
Ans: In the beginning the stage is satopradhaan (pure). Later, it passes through sato, rajo, tamo. Later on, the stage becomes satopradhaan again.