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PostPosted: 22 Dec 2007
by arjun
Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.786, Audio Cassette No.1272, dated 19.10.07, at Harhua

Clarification of Murli dated 3, 4.02.68 (for BKs)

VCD* Part-V


....If you write down and give the sins committed in (this) one birth, it becomes a little lighter for you. Do we write down and give the sins commmited only in this birth or do we write about all the sins committed in the past 63 births? In order to make our heart clean, in front of the Father, we write the sins committed in this birth and give. So, it becomes a little lighter for is if you have written truthfully and given. And you can burn [the remaining] half through the journey of remembrance. Why? Why has half been left out? It is because the karmic accounts of the past births keep getting transferred to the next births. It is not that – in the births that we have taken in the past, the sins committed in one birth gets destroyed when we take the next birth. No. Some sins remain. That is why it has been said - if you write and give in this birth, if you write the sins of only this birth and give, half of your sins would end.

How will one come to know of the sins of many births? There is more burden of sins of many births on this one and there is less burden of sins of many births on this one, how will one come to know this? Arey, if one has received The Knowledge, then should the mercury of joy rise or should it fall? It should rise. In the path of worship it is said - Sanmukh hoy jeev mohi jab hee aur janma koti aghah naashaihi tab hee (Only when the living being comes face to face with me do the sins of many births get destroyed). So, if one has found God, then the mercury of joy should rise immediately. It should rise to the extent that the matter of the beginning should keep coming in our mind as long as we follow the path of knowledge, that - when we had initially started following the path of knowledge there was so much joy and now the joy goes on decreasing. There must be some reason. What is the reason? The reason is that - opinion of our mind keeps getting mixed in the Shrimat that the Father gives and we start following the opinion of the human beings. We keep committing some or the other sin. Hundred times burden of sins keeps accumulating. The stage keeps falling. So, then Yoga is required for this.

We are the sinful ones of many births. We are the Ajaamils of many births. Why did one get the name Ajaamil? 'Aja' means a goat and 'mil' means 'they used to stay together'. they used to live together with whom? They have been living with sheeps and goats. What do sheeps and goats do? One thing is that they keep shouting 'mai, mai' (I, I) and secondly, whichever path one goat follows.., if one goat falls into a pit, all the remaining will follow suit. The goats, the sheeps follow on the basis of blind faith. What did even we do in the path of worship? Whatever whoever said, we just followed him, Sat vachan maharaj (whatever you say is truth). We became Ajaamil of many births. One must think. So, how will we destroy these sins of many births? It takes time to remove so much burden, does it not? One must be very careful about the battery. What? Those who have a mobile, what are they careful about? That the battery should not get discharged. Otherwise, all the tasks will stop. So, this is also a soul-like battery. One must be careful about charging it everyday. One must get transformed from a sinful soul to a noble soul. Omshanti.

(Murli dated) 4th February, 1968. Everybody's position is different. Is there someone whose positions are the same? It does not happen like that. There certainly remains some difference or the other. Human beings say (God is) omnipresent. If he is omnipresent then everybody's position should be equal. But He is not omnipresent. Is He present in one or is He omnipresent? He comes as someone who is present in one. He is praised only when He gets revealed through that one. Only then can He be remembered. If He is omnipresent, how can one remember Him? Will one remember everyone? Will one get transformed from a sinful one to a pure one by remembering everyone? No. Will the intellect become constant in one or will it become constant in everyone? The intellect can become constant in one. It is even sung – the highest on high God. So, if He is the highest on high, will He be one or will everyone be highest on high? Only one will be the highest on high and all the remaining will be numberwise ones.

Thikkar (a heap of soil) and bhittar (wall) will not be called the highest on high. It means that those who possess an intellect like thikkar (a heap of soil); those who get scattered away from the path of knowledge as soon as they stumble upon Maya a little will they, the ones possessing an intellect like thikkar be called God? There are many such ones, who follow the path of knowledge for some time, and then they lose faith. They break away (from the path of knowledge) as soon as they face a little struggle of Maya. So, how should God be? Will God come in someone possesing an intellect like thikkar? In whom will He come? God gets revealed through such a person with an unshakeable faith, who does not break away from the beginning to the end like the Pole Star (dhruv tara). Whom do Brahmakumaris call God? They believe Brahma to be the corporeal form of God. Some child performed such an action, he stumbled upon Maya, and he met with a heart failure. So, does he possess an intellect like thikkar or an intellect of the Lord (thakur-buddhi)? He does not possess an intellect of the Lord. That person will be said to possess an intellect of the Lord- who remains unshakeable in spite of stumbling any number of times in the world, who keeps his legs firm like Angad (a character in the epic Ramayana) in the world of Ravan.

They do not know anything at all. They have such a degraded intellect (tuchch-buddhi)! Who? Is it those from the Advanced Knowledge or from the Basic knowledge? (Someone said - those from the basic knowledge) Do those from the basic knowledge possess more (degraded-intellect)? Are there not such ones with a degraded intellect in the advance (party)? Do they not lose faith here? They do lose faith even here. They start worshipping just anybody . They do not know their occupation at all that - what is the occupation of the ones we worship? They will know the occupation only when they live together for 24 hours. What? When can a person be judged? If someone lives together continuously, then that person is judged - how is he, and what about the devotees? They do not try to come so close at all. So, they start worshipping just anybody. They do not know the occupation at all. Arey, if God comes, will His occupation be an ordinary one? Although He comes in an ordinary body, but what kind of an occupation does He practice? He practices an extraordinary occupation (asaadhaaran dhandha). He practices such an extraordinary occupation that it cannot fit into the intellect of ordinary children at all
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Note: The words in italics are words in Hindi. Some words have been added by the translator in the brackets to make the translation more meaningful.

PostPosted: 23 Dec 2007
by arjun
Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.786, Audio Cassette No.1272, dated 19.10.07, at Harhua

Clarification of Murli dated 3, 4.02.68 (for BKs)

VCD* Part-VI


... They keep pictures of Krishna at so many places. Go to Shrinath (temple); go to this particular place. It is the same path of worship. It is complete darkness. Knowledge will be called daylight (sojhra). Now every one of you soul is a student. You are a student, so a student should show mercy upon oneself. It is not so, that the teacher will show mercy upon any student. Does the teacher teach everyone equally or does he show more mercy upon anyone? Those limited teachers may even be doing so. This one is the highest on high unlimited teacher. If I do, I will become. Student should study himself. He should not have connection with anything else.

The true children, who are clever, intelligent must be feeling that - the Father shows us such a simple path! What? Nobody else in the world can show us such a simple path to go from degradation (durgati) to true salvation (sadgati). Definitely, we were impure (tamopradhan); then we became pure (satopradhan). Now again after 84 births, we have become tamopradhan. Then the Father has come and is showing us the path. This is a very great Father. What? He is not like those human beings who start a task and then leave it in between and go.

All the religious fathers who came; what was the contract that they undertook - we will reform the world, we will change it. Then did they themselves change or did they change (the world) and go. They themselves changed. The task was not accomplished. This is a very great Father. How will He leave the task in between and go? What is the promise that He makes? I will take you children along with me. Will He leave them in between and go? No. So, one should work very hard. In whatever way possible, one must make this practice firm - I am a soul, I am a soul. Otherwise, what happens? One becomes body conscious every moment.

One should become detached from the name and form, shouldn’t one? The part itself is going to be completed. Then we will play our part anew. That is why the Father says - Now become soul conscious. You children have now become aware that - we have taken 84 births. Neither this one has taken 84 births, nor those who get converted to other religions have taken 84 births, but you have taken 84 births. 'You' means what? Those, who consider themselves to be face to face with the Father, have taken 84 births.

The children should know. What? That how have we taken the 84 births? This knowledge (samajh) should fit deeply into the intellect that - how we have taken the 84 births, from the first to the last birth. We souls are actors, are we not? If an actor does not know about his part, then the Father says - he is a foolish actor. In those dramas, if anyone forgets his part in the drama, then what kind of an actor is he called? Definitely, he will be called a foolish actor. So, what are we now? Now we are just fools. We say - we are souls. Then if anyone asks - If you are a soul; how many births have you taken? Then they will say - we have taken 84 births. Alright, if you have taken 84 births, tell us in what way did you take the births? Where all have you played your parts and how? Then they will show a blank face. So, the children should know that: how we took the 84 births?

One must certainly imbibe virtues to reform oneself. Look, Baba has got the picture of Lakshmi and Narayan displayed in the room. By observing the aim and objective, the intellect will be reminded. What will it be reminded of? That, we have to get transformed from a man to Narayan. Baba says the tactics. Well, whoever implements will reap the benefits. Nobody can have any enmity with the teacher. His task is to teach and the student's task is to study and to improve the character. The character improves a lot in this study. Consider yourself to be a soul and look at the (souls as) Brothers. One must have a good understanding in this matter. It should not be that we keep singing the song - "I am a soul, you are a soul. We are Brothers among each other." And then we start fighting, start going to Courts, Police. The action of police begins.

One must have a very good sense. Those who study should think again and again: we must teach others. If one does not do service, then those who do not do service start thinking about other matters. The Father says - You should have this commitment (taant) throughout the day. What? You should have this for soul conscious stage and you should have the commitment to explain to others. We obtain this inheritance from Baba. Which inheritance? Through the worldy Father, someone becomes a Collector, someone becomes a Master, and someone becomes a very prosperous person. The worldly Father himself educates and makes them so. And here? What does the Father make us here? (Someone said - Man to Narayan) No, we do get transformed from a man to Narayan, but we become the Masters of the world ...

The Father gives us this inheritance. No inheritance can be higher than this. Baba knows that - only those who do service will feel intoxicated. If one does not do service, then the Narayani intoxication will not rise even to the level of dust [a little]. They will achieve a position worth pie-paise among the subjects. The subjects are also numberwise. Some subjects are first class prosperous ones. They sit close to the king. They give a lot of cooperation to the king. They give cooperation through wealth, don't they? Some are very poor among the subjects. They become the servants and maidservants of even the subjects. So, there are many numberwise positions among the subjects as well.

So, one must have this happiness inside. Some are fools who do not understand. Baba has displayed the picture of Lakshmi-Narayan. Wah! We become this through Baba. What? What do we become? Through whom do we become a deity? We become a deity through Baba. So, this is like being Manmanabhav, is not it? It is the aim and objective. From where will that happiness come? It is even praised - ask the Gop-Gopis about the supersensuous joy (ateendriy sukh). This is the glory of which time? Is it a glory of the present time or a glory of the last time? This is a glory of the end, when all your sins would get burnt.

Baba says - If you wish to make progress, sit in front of these pictures. In front of which pictures? Should you sit in front of the pictures of Lakshmi and Narayan? All right, we displayed the picture of Lakshmi-Narayan at home. Did you display at the Gitapathshalas or not? You displayed it at the exhibitions. You displayed it in the museum. Some placed the pictures of Lakshmi-Narayan and the four pictures on the vehicles and exhibited them. Then, did they make progress? (Someone said - It cannot be possible without the intellect understanding it) No. (Someone said - The living pictures) Yes. It is not just the matter of the non-living pictures. You should sit in front of which pictures? Sit in front of the living pictures, then your mercury of joy will keep rising. But for this, one has to make effort. What? The business has been expanded so much; can one pack-up that expanse of business so soon so that he can start sitting in front of the pictures? Will that work? It will lead to a commotion. The society will start chasing; the family members will start chasing. Everyone will pull from all the four directions.

So, one must make effort for this from the beginning. One must not say for namesake. One must not keep the pictures just to show it to others. The matter should fit into one's intellect. If it is just for namesake, to show to others, then all this is a waste. Also keep your photograph below the picture of Lakshmi-Narayan. Is it for some time or for more time? Shall we keep it for an hour and then remove it? Shall we keep it for two or four days and then remove it? (Someone said – we should keep it continuously) Should we keep it continuously? Which one? Is it the non-living picture or the living picture? (Someone said - the living picture) Is it the living picture? Should we keep it in the intellect? Should we not keep it practically? If it is kept only in the intellect…; firstly it is very difficult to keep it in the intellect. Can it be kept? Can it be possible to keep it in the intellect without getting practically coloured by the company? It cannot be kept. If it can be kept, then will we reach the Supreme Abode? Will we be able to bring down the Supreme Abode to this world? Will it come down? It will not come down.

That is why it has been said - keep the photograph in front of you. Also keep your photograph below it. Should you keep it below? What will happen if we place it above? Keep your photo below. It will remain in your intellect that we are becoming this. Until the stage becomes firm, let this photo should remain there. Arey! Will the pictures be kept there till then? Will the stage become firm or will it become even more degraded? Will the villagers, family members not trouble you? Will they trouble you or not? They will. So, should one make efforts to become free gradually or should one run away suddenly like the sanyasis? (Someone said - gradually) Gradually? Until when? The destruction is staring at us. Those who are firm don't even need the picture. What? Those who are serviceable, those who are firm, (someone said - do not) even need the pictures If one keeps on doing service, then the mercury of joy will keep rising. Omshanti.
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Note: The words in italics are words in Hindi. Some words have been added by the translator in the brackets to make the translation more meaningful.

PostPosted: 27 Dec 2007
by arjun
Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.792, Audio Cassette No.1278, dated 25.10.07, at Nellore

Clarification of Murli dated 09.02.68

Part-I-Eng.


9th February, 1968. Is everyone sitting in the remembrance of the Maashuk (the beloved)? Even if you are sitting in the remembrance of Alaf and Bay, it is all right. The Father and the inheritance. We will eat very sweet items in the new world. The children feel joyful too because they get unlimited stuff (beshumaar maal) and the Father feels joyful as well. I give unlimited things to the children for 21 births. Now you children are all under the influence of Jupiter (Brihaspati). The best planetary influence is that of Jupiter. Why? The best ones are deities and he is the preceptor (guru) of deities. And the worst ones are demons. The influence of Rahu (one of the principal planets believed to cast an evil influence), the influence of Shani (Saturn) is considered to be very bad. Now you children are under the influence of Jupiter (Brihaspati). What is the name that has been given? Brihastpati. The husband of husbands. He is also called Vrikshapati. The husband, i.e. a protector of this entire Human World Tree. So, you children should feel so happy by remembering such an influence.

The joy does not last because there is something wrong. They do not make effort the way the Father tells them to do. They do not follow Shrimat completely. Certainly there is a shortcoming in the effort. It means that there is nothing lacking in swaarth (selfishness). That is purushaarth (effort) and this is swaarth (selfishness). Rath means body. Swa rath (one’s own body/Chariot). Whatever is done for one’s own body is called swaarth (selfishness) and (as regards) purushaarth – a soul is said to be purush. Whatever is done for the soul is purushaarth. There are two things – one is a soul and the other is body. The connection of body is with one birth. That too, a birth may be completed or may not. The body may be lost in between; and the connection of the soul is with many births. So, for what should we make effort? For whom should we do hard work? One should work hard for the soul. So that the soul would earn an income. But children are numberwise according to their effort. That is why they also get influenced numberwise. Otherwise, conscience (vivek) says – those children, who have faith, what do they have to worry about? Faith on what?

Faith on one’s soul that – I am a point of light soul; I am a seekiladhi (long lost and now found) soul which has taken 84 births. I am a number one quality soul. What? Other souls will take fewer births. They will not play an all round part in the world cycle and my part is an all round part with the hero-heroine in this world cycle, in this world drama. Whose part is the highest in a drama? The hero and the heroine. The hero and the heroine play an all round part; they are the ones who take 84 births; I too have to play a part along with them for many births. One must have this firm faith; and on what else should one have faith? I am a soul and my Father is the Supreme Father Supreme Soul.

Christ is the Father of Christians . No Christian is going to get more inheritance than Christ. Among the Chrishtian group of the seed-like souls, the seed of Christ gets the maximum inheritance. Nobody else is going to get. Similarly, the root (aadhaar) in whom Christ enters, the inheritance that he is supposed to get, no other root-like soul will get more inheritance than him. All of them are going to be converted into Christianity. They are souls with lesser power, which take lesser number of births , and we are the children of the very powerful Almighty Father. We pass through the complete cycle of 84 (births).

The religious fathers of other religions come in between. What? They come in between and they will depart. Their religious lands too come in between and vanish and we are the ones who play a part from the beginning to the end. So, those children who have a faithful intellect, that – we have found the highest on high Father, who gives inheritance; if He is the highest Father, what kind of an inheritance will he give? He will give the highest inheritance. And this drama is not beneficial for any other soul to the extent it is beneficial to me. Faith on which all matters? Faith on the self; faith on the soul. One should not create any negative thought for oneself. What? One should always create highest thoughts – I am an elevated soul, then, I am the child of the highest on high Father and thirdly – the part of the souls of no other religion is as elevated as mine in the drama. The children, with a faithful intellect, do not have any worry.

What foolishness it is to tell the Father that we are not able to remember you! The highest on high Father from whom one gets the highest on high inheritance, and then to tell that Father, face to face that – We are not able to remember you! Arey, will one not remember the one, from whom one gets attainments? Our Father is the one who gives happiness, an ocean of happiness. What? One kind is the pits of happiness, lakes of happiness, canals of happiness, rivers of happiness. It is said, that rivers of milk and ghee flow, isn’t it? But what is larger than all these? The ocean. He is the ocean of happiness. He never gets exhausted. Where does the Father, who is such an ocean of happiness, take us? He takes us to the ocean of milk (ksheersaagar) and to tell in front of such a Father that – I am unable to remember you! The Father says – This one is a foolish child.

All right, you leave the word ‘Yoga’. I am unable to do Yoga; I am unable to do Yoga. Leave Yoga. Do you remember whatever you see through these eyes or not? (Someone said – We do remember) Alright, then remember that. Someone may say – Should we remember whatever we see through the eyes? Arey, God came in the body of Brahma, and Brahma Baba left his body. Now, how should we remember? Alright, , we will keep the personality of Brahma, the picture, photograph of Brahma in front of us and remember through him that – ShivBaba used to come in him. So, if you remember a point in a non-living idol, then what is the difference? The devotees in the path of worship remember God in idols. They apply a bindu (a point) on a Shivling. They remember, don’t they? But are they able to remember? No. Arey, will He give an inheritance in the form of a point or will He give an inheritance through the one who has left his body or will He give an inheritance through the one who is in living form? He will give the inheritance in the form of the personality who is playing a part in living form, in practical
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. The words in brackets are words added by the translator for better understanding of the translation in English

PostPosted: 28 Dec 2007
by arjun
Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.792, Audio Cassette No.1278, dated 25.10.07, at Nellore

Clarification of Murli dated 09.02.68

Part-II-Eng.


... So, it has been said – leave this word ‘Yoga’. Why? Remember. Whom should we remember? Does one remember the one whom one observes, listens, touches, experiences through these bodily organs, through these sense organs or not? That person is remembered. So, remember that one. What? It is made so simple. Here hathyog (obstinate Yoga involving tough physical postures) is not taught. That is a matter of hathyog; which one? To remember God in an idol; to remember the incorporeal. Now that matter does not fit into the intellect that how will an idol give inheritance? How will one receive the inheritance of happiness and peace through an idol? There is happiness in heaven. How would have an idol created heaven? Does it fit into the intellect? It does not fit.

Now the matter fits into your intellect that – God comes and gives the milk of knowledge through Brahma, which is called Vedvani. He does give Vedvani, but nobody knows the meaning of that Vedvani. That is why He leaves the form of a mother and enters into the form of a Father. In whom does He enter? He enters into the form of the Father, who is considered to be the Father of the mankind. Jagatam Pitaram. He is considered to be the Father of the world. Vishwapita. People of other religions also believe in him. The people belonging to other religion, the Englishmen call him Adam. What? Muslims call him – Aadam, Baba Aadam. There was no man before Aadam – they think like this, don’t they? Even among our Hindus it is believed that – There is nobody who gives birth to Shankarji. It means that he gives birth to everyone. He gives the identification of everybody’s form that – which soul is going to play which part? But there is nobody to tell him.

So, he is everybody’s Father. What kind of a Father? Incorporeal or corporeal? He is indeed a corporeal Father, but until that incorporeal one does not enter him, he does not get the introduction to his form as well. So, that Shiv, who comes from above, and that Shankar, who is already a personality on this corporeal world itself. A child of Brahma, i.e. Brahmin. Both of them are together called ‘Shankar’. So, even Brahma’s soul enters him. Brahma is called the – moon of knowledge (Gyaan Chandrama). What? He is indeed a moon. He does give the light of knowledge; but does he give light himself or did the moon obtain the light from anyone? The moon obtains light and then gives.

So, the personality whom Brahma met and understood the secrets of his visions in the beginning of the Yagya, the same personality, the soul, which was in the previous birth, which laid the seed of knowledge in Brahma in a corporeal form, the same soul, after leaving the body, enters the Yagya again and after entering (the Yagya) becomes a Brahmin and after Brahma leaves his body Father Shiv enters in that Brahmin child. He plays a part in the form of a mother through the body of Brahma and plays the part of a Father through the body of that Brahmin child.

A Janeu (sacred thread worn by Brahmins) i.e. yagyopavit is also shown in the picture of Shankar . What does it indicate? Shankar was also a Brahmin. Yes, Shankar is also a Brahmin. He is the first Brahmin and the first deity. The one who is the first deity will become the first kshatriya in the Silver Age. The same personality becomes the first Vaishya in the Copper Age and becomes the first Shudra in the Iron Age. Then, when the Confluence Age begins again, he becomes the first Brahmin. What? What does he become? A Brahmin. Whose progeny is a Brahmin? Brahma’s progeny. Arey, when he is the first Brahmin, how is he a child of Brahma? Then is Brahma first or is that Brahmin first? (Someone said – Brahma) No.

Brahma Baba had visions. He could not understand those visions. He asked his Guru. The Guru did not tell him. So, he went to the Pundits (scholars) of Varanasi and asked the scholars and teachers. He did not get any satisfaction from them as well. Then he reached his partner at the Calcutta based shop ; the partner who was his employee since a long time, but was his brother-in-law (bahnoi). He was a half-partner in the shop. After reaching there, he put the matter in his ears through her (that) Dada Lekhraj had such and such visions. Nobody is telling him their meaning and the Supreme Soul Shiv immediately entered him and revealed the secrets of those visions. So, the person through whom the secrets were revealed happened to be the first Brahma. It means that Dada Lekhraj did not narrate directly. Dada Lekhraj narrated to a mother and the mother narrated to that person, through whom the meanings of his visions were opened. So, that person happened to be the first Brahmin. Brahmin should be the child of Brahma’s mouth, should he not? Through whose mouth was he born? Who was the Brahma at that time? The mother, who narrated, happened to be the first Brahma. So, he became the first Brahmin.

So, the personality of the beginning of the Yagya, through whom the seed of knowledge was sowed, was the actual yagyapita (Father of the Yagya), but neither Brahma Baba nor anyone else realized this secret at that time and because of not realizing that secret what happened was that – after ten years, when the then India was divided into India and Pakistan and when the satsang (spiritual gathering) got uprooted from Sindh, Hyderabad and got transferred to Karachi, where Baba had started living alone, Baba got intoxicated suddenly. Numerous virgins and mothers, who were living in so much bondage, ran away (from homes) and came there.

So, Baba got intoxicated and at that time the Supreme Soul entered him and after entering him He started narrating Murli. He did narrate Murli, but what was the name given to the institution? Brahmakumari Ishwariya Vishwa Vidyalaya. What? Brahmakumari Ishwariya Vishwa Vidyalaya. Why? Why did they forget the name of the Father? The Murlis began to be narrated through Brahma. The institution that began from Karachi, that institution arrived in India and started opening ashrams in 1950-51 and what were those ashrams named? ‘Brahmakumari Ishwariya Vishwa Vidyalaya.’
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. The words in brackets are words added by the translator for better understanding of the translation in English.

PostPosted: 29 Dec 2007
by arjun
Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.792, Audio Cassette No.1278, dated 25.10.07, at Nellore

Clarification of Murli dated 09.02.68

Part-III-Eng.


... So, Brahma means senior mother. If there is a senior mother, then there should also be a Father or not? There should be a Father, but why did they forget the name of Prajapita? Why did Brahma, Dada Lekhraj, give Brahmakumari Vidyalay his own name? It is because he did not know the secret at all that – the one who had revealed the secrets in the beginning of the Yagya, was himself the Father of the world who sowed the seed of knowledge. The world is in corporeal form, isn’t it? How should the Father of the corporeal world also be? He should also be in corporeal form . So, this did not fit into the intellect of Brahma Baba. That is why from 1951 to 1966, till 1965-66 the name (of the institution) continued to be Brahmakumari Vidyalay.Then ShivBaba reminded [them] through the mouth of Brahma that – Children, when you write Brahmakumari Vidyalay, it is wrong. What should be written? Prajapita Brahmakumari Ishwariya Vishwa Vidyalay. Just as when the children are very small, how can they know the Father? The small kids; whom do they recognize? They recognize only the mother. So, He observed that – these are small children; so, they got to study the same knowledge for 16 years. After 16 years, when those kids became a little clever, then Father Shiv, the Supreme Soul, who is the Father of the point-like souls, who was narrating Murlis by entering the body of Brahma, who was narrating Vedvani, told – it is wrong to write – Brahmakumari Vidyalay.

Someone may think wrong of that. What? They will not consider it good that- these people write Brahma’s Kumari (i.e.daughter), Brahmakumar-kumari; why do they not tell the name of their Father? If a child is asked – Whose child are you and if he repeatedly tells the name of his mother, then will people get suspicious or not? What doubt will they get? Why is he telling the name of only his mother again and again? Why does he not tell the name of his Father? There is something wrong/strange. His mother has not told him his Father’s name. Certainly there is something wrong. So, ShivBaba, through the body of Brahma, made it clear that – write the word Prajapita. Those who had to write did write. Earlier they used to write Brahmakumari Ishwariya Vishwa Vidyalaya. Later on, they started writing Prajapita Brahmakumari Ishwariya Vishwa Vidyalay. But it did not strike anyone’s intellect that – Brahma is different; that the mother is different and the Father is different.Who is first? Is a Father first or is a mother first? First there is a Father. The Father sows the seed in the mother; then she becomes a mother. Mother is the land. What? Mother is the mother Earth and a seed is sown in it. So, the seed is called a Father. For example it has been mentioned in Gita, hasn’t it – Aham Beej Pradahpita. I am the Father who sows the seed. So, neither the Brahmakumaris, nor Brahma knows about the seed of this human world. Till date, it has not fitted into their intellect. What? That - there would be someone to create Brahma too. Who creates a mother? Who makes the mother a mother? The Father alone makes her so. So, there must have been someone in corporeal form to make Brahma as Brahma, mustn’t there?

Brahma is the senior mother. She is the greatest Mother of the World. So, there must have been a senior Father too. So, it has not yet occurred in the intellect of the small children till date that who was the senior Father in the beginning of the Yagya? In the intellect of which children? It did not fit into the intellect of those who are studying in the basic knowledge, those who are in the Brahmakumari Ashram now. In whose intellect did it fit? The same Father of the beginning of the Yagya, after leaving the body, comes to the Brahma Kumari Ishwariya Vishwa Vidyalaya again and obtains knowledge and sometime after obtaining The Knowledge, i.e. 6, 8, 9 years later, the Supreme Soul enters in him. When? 8 years after Brahma left his body. He enters within 8-9 years itself. Does He enter or does He get revealed? (Someone said – Revelation) No.

For example, a child is in the womb. First the foetus (pind) gets ready. The foetus gets ready, doesn’t it? So, is the foetus that gets ready, lifeless (nirjeev) or is it living? It is lifeless. The foetus gets ready in the womb and the soul enters in it. So, does anyone come to know of that soul which has entered the womb? No. So, it is not as if, when Brahma left his body, the Supreme Father Supreme Soul Shiv would have gone up. Can He go up? It has been said in the Murli – I will eat, play and live with you children. I have to give you company in every breath. I have to take you children along with me. It is not as if He will leave in between and go. If He has created the Brahmin world, then He will not take the Brahmins in between. Until the Brahmins become complete Brahmins and then deities, Father Shiv is not going to leave. It is not as if, when Brahma left his body, the Brahma kumar-kumaris thought – Father Shiv has gone and Brahma Baba has also gone.

Brahma Baba left his body, he departed, but Father Shiv did not depart. He entered in some child or the other in the same year. He entered. Thinking and churning continued within that child. That matter got declared in 1976-77. The year of revelation of the Father was celebrated. It was even mentioned as ‘the year of revelation of the Father’. The year of revelation of the Father was celebrated. But it was not known, where He had got revealed. All right, will He get revealed to everyone or will He get revealed to the members of His family first? He will get revealed to those who are very close to his family. Then He will get revealed to the people of the lane, then to the people of the village, then to the people of the district, then, in this way, the news would spread gradually. So, similarly, in 1976, the Supreme Soul Shiv entered and in the same personality, who was in the beginning of the Yagya, and took rebirth to become a Brahmin. He entered the Yagya and his name got revealed. Which name got revealed? The name of that personality gradually got revealed as ‘Shankar’
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PostPosted: 30 Dec 2007
by arjun
Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.792, Audio Cassette No.1278, dated 25.10.07, at Nellore

Clarification of Murli dated 09.02.68

Part-IV-Eng.


... Jainis believe Shankar to be a form of Teerthankar. Which God? Teerthankar. The Muslims believe in him in the form of Aadam, and Christians believe in him in the form of Adam, but they do not know that - this is the form of God. Neither Christians know, nor do Muslims know. They only know that - Yes, he is the oldest man. That is all, not more than that. But Hindus know this fact. What? That Shiv Shankar Bholeynath is the form of God. Shiv is incorporeal.

The corporeal being in which that incorporeal one enters first of all and after entering plays a part from the beginning to the end, i.e., He plays a part in an permanent form, is the form of God. That is why, al the deities…how many are there in total? 33 crores. Out of the 33 crore deities, there is not even a single deity whose name has been combined with Shiv. Is there anyone? Brahma's name is not combined with Shiv. Vishnu's name is not combined with Shiv. Ganesh's name is not combined (with Shiv). Hanuman's name is not combined (with Shiv). Is the name of any deity or Jagdamba combined with Shiv? No. Whose name is combined? Shankar's name is combined with Shiv. Why? It is because the one who is the eldest child brings fame to the Father first and reveals him.

In our Indian tradition as well as the foreign countries it has been a practice. What? The eldest child of a king ascends the throne. Does the eldest child ascend (the throne) or does the younger child ascend (the throne)? The eldest child ascends (the throne). Why does the eldest child ascend (the throne)? There must be reason. Don't the parents love the younger child? Do the parents love and pay attention to the youngest child more or do they pay attention to the eldest child more? (Someone said - the eldest child) Don't they pay attention to the youngest child? Ask your heart.

They do pay more attention to the younger child, but in their heart they also nurture the hope that - the first child has taken birth through the power of long-term purity. That is why he possesses more power. That greater power of purity will take care of the dynasty's tradition in a better way; that is why more importance is given to the eldest child. That is why people think or even say; Baba has also said in a Murli - the eldest child is said to be equal to the Father. The elder Brother is equal to the Father. On whose shoulders does the responsibility to take care of the younger Brothers fall when the Father leaves the body? It falls on the shoulders of the eldest child.

So, that eldest child, who is called Dev-Dev-Mahadev, is the eldest child among Brahmins. Actually he becomes the Guru of all the deities. Through whom? Through the name and form of Shankar. He is in a corporeal form, but the incorporeal one enters him and plays the part of the Sadguru. What? All human gurus are gurus, but the one in whom Shiv enters in a permanent form, what kind of a guru is? Sadguru. It means true guru. All other gurus, the bodily gurus who have existed, were not true gurus. Even Brahma will be certainly called a Guru, but will he be called Sadguru? (Someone said – No) Why? It is because…; did Shiv not enter Brahma? Shiv entered Brahma as well; then why is Brahma not called Sadguru? (Someone said – The Sadguru who takes us along) Yes, Sadguru means the one who takes (everyone) with him, causes sadgati (true salvation) and then departs. Otherwise, what happens? A Guru dies and the disciples remain as they were. The Guru left his body; it is not known where he went. Later, the disciples who are there make the Guru’s seniormost disciple as their Guru. Nobody attains sadgati.

Actually, Shiv comes to cause sadgati. What kind of true gati? He causes the sadgati of the intellect as well. Soul means intellect. He causes the sadgati of the mind & intellect and in addition to causing sadgati of the mind & intellect; he causes the sadgati of the body, of the five elements as well. Through whom? Through the form of Shankar. So, sadguru is believed to be in a corporeal form. Bindu (a point) will not be called Sadguru. It is said – Sadguru akaalmoort. What? What kind of a Sadguru? Akaal. One who cannot be devoured by death; and does death devour the point-like souls or the bodies? It devours the body. Bodies of all others will be seen being devoured by death; but nobody observes the body of the Sadguru being devoured by death, although the whole world gets destroyed by then ; that is why he is called Sadguru.That Sadguru causes the Sadgati of everyone. There will not be any soul in this world that would not achieve Sadgati. The Sadgati is numberwise. Everybody will not achieve Sadgati equally. The Sadgati of deities is of a different kind and the Sadgati of the human beings, human souls is of a different kind. Everyone achieves Sadgati. The first birth of everyone, to whatever period it extends, it will be of true salvation), i.e. in that first birth nobody can get sorrow. Remaining (births) are numberwise. At the most there is sadgati for 21 births. What? Sadgati for 21 births. Remaining depends on the efforts made.

That Father comes and plays the part of a Father from 1976 and whatever Murlis have been narrated through Brahma, those Murlis are like the text books for us. For example books are taught in schools, aren’t they? So, one is – Prose (Gadya). Prose is called Gadya and one is Padya – Poetry, in the form of poems. So, a teacher’s job is to explain the meaning of both kinds of texts. So, even the Father Shiv comes in the body of Shankar and becomes a teacher. He is our highest on high teacher. Arey, if a student goes to school, then does he say that – I am unable to remember the teacher. One should remember the teacher, shouldn’t one? When we study the lessons from a teacher, the teacher will certainly come to our mind. A small child remembers his mother. Then he grows up; he goes to play here and there , then he remembers his friends and companions. Does he remember or not? Then, when he goes to school, does he not remember his teacher? The teacher will certainly be remembered [by him]
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PostPosted: 31 Dec 2007
by arjun
Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.792, Audio Cassette No.1278, dated 25.10.07, at Nellore

Clarification of Murli dated 09.02.68

Part-V-Eng.


... So, the Father says – Remember me. What? The one who gives birth is the Father. OK, when the Father gave birth, at that time the children did not know at all as to when he gave birth; leave that matter. Leave alone the children; Brahma himself did not know, Saraswati herself did not know that – actually who was the Janak, i.e. the Father of Brahmakumari Ishwariya Vishwa Vidyalay? So, leave alone the matter of you children that – who was the one to give birth to you? No child knows who his Father is, the one who gave birth to him/her. Does anyone know? (Someone said – No) Who tells? (Someone said – He himself comes and…) No. The mother gives the indication. What? The mother gives the indication – this is your Father, Papa. A child does know by himself. So, that Gita mata is in the form of our mother. Which Gita mata? The Murlis in which the entire introduction has been given. What introduction has been given? That a soul is a point of light. The Father of the point-like souls is Shiv.

That point of light, Father Shiv comes in an appointed Chariot. Two words have been mentioned – a temporary Chariot; has it been said in the Murli or not? And one is an appointed Chariot (mukarrar rath). The temporary Chariot is in the form of a mother – Brahma and the appointed Chariot is in the form of a Father. He was in the beginning as well and when the entire world will end, even at that time that Father will be present. He will be present in the middle as well as in the end. So, He is true, was true and will remain true in the beginning, the middle and the end. You have found that highest on high true Father - The true Father who narrates the truth and takes you to the Golden Age. How does He establish the Satyug (Age of truth/Golden Age)? Does He establish Satyug by narrating false things? Arey, those religious fathers – Abraham, Buddha, Christ came; those religious souls came; those big scholars, pundits, acharyas (teachers) came; they narrated the false matters of the scriptures. So, what did they create by narrating the false matters? They created the land of falsehood. They established Kaliyug (Iron Age). An Age of disputes and distress (kalah-kalesh). Bloodshed. Kalah means fights; they established the Age of fights and bloodshed. And what does the Father come and do? He narrates the truth and establishes the land of truth (sachkhand)– the Golden Age. So, don’t you remember such a Father?

Some children say – Baba we forget you. So, the Father will say – what kind of a child is this child of mine? He does not remember me! It is a wonderful matter. Nobody forgets the worldly Father. Arey, even animals remember their children; how do you forget (the Father)? It is a wonderful matter that – the children forget the Father. The rememberance through which the sins (vikarma) get destroyed. Vi means vipreet (opposite). Karma means actions. Vipreet karma (opposite actions). The karma is not the way it should be. What kind of karma gets destroyed? The karma which should not be performed. The karma which is opposite to the Shrimat that the Father has given, i.e. sins are destroyed. not just one birth, but sins of many births are destroyed. By remembering whom? By remembering one Father.

Someone may say – What will the Brahmakumar-kumaris say? Even we remember one point-like Father. Arey, how can one know about the point as to which point is the Father? All the human souls are only points . What are all the insects, animals, birds, moths, microbes? All these are points. Which point do you remember? Which point established heaven – how will one know? Which point narrated the truth and established the land of truth – tell us at least that. They will say – Brahma. Arey, had the land of truth been established through Brahma, it would have been visible, wouldn’t it? Brahma left his body. Was the land of truth established anywhere? It became a land of falsehood to a greater extent. There are even more disputes and quarrels, bloodshed going in the land of falsehood (jhoothkhand). The Father says – I do not come to establish the land of falsehood. What do I establish and then go? I establish the land of truth and go. What kind of a land of truth? Such that all the human souls which live in that land of truth in the form of deities will not accumulate any sins. None of them will accumulate sins at all and their past sins would have been burnt. So, all your sins get burnt. Why do they get burnt? (Someone said – By remembering the Father) By remembering the Father?

It is said that – diamond is a very valuable thing. Remember the diamond. That inert stone, diamond is a very valuable thing. Nobody could ascertain the value of the Kohinoor diamond till date. Allright, remember the Kohinoor diamond. Will the sins not get destroyed by remembering it? (Someone said – No) Why? Why will they not be destroyed? [someone said it is not living] Yes, that diamond does not walk and move; it does not speak and walk. The sins would get destroyed when we remember such a being, who talks and walks and moves; and apart from this, he himself should not be accumulating any sin, however many persons he may come in contact with. What? However many persons he may come in contact with, but he should not get coloured by the company.

If you remember such a being, then your sins would get burnt. He is like what? He does not get coloured by anybody’s company. Otherwise, such great religious fathers came in the world – Abraham, Buddha, Christ, Guru Nanak, Vivekananda, etc. Such great personalities came. Everyone got coloured by the company of this world. Everyone experienced downfall and they caused the world to experience downfall as well; but it is one Father Shiv alone, through whose rememberance, the sins of your many births would get burnt. The reason the sins get burnt is that – He always remains in the stage of soul consciousness (swasthiti). What? He never gets influenced by the circumstances. He does not think about others. He always remains in the swasthiti.

He is called ‘SadaaShiv’[Always benevolent]. Through whom? SadaaShiv – Shiv means kalyaankaari (benefactor). Kalyaankaari through whom? Arey, there must be some media. Is it through Brahma? Benefit did not take place at all through Brahma. The benefit of the Brahmakumari Ishwariya Vishwa Vidyalaya itself did not take place. Kalyaankaari through whom? He causes the benefit of the entire world through Prajapita or Shankar. That is why he is worshipped in the form of God Teerthankar in the entire world. He is worshipped in the form of Shankar. So, it has been said – Your sins get destroyed through his rememberance
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PostPosted: 01 Jan 2008
by arjun
Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.792, Audio Cassette No.1278, dated 25.10.07, at Nellore

Clarification of Murli dated 09.02.68

Part-VI-Eng.


... Children write – Baba, what should we write on the card? First of all one should write – Here one would get The Knowledge of the Creator and the Creation. What? Who is the Creator of this world? Is the world corporeal or incorporeal? The world is corporeal, then how will the creator be as well? The creator will be corporeal. One is not going to get the introduction of the Creator through Brahmakumaris. What would they say? Who was the creator? Dada Lekhraj Brahma. What did he create? What did he create? The Brahmakumari Ishwariya Vishwa Vidyalay. Look , they are spread all over the world. All right, the Brahmakumari Ishwariya Vishwa Vidyalayas are spread all over the world. So, is there any praise of the Brahmakumari Vidyalay in the scriptures? No. In the scriptures there is a praise of Gita temples. Gita temples have been built in every village, every city. It proves that – God came and taught knowledge at the Gita temples.

There is a praise of heaven in the scriptures. In the scriptures of the Christians, there is a praise of Paradise. In the scriptures of Muslims there is a praise of Jannat. They say that in Jannat there is only happiness. There was a lot of happiness in Paradise. Hindus call it ‘swarg’ and ‘Vaikunth’. So is this glory, a glory of the truth or is it a glory of false things? Heaven must have existed at some point of time, must it not? Everyone desires to go to which place, to hell or to heaven? Everyone wants to go to heaven, but those poor fellows do not know where heaven is? Otherwise people think – heaven is above and hell is somewhere below. It is not a matter of above or below. It is a matter of high stage and low stage. What? One’s final thoughts lead to one’s destination (ant matey so gatey). While leaving the body, the one with a higher stage of the mind and intellect will take birth in a high world, in a prosperous world and the more one’s stage is degraded, down, sorrowful, painful and disturbed while leaving the body, where will he go? He will go to a correspondingly degraded world.

So, the children of the highest on high Father say – we do not remember the Father. This is a wonderful matter. Why is it a wonderful matter? If they have recognized the Father, then why should they not remember, but they say – He is a point. So, how should we remember a point? It becomes difficult to remember it. Is it difficult to remember a point or will it be difficult if one receives The Knowledge of the point as to through which body is that point working? If one has recognized that – He is working through this particular body, then it will not be difficult to remember. So, He is called – the Creator, the corporeal one. The body, in which the incorporeal one enters in an appointed form and transforms this world, is the Creator Father of this world; then who is the creation? There may also be a first creation of that creator Father. Who is it? (Someone said – mother) No. Tell. (Someone said – Brahma) Brahma?

Mother means Jagdamba (world mother). Jagdamba is the mother and who is the first child of this world? The Child Krishna. Whose creation will be the first child of the Golden Age? (Someone said – Jagdamba) No. There are two mothers. What? In all the royal families that have existed, two are seated on the post of mother. One is Rajyalakshmi (the Queen). What? (Someone said – Rajyalakshmi) Yes, she is called the junior mother (choti ma). And one is – Rajmata (the Queen mother). What? To whom are all the affairs of the queen’s palace entrusted ? To the Queen Mother. But who sits on the throne with the king? The queen sits (on the throne). So, this is the difference. There are two mothers – one is a junior mother and one is a senior/big mother (badee ma).

Is there more importance of the junior mother or the senior mother in shaping the life of a child? The junior mother sustains him in the womb for 9 months. Whatever way her intellect works for 9 months, whatever are the vibrations of her intellect (for 9 months), the same kind of child will take birth. If she creates good vibrations, then a very nice child will take birth. If her vibrations had been bad for 9 months, then the child born will also be like that. If the vibrations are of swasthiti (stage of soul consciousness), then the facial appearance of the child will also become like that of the mother. What? If the mother had been remembering the Father more during those nine months, then the face of the child will also become like that of the Father. You have seen, haven’t you? There are some children who are neither like the mother nor like the Father. It means that the intellect was diverted here and there.

So, there is more importance of the junior mother. There is more importance of the junior mother. So, who is that junior mother and who is the senior mother? The senior mother is –Jagat Amba. Who? The mother of the entire world. Are there only deities in the entire world or is there everyone including demons, deities, and human beings? Everyone is there. She is Jagdamba and then is ...,(Someone said – Jagdamba) Jagdamba is the senior mother and in comparison to her, there is – the junior mother, who is called Lakshmi. What? Mother India (Bharat Mata). That one [Jagadamba] is the mother of all the countries, the mother of all the religions, mother of the entire mankind is Jagdamba and that one is the mother of just Indians. So, there are deities in India and in other religious lands there are souls of other religions.

So, the junior mother is the one who makes the rosary of victory (vijaymala). What? What has been said in the Avyakt Vani? Whom should you invoke? Invoke the vijaymala. So, how should we invoke the vijaymala? To invoke the vijaymala means – to ‘call the head of the vijaymala.’ How will you invoke all the honeybees? If you want to call all the honeybees, what should you do? Catch the queen bee, and then all of them would come automatically. So, this is the intellect-like arm. Keep pulling through this intellect-like arm. Whom? The junior mother. If you pull the junior mother, then all the honeybees would come and gather automatically
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PostPosted: 02 Jan 2008
by arjun
Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.792, Audio Cassette No.1278, dated 25.10.07, at Nellore

Clarification of Murli dated 09.02.68

Part-VII-Eng.


... In the scriptures, Krishna is shown to belong to which village? To Gokul. ‘Gou’, what does 'Gou' (cow) mean? Virgins, mothers. What kind of virgins, mothers? Not those virgins, mothers of the world. (But) the virgins, mothers, who were created by Brahma. All those virgins, mothers will come attracted to him numberwise, as per their efforts. So, one must recognize one queen bee. Will the queen bee be recognized first or will the king be recognized first? First, it should be there in the intellect as to who the king is? Who is the Father of this world? What is the name of the highest king of India? (Someone said - Vikramaditya) Vikramaditya came in the Copper Age. How could he have been the highest on high? Narayan. The highest Age, the Age that gives maximum happiness is the Golden Age and whose kingship is famous in the Golden Age? The kingship of Narayan. For that Narayan the story of 'true Narayan' is praised. Which story is narrated in every house? The story of True Narayan (Satya Nayaran kee katha). So, the True Narayan accomplished the task of establishment of the Golden Age on the basis of the power of truth.

So, that True Narayan, who has not been defamed in the scriptures at all; all other deities have been defamed. The True Narayan has not been defamed. Someone may say - the True Narayan has not been defamed and the true Narayan as well as Shankar are one and the same. Call him Shankar or call him True Narayan. Are they the same or are they different? (Someone said - They are different) Are they different? The personality is the same, but Shankar is depicted to be sitting in remembrance. What? He is shown to be sitting in remembrance, i.e. he is doing tapasya (intense meditation). There is a need for tapasya means that he is making effort. What is he doing for the benefit of his soul? He is doing tapasya; he is in remembrance .

Whom does he remember too? He remembers the Father Shiv. He remembers, doesn't he? How does he remember? We remember that - there is the incorporeal Shiv in the corporeal one. So, we remember easily. How does he remember? (Someone said - Shiv) Does he remember Shiv, a point? How will he remember? How does he remember? (Someone said - continous remembrance). Yes. The one in whose intellect it fits that - actually the Father of the world is a corporeal human being; and if he starts fitting it into the intellect of others as well. So, if it fits into the intellect of others, will it not fit into his intellect? Will it fit or not? (Someone said - It will) So, is it easy to remember (the Supreme Soul) within (one's own body) or is it easy to remember within others' body? It is easier to remember within oneself. Is it easy to be in swasthiti (stage of soul consciousness) or is it easy to remember others, the external form? It is easiest to remember the soul. I am a soul; I am a star; I am a light.

So, we children recognize that Supreme Father Supreme Soul, that unlimited Father who is called the God Father; and the people belonging to other religions of the world do not recognize Him. So, look - Will there be a difference between the inheritance of the limited Father and the inheritance of the unlimited Father? There will be a difference of earth and sky (i.e. a world of difference). That one is the Father of one birth and this one is the Father of many births, the one who gives happiness for many births. It is not so that - He gives happiness for just 21 births and then departs.On the basis of the 21 births, the karmic accounts of effort of 63 births are also created. That practice becomes firm. So, there is a lot of difference. You children obtain inheritance from the world God Father, the Teacher. What? He is the God Father of the entire world. He is the Father of Abraham, Buddha, Christ as well and The Knowledge that Abraham, Buddha, Christ have taught as teachers, The Knowledge that the biggest scholars, pundits, teachers have taught in the form of teachers; He is the teacher of all those teachers, i.e. He is the supreme teacher.

So, you will obtain the inheritance from the teacher. Which inheritance is obtained from the teacher? One gets the inheritance of knowledge. Some study very high knowledge and some? .. study less knowledge. Are those who study very high knowledge, the ones who give regard to the teacher or not? They certainly are. What knowledge will a child, who does not give regard to his teacher study? So, there should be regard for the Father as well as the Teacher, and the Sadguru is powerful anyway. If one does not give regard to him, then he is very strict. What? Which is the most strict part? The part of the Father is not strict to that extent; the part of the Teacher is not strict to that extent, but the part of the Sadguru is very strict. It is said that - Guru ka bulava, kaal ka bulava (The call of the Guru is like a call of death). And it is not a matter of those bodily gurus. Whose matter is it? It is a matter of the unlimited Guru. Omshanti.
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PostPosted: 05 Jan 2008
by arjun
Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.790, Audio Cassette No.1276, dated 23.10.07, at Tadepalligudem mini-Madhubans

Clarification of Murli dated 08.02.68

Ref. No.VCD*.


Omshanti. The Vani dated 8th February, 1968 was being narrated. 8.2.68, at the beginning of the third page, a matter about pictures was being discussed. True salvation (sadgati) is caused by listening to Gita from Trimurti God Shiv in the Confluence Age. True salvation is caused by listening from whom? True salvation is caused by listening from Trimurti Shiv. In the path of worship, they say Trimurti Brahma. Is true salvation not caused by listening through Trimurti Brahma? Brahma is shown to have four faces (mukhh). Actually, Trimurti is not of Brahma. Trimurti is of Shiv and Trimurti Shiv Himself is called God. True salvation is caused by listening to Gita from Trimurti God Shiv in the Confluence Age. Krishna did not narrate Gita at all. Call him Krishna or call him Brahma - he is not the one who narrates Gita. Only when one thinks and churns on such points that one can write – by listening directly through whose mouth is true salvation caused and by listening through whose mouth is degradation caused? By listening through the mouth of one, true salvation is caused and by listening through numerous human gurus, degradation is caused.

Actually, human beings can never cause true salvation of other human beings. Why can’t they do so? It is because all human beings have mind [man]. Nobody is peaceful (aman). To control the mind hundred percent is the task of one God Shiv alone. There is only one Trimurti Supreme Father Supreme Soul Shiv. If He is only one, then why is He called Trimurti? So, there are three personalities, are there not? How can he be (only) one personality? There is only one, who is teacher as well as a guru and a Father as well, in the same form. Are they not in three forms? Actually, all the three forms are merged in the same form.

Now in this elevated Confluence Age (Purushottam Sangamyug) He is causing the true salvation of everyone. There should be a small write-up on a card, that is all. One should write on the top – Godly invitation to get transformed from Iron-Aged Cowrie-like sinful human being to a Golden Aged diamond-like pure deity. By writing like this people will happily come forward to understand. The Shivjayanti of the Father, the bestower of true salvation, is celebrated. The words should be very clear and it should be concise . People read so many scriptures of the path of devotion. Nobody has achieved true salvation through those numerous scriptures till date. And you can cause true salvation of anyone just by showing a card.

They keep reading scriptures, racking their brains, and here you get the jeevanmukti (liberation from vices while being alive) from the unlimited Father in a second. Those who become Father’s children and obtain knowledge from Him; obtain knowledge from whom? They obtain knowledge from the Father, but not directly. Those who become Father’s [children] and then obtain knowledge from the Father will certainly get jeevanmukti. They will achieve mukti (i.e. being liberated from the physical and subtle body in the Soul World for a certain period) and then obtain jeevanmukti. Then, when the time arrives, according the effort made by them, they will go to jeevanmukti.

Everyone certainly gets jeevanmukti. Some get it for one birth and some for 21 births. Some for 20 births, some for 19 births, and some for 2 births. One achieves jeevanmukti numberwise according to the effort made. But everyone gets mukti alike. Whether one comes in the beginning (of The Cycle) or later on, everyone certainly gets jeevanmukti. Whether one comes in the beginning of the Golden Age, or in the end of the Iron Age, even then everyone definitely gets mukti, but there is a difference in the jeevanmukti and the position that is achieved (by everyone). First jeevanmukti (liberation from vices while leading one’s life) and then jeevanbandh (life of bondages of vices). Whichever soul comes from the Father’s home, will it enter into bondages or will it lead a life free from vices (i.e.jeevanmukti)? Every soul is bound to get jeevanmukti in the first birth. Later on it may become bound in bondages. So, if one imbibes such matters, even then a lot of service is possible.

Some (children) get very nice invitation . Daughters write – You have refreshed us very nicely. Now refresh us once again. They are called. Even then if they do not go, then they are called – the greatest idiots (kambakht). One should never say no to Godly service. One should do service, shouldn’t one? If one does not serve , then one will certainly be called just an idiot . If one has to achieve a higher rank, then one should become a little clever. One should not become completely ignorant (besamajh). Only those who are completely ignorant, dull headed, say no to Godly service. One should go and uplift many. As regards eating, drinking and sleeping throughout the day – even animals do that. What is the use of being born as human beings?And they take birth only as human beings. . Human beings do not take birth as animals. Even then it is said – animal-intellect, stone-like intellect.

Now the Father comes and transforms us from animals to deities. If one does not recognize the unlimited Father then they will be called just animals . They are not aware, that is why they disobey the unlimited Father. One should never say no to Godly service. They will be called worse than animals. Even animals recognize their Father. Here it is about human beings. It will be definitely said – this one has not recognised the unlimited Father. If they know the Father, they will certainly give the introduction to others as well. Why? He is the unlimited Father; He is the Father of the unlimited human world and He is the Father of all the unlimited souls that exist. He is the Father of all souls, but He does not have a body of his own. So, He has to take the support (aadhaar) of a body to do service. The support of a corporeal body is required. Otherwise, how will a point serve the human world? So, one must think – let our penny also be invested in this Godly service through this body. If one does not give the introduction to anyone, then it is as if they do not possess knowledge at all. They are like animals. A lot of explanation is given, but they are not fortunate enough
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PostPosted: 06 Jan 2008
by arjun
Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.790, Audio Cassette No.1276, dated 23.10.07, at Tadepalligudem mini-Madhubans

Clarification of Murli dated 08.02.68

Ref. No.VCD*.


... If you are the children of the benefactor (kalyaankaari) Father, then you should cause benefit (to others), shouldn’t you ? The blood (i.e. sanskar) of the Father will be visible through the child or will it not be visible? Here the Father is subtle. He does not take birth through a womb, but He is a benefactor Father. Does He cause benefit by remaining only in a point-like stage or does He cause benefit by taking the support (aadhaar) of a body? He takes the support (of a body). So, one should help in Godly service, shouldn’t one? Otherwise, the Father will also say – They (i.e. the children) tell for namesake – we are ShivBaba’s children. Everyone is a child of Shiv..The point like souls – worms, insects, animals and birds are all the children of the Father. There is a soul in insects too, but do they do service? Can they do Godly service? Only a human being can do Godly service. Only a human being can cause benefit to others.

If someone says no for Godly service in spite of being a human being – will they be called the children of ShivBaba? They do not cause benefit at all. What does Shiv mean? Benefactor (kalyaankaari). So, will worms and insects be called the children of Shiv? They too are souls, but what do they do? What do worms and insects, animals and birds do? Eating and sleeping; they do not do anything else; and if someone does not do Godly service in spite of being a human being, if he keeps eating, sleeping, then what will he be called? Worse than animals. They cannot cause benefit to anyone. Be it prosperous persons, or poor ones, one should cause benefit to everyone. What? If a prosperous person comes, then they give course with a lot of love and affection. They will serve them a lot; they will provide hospitality. If a poor person comes, if one observes that he is a beggar, and if he starts telling – explain something to me also . Then if they scornfully chase them away, then will it be said that they are the children of the Father, i.e. souls? Do they have a soul conscious stage? Are they human souls?

Here the Father says – I am a patron of the poor (Garib niwaaz). I have special mercy for the poor . The prosperous persons remain in their own intoxication. They are egotists. Only the poor ones will grasp (The Knowledge) first. The Father does not come as a patron of the prosperous ones. Does He not come ? Ask the so-called Brahmakumars. In whom does He come first? Does He come in the prosperous Dada Lekhraj or does He come in a poor one? What will they say? Then they will say – He comes in a prosperous person, but what does the Murli say? I am a patron of the poor ones. I come and give the emperoroship of the world to the poor . Only the poor will take (The Knowledge). The poor have a lot of free time to listen to and narrate the Godly knowledge. The prosperous ones do not have time at all. Their part itself is like this in the drama. Like what? That it will emerge from their mouth – We do not have time for knowledge, for The Knowledge related service, or for any kind of Godly service at all.

If these prosperous persons come now, then a lot many will come following them. They will see, these people are also telling – God of the Gita is the incorporeal Shiv. The corporeal Krishna is not the God of the Gita. Then they will think a little. God alone is the bestower of true salvation (sadgati daataa). They will understand that. Then they will come and bow themselves . If the glory spreads now, then one cannot imagine what would happen. Just do not ask. You shake the sanyasis and those in big positions because yours is a Godly position (Ishwariya martaba). Do you shake or do you make the big ones to shake? If you shake yourself, you will be called – anishchaybuddhi (the one who loses faith).

You shake those in big positions; so what is the glory for that in the scriptures? Angad fixed his foot in the court of Ravan. It is an indication of the intellect-like feet . It is an indication of the one who has faith. The world may shake and the world may make you shake, but you cannot shake through your intellect-like feet because yours is a Godly position. They have demoniac positions. What is their position? Today they have a position. Tomorrow they may suffer a heartfailure. That is no position at all. Those who understand nicely, cause benefit of the self and others as well. Those who do not cause benefit to themselves can hardly ever cause benefit to others.

The Father certainly explains nicely, but in spite of explaining nicely, some people find these gems of knowledge like chillies. What is this? They are the same arrows. They cause injury to Ravan and occupy the intellect-like quiver (tarkas) of Ram. Is it filled with only one arrow or is it full of arrows? It is filled with arrows. For some they cause happiness and for some they cause sorrow. The Father is a benefactor and he is a benefactor of everyone. What does it mean? Is He a benefactor of everyone? Is He a benefactor of the worms and insects, animals and birds as well ? When human souls gets reformed, then the whole atmosphere gets reformed through the connection of the intellect (buddhiyog) of human souls and when the atmosphere gets reformed, then all the animals and birds, living beings etc. are reformed. So, He is a bestower of true salvation upon everyone.

You are also the helpers (madadgaar) of that one Father. Now you understand – That is an influence of the path of devotion and the influence of the path of true salvation is just one. Those who are under the influence of the path of true salvation are called Maharathis (great warriors).. One should ask oneself – am I a Maharathi? Do I do service like a particular person? Those who are foot soldiers (pyaadey) will never be able to narrate knowledge to anyone. They will not be able to cause benefit to anyone. Then why should they call themselves the children of the benefactor Father?

The Father will cause you to make effort, will He not? Will he make them make effort or will he make them swaarthi (selfish)? If they make effort, they are the children of the Father. Purushaarthi itself means the one who makes effort for the sake of the soul. Whatever he speaks will be for soul. Whatever actions he performs through the organs will be for the benefit of souls. Whatever thoughts he creates will be for the benefit of souls. Then he will be called – a child of the benefactor Father. The Father will not leave His children cold [dull/not doing any effort]. If they were left cold, they would do even more disservice. In the service of this gyaan Yagya, one should sacrifice one's bones too. But if one just eats, drinks, sleeps - is this service? One should think – I will go and become a praja (subject). The sign of becoming a king is not visible. Or else they may become servants and maid servants
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. The words in brackets are words added by the translator for better understanding of the translation in English.

PostPosted: 07 Jan 2008
by arjun
Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.790, Audio Cassette No.1276, dated 23.10.07, at Tadepalligudem mini-Madhubans

Clarification of Murli dated 08.02.68

Ref. No.VCD*.



... The Father says – make effort and get transformed from a man to Narayan. Even the Father would be happy to see the worthy children. Third page of the Vani dated 8th February, 1968. The Father will be happy; He will see – this one is a very worthy child. Even the lokik Father observes – He is worthy of achieving a big position. So, the Father will be happy to see (his child), will he not? The Paarlokik Father also does the same. If the Father does not reform the children, then people would say – you don’t have any caretaker. The unlimited Father also says – I have come to make you master of the world, now you make others as well. What will you achieve by just filling your stomach? Just say this. If you say this, then the intellect will start working, and then remember ShivBaba. Even while eating food if you keep reminding others of ShivBaba, then everyone will say – “this one loves ShivBaba a lot.” This much is easy. What is the harm in doing this much? Then it would become a habit. Then one would eat and study at the same time. One must imbibe divine qualities.

The task of the Father, the teacher, the Guru is to teach. He does not do anything else. It is even sung – whether you beat me or love me…; and Baba will say through this body itself, will He not? He is incognito, but one must respect them too. Whom? ‘Them’ (inka) means who? And ‘this one’ (iska) means who? ‘This one’ means only Brahma and ‘them’ means Brahma and the Father. One must respect both. Now everyone is Iron-Aged, sinful, cowrie-like and degraded. Everyone calls – O purifier of the sinful ones, come! So, certainly they are sinful, are they not? Even Shankaracharya worships Shiv, because Shiv alone is the purifier of the sinful ones. For half a cycle people do Bhakti . Then, later God comes. No one knows about this calculation. The Father explains – Bhakti itself causes degradation.

One has achieved degradaton while doing Bhakti for 63 births. Does Bhakti come from one or from many? Bhakti comes from many and knowledge comes from one. So, many caused degradation and one causes the true salvation (sadgati). By doing Yagya, tap (intense meditation), daan (donation), etc. that is mentioned in the scriptures one cannot find me . They went on performing Yagya. Which Yagya did they perform? Did they perform material Yagya or the Gyan Yagya (i.e. Yagya of knowledge)? Nobody knows about knowledge at all. Whatever they have studied, read in the scriptures, they keep narrating the same and scriptures have been written by human beings with little knowledge (alpagya manushya). How can the true salvation be caused through the scriptures written by human beings? Will only the God of the Gita cause sadgati or will human beings cause? So, they keep organizing material yagyas. They hang upside down in the name of penance (tap). They stand on one leg. They think – we are doing intense meditation (tapasya). The Father says – this is hathyog (obstinate Yoga).

They give donations. They think – it is very good to donate, but whom do they give? They give to the sinful ones. If they give to the sinful ones, will they become sinful or pure? They will become sinful only. So, the Father says – One cannot find me through penance, chanting, donations, noble acts, etc. The Gita is also included in it. That Gita has been written by human beings and in that the name of a human being has been inserted in the form of Gitapati God [God, the husband of the Gita]. Krishna’s name has been inserted. Krishna is a deity complete in 16 celestial degrees. He is not God. And the one who makes even Krishna (as Krishna), is he a deity or God? (Someone said – God). Does God make Krishna (as Krishna)? The creator Father who gives birth to him in the Golden Age will not be God, although he will be a titleholder. What? Lakshmi and Narayan get the title of Bhagwan-Bhagwati, but they are not God. When God comes He makes us equal to Himself and then departs. So, nobody can achieve sadgati by reading these scriptures. Will Sadgati (true salvation) be caused the truth or through false matters? Satyug is established only through the truth. The land of falsehood gets established by listening to false scriptures. Only one narrates the truth and rest all narrate false things.

The Gita, the Vedas, the Upnishads – all these belong to the path of worship. Why? The Gita that is being found has also been written by human beings. Human beings have themselves inserted the name of corporeal Krishna in it. The Vedas which have been written have also been written, narrated by Ved Vyas. God did not narrate. The Upanishads etc. are all the clarifications of the Vedas, which have been given by human beings. So, all these are scriptures belonging to the path of worship. The Father teaches the children easy Rajyog and knowledge for sadgati. You achieve kingship through this knowledge and Yoga. Nobody in the world can cause those attainments which God causes. Nobody has taught The Knowledge of kingship. When God comes, He establishes the kingship of kings. Human beings established the unlawful rule of subject over subjects. The very name of that which God teaches is - easy Rajyog. He transforms human beings to deities. There is no matter of books etc. in this as well. Books contain limited knowledge. Whatever knowledge God teaches cannot be bound in papers. There is a praise; what? Prepare pens out of all the jungles and exhaust all the pens by writing with them; make ink out of all the ocean and dry the entire ink of the ocean by writing with it, even then this Godly knowledge is not going to end . It attains such an expanse . How can this knowledge be bound in books? Teacher enables one to study to to make them attain a position.

You children must follow that. Tell everyone – Remember ShivBaba. He is the Father of all of us souls. The sins would get burnt only by remembering ShivBaba. What? The sins would not get burnt by remembering any other greatest human being. Why not? It is because as the company we keep, so shall we become. All the human beings of this world perform opposite actions. What is hundred percent Shrimat, who is God Father; that God says – Nobody else knows what I am, how I am and in what form I play my part. The Father Himself comes and gives His introduction. Human beings cannot give the introduction of God at all. The sins would get burnt only by remembering that one
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PostPosted: 08 Jan 2008
by arjun
Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.790, Audio Cassette No.1276, dated 23.10.07, at Tadepalligudem mini-Madhubans

Clarification of Murli dated 08.02.68

Ref. No.VCD*.


.....One should progress by cautioning each other. In which matter should one caution (each other)? Arey, in whose thoughts are you busy? Wasteful/negative thinking (parchintan) about others is the root cause of downfall (patan). Complaining about this one, complaining about that one, complaining to this one, and complaining to that one – there is no benefit in it. The one Father has come. The bestower of true salvation upon everyone has come. The journey of remembrance will only make the entire world pure. The more one remembers the more one would cause benefit to the self and others.

Cook in remembrance; then it will also become powerful. So only is your Brahma Bhojan. Perhaps one will get such food in the end. Will one not receive it now? Why can’t one get it now? Why will one get it in the end? (Someone said – the actual remembrance) Yes. Even now they keep developing faith and keep losing faith repeatedly. If they lose faith, on whom do they lose faith? If they lose faith on the Father; then they lose faith on the Chariot as well. Then how can it be Brahma Bhojan? For example Baba says – Cook while remaining in the remembrance of ShivBaba. When those devotees cook, they keep chanting Ram, Ram. They keep chanting Ram, Ram through the mouth, they keep praising Ram, but they do not know anything as to what did Ram come and do and when did he do it?

People give the donation of the name of Ram, don't they? Well, what is going to happen by giving the donation of a name? When does the name become famous? When someone has performed a task, his name becomes famous. Certainly Ram must have performed that task, which nobody else in the world has performed. So, they give the donation of the name of Ram so much. You should remember this in the intellect repeatedly. What? That- what is the occupation of Ram? What is the business of Ram? The entire knowledge should remain in the intellect. The Father has The Knowledge of the beginning, middle and end of the entire creation, does He not? The highest on high God. If you remember such a highest on high, then you will achieve a high position. The percentage in which you will remember that one highest on high, you will achieve the highest on high post to that extent. And if the thoughts of the lowest of low also keep coming to the mind in between, then one would suffer degradation of his position, would one not? Some keep talking wasteful matters throughout the day. When one has found the one highest on high, when one has recognized Him, then why should one remember anyone else?

The Father says - Remember me; then one should leave all other matters. This is unadulterated Yoga and the one with whom one has to establish unadulterated Yoga, the one who is to be remembered in an unadulterated manner, then will we listen to The Knowledge from others? If we listen to The Knowledge from one, The Knowledge would become unadulterated. The Father has explained - If you do not remember, then tie a knot . One should certainly make efforts for one's progress, to achieve a high position. Teacher is only one. It is ShivBaba who makes us teacher. You are guides (pandey). The work of guides is to show the path. Otherwise, you are not guides; you are goondas (i.e. ruffians). What are goondas? They are the bandits, who loot and kill. They will not be called Brahmins as well. Those who loot and kill are Shudras. Their task is lowest of low.

You did not have so much knowledge earlier. Many say like this - Earlier, it was as if we had knowledge worth pie paise. That will certainly happen. They keep studying according to drama like the previous cycle . Then, even in the next cycle they will study in a similar manner. They will study The Knowledge at the same pace in which they study now. Baba keeps explaining everyday, but if there is a hole in the intellect, then, all the reading, writing, explanation would flow away. What is a hole? If there is a hole then one would not be able to give knowledge to anyone to the slightest extent. Everything would flow away. If an invitation comes from anywhere, then one should run to do Godly service immediately. There is no question of asking in case of service and donations. One should not even ask, but if it is not in the fate, then what can one do?

Later on, you will have visions of everything. It does not take time to have visions. Baba started having visions immediately. This one would become a particular king; this one would wear this dress. In the beginning lots of visions used to be caused. Whatever happened in the beginning will happen in the end as well. Later on, in the end, you will continue to have visions. Baba will also say - You were explained so much; you did not listen. It is drama. Even then a solution is given; one is cautioned. After that it is their fate. OK, remembrance, love and goodmorning to the sweet, long lost and now found children.
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Note: The words in italics are words in Hindi. Some words have been added by the translator in the brackets to make the translation more meaningful.

PostPosted: 10 Jan 2008
by arjun
Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.393, Audio Cassette No.879, dated 15.02.06, at Yatragachi (Calcutta)

Clarification of Murli dated 03.02.67

Part-I-Eng.


The morning Class dated 3rd February, 1967. I come to transform the old world into a new world. It has been said - I come in the oldest world and in the oldest actor. I come in the one, who becomes the oldest, sinful, degraded; I come in the old world, make it a new world and in the new world it was their kingdom. Towards whom was the indication given? 'Their' means whose? There was the kingdomof Lakshmi-Narayan. Their kingdom does not exist in the old one. They do exist here, but it is not their kingdom. It should definitely be there again. If it was in the beginning then it should certainly exist in the end.

You children have understood The Cycle. This cycle keeps repeating in the same manner. There are four main religions. Which? Deity, Islam, Buddhist and Christian. . At present the deity religion does not exist. Nobody knows his religion, especially the souls belonging to the deity religion; and the souls belonging to other religions know about their religion. They also know about their religious Father. They also know about their religious land nicely. You have forgotten your religious Father. When the Father comes and gives you the introduction, you come to know. Why don't they know? It is because they have become daivi karmabhrasht (one who has stopped performing divine actions) and daivi dharmabhrasht They have become unrighteous from the point of view of divine karma and they have also become unrighteous from the point of view of divine inculcations. Now He is teaching you to become dharmashreshtha (belonging to the righteous religion) and karmashreshtha (one who performs righteous actions) again. Which karma will make you righteous deities and which inculcations will make you deities?

One must inculcate (virtues) in practical life. So, one should pay attention to oneself that - do we perform any demoniac actions? Do any bad thoughts emerge in the intellect due to Maya? If bad thoughts emerge in the intellect then what should be done to such thoughts? They should be merged because one has received The Knowledge. One must merge bad thoughts and emerge good thoughts. You have to do this yourself. I just come to narrate knowledge. One must check - Do I have any bad vision? When you see that this one has a bad vision or bad thoughts emerge, then, it is in the intellect that - we were deities, isn’t it?. So, one must immediately correct the bad thoughts, the bad vision. One must immediately alert each other. One must not remain in the company of those who have a bad vision. They should be alerted. This bad vision, bad thoughts emerge in you because of the entry of Maya in you.

If one remembers some other bodily being while sitting in Yoga, then one should think - Certainly Maya has attacked me. I am committing a sin. Am I committing a sin just by the emergence of the thought? Is a sin committed when a bad thought emerges or a thought of any other bodily being emerges while sitting in Yoga? If we are sitting in a collective remembrance, then a bigger sin is committed because one has spoiled the atmosphere . Our splash [influence] (chheenta) will fall on others as well; so, a lot of purity is required in this and one should also speak pure words. One should not speak bad words. Do not do such discussions. One should not say that - I was just joking. I said this jokingly. No, one should not speak bad words even jokingly. This also becomes harmful. One should not indulge in such humour, which emanates an odour of vices. One should never do so. One should remain very careful.The second page of the Vani dated 3rd February, 1967. You know that - These Naga people never think about vices and they even live away from vicious people. Now-a-days, because of being degraded, even their vision gets stuck in someone or the other. They do not indulge in vices. They arrange for medicines. They eat medicines and remain naked. Otherwise human beings can never remain naked. Why cannot they remain naked? Naga people remain naked, but it has been said for them that - they eat medicines. They eat medicines and make their organs powerless/vigourless (nistej); only then they remain naked.


Human beings are very body conscious. This inconstancy (of bodily organs) of anyone cannot be removed permanently except through Yoga. The medicine will have a temporary effect; then the effect of the medicine will vanish. The biggest enemy, lust is such that if one is not in Yoga, and if one looks at someone , then one would certainly become inconstant. The vision will become inconstant (chalaaymaan). One must test oneself, musn't one? If one remains only in the remembrance of the Father, then no kind of disease would come. When does one become diseased? What is the main reason that has been mentioned for becoming diseased? The thoughts of others also emerge in between the thoughts of the Father. If there is adulterous remembrance, if adulterous thoughts emerge, then the disease would also certainly come. If one becomes constant in the remembrance of one , then all the diseases would start ending. The diseases of men are of a different kind and the diseases of women are of a different kind. One will never get this disease by remaining in Yoga.

There is not any kind of dirt in the Golden Age. Neither M.C. happens, nor does discharge etc. occur. Why does it not occur? Why does it occur here and why does it not occur there? There must be some reason. M.C. does not occur in women and discharge does not occur in men (there). Why does it not occur? Arey, it is a simple matter. When the end time comes ,while doing practice here, where would our intellect have reached? [While practicing here, where would our intellect have reached when the end time comes?] It would have reached above; so, as the thoughts in the end, so shall be our fate for 21 births. Wherever and whatever number of births we will take, whatever number of births whoever is supposed to take out of the 21 births in the Golden Age and the Silver Age, the intellect will remain above in the forehead, towards the soul. The soul conscious stage would become firm. The intellect will not get attracted towards the lower organs, it will not get attracted towards the unrighteous organs; then how will unrighteous actions be performed? How will the intellect work in an unrighteous manner, how will the vibrations become [unrighteous]? How will the vision become sinful? It will not become (sinful) at all
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Extracts of PBK Murlis - questions

PostPosted: 11 Jan 2008
by arjun
Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs

VCD* No.393, Audio Cassette No.879, dated 15.02.06, at Yatragachi (Calcutta)

Clarification of Murli dated 03.02.67

Part-II-Eng.


... There will not be inconstancy (chanchaltaa) of Ravan there. What? What is the inconstancy of Ravan and what is the constancy (sthirtaa) of Ram? Give an example of Ravan’s inconstancy and give an example of Ram’s constancy. (A Brother said – Baba, Ravan is unrighteous) And what about Ram? (A Brother said – Baba, Ram is righteous) How? Arey, Ram’s intellect thinks only about one Sita. What? Ram is called Maryadas Purushottam (highest among all men in following the code of conduct) and Ravan’s dignity is not focused on one. He is adulterous (vyabhichaari) – he wants many women; so the intellect becomes inconstant. When the intellect becomes inconstant, it also becomes dirty.

So, one should check oneself – Do I get discharged? Do I suffer from night-emission (swapna-dosh)? If it happens, then certainly there is some shortcoming in our Yoga. Our remembrance has not achieved a mature stage till now. The stage should be very firm. All these diseases will stop through the power of Yoga. What? When a mature stage of Yoga is achieved then all these kinds of diseases will stop. When thoughts become righteous, the diseases will stop as well. So, the thoughts are seeds. If someone takes a step against the Shrimat even at the level of thoughts, then the disease certainly starts. The stage should be very firm. One should understand firmly that – all diseases would end through the power of Yoga. But a lot of hard work is involved in it. Why is hard work involved in it? Why is hard work involved? Hard work is involved because – one has suffered this disease for 63 births, this disease of vices has been prevailing since 63 births, then, how will it end suddenly?

For example, Vaidyas (Traditional Ayurvedic Doctors) say, don’t they – your disease is very old? When the disease is old, then the treatment will also (someone said something) no, it will go on for a long duration. You will have to receive treatment for the illness for a long time. It is not that you will be cured in two-four days. What do those who practice English medicines[Allopathy] do? They immediately give an injection ; relieve someone of the fever and the matter ends. That disease comes back in another form again. So, the Father says – I end it everlastingly. But it takes time. It involves hard work. One must definitely make effort, mustn’t one? This involves a lot of hard work. Obtaining kingship is not as easy as visiting a maternal aunt’s house that – the child got angry (with his parents) and he went and sat in the house of a maternal aunt. What? Even here, when someone becomes displeased with The Knowledge, when they get defeated, then where do they go and sit? They go and sit in the house of maternal aunt Maya. One must definitely make effort, mustn’t one? One should not think that – that is all; I shall get whatever is written in my fate.

If one does not inculcate (virtues/knowledge) at all, then it means that they are worthy of achieving a post worth pie-paisa. There are many subjects, aren’t there? There is (a subject of) drawing, there is sports, etc.; people certainly obtain marks. They are common subjects and there are subjects here too. One will certainly receive something or the other. But if one is not firm in Yoga, then one cannot obtain emperorship. What? One may be very good in inculcation (dhaarnaa); one might be doing very good service and a lot of service; one may be very sharp in knowledge as well, but if one is not firm in Yoga, then one cannot obtain kingship. What is praised? One obtains kingship of the world through the power of Yoga. What does Yoga mean? Yoga means love. True love, firm love with one. If the intellect gets diverted towards others also, then it means that the love is not firm to some extent or the other. One will obtain emperorship only when one does service. If the intellect keeps getting diverted to others, then one would keep getting influenced by them and disservice will keep happening to some extent or the other. Where there is manmat (one's own opinion) there will not be attainments and where there is only Shrimat (Godly direction), where the intellect is focussed only on one , then there will be attainment. So, if one does service, one can obtain emperorship. If one does disservice, then one cannot obtain emperorship, the emperorship of the world. A lot of hard work is required for that.

It does not fit into the intellect of many at all. It is as if their food does not get digested at all (i.e. they are not strong enough to digest The Knowledge). They do not have the courage to attain a high post. This will also be termed a disease , won’t it? One should ignore everything else and become busy in the remembrance of the spiritual Father. One should show the path to others while being in remembrance and should become the blind person's walking stick. You know the path. You have The Knowledge of the Creator and the creation. So, because of having this knowledge the thoughts of mukti (liberation) and jeevanmukti (liberation in life) keep revolving in your intellect. A vast difference emerges in the stage of the maharathi (highest effort-making) children because they are numberwise. Many become very wealthy. And look, many are very poor. There is certainly a difference in the position of kings too, is not there? But, yes there is no sorrow there because of kingship. But there is a difference in the property. There is happiness due to property itself.

The more one remains in Yoga, the better will be the health. What? What would one get from knowledge? The wealth would be good and what would be good through Yoga? The health would be good. So, one must work hard. It means that when the soul becomes powerful, concentrated, then the body would also become healthy and if The Knowledge is deeply entrenched in the soul, then what would be its result? The gems of knowledge here would become physical gems there. The behaviour of many souls is like that of ignorant persons. Such ignorant persons can not benefit anyone. When test takes place then everyone comes to know as to who will pass with how many marks. Then, at that time one will have to cry in despair that - Look, both Baap and Dada used to explain to us so much. Both Baap and Dada used to explain? Did they explain separately? Both means that the souls of Ram and Krishna play a part in combined form as well . So, both of them used to explain so much; even then we did not study. We performed such acts
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. The words in brackets are words added by the translator for better understanding of the translation in English.