Andrey wrote:If we could relate our experience of what benefit will it be, is Shiv himself relates His experience about how it is being bodiless, can we not become of the same stage? ... Remember me in this body. (24-12-70 pg-3) ... (13-5-69 pg-1) ... Those who remember Father above (in the Soul World) follow the path of worship because they do not know the occupation.(14-10-68 pg-1)
Thank you BK Dimok for your honest, personal experience. You are a good example of your beliefs.
Nice side-step Andrey but it is just the usual slippery snake move to avoid answering a straight question with a straight answer. My feeling is that this reveals that you are not having any spiritual experiences beyond a sort of Bhakti love and devotion for Virendra Dev Dixit. Do you feel weightless or bodilessness in meditation? Do you experience the seed-like stage either in the body or out of it? Do you experience the Subtle Regions, either up there or down here? Yes or no? What is your experience?
The same question goes out to all PBKs but is specifically directed at Andrey because the willful ignoring of a reasonable question is disrespectful. It is increasing becoming like speaking to a politician who never answers one's question but just pumps out "party policy" all the time with the Yukti of "if you throw enough, some of it will stick". It is bad PR for what PBK stands for and no benefit for either the giver or the receiver. It is just Murli bashing, as we used to say. Or "dancing on books", as the Tibetan Buddhist call it.
Without see the whole of the 14-10-68 Murli, I must say that I think either you or your Murli dealer is faking the evidence. No Murlis has ever said, "
I am Shiv, remember me in the bodily form of Virendra Dev Dixit". Many Murlis have often said encouraged going up to the Soul World and Remembering the Incorporeal. And so, given that you say Virendra Dev Dixit reuses to state that he is god, this largely has to be a construction of some PBKs. If this is a PBK version of a Murli then you will have to state so.
Additionally, please qualify the 1969 and 1970 Murlis. The first looks like to be a Sakar Revised to me - and so would be BapDada [ Shiva in BB talking about BB's body ] and not Virendra Dev Dixit. If it is [allegedly] Shiva Baba in Virendra Dev Dixit speaking, then you have to say.
Can you put the Murlis up in the Encyclopedia or Up/Download section so that we can all read it and check the context?
Thanks.