Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs
VCD* No.770, Audio Cassette No.1256, dated 29.09.07, at Nagpur
Clarification of Murli dated 21.01.68 (for BKs)
Ref. No.VCD*.,
... Which tree is this? Is it an incorporeal tree or is it a tree of corporeal human souls or is it a physical tree? Which tree is it? (Someone said – It is a tree of incorporeal souls) Who is the seed of The Tree of incorporeal souls and who is the seed of The Tree of human souls? [Someone said, Prajapita] And that incorporeal Shiv has come in Prajapita. Then he is called – 'Vrikshapati'. Then people come to know him that he is the vrikshapati. Prior to that, nobody even knows him. So, it has been said – Now God vrikshapati sits and teaches you. Who is called God? The one who has been termed as the lucky Chariot because of being the most fortunate one in the entire world.
The second page of the Vani dated 21st January, 1968. On the basis of their stage, children can understand themselves, under the influence of which planet are we? There are 9 planets. There are 9 sages. 9 clans emerge from them. 9 categories of Brahmins are said to be there and nine religions have been established in the world on the basis of those 9 categories. And there are 9 main religious founders of the 9 religions. So, now in the Confluence Age,the children can understand that – under whose influence are we? To whichever religion one belongs, he would accept the versions of (the person belonging to) that religion only and he will not accept the versions of anyone else. Even if God Himself descends (in front of them), if one belongs to other religion, then he will not accept even the versions of God.
So, you can understand - are we under the influence of vrikshapati, under the influence of Rahu or under the influence of which planet? Have we found a place in Baba’s heart or not? If we are in Baba’s heart, then whose influence will it be called? In that case, it would be said – influence (dasha) of vrikshapati. They know – this Baba alone will occupy the throne and we are in Baba’s heart. When we have climbed the Father’s heart; then we will certainly sit on the Father’s throne as well. Here in the Confluence (Age) it is the heart throne and there in the new world it will be the throne of kingship. Some feel – although we are the children, (although) we are definitely the children of the Father, (although) we are certainly Suryavanshis, but we have not climbed on to Father’s heart. We are not able to fullfil the hopes of the Father’s heart which he has pinned on us.
... So they will realize that we are not sitting on the heart throne. They are indeed the children, they can understand. It means that they will definitely achieve the position of Suryavanshi praja[subjects in the sun dynasty], but they will not perform any task. The expectation that God Father has from the children– the children should become serviceable, they should bring fame to the Father, they do not perform that task and show. Give them food and water, but they will not perform any task. They live in Father’s house. They even study everyday in the Father’s house, they eat, they drink. I shall eat with you, I shall play with you, and I shall remain in your company in every breath. They do everything. Everything is available to them, but they are unable to do the Godly service that they should do. Therefore, what will they become in the end? They will become servants in the end.
If they do not work hard here while living under the protection (chatrachaya) of the Father, then they will have to work hard there. What? In the eyes of the world, they appear to have become the children of the Father. We have become the children of God or that we have surrendered, we have completely surrendered, but internally they feel – we eat, we drink, we sleep, but we are of no use to the Father. So, what will be its result? What will be its result there? They will have to work hard there. Where? In the Golden Age? Will there be labour in the Golden Age? All the labour is done by the nature. So, it is not the question of the Golden Age or the Silver Age. To which time does it pertain? One will have to work very hard in the 63 births of the Copper Age and the Iron Age.
I will immediately ask – how many (souls) have you made equal to yourself? Brahmani works hard to bring many (here). Brahmani thinks that – if I take them in front of the Father, then the Father will refresh them because the Father is a Supreme Teacher, isn’t He? First of all is the supreme knowledgeful God and at the second number is this one. Who? Who used to be pointed out by saying ‘this one’? A hint used to be given about Brahma. At the first number is the Supreme knowledgeful. When will one be called knowledgeful? If he is in the form of a point, if He is just a point, whose name is Shiv, then will someone call him knowledgeful or is He called the ocean of knowledge, knowledgeful when He enters the corporeal medium? When He enters the corporeal, when He narrates The Knowledge, then He is called knowledgeful and in the second number is – this Brahma. Brahma means? Dada Lekhraj, whose 84th birth is ‘Brahma’, the one who shows knowledge in his inculcations (dharana). The Knowledge is not (just) in words. Who speaks through him? The words are of the point of light Shiv. That is why He just shows inculcation/assimilation (of virtues). The inculcation of a senior mother in Brahma. Then, when does He come in the form of words?
There is one such form too, whom nobody can confront in the matter of speech. Is that (form) a male deity (devtaa) or a female deity (devi)? (Someone said – she is a devi) Which devi is it? ‘Vaak Devi’. Devi of ‘Vaak’, i.e. speech. What is the name? Jagdamba Saraswati. When the same Jagdamba becomes degraded, when she becomes a destroyer (sanhaar kaarini), then her tongue is visible outside. There cannot be anyone sharper than her in words. She is also a mother. Just as there is the World Father (Jagadpita), similarly there is the Mother of the World and the form of Brahma, which is a male body, is not worshipped, but the soul which enters in the body of a mother, that body is worshipped. It is worshipped in the form of Jagdamba as well as in the form of a destroyer of demons, ‘Mahakali’. So, in the second number is this mother.
These are very wonderful matters. Human beings do not know even a single thing. They do not know even a single thing and they do not know only one thing. Which matter do they not know? Which special thing do they not know? There is one special matter which the human beings do not know. Earlier we children also did not know. (Someone said – God of Gita ...) Yes. They do not know that – how God comes and establishes the new world ...(to be continued)
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. Some words have been added in the brackets by the translator for better understanding of the translation.
VCD* No.770, Audio Cassette No.1256, dated 29.09.07, at Nagpur
Clarification of Murli dated 21.01.68 (for BKs)
Ref. No.VCD*.,
... Which tree is this? Is it an incorporeal tree or is it a tree of corporeal human souls or is it a physical tree? Which tree is it? (Someone said – It is a tree of incorporeal souls) Who is the seed of The Tree of incorporeal souls and who is the seed of The Tree of human souls? [Someone said, Prajapita] And that incorporeal Shiv has come in Prajapita. Then he is called – 'Vrikshapati'. Then people come to know him that he is the vrikshapati. Prior to that, nobody even knows him. So, it has been said – Now God vrikshapati sits and teaches you. Who is called God? The one who has been termed as the lucky Chariot because of being the most fortunate one in the entire world.
The second page of the Vani dated 21st January, 1968. On the basis of their stage, children can understand themselves, under the influence of which planet are we? There are 9 planets. There are 9 sages. 9 clans emerge from them. 9 categories of Brahmins are said to be there and nine religions have been established in the world on the basis of those 9 categories. And there are 9 main religious founders of the 9 religions. So, now in the Confluence Age,the children can understand that – under whose influence are we? To whichever religion one belongs, he would accept the versions of (the person belonging to) that religion only and he will not accept the versions of anyone else. Even if God Himself descends (in front of them), if one belongs to other religion, then he will not accept even the versions of God.
So, you can understand - are we under the influence of vrikshapati, under the influence of Rahu or under the influence of which planet? Have we found a place in Baba’s heart or not? If we are in Baba’s heart, then whose influence will it be called? In that case, it would be said – influence (dasha) of vrikshapati. They know – this Baba alone will occupy the throne and we are in Baba’s heart. When we have climbed the Father’s heart; then we will certainly sit on the Father’s throne as well. Here in the Confluence (Age) it is the heart throne and there in the new world it will be the throne of kingship. Some feel – although we are the children, (although) we are definitely the children of the Father, (although) we are certainly Suryavanshis, but we have not climbed on to Father’s heart. We are not able to fullfil the hopes of the Father’s heart which he has pinned on us.
... So they will realize that we are not sitting on the heart throne. They are indeed the children, they can understand. It means that they will definitely achieve the position of Suryavanshi praja[subjects in the sun dynasty], but they will not perform any task. The expectation that God Father has from the children– the children should become serviceable, they should bring fame to the Father, they do not perform that task and show. Give them food and water, but they will not perform any task. They live in Father’s house. They even study everyday in the Father’s house, they eat, they drink. I shall eat with you, I shall play with you, and I shall remain in your company in every breath. They do everything. Everything is available to them, but they are unable to do the Godly service that they should do. Therefore, what will they become in the end? They will become servants in the end.
If they do not work hard here while living under the protection (chatrachaya) of the Father, then they will have to work hard there. What? In the eyes of the world, they appear to have become the children of the Father. We have become the children of God or that we have surrendered, we have completely surrendered, but internally they feel – we eat, we drink, we sleep, but we are of no use to the Father. So, what will be its result? What will be its result there? They will have to work hard there. Where? In the Golden Age? Will there be labour in the Golden Age? All the labour is done by the nature. So, it is not the question of the Golden Age or the Silver Age. To which time does it pertain? One will have to work very hard in the 63 births of the Copper Age and the Iron Age.
I will immediately ask – how many (souls) have you made equal to yourself? Brahmani works hard to bring many (here). Brahmani thinks that – if I take them in front of the Father, then the Father will refresh them because the Father is a Supreme Teacher, isn’t He? First of all is the supreme knowledgeful God and at the second number is this one. Who? Who used to be pointed out by saying ‘this one’? A hint used to be given about Brahma. At the first number is the Supreme knowledgeful. When will one be called knowledgeful? If he is in the form of a point, if He is just a point, whose name is Shiv, then will someone call him knowledgeful or is He called the ocean of knowledge, knowledgeful when He enters the corporeal medium? When He enters the corporeal, when He narrates The Knowledge, then He is called knowledgeful and in the second number is – this Brahma. Brahma means? Dada Lekhraj, whose 84th birth is ‘Brahma’, the one who shows knowledge in his inculcations (dharana). The Knowledge is not (just) in words. Who speaks through him? The words are of the point of light Shiv. That is why He just shows inculcation/assimilation (of virtues). The inculcation of a senior mother in Brahma. Then, when does He come in the form of words?
There is one such form too, whom nobody can confront in the matter of speech. Is that (form) a male deity (devtaa) or a female deity (devi)? (Someone said – she is a devi) Which devi is it? ‘Vaak Devi’. Devi of ‘Vaak’, i.e. speech. What is the name? Jagdamba Saraswati. When the same Jagdamba becomes degraded, when she becomes a destroyer (sanhaar kaarini), then her tongue is visible outside. There cannot be anyone sharper than her in words. She is also a mother. Just as there is the World Father (Jagadpita), similarly there is the Mother of the World and the form of Brahma, which is a male body, is not worshipped, but the soul which enters in the body of a mother, that body is worshipped. It is worshipped in the form of Jagdamba as well as in the form of a destroyer of demons, ‘Mahakali’. So, in the second number is this mother.
These are very wonderful matters. Human beings do not know even a single thing. They do not know even a single thing and they do not know only one thing. Which matter do they not know? Which special thing do they not know? There is one special matter which the human beings do not know. Earlier we children also did not know. (Someone said – God of Gita ...) Yes. They do not know that – how God comes and establishes the new world ...(to be continued)
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. Some words have been added in the brackets by the translator for better understanding of the translation.