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27 Oct 2007by arjun
Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs
Audio Cassette No.29, at Kampil,
Clarification of Avyakt Vani dated 08.04.92
Ref. No.Audio Cass.-29-Part-III-Eng.,
... It is not so that Father Brahma has left his body and now he is living in the Subtle Region above like an angel. So, he himself does not have any body at all. So, should a direction be given to the children, should the children be taught to become an angel? Should the children also leave the body? He has become an angel and is waiting in the world of angels to make you all into angels. Who? Both, Brahma and the Father. Where are they waiting? They are waiting in the world of angels. Where is this world? Above. It is above, isn’t it? Is it above or is it in a high stage? It is in a high stage. Just as, Amarnath has been shown on the mountain. The devotees have shown that. But Amarnath means a high stage, where even the ling (phallus) has became like ice. Otherwise the ling is not (made up of) ice. So, the stage has been shown. It is a matter of assuming this stage. That high stage, in which this body and the relatives of this bodily world, should not be remembered. The thinking and churning about The Knowledge, about the new world, about the planning of the new world, about the service should go on.
So, do not just say through the mouth that we love Father Brahma a lot. We love Baba very much. We love Baba so much that we cannot describe it. They even say that they love Baba so much that they cannot describe. So, Father Brahma is not pleased [just] by words (of children). He is pleased through the actions (of children). There are lots of devotees in the world who just say. They sing such songs of love! They sing such songs of love that they can make many [people] laugh as well as cry. They are the devotees who [just] say and you are the ones who become (embodiments). If they just keep telling, then think that even now a trace of Bhakti remains. They thunder, but do not shower. In that case, they are the clouds of Bhakti [devotion]. They are not knowledgeable souls. And when one is not a knowledgeable soul at all, when there is a trace of Bhakti then one will have to leave the body. One will have to assume a new body and make efforts once again in the next birth. Or else, like Brahma-Saraswati, one will have to leave the physical body forever. By becoming the one bearing a subtle body, one will have to perform one’s task by entering. In that case, they will not be called knowledgeable souls. Neither will they be called yogi souls. But they will be called bhaktayogi [devotional yogi] souls. Now, are you the ones who become (embodiments) or are you the ones who [just] say? For the sake of saying you will say that you are the one who becomes (an embodiment).
So, what will you do now? Will you show any novelty or will you do the same thing that you did this year? What did you do this year? You did just tapasya (penance). You left actions. You did not become a karmayogi. And what does Baba want? You should become a karmayogi. Karma and Yoga should be together, [i.e.] Tapasya should be also be simultaneous. Such a time will also come that BapDada will meet only those, who do, who become (embodiments), are not the ones who simply speak. BapDada will not even meet those who just speak, who just utter words. He will not speak at all. Such a time will also come. Well, when will such a time come? [BapDada] has been telling since many years that this part of BapDada that is going on through Gulzar Dadi will also end. How many years have passed while saying that this part will also come to an end? So, when will such a time come? In which form will it come?
‘B’ Side Cassette
Middle portion of the third page of the Vani dated 8.4.92. Therefore, such a time will come now, in which BapDada will meet only those who do and who become, are not the ones who just say. He will not even meet those who just say. Then, in which form will he meet? It has been told that the Avyakt [unmanifest] part will stop. Then, in which form will he meet? Certainly, Father Brahma, who remains in an Avyakt stage even while living in a corporeal body, is inviting even the children to achieve such a stage that - achieve such a stage in which just actions are involved. There is no role of words at all. There are three kinds of persons - one kind are those who speak a lot. They say a lot. They do nothing. The second kind are those who speak as well as do to that extent. And the third kind are those who do, but do not say (about it). So, (first are) those who do, second are those who do as well as speak, and the third are those who just speak. Just as, trees are also of three kinds. There are some trees which have only flowers and no leaves at all. There are some trees, in which there are flowers as well as leaves. And there are some trees which have only leaves. There are neither flowers nor fruits. Therefore, how should one become? Which tree looks nice? A tree which is full of flowers, what is the use of leaves? If one keeps an aim of the second (category), then one may also come down (to lower category). And if one keeps the aim of first; (then) if not first, one can certainly come second. As the aim (lakshya), so shall be the indications (lakshan).
Now look, BapDada allows everyone that anyone can come to meet, to talk, but now what kind of a time is going to come? Everyone will not be allowed. Only those whose words and actions are the same will be allowed. (Now the situation is such that) The emotional (bhaavnaa vaaley) ones may also come. The knowledgeful ones may also come. The yogi souls may also come. Everyone is allowed. But the time is bound to change. That is why underline ten times more on self and transform yourself and show. Then do not complain to BapDada. How can it be possible that He would not allow to meet at all. We are planning to bring very big personalities of the world. We bring very big mathaadheeshs, peethaadheeshs (heads of Hindu monastries/seats of religious power) very big religious heads, Presidents, and Prime Ministers to enable them meet BapDada. And they are not going to change so suddenly that they would become the ones who do as soon as they speak. So, will it be a waste to serve such VIPs? It is because BapDada will not meet at all. So, do not make such complaints, why was it done [this way] like that? That when He is a Supreme Soul Father, He is everybody's Father, is not He? Then he meets someone and does not meet someone. Why is it so? ...(to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
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28 Oct 2007by arjun
Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs
Audio Cassette No.29, at Kampil,
Clarification of Avyakt Vani dated 08.04.92
Ref. No.Audio Cass.-29-Part-IV-Eng.,
... If you do not become strict in your effort-making then the Father will have to become strict. Now, in fact, you are moving ahead and being sustained through the loveful form of the Father. [He] has not taken up the form of Sadguru yet, because Sadguru’s form is strict. Just as there is the praise in the path of worship: call from guru [means] call from death. Just as, when someone’s time nears, death comes, no one can stop it. Similarly, when the Father says, do this, and if it was not done, then death is certain. Death means? Hm? He will play such a part that one will lose faith on the Father’s part.
So, even now, you are moving [ahead], you are being sustained through the loveful form. But there is also the Sadguru’s form. (BapDada is) not talking about the form of Dharmraj. But Sadguru! It is praised that the orders of Sadguru are given high regard. Hence, now BapDada is sustaining you saying “sweet children, beloved children.” That means [they] aren’t sweet and beloved, but BapDada is also sustaining them somehow. If there is love, if there is a thirst for meeting, then meet by becoming an equal. Which equality was mentioned? Equal to the Father. In which matter equality was mentioned? Angel; just as the Father Brahma is moving as an angel. Someone may say that Father Brahma has no body at all; (but) we do have a body. Then this is ignorance.
It is not that Father Brahma is asking the children to become that which he himself has not become. At present, even Father Brahma is himself beyond the relationships of this [corporeal] world in spite of having a body. So, Father Brahma is asking the children to attain the same stage that he himself has attained. So, if there is love, if there is a thirst for meeting, then meet by becoming an equal. Meet the angelic Father by becoming an angel, because even otherwise, the meeting will be through the organs; but if there is consciousness of the body in the organs, then the children are (meeting) through the organs in body consciousness and the Father (as) an angel. Then to what extent will this meeting be possible? The stage will keep fluctuating.
Even in the lokik world, while making a pair/match, if one is very fat and the other is very small and thin, then will they match? That will not match at all; moreover, their lives will become even more burdensome. So, similarly, Father Brahma is performing the tasks as an angel but the children become corporeal again and again. They become body conscious. In that case, this meeting cannot become constant. Therefore, become an equal and meet. Do not meet with a great difference. If there is a little difference, then it does not matter; Father Brahma will cover it up. There is lot of pleasure in meeting as equals. Take an experience of that and see. That is a different kind of pleasure. There is a pleasure of body consciousness too. That is momentary [pleasure] but the pleasure which BapDada is asking [you] to experience is altogether different kind of pleasure.
It is good that you have come. You have at least managed to come. That time has not yet come when (people) would not be allowed (to come) at all. One met the Father, one received drishti (glance). Then they went there. Then some weakness emerged. One got power and used it. One became victorious once or twice. Then they became weak. This meeting is of its own kind - meeting again and again and becoming weak again and again. But the accurate love (yathaarth pyaar), the accurate meeting (yathaarth milan) is much higher than this. How is the accurate meeting? Yatha arth, which is called - Avyakt meeting [meeting in an unmanifest form.]. BapDada is Avyakt. So, meet Avyakt BapDada in an Avyakt form. Do not meet in body consciousness. So, what is an accurate meeting? The name itself is Avyakt meeting, in which there isn’t [any] corporeal stage, in which there isn’t any body consciousness. If he is very beloved (pyara), then experience it; that when compared to the world or when compared to the people of the world how is the Father very very beloved. Did you understand?
Disobeying the orders of the Satguru - There isn’t anyone who disobeyed the orders of the Satguru, is there? That they even came in front of the Satguru and refused to obey the order of the Satguru. He is the Satguru, is not He? The whims and fancies of the children are permissible in front of the Father because He is the Mother and the Father. Whims and fancies means – “I will not do. I cannot do this.” So these are the whims and fancies. “I will fall sick.” So, these whims and fancies are alright in front of the Father and the Mother. Pampering is allowed. This is why, if you have love, true love for the Father in this year. It is not a mixed love, that we may love the Father also a little and we may love someone else also a little. If there is no mixed love. Then become. Become like an angel and show. When? This year.
Now so many of you have come to meet. That is very good, but do even better. You have love (for BapDada), that is why you have reached (here). But there is a difference between giving love in response to love and maintaining the love.] Giving love in response to love; someone loves us and we also love him/her. Then it is not a big deal. But He may love or he may reject [us], because He will test the love too, will He not? The Father does not reject. Children think that the Father is rejecting us. To reject means if he kicks us out saying - run away from this place. The Father does not reject anyone. He just assesses [them] because children have to be told. Otherwise, the children will say that you have made this one such a high ranked bead of the rosary. What was the defect in me that you put me lower down the order? So they should not (be able to) say like this. So, in order to make it clear that whose love is more? There is more love means there is more Yoga, more devotion (lagan). So, giving love in response to love is not a big deal. But maintaining the love, when the circumstance of maintaining the love comes, but that will come only when a matter of such test comes.
'I love you, but you do not love me' - it is said that it can never happen like this. Is it possible that the souls love the Supreme Soul Father but the Supreme Soul Father does not love them? It means that the love of the souls is higher and the love of the Supreme Soul is lower. It can never happen like that. Children are numberwise in love and the Father is an ocean of love. Although, for some time, it may appear that the Father does not love us, this is why here we go! We will do service living far away. It is not so.....That is not the matter. The Father's love is praised in the world to such an extent that even today, soul of every religion is remembering that Father. When all the supports of the world will perish, when all the supports would get shattered, then during the period of destruction, it is the Father alone who will become the true helper, the true friend of every soul. Every soul will experience, I remembered the Father during such times and the Father extended help to me.
So, giving love in response to love is not a big deal. Maintaining that love is a higher matter. There is a difference between maintaining the love and giving love to the one who loves you. Every one of you loves. If there was no love, then why would you come so many times? You come again and again; there are moths (patangey), there are different kinds of moths. There are also some such type of moths that if they come once, they do not come again at all. So, you come; then it means certainly there is love. It means that you are the moths which circle (around). You are not the moths that get attracted (to the fire), that sacrifice themselves, that come and at once sacrifice themselves. They become attracted at once. So, if there was no love, then why would you come so many times? In spite of saying no-no, you come. What? You say no-no, I will not go because one loses faith; then one will not go. One loses faith, isn’t it? Or does the faith remain unshakeable? Have you become the Pole Star? So, you lose faith, then in spite of saying ‘no-no’ you come, don’t you? (There is Hindi song) ‘na-na kartey pyaar tumhee say kar baithey’ (in spite of saying 'no-no', I started loving you). They pen the song, don’t they? We will not meet him. He is not good. But even then they come. They don’t wish to, but even then they come.
There is love. It is not that there isn’t love, but loving and maintaining the love till the end, because they become numberwise in maintaining (the love). Some are able to maintain it for a short period and some maintain it for a long period. Some such ones also emerge, who maintain (it) till the end. So, will the numbers be scored on the basis of love or on the basis of maintaining the love? The more one maintains, the higher the stage that the bead of the rosary would achieve ...(to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
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29 Oct 2007by arjun
Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs
Audio Cassette No.29, at Kampil,
Clarification of Avyakt Vani dated 08.04.92
Ref. No.Audio Cass.-29-Part-V-Eng.,
... So, there is a difference between loving and maintaining the love. How many are those who love? They are many, aren’t they? And how many are those who maintain the love? So, who are you? Are you the ones who maintaing the love or are you the ones who [just] give love? Or do you just utter again and again that we love the Supreme Soul very much? We have great love (for Him). Who are you? The ones who maintain [the love.] Then saying that “one should be the one who maintains the love” - this matter ends. Those who maintain the love will not say “should be”, “should be”; “but one should be the ones who maintain”, They will not say like this. What will they do? It is practical. It is not just through the mouth. You are the ones who do it practically and show. You are not the ones who say through the mouth.
It was told, wasn’t it?, that there are many who give themselves marks and certificate, also in the chart of tapasya (penance) thinking that they have done a lot of tapasya. We have done bhatti for fourteen hours. But the certificate of satisfaction of everyone – only a few have received it. The tapasya should be such that everyone should be satisfied with it. Many who kept chart also emerged. [i.e.] Those who maintained a chart. Many such ones also emerged who gave themselves the best certificate. They maintained a chart as well as gave themselves a certificate on their own; there are not many, but there are some, a little. You may think 'much more'. There are many who obtained the second number (i.e.rank) (the fourth page) But it should emerge from everybody's mouth that “yes, this one is number one in maintaining the love.” One should get this certificate of good wishes from everybody's heart. This is called – “being numberone immersed in tapasya. This one does not feel tired at all.”
BapDada had said earlier also that - many children say that we are alright. But some souls have some hard karmic accounts with us that howevermuch we [try to] satisfy them, they do not get satisfied with us at all. But, those who would be the true tapasvis, will not say like this. So, BapDada had said earlier also that if there is any such rigid karmic account, then one should at least get 95% certificate. Why has 5% been left? It is because 5% souls are such that they are instrumental in testing/examining us. That is why they are to be excluded. They will not give the certificate of satisfaction. It is because they are the ones who examine. How will they say - I am satisfied with you? 5% (souls) have a rigid karmic account. Leave that also. That is also excused. Why is it excused? It is because, they are the ones who examine, but 95% [souls] should give you blessings/good wishes from their hearts that they are satisfied with you. Otherwise, many say - who is satisfied with everyone? It cannot be possible at all that everyone becomes satisfied with someone. We haven't seen anyone like that at all. No such person is visible with whom everyone is satisfied. For the Seniors also, they think; some are displeased even with them, then, if anyone becomes displeased with me, then what is the big deal in it? But no.
The Seniors, who are instrumental, suppose someone is instrumental in playing the part of Dharmaraj; will everyone be satisfied with him? He will give punishments. They will not be able to understand, until they do not have complete vision. So, those souls are excluded; those who are instrumental in examining. Exclude those Seniors. Seniors have to become judges. The matter of Seniors is different. So, out of the two, they will say ‘yes’ to one’s side (of the story/case) and he would say that they (i.e. the judges) are very good. The ones whom they (i.e. the judges) say ‘no’, then what would they say? They would say – this one is also not nice. So, will a judge say ‘yes’ to one or will he say ‘yes’ to both? What will he do? So, those matters are different. But look in front of you the certificates of – tapasya from the heart, love from the heart, the feeling of being an instrument, good wishes. Do not copy, that when [people] are not satisfied with the Seniors, then we will certainly pass. What? That when everyone does not become satisfied even with the Seniors, then we are still juniors; so, we will certainly pass. First, [people] should be satisfied with the Seniors, those who are considered to be big effortmakers. So, do not think like this. Why? Why shouldn’t one think like this? Why shouldn’t one think like this for the Seniors? It is because some Seniors are such that they have been fixed on that stage of examination. They have achieved a certain stage. That is why they have been made the examiners. If 95% are satisfied, then you will certainly get the number. Exclude the 5% senior instruments who examine (you).
OK, the first creation (aadi rachnaa) of the first Father (aadi pita), (who have come) from all the four directions. Adi rachana means the first creation, the direct creation who do not have a media in between. They are the direct creation of the Father. [At least] Brahma would be a media! Or is he too not a media? Brahma also complains – why did you make them your children without my permission? The direct creation. To such elevated souls; to all the souls, which achieve the inheritance of jeevanmukti (liberation from vices while being alive) for many births; to all the entitled souls who are to get transformed from Brahmins to angels, and from angels to deities; to the souls which achieve success in the plan of service by becoming a plain intellect; to all the close souls who maintain true love and true affection with the Father; not to the distant souls but to the close souls, BapDada’s remembrance, love and namaste [greetings].
BapDada’s meeting with the Dadis – You have done the best service, haven’t you? Why did he add ‘haven’t you’? Everyone has collectively done the service of decorating the gathering in a nice way. Whether they have done any [other] service or not, but they have decorated the gathering. They have beautified it. They have given the finishing touches. This service has been done nicely. The service of decorating the gathering is so lovely! Just as a jeweler makes every gem flawless (bedaag), in which there should not be any shortcoming. He makes the gem good, [and] excellent ...
Avyakt Vani points
1. The indication of a true sevadhari (server) is – sacrifice which means humility. And tapasya means determination in the faith, intoxication of one Father ... If the name (of the task) is service and if one himself gets disturbed, and makes others also disturbed; BapDada is asking (the children) to become free from such service. It is better not to do such service because the special virtue of service is satisfaction. AV dated -9.4.86, pg.317.
2. Those who are humble (namrachitt) bow. The more one bows in sanskars, in thoughts, the more the world would bow before you. Bowing means making others bow ... There should not be even the thought that – others should also bow before us to some extent? If we bow, everyone will bow. Those who are true sevadharis, when they bow before everyone, only then they would do service. – AV. Dated 11.7.71, pg.152
3. Do not just do service, but do such service in which one gets satisfaction and one gets the blessings from everyone. AV-11.4.85, pg.17
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
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31 Oct 2007by arjun
Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs
VCD* NO.356, DTD 2.12.05, SEHORE
CLARIFICATION OF Murli DATED 13.1.67
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The Vani that was going on was (13.1.67) – morning class, at the third page, in the beginning of the middle portion. The matter being narrated was – If you do not give anything to a beggar, then today’s beggars also start shouting. This matter has been reported in a Government Newspaper also, but now-a-days the wild apes do not understand. It is animals only which live in the dense forest. Golden Age is called a garden of flowers and in comparison to the Golden Age, now it is a jungle of thorns in the Iron Age. The wild animals are like thorns (kaantey). If someone gets hurt by a thorn, then it causes a lot of pain. Father explains so clearly. Until the thorn is stuck in the leg; it causes so much pain. Even if a part of the thorn remains (in the leg) it keeps causing so much pain. There, mostly which part of the body is hurt by the thorn, the gross thorn? Which part of the body is hurt by the thorn? Thorn pierces the leg. Here which leg is being talked about? This is a leg-like intellect (buddhi-roopi paanv). Just as someone reaches some place by walking with his/her legs. So the legs are compared to the intellect. The intellect also reaches a place. It goes from one place to such a far place. Similarly thorns keep hurting the leg-like intellect also. They even understand – these matters are very correct. Causing injury with a thorn is the work of wild animals. Even then why do people become big wild animals? People become thorns by causing sorrows to each other.
Which is the biggest sorrow that has been described? Hm? Arey! Using the dagger of sex-lust (kaam kataari) is the biggest sorrow that has been described. This thorn gets stuck in the intellect. One keeps getting reminded (of him/her) and those memories (Yaad) keep causing sorrows. However much you may explain, but one does not leave the habit at all. Which habit? The habit of using the knife of sex-lust. Now the head gardener (baagbaan), gardener (maali) is planting flowers. They keep planting thorns. Who is the gardener? Who is the head-gardener? (Someone said – ShivBaba) Head gardener, both? The baagbaan (head gardener) is ShivBaba. And what about maali (gardener)? There are many gardens. There is a gardener for each garden. Whatever geetapathshalas are there; what are they? Gardens. Whatever mini-Madhubans are there; what are they? Gardens. And those who take care of them are the gardeners. So the head gardener and gardeners are planting flowers. They keep transforming thorns into flowers. It is their occupation. What? To transform the thorns into flowers; and what would those, who are thorns themselves, keep doing? Can they plant flowers? If they are thorns, then they will keep producing thorns.
Even in the exhibition, one must send someone carefully. Those who are nice intelligent (samjhoo), clever (sayaaney), should be sent for explaining the exhibition. Those who are thorns themselves would produce even more thorns in the exhibition. Those who are nice gyaanvaan (knowledgeful) and dhaarnaavaan (virtuous) souls. You understand accurately that who are the nice virtuous ones and who are the knowledgeful ones. There is nothing to feel insulted in this. Is there any difference or not between being knowledgeful and being virtuous? Anyone can narrate knowledge. They can narrate very good knowledge. Ravan was also shown to be a great scholar (prakaand gyaani). In order to show him to be knowledgeful, Vedas and scriptures have been placed in his hands. But he did not inculcate The Knowledge. He used to sow thorns only. So there is nothing to feel insulted in it. Storing knowledge, listening and narrating – is not a big thing. But inculcating The Knowledge, the essence (tant) of The Knowledge in one’s life – is a very big thing.
Look, here everyone keeps fighting with each other in the jungle. So everyone is an animal, isn’t it? In the Golden Age these Lakshmi and Narayan would not fight with each other. Have Lakshmi and Narayan been shown to fight with each other? Do they fight with each other? Nobody used to fight and quarrel with each other in the Golden and Silver Age at all. The couples also live very affectionately. Why did they live so? Why do fights and quarrels take place here? Why did fights and quarrels not take place there? There was no licentiousness (vyabhichaar) there. Radha used to exchange glances with Krishna only and Krishna used to exchange glances with Radha only. That is why there was no question of quarrels. It was a Shivaalay (house of Shiv) there. In a Shivaalay, everyone venerates 'one' only.
Aalay means home-family (ghar-parivar or household). In a household one head is venerated and now the family system (paarivaarik vyavastha) itself has got disintegrated. Ever since the family system has disintegrated, everyone has become a Father. They have become fathers (pitaa); some have become husbands (pati). One has many husbands. Everyone says – we are protectors (rakshak). The Father says – nobody is a protector. Pati (i.e. husband) means ‘paati’, one who protects. Protection from what? One who protects from Ravan. What did Ravan create? He used to create veshyaalay (brothels). One who protects from the brothel is called ‘pati’ (i.e. husband) and if he renounces the household and departs, then the children would become orphans (yateem), isn’t it? Will the brothel increase or decrease? It would increase.
In the Golden Age, this Lakshmi and Narayan used to live so affectionately with each other. Those who were flowers in the Golden Age, they then become thorns. Those who become thorns; they then worship flowers. What? Which time does this matter pertain to? Does this matter pertain to Dwaparyug (Copper Age), is this a matter of Kaliyug (Iron Age) or is it a matter of Sangamyug (Confluence Age) also? What? Those who become thorns worship flowers. Father explains so nicely that you should not become worshippers. Now you need not worship. You need not bow your head before anyone. What does bowing of the head mean? Bowing the head means bowing the intellect. This is a matter of the intellect. There is no need to bow the head physically. In the context of knowledge, there is only one highest Father; He is the bestower of knowledge. There is no need to bow the head before him also. What should one do? Bowing the head means surrendering the intellect. Following his directions. If one follows his directions, then it automatically means bowing the head. There is no need to bow one’s physical head in this ...(to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in Italics are Hindi words.
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01 Nov 2007by arjun
Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs
VCD* NO.356, DTD 2.12.05, SEHORE,
CLARIFICATION OF Murli DATED 13.1.67
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... Now look – The Shivjayanti is coming; you children keep organizing a lot of exhibitions (pradarshani). What? What should you do? Keep organizing exhibitions? Then what; lift the bundle of pictures and start organizing exhibitions in every village, every city. Shouldn’t you do that? (Someone said – No) Why? Then what should be done? (Someone said – an exhibition of knowledge) One must organize an exhibition of gems of knowledge. An exhibition of gems of knowledge; where do the gems come from? One would have to tell. You organize the exhibition of gems; so, where did these gems come from? In the world, everyone keeps hurting each other with thorns; they keep throwing stones at each other. You give gems. So those who obtain the gems would ask. What would they ask? Where did you get these gems from? Who gives these gems? Finally, who is the chief of the exhibition of the gems of knowledge? Or would they be happy just by looking at the stones? Hm? They work as stones also. What? The gems of knowledge; such a time also comes when those gems of knowledge work as stones. The same versions of Murli, which have been heard in the basic knowledge appear to some as stones and are felt to be gems by some others. There is a difference. There is a difference of person, there is a difference of place; there is a difference of atmosphere (maahaul); there is a difference of time.
So, it should be told – the giver of gems is Ratnaagar and Ratnaakar (a storehouse of gems). Ocean is called Ratnaakar. The ocean of knowledge, i.e. Father is the one who gives us the gems of knowledge. In comparison, all other human gurus throw stones. They pierce thorns. The Knowledge comes from the Father; Bhakti comes from the human gurus. Bhakti is done through the body and knowledge is a matter of the intellect. Words are used in Bhakti as well as knowledge. But the intention (bhaav) is different. One may narrate however great knowledge through the words, but if that knowledge causes sorrows to someone, if a soul gets dazzled just by listening to it, then it is not a knowledge. What is it? It is a stone (patthar). Knowledge is that which gives happiness to a soul. Not even a temporary joy. The Knowledge that gives permanent joy, if it results in joy for many births, then it is a Godly knowledge.
So you children keep organizing a lot of these exhibitions now. Which is the first picture that must be explained in the exhibition? Hm? Exhibition of gross pictures have also been organized; we have been organizing these exhibitions a lot in the basic knowledge. So, even there, which was picture that used to be kept first of all? The soul and the Supreme Soul. First of all the introduction of the Father was given. The Father is also a point of light. The soul is also a point of light. So first of all, one has to give the introduction of the Father in the exhibition. The small children would explain the gross exhibition and you have to explain the living exhibition (chaitanya pradarshani). You may continue to organize these small exhibitions also. There is no need for more pictures. You can make them masters of heaven in a second. You can say – it takes a second to transform the sinful unrighteous ones to pure righteous ones here. How? If the faith on the Father fits into anybody’s intellect that the Father has come to transform sinful ones into pure ones; he has come to transform thorns into flowers, then the intellect would get transformed in a second. The world gets transformed for the one, whose intellect has got transformed. Obtain true salvation (jeevanmukti or beatitude) in a second.
They do not even understand the meaning of jeevanmukti. What do they infer from ‘jeevanmukti’? They infer ‘jeevanmukti’ to be – leave the body and take birth in the heaven. The world also thinks like that only. The so-called Brahmins also feel the same way that – all those who are leaving the bodies enter the new world. You also understand these matters now. What? You understand that if the intellect gets transformed through The Knowledge; for those, who have recognized The Knowledge and the giver of knowledge, there is heaven in this world itself. If they feel sorrowful, then certainly they have not kept up the promise of ‘one Father and none else’(ek baap doosra na koi). They have given other souls also the same place which they should give to Father. The place which they should give to Father is – I have all the relationships with one Father. And I am not going to maintain any relationship with anyone in the world. Father will not remain a Father, a son will not remain a son and even now it is observed so. All these relationships are false. These are bodily relationships. These are relationships of the progeny of womb –even if they are of the aloukik world. Even in the aloukik world, there are womb-born (kukhvanshavali) Brahmins and mouth-born (mukhvanshavali) Brahmins. Those who belong to the world of womb-born Brahmins are going to get finished. Those who are true mouth-born, those who give importance to the gems of knowledge in their life will only be saved; those souls in whose intellect it has got fitted that The Knowledge (gyaan) comes from one Father. Ignorance (agyaan) comes from many gurus; it comes from human gurus.
All the human beings are vicious. ‘One’ Father is the one to transform the sinful ones into pure ones. They do not understand. You also understand these matters now. Everyone gets jeevanmukti (true salvation) through the Father only. We must remain in the life and experience the liberation from sorrows and pains also. There should be such a zenith (paraakaashthaa) of knowledge. The zenith of knowledge will be when we imbibe in our life whatever knowledge that we receive. We should teach others later on. First we should imbibe in our life ...(to be continued)
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02 Nov 2007by arjun
Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs
VCD* NO.356, DTD 2.12.05, SEHORE,
CLARIFICATION OF Murli DATED 13.1.67
No.VCD*.
... So one must know about jeevanmukti (true salvation or beatitude) also. One must know about the drama also. As regards the drama, we know that all the religions would not come in the Golden Age. All the religions would also not come in the heaven; all the religious fathers would also not come in the heaven and the followers of the religious fathers would also not come in the heaven. Their followers are very strong. Who are strong and who get converted – we must judge this also through our intellect. Let anyone be a follower of any guru; even if you give a little introduction of Father to them and if the arrow of knowledge hits their intellect immediately, then you can think that he is going to get converted. He should be given more knowledge. Those who do not belong to our clan (kul) will keep listening through one ear and keep leaving through the other. They will not pay any attention at all. However much we may try to exhibit (The Knowledge); however much we may glorify the Father; however much we may reveal the form of the Father in front of them, it is not going to fit into their intellect because they possess the sanskars of many births of listening only to their own religious Father. That is why they would not listen to you.
So it should be fitted into the intellect that all the religions would not come in the heaven. They would then go to their own sections and when their time comes, they would come again and establish their religions. Even here it is a similar case. There are basically three kinds of souls involved in the establishment of religions. One is the subtle seed soul that comes from above and second is the one that is the seed in gross form. You may call them as the seeds of the respective religions and the third is the base-like (aadhaarmoort) soul. The seed coming from above enters into it and performs its task. So who is the creator basically? Is the soul which comes from above the creator? Who is the creator? Suppose the soul of Buddha comes from above; it descends from the Soul World directly and enters into Siddharth. The person in whom it enters is the base-like root (aadhaarmoort jad) and the one who gives birth to that root is a gross seed. The seed should be already present. So, who is the creator among these three souls? The seed is the creator. Which seed? The one who is already present. Similar is the case with the Sanaatan Dharma. The Supreme Soul comes from above and the soul in whose body He enters first of all is the aadhaarmoort (i.e. base-like soul). And who is the one to adopt that base-like soul? Prajapita. So, the one, who is Prajapita is the gross seed. The one, who is gross seed, is the creator.
The Supreme Soul is a point of light. The permanent name is – point of light. The name of my soul is Shiv. That is not going to change. The creation changes. The relationship between the creation and creator is the relationship of a Father and a son. It is a relationship of a husband and a wife. Husband or Father – these are the basic relationships. There is more power in these relationships. In comparison to the son, the Father is always more powerful if he has not become licentious (vyabhichaari). If the fathers become licentious, then they too have to bow before the creation. The creation and the creator. The creator must always be powerful. There is a creator, a Prajapita for each religion. The Prajapita of each religion is like a creator, like a king among the followers of its religion. It must have full control over it. If there is no control, then certainly which shortcoming emerges? The shortcoming of purity emerges. Emergence of impurity means emergence of vices (vishay-vikaar). One becomes vicious. And until this viciousness does not end from that seed-like soul, it has to remain under the subordination of the children. If one is subordinate (adheen), then, until he is subordinate he cannot be called an Officer (adhikaari). An Officer would keep the creation living under him in his clutches.
Well, all the religious fathers, who come from above are all numberwise. The detail (vistaar) has been described in The Tree. There are the religious fathers of their respective religions. The more powerful the religious fathers, the longer would be the influence of their religion. Until the world exists, until the satwik (pure) form remains in it to some extent, their religion continues to exist, but the duration gets reduced. For example, some seeds exist for many years and some other seeds lose their power after they have been sown two-four times. A new seed has to be sown. So similarly, these are the souls of various generations of different religions. There are variety souls. There are souls, which have come from different religions and they contain the sanskars of many births within them. Among those sanskars the nature and resolves of their Father, Prajapita will certainly be contained originally. Even the Supreme Soul Himself cannot change those natures and resolves after coming to this world. There are some souls who cannot change, however much knowledge one may narrate to them. There is a limit for them. They can get transformed up to that limit only, not more than that. Why can’t they get transformed? It is because whatever has been fixed is being enacted.
In every soul, the roles of many births of its kind are fixed. Some souls take more births and some souls take lesser births. Some play an all round part and some souls play half part. There are some souls also which take only one birth. For example some mosquitoes and flies come and go. So it is a variety tree. That is why, in view of the variety tree, whenever we give knowledge to any soul, we should keep this matter of religion in our intellect. There is no need to persuade anyone much. Our knowledge is simple. It is an easy Yoga. ...(to be continued)
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03 Nov 2007by arjun
Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs
VCD* NO.356, DTD 2.12.05, SEHORE,
CLARIFICATION OF Murli DATED 13.1.67
No.VCD*.
... If it does not fit into anyone’s intellect easily, then it is better to maintain a distance. If you persuade such a soul very much, then it will spoil our head only. Why? It is because we do not follow the Shrimat that we have received. Ours is not a hathyog. Ours is an easy Rajyog. It is an easy knowledge. We must keep narrating to the person, in whose intellect The Knowledge gets fitted easily. Even though that soul is not progressing much, but even then if it wishes to listen, then we must narrate to him/her. There is such a rule also that we must offer water to the thirsty and offer food to the hungry. So we must know that which soul requires what kind of a dose at what time?
All these matters are so clear in The Tree. Sadgati daataa (bestower of true salvation), durgati daataa (bestower of degradation). The Sadgati Daataa is one Sadguru and durgati daataa are many gurus. The name of Sadgati daataa is Sadguru and what about the name of durgati daataa? Hm? (Someone said – [i]dharma guru[/i], i.e. religious preceptors) Yes, this is also one of the names. If you say anything against them, then they would start grumbling. They would start grumbling. Look, the Father is so sweet. 70 years have passed while explaining. Does the Father grumble any time? He does not get angry. So ‘one’ is Sadgati Daataa. Remaining people teach Bhakti. There are a lot of gurus who teach Bhakti and the one who narrates knowledge is ‘one’ Father. Human beings make someone a guru for true salvation (sadgati), but no one achieves true salvation. And the history of 2500 years shows all the more that everyone has been experiencing degradation (durgati).
Those who call themselves Shri Shri 108 Jagadguru are all apes of the path of worship (Bhaktimarg). There are a variety of apes. The big apes are very dangerous (khatarnaak), ferocious (khaufnaak). They even keep getting people murdered. They are too clever to be recognized. Those who call themselves Shri Shri108 Jagadguru – are very big Hiranyakashyaps. Now they are going to be unmasked (polepadhari) completely. What? Whose? Hm? Which kind of bodily gurus are going to be unmasked? Is it the gurus of the outside world? That is a matter of later times. First? Hm? (Someone said – In the world of Brahmins) In the world of Brahmins, whether it is those belonging to the basic knowledge and whether it is those belonging to the Advanced Knowledge, everyone is going to be unmasked. And what does Maya say? Well, you want to unmask me, i.e. Maya-like Ravan? OK, let me first unmask your Father first. Maya exerts her pressure and children exert their pressure.
You say – the task of the Jagadguru is to show the path of true salvation or to organize hunger strike (bhookh hartaal)? To commit suicide (jeevghaat)? Committing suicide means getting included in the list of the most sinful ones (mahaapaapi). Look, now Baba has written a letter. Even then they do not understand. They are big apes, isn’t it? Now it is a rule of subjects (praja) over subjects. That is why nobody understands. When someone went to explain someone in Delhi, he started telling – I do not want to understand. I do not want to understand whatever you say. Do you want to convert me? It is as if he started telling – I do not want to get transformed from a monkey to worthy of being worshipped in a temple (Bandar say mandir laayak). He was explained a lot – Arey! We want to transform you from a monkey to worthy of being worshipped in a temple. Why do you get angry at us? The Father says – this is a world of monkeys only. You would find a variety of monkeys at every step. Some are very strong. They do not hesitate to fight, to get killed or to kill. When you go to organize exhibitions, then a similar thing happens in the exhibition also. People start fighting. Some get angry to such an extent that they would start tearing your pictures only.
Aryasamajis create such uproar (hungama). Look, their Dayanand came recently. Now Dayanand came in the last, within 100-150 years ... It means that their kingdom exists only for one birth. Thereafter they perish. They do not have any power. They have power only to create uproars. Even if they rule, they create uproar. Even if they talk of religion, they create uproar. All these are for a short time. They should be shown in The Tree. They should be taken in front of the picture of The Tree; they should be shown – look, what is your status (aukaat)? You come only at the end of the Iron Age and you say that we are Aryans.
Now look – The Aryans were so prosperous in the Golden Age. Is there any defamation (glaani) of Lakshmi and Narayan in the scriptures? Tell if there is any defamation in the scriptures. One must challenge. And now? This Kaurav Congress Government that has emerged from the Kauravas is defamed in every house. So, there is no comparison between you and those deities, who are praised to be perfect in 16 celestial degrees (16 kalaa sampoorna), complete in all the virtues (sarva gun sampann), completely non-violent (sampoorna ahinsak), highest among all human beings in following the code of conduct (Maryadas Purushottam). So who is Arya? Who are Aryans and who are illiterates (anaari)? Judge.
You can tell them – The rule of Lakshmi-Narayan used to exist for centuries (sainkaron) and your rule is for five years; voting takes place; a government is formed and it disintegrates (or falls) within 5 years. It does not continue even for complete 5 years; the full term. So there is no comparison between that Government which was established by God and your Kaurav Congress Government. Nobody listens to anyone. The government is running on the basis of Police and its name itself is Police. Pol Is. Among all the departments (mahakmey), if there is any most corrupt department, it is the Police department. Today’s thieves and dacoits are not as dangerous as the Police. They (i.e. the thieves and the dacoits) commit dacoity openly. They (i.e. the dacoits) become visible and these (i.e. the policemen) do not even get caught ...(to be continued)
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04 Nov 2007by arjun
Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs
VCD* NO.356, DTD 2.12.05, SEHORE,
CLARIFICATION OF Murli DATED 13.1.67
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... So they should be caught nicely saying that – in your rule (raaj), the rulers themselves do not have any power. Go to any office. The entire machinery (tantra) is in the hands of the clerks. There is no power (satta) in the hands of the Officers. This is called – red tapism (laal feetashaahi). The entire work is got done by the one who deals with the files. The Officers do not know anything at all and even in that, those who (actually) work in every office are just two-four people, who work loyally and the remaining people keep loitering. Those two-four people who work keep getting overburdened. They do their own work and they do the work left by others also. There is nobody to take care. Those who loiter get promotions. So how shall there be any power in the Government? There is no truthfulness in the system. As the king, so do the subjects become.
So they must be explained in detail – You do not have any power. There is no power in this government. Why isn’t there any power? It is because the structure (dhaancha) of your government, this government adopts a secular state (dharmanirpeksha raajya). We have nothing to do with any religion. We want votes. You are a Hindu, a Muslim, a Sikh, a Christian – we have nothing to do with this. We have nothing to do with the fact whether you are a believer of a faith (dharma) or whether you are an adharmi (irreligious person). What does it mean? Why isn’t there any power? It is because they are not affiliated to any religion at all. The Government, which is not affiliated to any religion, cannot have any power.
There will certainly be power in the Government which follows one religion strongly. That is why, among all the Governments that exist in today’s world, which Government holds the superpower (mahaashakti)? Is it in the hands of the Islamic people; is it in the hands of the Buddhists; is it in the hands of the Christians; in whose hands does it exist? It is in the hands of the Christians. Even among them it appears that the division that has taken place among the Christians (i.e. Christian nations), the Russian part does not believe in the Bible. They do not believe in the Churches. It got disintegrated already. It is as if they became irreligious. So it is directly visible that the power that is contained in religion is not contained in anything else. Dharma (religion) means dharana (inculcation).
There is only one soul playing the greatest role, which inculcates all the great things in its life and tells the greatest things – he is called the soul playing the role of a hero (Hero Paartdhaari). Where does Hero Paartdhaari come from? Does he get revealed from the foreign countries or from India? India is the origin (mool) for everyone. Everyone knows that the name and trace of America was not present in the intellect of human beings 500 years ago. Everyone knows that the name or trace of Australia was also not present in the intellect 300 years ago. Similarly, this Africa, this Europe, and the countries like Japan etc. China etc. were all submerged under the ocean. The population of this world has increased within the last 2500 years. Since then the Earth has also undergone expansion. The meaning of Earth itself is – Prithuvyaati. The one which expands is called Prithvi, i.e. Earth. As the population of the world keeps increasing, the Earth keeps emerging from the base of the ocean. The part of Earth (i.e. land) keeps increasing. It keeps expanding. When there will be a new world, then it will be a world of 9 lakh living stars. The size of the Earth would remain very small. All these big continents (mahaadweep), the big land masses, wherever the big religions are prevalent would perish. The world population itself will remain very less. Only those souls will remain, which are 100 percent true (sachhi).
The lesser the percentage of inculcation (dharana), the lesser will be the length of the age of their souls. Everything depends on the dharana (inculcation). And among all the inculcations the main inculcation is of purity. All the tasks of the world take place on the basis of purity. Even today, the existence of the world is dependant on purity. Although the sins may increase to any length. This power of purity comes from the power of Yoga. Even the Yoga should be avyabhichaari (none but one). Licentiousness is not called Yoga. It should be called a break (tod); vyabhichaari means one who breaks (todney vaala), one who diverts/bends (modney vaala). Avyabhichaari means one who joins (jodney vaala). When the Yoga of intellect of the entire world gets connected to one, then the vibration of unity that will spread in the entire world will be the vibration of purity. Call it unity, call it purity, it is one and the same. Purity unites and impurity divides. The entire knowledge is embedded in it.
Whether it is a knowledeful person of the Advance Party, whether it is a Brahmin following the path of basic knowledge, whether it is a human being of the world, he can easily understand the definition as to what is a brothel (veshyaalay) and what is a Shivaalay –. In the Shivaalay the worship of one Shiv is depicted. That memorial (yaadgaar) is in India and in the foreign countries also. Shiv is the head of that temple-like house and all the idols of deities shown to be sitting around Him are the small and big members of that temple-like house. Everyone is sitting and worshipping one. Up aasanaa. ‘Up’ means close. ‘Aasan’ means a sitting posture. Eveybody’s intellect is sitting near one. Concentrating the intellect towards one in this way is like creating a new world. Dividing the intellect among many is like creating a hellish world for oneself.
Now whatever efforts we are making, whether it is through mind, intellect, words, vision or organs; now after coming into the path of knowledge, after becoming the child of Father, the more we perform licentious acts with them; through what? Vision, attitude, words and organs; the more do we create a hellish world for ourselves. We are making a choice of a hellish world. Although there are children following the path of Advanced Knowledge; even those following the Advanced Knowledge go to the hell in advance. It is not true that all those, who follow the Advanced Knowledge, will go to the heaven in advance. No. They are also shooting their 63 births and the 21 births.
The more we follow the Shrimat, the more will be the shooting (i.e. recording) for 21 births, the more will be the achievement. And the more we follow our own opinions, the more will be the hellish shooting for 63 births. It takes place for us. It is not taking place for others. Whatever we do remains with us. Now this knowledge has got expanded. For example, when a tree reaches full expanse (vistaar), then what comes at the end? When The Tree achieves complete expansion, then what emerges in the end? The essence (saar) comes. When the fruit also gets ripened then the essence, i.e. seed (beej) develops within it. That seed detaches itself from the entire tree (vriksha), from the roots (jad) also; it detaches itself from the stem (tanaa) also, it detaches itself from the branches (daaliyan) also, it detaches itself from the leaves (pattey) also and remains detached from the fruits (fal) and flowers (fool) also. So now is it a time to get detached or is it a time to get involved in attachment? Hm? (Someone said – detach) It is a time to get detached. Omshanti. [/color[color=blue]](Concluded)
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07 Nov 2007by arjun
Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs
VCD* NO.364, AUDIO CASSETTE NO.850, DATED 7.12.05, BANGALORE mini-Madhubans
CLARIFICATION OF NIGHT CLASS, Murli DATED 21.1.67 AND 23.1.67,
Ref. No.VCD*.,
Omshanti. The class that was being narrated was a night class dated 31st January, 1967, (no) 21st January. And at the beginning of the middle portion of the first page the matter being narrated was - Brahma's mouthborn progeny (mukhvanshavali) should certainly be in the beginning. Hm? And would those, who existed in the middle and those who are emerging in the end, not be called Brahma's mouthborn progeny? Hm? (Someone said - No) Why? (Someone said - Brahma does not exist) Brahma does not exist. Achha, Brahma existed in the beginning. So, when Brahma existed in the beginning and Brahma existed even upto 1968; so, Brahma's mouthborn progeny should exist till 1968, shouldn't they? But here it has been said - They existed in the beginning only. What? Brahma’s mouth born progeny should be in the beginning. What does it mean? The true mouth-born souls, who used to accept the versions emerging from the mouth, had come at the beginning of the Yagya only and departed. And such of those souls, who were in the beginning, are now coming again in the end. They know the importance (mahatwa) of Murli. They give preference (vareeyataa) to the versions emerging from the mouth. And the Brahmakumars who were born later on are not mouth born progeny. Which progeny are they? They are womb-born progeny (kukhvanshavali). They remembered the womb of Brahma; they remembered the lap of Brahma. Because of remembering the lap of Brahma, those womb-born Brahmins do not give any importance to the versions emerging from the mouth. Earlier also they did not used to give importance and even now, even now they do not give importance.
Look, first there are Brahmins. It is only those who became Brahmins first, that become deities in the end. All these are called Brahmakumar-kumaris. Now they are giving kingship (raajya-bhaagya). It is only then that we say that we are Brahmakumar-kumaris, is not it? One must give the introduction of the Father and the Creation nicely and it is the children alone who can give the introduction of the Father. Which children? Is it the mouthborn chidren or the womb-born children? Only the mouth-born children can give the introduction of Father. One must think and churn in this manner and adopt tactics. Father’s introduction must certainly be given. And He is everybody's Father. He definitely is everybody's Father but everyone does not recognize. Brahmins alone can give the introduction of Father. Those who are not strong Brahmins cannot give a strong introduction also. Brahma alone is the child of ShivBaba. Others? If one Brahma is the child, then are all others not children? Brahma alone is the child of ShivBaba and are not others children? Hm? (Everyone said - they are) Here it has been said - Brahma alone is the child of ShivBaba.
Prajapita is here, isn’t he? Where? Where there is Praja (subjects), there is Prajapita. He creates the Creation through Brahma. Who? Father Shiv enters into Prajapita and creates Brahmins through Brahma. Brahma is only called Prajapita. What does it mean? How many Brahmas are there? There are four-five Brahmas. Among them one is Prajapita Brahma and remaining ones are simply Brahma. Vishnu or Shankar is not called Prajapita. Why? Vishnu is a Subtle Region dweller deity and Shankar is also a Subtle Region dweller deity and what about Prajapita? He is a resident of the corporeal world. When he is in a subtle stage, he is said to be a deity among the three deities. So it must be explained like this.
Knowledge can be explained in the temples and on the banks of river Ganga also. The bestower of true salvation (sadgati data) upon everyone is one Father alone. All these points should be imbibed in the intellect. It is better to note. It must be memorized firmly. Then it will also be easy to explain. If it is memorized repeatedly, then there will be a lot of joy. Nobody can progress without service. What has been said? One has indeed become a Brahmin. OK, if not wombborn progeny, one has become mouthborn progeny, but even the mouth-born Brahmins can progress only when they remain in the field of service. Otherwise they cannot imbibe. It will not be easy to explain either. So every child should feel restless without service. By making many souls equal to yourself, on the one side your stage will be high and you will progress. What progress will you achieve? Hm? Those who are serviceable get respect in the Brahmin family here also and in future too, they get high post. So it is a progress, isn’t it? If you make many souls equal to yourself, then your position (martaba) will become high. Actually it should be ‘pass with honours.’ How big should be the position? The position should be ‘pass with honours’. Omshanti.
Night class of 23.1.67
Everyone considers God to be the Father. Nobody says about God that – God is our mother. Everyone considers God to be a Father. What do the so-called Brahmakumar-kumaris also think? They think that – We have found the Father through Dada Lekhraj. Although they do not know that – what does one get from the Father? What does one get from the Father? One takes birth through the Father and in the end one gets inheritance from the Father. Those Brahmins are in a misunderstanding (mugaaltey). They think that we have obtained inheritance from Brahma. Now we are not the Brahmins who beg. Now we are kings. Whatever you earn, give that income to us. Then we would uplift you Praja (subjects). But in the Confluence Age are all the Brahmin children sevadharis (servers) or the rulers? Until it is the Sangamyug (Confluence Age), Father is also sevadhari, the unique (ananya) children are also sevadharis and all Brahmins are also sevadharis. Nobody has obtained the seat (gaddi) of Father. The Father himself says that – Children I am your most obedient servant. So, we must not increase the level of our post (martaba) here. Our post will be high in the future 21 births ... (to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
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08 Nov 2007by arjun
Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs
VCD* NO.364, AUDIO CASSETTE NO.850, DATED 7.12.05, BANGALORE mini-Madhubans
CLARIFICATION OF NIGHT CLASS, Murli DATED 21.1.67 AND 23.1.67,
Ref. No.VCD*.,
... Everyone feels that - He is our Father. Even in English it is said - God Father. It is not said - God Mother. Well, if anyone is asked – “You say God Father. So, do you know the God Father?” When it is said – ‘God Father’, then certainly one would know the Father and Father's inheritance. If they know, then how can those who know say 'neti-neti'? 'Neti-neti' means we do not know his beginning, middle and end. There is no end for him. God Father is everybody's Father, is not He? He is a Father; He is a Creator; and what kind of a Creator is He? There cannot be any other such Creator in the world. What does He create? All the religious fathers came and this world went on becoming old. Nobody transformed this old world into a new world. This Creator Father is such that - when He comes, He creates a new world. He gives a new kingship (raajaai). He prepares a new kingdom. The new world is in the Golden Age. So certainly He would have to come at the end of the Iron Age. At the end of the Iron Age He transforms the old world and gives the inheritance of the new world. The old world is hell.
So transforming the old world hell into heaven – this cannot be done by anyone except one Father. He does it practically and then departs. What? He transforms the hell into heaven and then departs and He gives the inheritance of heaven also while living in the midst of the hellish world. What? It is not that - when the entire hellish world gets destroyed, then the inheritance of heaven would be received in the form of child Krishna - He does not teach such knowledge also. What does He teach? I transform you from a man to Narayan here in this birth itself in this world itself and Narayan would be the master of the world. He gives the kingship of the world (vishwa kee baadshaahi). World (vishwa) means that all the religions are included in it. He is the Father of every religion. Every religious Father accepts that Father as God Father. So these are so easy matters.
Nobody would call this world as heaven. This is called - old world, Iron Age. One must explain – “When you say ‘God Father’, then you should receive the inheritance of Golden Age, shouldn't you? He is God Father; it is said - God Father is truth - so, He would give the inheritance of the land of truth (sachkhand), wouldn't He? He destroys the false world and creates a world of truth. Definitely the children must have received it, but some children cannot understand such an easy thing and cannot even explain to others - He is the one to establish the land of truth. He comes in this world and establishes the land of truth in corporeal form and He comes and gives us the inheritance of the land of truth; He gives the inheritance of heaven and destroys the hellish world and then departs.
When did the heaven exist - nobody comes to know about it at all. It is the Father alone who comes and tells that when did the heaven exist in this world. Otherwise, what do people belonging to all the religions think about heaven? The heaven is situated above. It was above; it does not exist now. Hindus also think - the heaven was situated above and hell might be underground (paataal). Well, it is not so. This is the only world. When the same world is pure, satopradhan, it is Golden Age, it is heaven. There is a rule of truth and when the same world becomes degraded (taamsi), it becomes a hell.
Every thing, every human being in the world is at first satopradhan (completely pure), then rajo (partially impure) and tamo (completely impure) in the end. There is nothing in the world that does not pass through the four stages. So, this world also passes through four stages. It does pass (through the four stages), but who is the one to transform it? These bodily religious gurus do not bring about transformation. Yes, they cause transformation to the extent that - they cause the downfall of the world which was in a high stage. They bring about its rapid downfall. Initially, in the Golden and Silver Ages the world used to experience downfall at a slow pace and ever since these bodily religious gurus, religious fathers came, the world started witnessing downfall quickly. So they do cause transformation but they do not cause the upliftment (utthaan) of the world. Neither the upliftment of the world takes place nor does the upliftment of the human souls take place. So nobody comes to know.
We even know, it has also been written in the scriptures that – Lakshmi and Narayan were the masters of the world. This has definitely fitted into the intellect and Lakshmi & Narayan must have certainly received the kingship from the Father. It is also fitted into the intellect of those Gitapaathi Brahmins, who read Gita, because the aim itself is given in Gita, what? Man Arjun should perform such actions that he gets transformed from a man to Narayan and woman Draupadi should perform such actions that she gets transformed from a woman to Lakshmi. So, it is also fitted into the intellect that – the Father, who transforms a man to Narayan, a woman to Lakshmi must have certainly existed; but what is the mistake that has been committed? Hm? (Someone said –Krishna, the God of Gita....) Yes. In The Knowledge of Gita, in that knowledge of Gita, the name of Krishna has been inserted as the name of the Creator. Well, the name of child Krishna has been inserted; so, it is like an abuse (gaali). The God Father has also been humiliated. The child has been made to sit as the husband of the mother. A cruelty (zulma) has been done. When such an atrocity (zulma) takes place on the God Father also and when such an atrocity takes place on the mother also, then this world becomes a terrible hell (ghor nark).
They know that – These Lakshmi and Narayan must have received the kingship from the Father. Achha, where does the God Father live? The heavenly God Father comes and creates heaven, but where does he come from? They would say – from the Soul World. So, when the Father is a resident of the Supreme Abode, so, you children too are residents of of which place? It would certainly be said that we are residents of the Soul World. Because of posssesing a demoniac intellect, they are not able to think in this manner after understanding. The Father explains in such a simple way ... (to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
Posted:
09 Nov 2007by arjun
Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs
VCD* NO.364, AUDIO CASSETTE NO.850, DATED 7.12.05, BANGALORE mini-Madhubans
CLARIFICATION OF NIGHT CLASS, Murli DATED 21.1.67 AND 23.1.67,
Ref. No.VCD*.,
... Now children have come to know that - we are definitely obtaining inheritance of ShivBaba through Brahma. What is ShivBaba's inheritance? Hm? Mukti (salvation) and jeevanmukti (true salvation). Salvation (i.e. liberation) from what? Salvation from sorrows and pains and jeevanmukti. The life (jeevan) should also exist; a healthy life must exist and we should keep experiencing pleasures. There should not be any name or trace of sorrows. The Father comes and gives such an inheritance. So we obtain this inheritance of ShivBaba through Brahma. We obtain through Brahma! Brahma has left the body. Then, how would we obtain inheritance through Brahma? Certainly Brahma is the name of many. Brahma is not the name of just one person. And the persons who are named Brahma are temporary chariots and one is a Brahma with a permanent Chariot and the Brahma, who possesses a permanent Chariot is called 'Prajapita Brahma'. Prajapita Brahma also requires a mother. What for? In order to grant the inheritance to the children.
This one, who is sitting is an ordinary body. Either mixturity has been done in it or it can be inferred that - when Prajapita gets revealed in front of the world as Prajapita, when the entire world would accept him as its Father, as Adam or Aadam, then would his form be ordinary (saadhaaran) or extraordinary (asaadhaaran)? Will it be ordinary? It would become extraordinary. This ordinary form would vanish. It has been said like this in the Avyakt Vani also, has it not? What? This ordinary form would vanish slowly and when the Father of the world (Vishwapita) gets revealed before the entire world in the form of World Father, he will have an extraordinary form. At that time the soul would have become perfect. The entry of Father Shiv will not be established. So it has been said - Prajapita would not be ordinary. He is as if ShivBaba. Who? Prajapita. He is as if ShivBaba. It means that he is not ShivBaba. 'As if ShivBaba' means that he would have attained a stage equal to that of the Father.
All the souls are the children of ShivBaba. Everyone is the progeny of Prajapita Brahma also. Who all are the children? All the human beings, the entire mankind (manushyamaatra) is the progeny of Prajapita and all the souls are the children of Shiv. So, definitely someone else is ordinary, who is not Prajapita Brahma. This matter pertains to which period? This Vani pertains to which year? 1967. It has been said - Everyone is the progeny of Prajapita Brahma also. He would not be ordinary. 'Would' refers to which period? A mention has been made about the future. So definitely someone else is ordinary, who is not Prajapita Brahma. 'Is not' refers to which period? A mention is being made about 1967 that the body in which He is entering and speaking is ordinary. He was ordinary, wasn't he? Who? Brahma. He was not Prajapita. Because of possessing a stone-like intellect nobody understands. Who wasn't Prajapita? Whatever task was accomplished through Dada Lekhraj would not be called (the task of) Prajapita.
Now you understand that - Definitely India was heaven. Certainly the Father might have given them the inheritance. Whom? To Prajapita or to Bhaarat. India was heaven. Certainly the Father might have given him the inheritance. A very long age (duration) has been mentioned in the scriptures. You children know - This Dada is also learning Rajyog and is going to become Krishna. This is the same soul of Krishna is sitting here after having taken 84 births. He alone is called - 'Saanwara, gaon ka chora' (the village lad with a dark complexion). Krishna of Golden Age cannot be a village lad (gaon ka chora) at all. But it is that soul is not it? It is also sung - saanwara, gaon ka chora. How can Krishna be called so? Which Krishna? How can Krishna of Golden Age be called a village lad? He is the master of the world; on what basis can we call him (a village lad)? Whom? He is the master of the world; on what basis can we call him a village lad, the one who steals butter? It has been asked. It has not been told. On what basis can we call him (a village lad)? Now sit and tell the basis (hisaab or account). Which account? The one (i.e. Krishna) belonging to the Golden Age neither eats cream, nor steals it. Which period does it refer to?
When the soul of Brahma leaves the body in the Confluence Age, it enters into a Brahmin child. That Brahmin child, the same soul, which was Prajapita in the beginning of the Yagya. The soul of Krishna enters into Prajapita in his next birth and after entering into him, he is praised as the Confluence-Aged Krishna in the world. Then it becomes a village lad. The Gopis prepare nice inheritor-like butter (vaarisdaar roopi makkhan) in the (path of) basic knowledge; He steals those nice balls of butter of the (path of) basic knowledge and brings them to the Advance Party. So this way he steals the cream. They thought that - he must have stolen cream; he must have broken gross pots (sthool mataki).
Now you children have become so intelligent (samajhdaar). You are learning about the beginning, middle and end of the entire world. It is as if the entire world is in front of your intellect. The Knowledge of the beginning, middle and end of the entire tree is contained in your intellect. The Father says - By knowing 'me' and 'my creation', you can become the Masters of the entire world. By knowing what all? Hm? The Father and the Father's creation. Who is the creation? Who is the creation of the Father? The soul of Krishna. Does the creation take place practically or is it just for namesake? Krishna practically becomes the child in the Golden Age, doesn't he? So 'me' and 'my creation'. ‘Me’ means the Creation. Supreme Soul Shiv cannot be called the Creator. The relationship of Creator and Creation is a matter of corporeal world. So, by learning about 'me' and 'my creation' you can become the Master of the entire world. The main thing is - the soul, which is sinful should certainly become pure. Until a soul has not become completely pure, the complete knowledge of the Creator and the Creation cannot remain in the intellect. Maya will keep removing The Knowledge ...(to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
Posted:
10 Nov 2007by arjun
Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs
VCD* NO.364, AUDIO CASSETTE NO.850, DATED 7.12.05, BANGALORE mini-Madhubans
CLARIFICATION OF NIGHT CLASS, Murli DATED 21.1.67 AND 23.1.67,
Ref. No.VCD*.,
... Knowledge is very cheap, easy. Look, there is so much expenditure (kharcha) involved in that worldly knowledge and there is no expenditure in this Godly knowledge. Arey! Is there no expenditure involved? If someone does not possess money, then cannot he obtain this knowledge? He can obtain. So where is the expenditure involved? If someone is a Crorepati (One who possesses one crore rupees), he can also obtain knowledge. If someone hides his crore (rupees) in his armpit (kaankh) and say - I want the inheritance of the kingship of the world. Then would he not get it? Hm? (Someone said - He would get) He would get. How? Hm? (Someone said - By making efforts) But he did not offer his wealth. (Someone said - through his mind and intellect) Wherever there is wealth, the mind would go there. If the wealth is kept in the bank, then the intellect would go towards the bank. If the money has been invested in a business (dhandha), then the intellect would go towards the business. Then how would one receive the inheritance of the kingship of the world? So is The Knowledge costly or is it cheap? Hm? (Someone said - It is costly for the Crorepati) It is costly for the Crorepatis, Arabpatis (billionaires) and it is easy for the poor ones. The poor ones have emerged very clever! So there is a lot of expenditure involved in that knowledge, which is a worldly knowledge. There is no expenditure involved in this (knowledge). Only hard work (mehnat) is involved in it. What? Only hard work is involved in this knowledge. Which hard work is involved? (The hard work of) remembering the Father. Now, did you understand why the Crorepatis aren’t able to obtain the inheritance? Hm? Their intellect would be busy in their crores (of amount). They would not be able to remember the Father through the intellect. When they would not be able to remember the Father then they would not be able to do the hard work of remembrance. When they would not be able to do the hard work of remembrance, then they woud not get the inheritance. So the only hard work involved is to remember the Father.
Until we do not become pure, how can we become the master of the pure world? When would we become Masters? (Someone said - pure...) A condition has been laid - If the intellect becomes pure, if the body becomes pure, if the body becomes disease-free (nirogi kaya), then one would become the Master of the world. If it is not so, then one would not become. The body should also be pure and the mind should also be pure and the wealth that has been earned, the Godly wealth (Eeshwariya dhan) should also be pure. There is purity and impurity involved in the Godly wealth also. Some narrate a lot of knowledge. They narrate The Knowledge but they remove the Father. They narrate the entire knowledge of the Father and remove the Father in between, from The Knowledge. They do not reveal the Father. They reveal themselves to garner praises (vaahvaahi) from the public. Aha! He narrates knowledge very nicely. She narrates knowledge very nicely. So, did he/she attract towards himself/herself or towards the Father? He/she attracted (others) towards himself/herself. So whatever the Gurus, the bodily Gurus did in the 63 births. They did not enable the establishment of connection of the intellect with God. In whom did they enable the connection? They enabled the connection in themselves. So the same shooting takes place. So The Knowledge becomes degraded. So until the intellect does not become pure; until one does not become pure through the body, through the mind, through the wealth, he/she cannot become the master of the world.
Baba explains so much regarding remembrance. Earlier you used to remember the lokik Father. What should you do now in spite of having a lokik (worldly) Father? Although lokik Father is alive, remember the paarlokik Father (one who resides in the Supreme Abode). Some say - how should we remember? Lokik Father is not following the path of knowledge. We are following the path of alokik knowledge, we have become Brahmins, but the (lokik) Father does not believe. If we do not follow him, then we would not get the inheritance of lakhs and crores. So how should we remember? Hm? How should we remember the Paarlokik Father in spite of having the lokik Father? (Someone said - through the mind and intellect) Should we remember through the mind and intellect! The mind and intellect is getting diverted that side; he would not give any share in the property. This Godly knowledge is not fitting into his intellect. In whose intellect? In the intellect of the lokik Father. And it is fitting into our intellect. So he is not going to give us the lokik inheritance. Then what should we do? How should we remember? Arey! Arey the intellect has understood, hasn’t it – the Father has come to give us the inheritance of prosperity and peace for many births and this lokik Father (gives the inheritance of) one birth, that too (it is not sure that) may be stolen by the thief, burnt by fire, taken away by the Government in the form of income tax. Nothing is sure. So it should fit into the intellect – there is no comparison between the imperishable inheritance (avinaashi varsa) and this perishable inheritance (vinaashi varsa). Can you remember? Nobody knows the unlimited Paarlokik Father except you.
Father is truth (Sat), living (chaitanya) and He is the ocean of knowledge (gyaan ka saagar). What? He is truth, (Someone said – He is living ...) Achha! So what should be done to prove it? Let us prepare the picture of a point (bindi), let us prepare a ling around the point and write all around it – He is the true Father; He is the true teacher and He is the true preceptor (Satguru). (Someone said something) Hm? Yes. ‘He is living’ (chaitanya) means that he is not a point. If he is only a point, if he is not a body, then he is as if non-living thing (jadvat). If a soul does not get a body, then it is like an inert thing. When the soul assumes a body, then it becomes living. So the Father is truth, living. What is the definition of 'living' (chaitanya)? It must speak and move (boltaa-chaaltaa). It must speak and also move. That would be called living. He is an ocean of knowledge. What? An ocean of knowledge. Just as no human being has been able to measure the depths of ocean. Similarly, nobody can measure the (depth of) ocean of knowledge. Nobody knows how deep is He in The Knowledge. He is an ocean of knowledge.
The body is made up of five non-living elements. A soul is a soul. What is this soul made up of? Nobody would be able to say anything. A soul is without any beginning (anaadi), it is imperishable (avinaashi). It is such a small soul and plays such (a big) part while living in the middle of the eyebrows (bhrikuti). All these matters are new. These matters are not mentioned in the scriptures ... (to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
Posted:
11 Nov 2007by arjun
Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs
VCD* NO.364, AUDIO CASSETTE NO.850, DATED 7.12.05, BANGALORE mini-Madhubans
CLARIFICATION OF NIGHT CLASS, Murli DATED 21.1.67 AND 23.1.67,
Ref. No.VCD*.,
.... You children must realize yourself to be a soul and remember the Father also like this. How? We are also points of light souls and our Father is also a living point of light. He is truth (sat), living (chit), blissful (aanandmay), ocean of knowledge (gyaan ka Sakar). Only when He creates the waves (hilorey or surge) of knowledge that he would be proved to be an ocean. If He does not create the waves of knowledge; Maya has to be faced with the waves of knowledge. When a cyclone (toofaan) occurs, very high tides (oonchi lahrein) are formed in the ocean. Those high tides face the cyclone. The more the wrath of Maya increases, the ocean of knowledge assumes the more fierce form.
You children must consider yourself to be a soul. You must know that how much knowledge is contained in the point. A seed is small. A mustard seed (sarson ka dana) or poppy seed (khas-khas ka dana) is so small. OK, that seed is also very small; its plant is also small and what about the Banyan tree (bargad)? The seed of Banyan Tree (bad) is very small and The Tree (darakht) is very big. The Father explains to you children in such an easy way. The Father says – You are also a soul and I am also a soul. I am supreme. What? I play a role of supremacy. You cannot play the part of supremacy to that extent with your organs. You cannot play the role of supremacy even with your mind, even with your speech and even with your bodily organs. I play the role of supremacy. That is why in my remembrance the ling is shown to be big. And in remembrance of you children the shaligram (a unique spherical black holy stone worshipped in Hindu temples and obtained from riverbeds) is made small in size. Otherwise, how can it be known that who played how big a role?
All these matters are new. You call me as the Supreme Soul, don't you? There is no other human being, whose intellect contains The Knowledge of The Tree. Hm? There is no human being. There is no other human being in this world, in whose intellect contains The Knowledge of The Tree. Why? Why does it not contain? Hm? (Someone said - He does not enter The Cycle of birth and death) No. All the souls enter The Cycle of birth and death. (Someone said something) Is the (knowledge of the) entire Tree of human world is contained in the one whom you call as the Supreme Father Supreme Soul? Hm? Is the (knowledge of the) entire tree of the human world contained in Him? No. When that Supreme Soul enters into the Father of the human world, who is the seed of the entire human world, after entering into that seed, the entire knowledge undergoes expansion (vistaar). One can know the entire information as to how much, where, which kind of expanse is contained in which soul of the entire human world.
This itself is called easy remembrance (sahaj Yaad). It means that there is no other human being, whose intellect contains The Knowledge of the entire Tree. The Knowledge of the entire tree has got assimilated in your intellect. So there is no other human being (whose intellect contains The Knowledge of The Tree). 'It is contained in your intellect' – what does it mean? Hm? There is no other human being in whose intellect the entire knowledge is contained. It is contained in your intellect. What does it mean? These are two conflicting statements – This knowledge is not contained in the intellect of the entire mankind and it is contained in your intellect. Why has it been said so? It has been said so because when the Father speaks in this way, then there is only one soul in the intellect of the Father. Who? Prajapita. That is why it has been said – it is contained in your intellect. The Knowledge of the entire Tree is not contained in the intellect of any other human being. This is called – Easy remembrance. It is the easy remembrance of the Father and the inheritance.
You children are not babies. What? This Brahma is a baby, but you children are not babies. Why is this Brahma a baby? And why aren’t you babies? Hm? (Someone said – child-like intellect) Why does he possess a child-like intellect (bachha-buddhi)? Why does he possess a child-like intellect and why do you not possess a child-like intellect? It is because since the beginning of this world, when he comes in this world, he comes as a child. The beginning of the role of that soul on this world stage takes place as a child only. It is not able to understand the depths of knowledge at all and you are the ancestors (poorvaj) of this entire human world, you are the fathers. This entire human world takes birth through you.
From whom would Krishna and the four and a half lakh (deities of the) generation of Krishna take birth? They would take birth from you children. So you are fathers and they possess a child-like intellect. So this knowledge cannot enter into the intellect of those who possess a child-like intellect. Why can’t it enter? Are they not human beings? They are indeed human beings. Don’t they become deities? They indeed become deities. They why does it not enter into their intellect? (Someone said – They do not take complete 84 births) Hm? (50 years get reduced from his part) Yes, because that soul is such that they have taken complete 84 births, but their duration gets reduced a little from the world cycle.
When a period of 50 years gets reduced from the (part of the) soul of Krishna himself, what? From 1967, 68 to 1969 to 2018, fifty years got reduced. So how many years would get reduced for all the Krishna-like children who would take birth after him? Would it be less than 50 years or more than that? It would get reduced by more than that duration. So, can there be a comparison between the souls playing an all round part and the souls whose role gets cut a little in between? So, there will be a difference, isn’t it?
In which aspect will there be a difference? There will be a difference in obtaining experience – in obtaining the experience of the world. And what will be the biggest difference? It has been said – the one who remains till the end, is considered to have done everything (jisnay ant kiya, unsay sab kuchh kiya). So the souls like Radha and Krishna, who take birth as children, will not be able to see the end of the world through these eyes; that is why they possess a child-like intellect. And you? You see the end of the entire world through these eyes. When this world consisting of 500 – 700 crore souls ends, then that world will end in front of your eyes and nose. And you will remain joyful. No danger will befall you. So you are experienced (anubhavi) and they possess baby-like intellect (babybuddhi). ...(to be continued)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
Posted:
12 Nov 2007by arjun
Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs
VCD* NO.364, AUDIO CASSETTE NO.850, DATED 7.12.05, BANGALORE mini-Madhubans
CLARIFICATION OF NIGHT CLASS, Murli DATED 21.1.67 AND 23.1.67,
Ref. No.VCD*.,
....So what is the difference between you and the Father? Hm? Tell. You children listen face to face and the souls like Brahma, the souls like Radha & Krishna do not listen face to face. They enter (into someone) and then listen. The soul, which enters, can be sanmukh (face to face) as well as vimukh (not face to face). How? When it enters, then because of the colour (influence) of the company it is face to face and when it does not enter, when it enters into (the body) of a soul like Gulzar Dadi, then it can also be vimukh, because it possesses a child-like intellect, does it not? A child gets influenced by the colour of the company more. So what is the difference between you and the Father? That soul of the Father is knowledgeful, completely pure. You are making efforts to become pure.
Now The Cycle of 84 births is about to complete. Now we have to go home. Where do we have to go? Home. When do we have to go? Hm? Arey! When do we have to go home? Now? Do we have to go now or do we have to go later? It is persistently asked in the Avyakt Vanis – are you ever ready? Then he says – Advance Party is ever ready. So have you packed up your bag and baggage? Hm? Or is there any delay in packing up? Then they ask – How much time is required? Do you require 6 months? Do you require 1 year? How much time do you want? So he keeps putting off. The time moves ahead. Now The Cycle of 84 births is going to end. Now we have to proceed to our home (ghar). The drama is about to end. Even if you remain in this joy, then so much benefit can be reaped. In which joy? It is in the joy that we have to proceed home. Now this drama of sorrows is going to end. Even amongst yourselves keep talking these matters only. You must not get invloved more in the rest of the wasteful matters. Hm? You must not get involved more? It means you can get involved a little bit. Why should we get involved a little bit? One must not get involved much. Where is the necessity to get involved even a little bit? Hm? It is because everybody’s karmic accounts (hisaab-kitaab) of 63 births are going to end together. Will everyone proceed towards home together or will there be a difference of 2, 4 years? Everyone will go together to the Father’s home. So one should not get involved more in the wasteful matters. You cannot get such company at your home.
It strikes the intellect that these poor fellows are cranes (baguley). Who? In this world swans (hans) and cranes are together. And when you go home, then there will not be any crane there. To which home will you proceed first? (Someone said Shantidhaam, i.e. the abode of peace). You will go to Shantidhaam. Shantidhaam is also of two kinds – one is up (oopar vala, i.e. situated above) and one is below (neechey vala, i.e. situated on this Earth). Will you proceed to the lower one first? (Someone said ‘Yes’). So, there will not be the company of cranes there. And cranes will not be able to go there. What has been said? This fortress (kilaa) of Pandavas will become such that no vicious person will be able to enter into it. And now? What is the condition now at Mount Abu? Hm? Now the vicious persons also enter very easily. Poor cranes do not know anything. For e.g. a highly educated person will consider a farmer to be a poor fellow (bechaara). When compared to the literate human beings, the person working in the fields is like a poor person. So, similarly you have studied the Godly knowledge very a lot. And those cranes who come in front of you now; where? At Abu, the house of Abba (Father). They are poor fellows. You are not poor fellows. Now you understand that – who is this poor Prime Minister, etc.? Hm? At that time Indira Gandhi must have been the Prime Minister. So it has been said – Who is this poor Prime Minister, etc.? Can she possess The Knowledge that the first Lakshmi-Narayan possessed? She can never possess The Knowledge that the first Lakshmi and Narayan possessed. One gets a lot of pleasure by talking to oneself enthusiastically like this. One feels thrilled.
The Father says – I have come to liberate all the children from the kingdom of Ravan. Who do I have come to liberate? It is to liberate the children. Hm? 'All the children' refers to how many children? Hm? Is it 9 lakhs? Is it four and a half lakhs? The four and a half would go. Those who have become souls would only go. Who would go to the Father’s home? Would those, who have become souls, go first or would those who are body conscious, go first? Those who have become souls would depart first. So there would not be cranes at the place where the children, who would have become souls, would go. There would be only the swans that pick up gems of knowledge. There would be a gathering of swans. I liberate them from the kingdom of Ravan. I have come to liberate from sorrows, haven’t I? The Father has come to give pleasures to the children. So, one feels so joyful!
His soul also says – I also feel very joyful. Hm? Why has ‘also’ been added by him? Hm? Why has ‘also’ been added for the soul of Brahma? His soul also says. ‘His’ refers to ‘whom’? The soul of Brahma also says – I also feel very joyful. What? Arey! You feel joyful, but I also feel very joyful. What makes him joyful? Hm? What makes him joyful? Does he feel joyful in leaving the body while making efforts? Hm? (Someone said – the joy of becoming the Father’s child) Yes. Brahma Baba feels happy – I am going to be the lone son of the Father. What? What has been said for Brahma now? It has been said above, isn’t it? This Brahma is the lone child. There would not be any other son born to the Father there. Would the son born in the Golden Age be the lone son or would two-four sons take birth? He is the lone seekiladha (long lost and found) son of the Father.
So Brahma is very intoxicated that I am the lone child of the Emperor of the world. His soul also says – I feel very happy. I am the lone child, am I not? All these (children) are obtaining inheritance from the Father. I am also obtaining from the Father. Baba teaches them. Baba teaches them; so, I also study. Who said this? Brahma Baba says – Baba teaches them. He does not teach me and even if he teaches me, let him continue to teach, I am not going to study. What? Does the soul of Brahma study – how does one obtain the kingship of the new world? How would one receive the kingship of the world through Rajyog? Does it study or not? Does it study? If it studies, then it should receive the kingship of the world. If it does not study then there is no question of receiving (the kingship of the world) at all. So he possesses a baby-like intellect. In order to study The Knowledge of the kingship of the world, the intellect should be pure (saalim). What kind of an intellect is required? It should be pure. So, it is such a wonder that – Baba teaches them and I also study.
If we remain introvert (antarmukhi) in a good manner then we can be so happy. We get refreshed very nicely while we are sanmukh (i.e. in front of Baba). What? Listening to the same knowledge through tape recorder; seeing or listening through VCD* or DVD and listening the same knowledge face to face; listening to the same knowledge when someone reads out the Murli or when someone is listening by reading oneself. So is there a difference between all the three or not? There is a difference between all the three. The face-to-face study is first class. And the study through tape recorder or VCD* is second-class and The Knowledge, which is heard after reading out oneself or is narrated by someone, then that is third class. So, we children are most lucky. Wherever we go, we say – BapDada, through whom we become the master of inheritance, is coming.
So He narrates the most-simple things and why do these simple matters also do not fit into the intellect of the children? If they understand, then they would keep experiencing the supersensuous pleasure (ateendriy sukh). The dose is such that it should create intoxication. The dose of this imperishable knowledge is received in only one birth. It would not be received again. This is called spiritual knowledge. It is sung, “Manushya say devataa kiye karat na laagee vaar.” (It does not take any time to get transformed from a human being to a deity) It takes such a short time for the rising state (chadhti kalaa) and how much time does it take for the degrading state (utartee kalaa)? Hm? 5000 years. And in the rising state? It takes one second. It involves a lot of hard work to get transformed from tamo (impure) to satopradhaan (pure). Achha, Omshanti to the children. (Concluded)
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Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words in italics are Hindi words.
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14 Nov 2007by arjun
Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs
VCD* No.770, Audio Cassette No.1256, dated 29.09.07, at Nagpur
Clarification of Murli dated 21.01.68 (for BKs)
Ref. No.VCD*.,
Omshanti. The Vani of morning class dated 21st January, 1968 was going on. At the end of the middle portion of the first page the matter being narrated was – those who tread (the path of knowledge) in a first class way will be said to be under the influence of Jupiter (brihaspati ki dasha). Whose influence (dasha)? Brihaspati’s influence. He is also called vrikshapati. It means that the one, who is the seed of the entire tree, will belong to which dynasty (vansh)? He will belong to the Sun Dynasty because the Father, the Sun of Knowledge Himself comes in this world and gives knowledge first of all and the person whom He gives knowledge is considered to be the first among all planets. He is called – Vrikshapati or Brihaspati. There are nine planets, isn’t it? They are numberwise. It is considered that there are nine categories of Brahmins. Those categories were also started by 9 sages (rishis). Only the one who is pure is said to be a rishi and even in purity there are numberwise grades. The first class children are under the influence of the numberone grade among them.
It has been said – it would be certainly said to be the influence of Jupiter (Brihaspati); then suddenly the storm of Maya comes. When there is the influence of Jupiter, then why do the storms of Maya come suddenly? It will also be said to be the karmic accounts of one’s past births. As was the company of the elevated or degraded souls in the 63 births, so is their influence. So, even here in the shooting period, this reel keeps rotating. Suddenly, the dasha (influence) changes, but who is instrumental in changing this dasha? Why does this dasha change suddenly? Who is responsible for this? Banee banaayee ban rahee ab kachu ban-ni naay (Whatever has been pre-determined is being enacted. Nothing new is to be enacted). We ourselves have performed actions in 63 births and we ourselves have changed the colour of company. So, whoever has changed the colour of company in whatever form, and have got coloured by the company, so is the influence (dasha). So, suddenly the storm of Maya comes. When one is in the influence of the first planet among the 9 planets, then one treads (the path of knowledge) in a first class way, and after that when one gets coloured by the company of the remaining eight planets, which are the planets of descending celestial degrees or numberwise ascending celestial degrees, Maya keeps catching.
When the storm emerges, then [they] say – Baba, the intoxication of our joy seems to be a little less. What is meant by ‘a little less’? It means that the influence/stage (dasha) has not fallen very much. It has not become the influence/stage (dasha) of the lowermost planet. One has slipped to a little lower stage. It happens like that in the income/earnings also. In the income/earnings also the stage (dasha) keeps changing and this is an imperishable income/earning. In this also the stages (dasha) change. When the stages (dasha) change, when Maya makes us fall completely, then some write - Baba we have blackened our face. How does a face become fair and how does a face become dark/black? The face becomes fair at the beginning of the Golden Age, when one becomes completely pure and the face becomes black in the dark Iron Age. When the influence (dasha) the last planet i.e. Rahu is cast on everyone . Then in the shooting period, as and when, whoever keeps ataining the stage of or keeps getting influenced by whichever planet, the influence/fate (dasha) changes in the same way. Then they say – Baba, pardon us. We have blackened our face. The Father would say – the lowermost planet has influenced you. Which is the lowest planet? There is an influence of Rahu.
There is the Sun Dynasty. From the sun, his dynasty emerges. After that, which is the second number planet? After the Sun is the Moon and Rahu swallows/influences even the Moon. When does he influence? When moon becomes complete or is about to become (complete), then on the day of no-moon (amavasya) Maya eclipses. When the moon is crooked, (Maya) does not eclipse. It eclipses the complete moon. It means that whether it is those who belong to the Sun Dynasty (Suryavanshi), whether it is those who belong to the Moon Dynasty (Chandravanshi), or to any other dynasty; when they become stronger (rustom), then Maya catches them in a stronger way . Except the Suryavanshis, the company of all others makes us meet Maya.
Indulging in lust means the influence (dasha) of Rahu. It makes us fall from the 5th floor and now at the end of the Iron Age, there is an influence (dasha) of Rahu on the entire world. Why? Why is the entire world under the influence (dasha) of Rahu? It is because except one Sun of Knowledge, the colour of the company of all others causes downfall. Nobody uplifts. Among the 9 planets, it is only the Sun – ‘the Sun of Knowledge Shiv’ who enters into the guru of the deities, the sadguru. The colour of his company is certainly unique. Good company puts one across and bad company drowns one. All other planets are numberwise and the influence (dasha) of all of them causes downfall to some extent or the other. That is why the Father says – one ShivBaba and none else.
First of all, you experience happiness. What? In the beginning of the Golden Age, first of all, you experience complete happiness then, under whose influence will you be? You come under the influence (dasha) of vrikshapati. You come. Who does ‘you’ refer to? They , who come in the list of those who cause defamation of the Sadguru and do not achieve the destination, are not called ‘you’. They become instrumental in causing defamation of the Sadguru in their effort-making life. So, what will be their fate in the end? Will they achieve the accommodation/place or will they become homeless (beghar)? They will not be able to become [the children] of God and they will leave the Father and go. How many will remain? Those who will be under the influence (dasha) of one vrikshapati in the end and in the beginning of the world , the ones who will live under the canopy (chatrachaya) of one and will not be under the canopy of anyone else. All of them will be influenced by one. Influenced means praja [subject]. Whose praja? They will be included in the praja (subjects) of that highest on high one, who becomes the highest on high, who is the master of the world. Those children have been addressed as ‘you’.
‘You’ means those who study The Knowledge sitting face to face (sanmukh). There are two meanings of sanmukh too. For namesake someone may be sitting face to face. Internally they are full of anger (bukhaar). They are full of contradiction/paradox (virodhabhaas). Then will they be said to be sitting face to face (sanmukh) in an unlimited sense or will they be said to be sitting with their faces turned away (vimukh)? They will also be called vimukh. The ones who have opposite thoughts while sitting face to face, they become even more of an opposite intellect (to the Father) and get destroyed (vipreetbuddhi vinashyanti) by going in the outside world and they become instrumental in causing defamation of the sadguru. So, now the entire world is under the influence of Rahu and you children who are sitting face to face are under the influence of Jupiter (Brihaspati). Then they too are numberwise. Some are under the 100 percent influence of one Father whereas some are influenced (by the Father) in percentage. The vrikshapati God sits and teaches you children ...(to be continued)
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Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. The words in brackets are words added by the translator for better understanding of the translation in English.