Extracts of ShivBaba's Murli (via Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) - as narrated to the PBKs
VCD* NO.322, DATED 13.10.05, GORAKHPUR,
CLARIFICATION OF Murli DATED 2.1.67
No.VCD*
2nd January, 1967. In the middle of the second page, the matter being discussed was - It is said - O Purifier of the sinful ones, come! 'Come' means that He must have come at some point of time. Why had He come? The title 'Purifier of the sinful ones' is prefixed. Do titles exist in the corporeal world or does the title belong to the incorporeal? (Someone said - corporeal) Titles are assumed in the corporeal world. So the title of Purifier of the sinful ones is granted by the incorporeal to the corporeal. When He enters into the corporeal, then He gets the title and He does not come as per the proverb, 'Aaya Ram Gayaa Ram' (Ram came and went away) or like the arrival and departure of other religious fathers. They narrated matters of knowledge, delivered lectures and departed after narrating knowledge. They established their own inculcations (dhaarnaaen or ways of life) and departed. The world did not get transformed. All the souls went on experiencing downfall. They themselves had come from above; they kept experiencing downfall and continued to cause the downfall of their companions and accomplices also. And the souls, the deity souls that were already present, also went on experiencing downfall under the influence of their company. The Supreme Soul does not do so. For Him it is famous - 'Patit-Paavan Sita Ram' (Sita & Ram, the purifier of the sinful ones).
Certainly He enters into the personality of Sita and Ram and purifies the sinful ones. Why is the name of Sita uttered first? Why is the name of Ram uttered later? (A Brother said - He takes the support of a mother first). He takes the support of a mother first! Does He take the support of a mother first to narrate knowledge or to lay the foundation of Bhakti? (Someone said - He takes the support of the mother to lay the foundation of Bhakti). So the true salvation (sadgati) is not caused by Bhakti. Bhakti causes degradation and knowledge causes true salvation. So, why was the name of Sita uttered to cause the true salvation through knowledge? Ram's name later, Sita's name first. Why? (Someone said - He uplifts mothers) Is it because He uplifts mothers? No. The permanent Chariot of Ram, in whom He enters; not the permanent body of Sita. Whose body is permanent? The body of Ram. It is a male body. All the male bodies are Duryodhans and Dushasans. They cannot cause their true salvation themselves. They require a Mother Guru for that. What? Mother - how can she become a Guru? Arey! Father Ram and mother Sita. So, how can Sita become the mother Guru of Ram? Hm?
She would become Guru in the sense that she surrendered body, mind and wealth, time, contacts, relationships through her mind and intellect; whom did she surrender? To the incorporeal Father Ram through Brahma. Through whom? Through Brahma. Did she surrender in the previous birth or later on? The Knowledge itself was not completely revealed in the past birth. The question of surrendering does not arise. When the complete knowledge gets revealed then every string of the intellect gets opened and the soul becomes ready to surrender (samarpan). If someone does not surrender through his/her intellect, then it means that some matter of knowledge has got stuck up. When all those matters become clear, then the intellect also surrenders. The intellect (buddhi) is with the highest among the intelligent ones (buddhimaanon ki buddhi). He is called the creator (vidhaata) of intellect. He is the giver of intellect to everyone. In the last birth everyone becomes a fool. The souls of Ram & Krishna also become fools.
He comes and gives The Knowledge that you are a mind & intellect-like soul. You are not a body. Leave this body consciousness. Leave the consciousness of your body and also leave all the persons with whom you have established relationships, relationships of the body, relatinoships of the bodily organs. If you renounce the body and bodily relationships, then your mind & intellect-like soul will become complete. The more we become dedicated (arpanmay), the more our soul-like mirror (darpan) will become complete. If we become less dedicated, then the mirror will also be small. If we become completely dedicated, then the soul-like mirror becomes complete. Even in that there is percentage. Some mirrors are completely clear; some mirrors are hazy. Some mirrors are very big. Some are small aarsi (a mirror-set ring worn on the hand). So call it a soul-like battery, or mirror or the mirror of heart. Call it heart or mind. In the scriptures also mind is called soul. In a richa appearing in the Rigveda also it has been mentioned - 'Manrev Atma'. Mind and intellect and the sanskars of many births and this birth recorded in it. The name of the combination (samuchhay) of these three powers is soul.
So the soul, which was pure in the Golden Age, becomes sinful, degraded while taking births in the four Ages, while enjoying pleasures, while getting coloured by company. That soul, which never becomes sinful, is instrumental in coming and purifying the sinful ones. It does not get coloured by company. It does not get attached to anyone. He is the Turiya (unique) Soul, the Supreme Soul. He is abhokta (one, who does not enjoy pleasures). In comparison to Him, all other 500-700 crore souls, all the human souls are bhogi, bhokta (one, who enjoys sensual pleasures). It cannot remain without enjoying pleasures. Even if those human souls rise to a high stage and become deities, they would certainly enjoy sensual pleasures. Now that pleasure may be satwic, satopradhan, satosaamaanya, rajo or tamo. There are taamsi bhogi (one who seeks most degraded form of sensual pleasures) also. When an obstacle (taraap) is created in their pleasure seeking, then they kill. They even murder. What kind of a bhogi will they be called? Satopradhan or tamopradhan? Tamopradhan bhogi. That Supreme Soul is not a bhogi, but He enters into a bhogi and the bhogi in whom He enters becomes the most sinful soul of the world.
The most pure one enters into the most sinful one. Ever pure. Ever pure enters into the ever-impure one. Why does He enter? He enters to purify the sinful ones, but the one in whom He enters, the one in whom He comes in a definite form (mukarrar roop), cannot become pure himself. He cannot become pure even by coming in the company of the Supreme Soul. What is this? Why cannot the one in whom the Supreme Soul enters, the one in whom the ever pure enters, become pure? (Someone said - who will destroy the tormentors?) Hm? (Then who will destroy the tormentors?) No. (He too has to make efforts). He cannot become pure himself. (Someone said something) The soul in whose body the Supreme Soul enters in a definite or final form (mukarrar roop), cannot become pure by making efforts with his own power. Why can’t he become pure? It is because he needs a guru in corporeal form. What? When Satguru was found in the form of a middleman (dalaal). So Mata Guru Dalaal is required because the body is male. A male body cannot become pure while living alone like monks (sanyasis). And even purification can be possible through such a guru, who possesses the sanskars of purity since many births. Human souls come under the influence of company during 84 births. All the souls do not become sinful equally and all the souls do not become pure equally. That is why there are two rosaries. One is a Rudra Mala and the other is Vijay Mala.
Vijaymala means the rosary that gains victory over vices and Rudramala means the rosary that assumes a fierceful form (Raudra roop). So will the one who is sinful assume a fierceful form or will the one who is pure assume a fierceful form? Purity causes establishment and impurity causes destruction. Both the tasks belong to the Supreme Soul. He causes establishment also. First He comes and causes establishment and later on the task of destruction also gets accomplished. It is not that the destruction of the old world would start before the establishment of the gathering of new world at a small level. No. Destruction takes place along with establishment. It had taken place in the beginning of the Yagya also ...(to be continued)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words shown in italics are Hindi words.
VCD* NO.322, DATED 13.10.05, GORAKHPUR,
CLARIFICATION OF Murli DATED 2.1.67
No.VCD*
2nd January, 1967. In the middle of the second page, the matter being discussed was - It is said - O Purifier of the sinful ones, come! 'Come' means that He must have come at some point of time. Why had He come? The title 'Purifier of the sinful ones' is prefixed. Do titles exist in the corporeal world or does the title belong to the incorporeal? (Someone said - corporeal) Titles are assumed in the corporeal world. So the title of Purifier of the sinful ones is granted by the incorporeal to the corporeal. When He enters into the corporeal, then He gets the title and He does not come as per the proverb, 'Aaya Ram Gayaa Ram' (Ram came and went away) or like the arrival and departure of other religious fathers. They narrated matters of knowledge, delivered lectures and departed after narrating knowledge. They established their own inculcations (dhaarnaaen or ways of life) and departed. The world did not get transformed. All the souls went on experiencing downfall. They themselves had come from above; they kept experiencing downfall and continued to cause the downfall of their companions and accomplices also. And the souls, the deity souls that were already present, also went on experiencing downfall under the influence of their company. The Supreme Soul does not do so. For Him it is famous - 'Patit-Paavan Sita Ram' (Sita & Ram, the purifier of the sinful ones).
Certainly He enters into the personality of Sita and Ram and purifies the sinful ones. Why is the name of Sita uttered first? Why is the name of Ram uttered later? (A Brother said - He takes the support of a mother first). He takes the support of a mother first! Does He take the support of a mother first to narrate knowledge or to lay the foundation of Bhakti? (Someone said - He takes the support of the mother to lay the foundation of Bhakti). So the true salvation (sadgati) is not caused by Bhakti. Bhakti causes degradation and knowledge causes true salvation. So, why was the name of Sita uttered to cause the true salvation through knowledge? Ram's name later, Sita's name first. Why? (Someone said - He uplifts mothers) Is it because He uplifts mothers? No. The permanent Chariot of Ram, in whom He enters; not the permanent body of Sita. Whose body is permanent? The body of Ram. It is a male body. All the male bodies are Duryodhans and Dushasans. They cannot cause their true salvation themselves. They require a Mother Guru for that. What? Mother - how can she become a Guru? Arey! Father Ram and mother Sita. So, how can Sita become the mother Guru of Ram? Hm?
She would become Guru in the sense that she surrendered body, mind and wealth, time, contacts, relationships through her mind and intellect; whom did she surrender? To the incorporeal Father Ram through Brahma. Through whom? Through Brahma. Did she surrender in the previous birth or later on? The Knowledge itself was not completely revealed in the past birth. The question of surrendering does not arise. When the complete knowledge gets revealed then every string of the intellect gets opened and the soul becomes ready to surrender (samarpan). If someone does not surrender through his/her intellect, then it means that some matter of knowledge has got stuck up. When all those matters become clear, then the intellect also surrenders. The intellect (buddhi) is with the highest among the intelligent ones (buddhimaanon ki buddhi). He is called the creator (vidhaata) of intellect. He is the giver of intellect to everyone. In the last birth everyone becomes a fool. The souls of Ram & Krishna also become fools.
He comes and gives The Knowledge that you are a mind & intellect-like soul. You are not a body. Leave this body consciousness. Leave the consciousness of your body and also leave all the persons with whom you have established relationships, relationships of the body, relatinoships of the bodily organs. If you renounce the body and bodily relationships, then your mind & intellect-like soul will become complete. The more we become dedicated (arpanmay), the more our soul-like mirror (darpan) will become complete. If we become less dedicated, then the mirror will also be small. If we become completely dedicated, then the soul-like mirror becomes complete. Even in that there is percentage. Some mirrors are completely clear; some mirrors are hazy. Some mirrors are very big. Some are small aarsi (a mirror-set ring worn on the hand). So call it a soul-like battery, or mirror or the mirror of heart. Call it heart or mind. In the scriptures also mind is called soul. In a richa appearing in the Rigveda also it has been mentioned - 'Manrev Atma'. Mind and intellect and the sanskars of many births and this birth recorded in it. The name of the combination (samuchhay) of these three powers is soul.
So the soul, which was pure in the Golden Age, becomes sinful, degraded while taking births in the four Ages, while enjoying pleasures, while getting coloured by company. That soul, which never becomes sinful, is instrumental in coming and purifying the sinful ones. It does not get coloured by company. It does not get attached to anyone. He is the Turiya (unique) Soul, the Supreme Soul. He is abhokta (one, who does not enjoy pleasures). In comparison to Him, all other 500-700 crore souls, all the human souls are bhogi, bhokta (one, who enjoys sensual pleasures). It cannot remain without enjoying pleasures. Even if those human souls rise to a high stage and become deities, they would certainly enjoy sensual pleasures. Now that pleasure may be satwic, satopradhan, satosaamaanya, rajo or tamo. There are taamsi bhogi (one who seeks most degraded form of sensual pleasures) also. When an obstacle (taraap) is created in their pleasure seeking, then they kill. They even murder. What kind of a bhogi will they be called? Satopradhan or tamopradhan? Tamopradhan bhogi. That Supreme Soul is not a bhogi, but He enters into a bhogi and the bhogi in whom He enters becomes the most sinful soul of the world.
The most pure one enters into the most sinful one. Ever pure. Ever pure enters into the ever-impure one. Why does He enter? He enters to purify the sinful ones, but the one in whom He enters, the one in whom He comes in a definite form (mukarrar roop), cannot become pure himself. He cannot become pure even by coming in the company of the Supreme Soul. What is this? Why cannot the one in whom the Supreme Soul enters, the one in whom the ever pure enters, become pure? (Someone said - who will destroy the tormentors?) Hm? (Then who will destroy the tormentors?) No. (He too has to make efforts). He cannot become pure himself. (Someone said something) The soul in whose body the Supreme Soul enters in a definite or final form (mukarrar roop), cannot become pure by making efforts with his own power. Why can’t he become pure? It is because he needs a guru in corporeal form. What? When Satguru was found in the form of a middleman (dalaal). So Mata Guru Dalaal is required because the body is male. A male body cannot become pure while living alone like monks (sanyasis). And even purification can be possible through such a guru, who possesses the sanskars of purity since many births. Human souls come under the influence of company during 84 births. All the souls do not become sinful equally and all the souls do not become pure equally. That is why there are two rosaries. One is a Rudra Mala and the other is Vijay Mala.
Vijaymala means the rosary that gains victory over vices and Rudramala means the rosary that assumes a fierceful form (Raudra roop). So will the one who is sinful assume a fierceful form or will the one who is pure assume a fierceful form? Purity causes establishment and impurity causes destruction. Both the tasks belong to the Supreme Soul. He causes establishment also. First He comes and causes establishment and later on the task of destruction also gets accomplished. It is not that the destruction of the old world would start before the establishment of the gathering of new world at a small level. No. Destruction takes place along with establishment. It had taken place in the beginning of the Yagya also ...(to be continued)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Note: This is only a draft of the extracts of above-mentioned VCD* for favour of information. Only when the translation of the entire Murli contained in this VCD* is released, that may be considered as the final version. The words shown in italics are Hindi words.