Re: Why I continue to be a BK
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The only payback they can do now is, stop enculting people in the name of GOD, and do some real charity.
Independent thought about the Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University for those wishing to leave, and friends and family of followers
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Affected BK wrote:The rest of the spiritual aspects what BKs have taught, can be learned from 5 standard moral science books and can be adopted if done sincerely.
ex-l wrote: Of course, the idea of being virtuous is not new and although it is a common theme in your posts that "no one told me how", my response would be that, basically, you did not study deep enough elsewhere.
ex-l wrote:You do not seem to understand that, in essence, the good bit you are talking about is just PR, advertising, a facade ... and the stuff we are dredging out of the darkness ... the shadow of the BKs ... are the roots and core of it.
ex-l wrote:I asked you to tell me how much money the BKWSU has and how much it takes in every year so we can judge how much "good" it does. You cannot tell me, can you? They won't tell you, will they?
If spirituality was this easy, millions wouldn't still be seeking it, it wouldn't be the bilion dollar business that it is.
But how to be virtuous remains an open question.
And in my view you go to the other extreme. For example, in another thread you ridiculed their efforts to raise women's rights awareness in the community. Any activity they organize will have their name attached to it, and according to you its only purpose can be PR.
Arbit wrote: I will argue that you did not go far enough to understand the spiritual aspects of the BK teachings.
... in another thread you ridiculed their efforts to raise women's rights awareness in the community.
That would be like asking the Vatican for their financials.
Did they consult BapDada? What was His response (about informing newcomers about this date)?
kmanaveen wrote:building a family is basically in the hand of a woman. You are depriving her a status that nature has so lovingly given to her. cannot you see that my dear? What rights are left then?
Affected BK wrote:The rest of the spiritual aspects what BKs have taught, can be learned from 5 standard moral science books and can be adopted if done sincerely.
Arbit wrote:I disagree. If spirituality was this easy, millions wouldn't still be seeking it, it wouldn't be the bilion dollar business that it is.
ex-l wrote:Bad example to choose, they are starting to and answering requests for information, e.g ... Vatican bank releases financial report amid concerns over transactions. The report is, here ($117 million held).
kmanaveen wrote:.. building a family is basically in the hand of a woman. You are depriving her a status that nature has so lovingly given to her. cannot you see that my dear? What rights are left then?
kmanaveen wrote:Arbit, the truth is always simple and easy. For instance, ´Speak truth´... everyone knows with or without a guru,
Affected BK wrote:I will love to know that what spiritual and factual aspect you are getting from their basic document “Murli”?
ex-l wrote:It teaches a three-fold path, shown in the motto: "Good thoughts, good words, good deeds." What else do you need?
ex-l wrote:You'd have to define "spiritual aspects". It's a meaningless statement.Please be specific.
Arbit wrote:To your anoyance, ex-l, I have to restate that the reality is more nuanced than simplistic.
Every pack of cigarette displays this universal truth. Yet people take to it. Yet they struggle to give up the habit.
Both males and females partake in buidling a family. ?
But, IMO following is a more important discussion than the above.
Celibacy is not unique to BKs. We just talked about the Church - it requires some of its staff to be celibate. is the Church too depriving them of rights?
Murli point dtd 27.09.2014
The Father now says: Whilst living at home, become as pure as a lotus. Kumars and Kumaris are pure anyway. It is explained to them: You must not get involved in a household where you would then have to make effort to become pure again. God speaks: Become pure! You have to listen to the unlimited Father. You can live as purely as a lotus whilst living at home with your family. So, why do you instil in your children the habit of becoming impure, since the Father is saving you from becoming impure for 21 births? You also have to renounce the opinion of your family and society. This is an unlimited matter.
There are many bachelors in all religions, but it is a little difficult to live with safety because they are still living in the kingdom of Ravan. Abroad, too, many people don't get married, and then they get married in their old age for companionship. They do not get married with criminal eyes. There are many such people in the world. He is looked after very well, and when he dies, he leaves something to that person (companion) and gives some of it to charity
Murli point:
Abroad, too, many people don't get married, and then they get married in their old age for companionship.
kmanaveen wrote:Why not let people live the way they live and still follow BKism, if they wish to? If it has power enough, all vices will slowly go off.
Murli point dtd 27.09.2014
There are many such people in the world. He is looked after very well, and when he dies, he leaves something to that person (companion) and gives some of it to charity
Why not let people live the way they live and still follow BKism, if they wish to? If it has power enough, all vices will slowly go off. May be Seniors are too afraid of their own weaknesses that they may start all so called mayavi things.
I disagree. If spirituality was this easy, millions wouldn't still be seeking it, it wouldn't be the bilion dollar business that it is.
ex-l wrote:Over there"? Where do you mean? India or somewhere else?
ex-l wrote:I tend only to consider the leaders as BKs and separate them from the followers who are just that.