Affected BK wrote:The rest of the spiritual aspects what BKs have taught, can be learned from 5 standard moral science books and can be adopted if done sincerely.
I disagree. If spirituality was this easy, millions wouldn't still be seeking it, it wouldn't be the bilion dollar business that it is.
ex-l wrote: Of course, the idea of being virtuous is not new and although it is a common theme in your posts that "no one told me how", my response would be that, basically, you did not study deep enough elsewhere.
Again, I disagree. Indeed, the idea of being virtuous is perhaps as old as humanity. But how to be virtuous remains an open question. And of all the places I explored I found the best answers in BK spiritual teachings. I will argue that you did not go far enough to understand the spiritual aspects of the BK teachings.
ex-l wrote:You do not seem to understand that, in essence, the good bit you are talking about is just PR, advertising, a facade ... and the stuff we are dredging out of the darkness ... the shadow of the BKs ... are the roots and core of it.
And in my view you go to the other extreme. For example, in another thread you ridiculed their efforts to raise women's rights awareness in the community. Any activity they organize will have their name atatched to it, and according to you its only purpose can be PR.
ex-l wrote:I asked you to tell me how much money the BKWSU has and how much it takes in every year so we can judge how much "good" it does. You cannot tell me, can you? They won't tell you, will they?
That would be like asking the Vatican for their financials. I doubt the left hand of either organization knows what the right hand holds.
While you make many valid points, the dissonance I find in your reasoning, ex-l, is that you conflate the BKs with the BK teachings, and you paint all BKs with one broad brush. Not all BK teachers instruct their centergoers to abort, not all are fat, not all discourage exercise, not all break families, etc. But as I was composing this post, I realized the following:
I don't think ANY BK teacher informs newcomers about the failed destruction dates. The failed dates may have been easy for me to swallow since I did not base my life decisions on them. But as Kumar points out, others are expressly sold the imminent destruction and they make their decisions accordingly. In that case it is disingenuous of the BK teacher to not also divulge the previous destruction dates.
On January 1, 1977, I wonder what conversation did the BK Seniors from the Om Mandali (BK Janki, BK Gulzar, BK Manmohini, etc.) and those who joined in 1950s (BK Nirwair, BK Brij Mohan, etc.) have. Did they talk about including the 1976 date in the 7 day course? Did they deem it necessary to divulge all truth? Do the ends justify the means? Did they consult BapDada? What was His response (about informing newcomers about this date)?
I shall ask my center-in-charge, who at present is in Mt. Abu, I presume for a teachers meeting. But I (and we all) know what the answer will be. Then it boils down to our individual decisions about the future course of action. And for me the pros add up more than the cons.