John wrote:No, I can only account to myself and express my belief. Two things that are important to that are I believe Shiva is God and has knowledge beyond time and science.
Hi John. You've raised the key point to Gyan and discussion on any point of Gyan. Knowing who it is that is teaching .
Despite myself, in meditation I had the experience (immensely loving, merciful, untrickable) of who was teaching this knowledge and I knew it. Before I was able to meditate, I remember feeling resentment and being indignant that other souls seemed to know who was teaching and I knew I did not. For a while that got in my way. I tried to copy them etc. Then I really looked at the basics of what was being taught, particularly the mediation, and met who was waiting for me. Best meeting I ever had. I couldn't stop smiling for weeks. I was in on the 'secret' that wasn't a secret. It just took me a little effort to get out of my own way.
If any of the ex-BK's on here haven't met Baba in meditation - don't give up. It's the best meeting you will ever have. You can still rail against Gyan and dispute the quality of BK facilitation - I do. I even do it with great bravado and incredible self righteousness. But beneath my personal drama and show Baba is ticking away with me, reassuringly. And once you know something (who is teaching in this case) you cannot unknow it.
John wrote:As to how much knowledge in actual scientific terms, I don't know but I don't see the importance of Shiva having to have knowledge of every detail and knowing how the exact mechanics of the material universe work.
Yes. And as a PBK has posted in another thread, Baba is here to help us change our Iron Age mind to the unlimited Golden Age mind. It's his role to give us The Knowledge and technique to achieve that. Along with being loving, sweetly funny and a damn fine friend, that's what he does. As for answering questions of scientific nature etc., he tells us to think on/churn the knowlege and we'll understand. That's how I understand him to be the Ocean of Knowledge. When you have a friend who actually knows everything, I've found a lot of the urgency and particularly 'demanding' for answers in this area diminishes. I've also found it doesn't happen for souls who don't yet know who is teaching.
John wrote:The other is that I think science is developing and will continue to develop with new ideas, bringing new understanding to the material universe. One of the ideas I find interesting is the one that animals have hidden genes which could allow them to change species quicker than was proposed before, evolution of hundreds of years rather than thousands.
Yes. Rapid change, possibly during catastrophic periods e.g. Dinosaurs (bird species?) - everything points to radioactive mutation in this case ( tiny brains - which radioactivity doesn't affect - monstrous, hairless bodies (which are signs of radioactive mutation) and that their bones date at millions of years (radio-active decay unwittingly being measured from the affect of a nuclear catastrophe/ catastrophic change in the radiation striking the earth).
Science acknowledges gravity must have been different then for them to exist as well.