Re: Reflections on Childhood Abuse Prior to Becoming a BK
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Should we merge this topic with "Shame bound fundamentalism?" - or are they separate? Both very valuable.
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leela wrote:OF COURSE pedophiles need to be taken off the streets. They rarely change and usually re-offend. Taking them out of circulation protects all children. (Incidentally, the US is looking seriously at some form of castration as a treatment). When people wave this flag of punishing the perpetrator as if it were on my behalf, well, thank you, but it does not feel helpful to me personally. To me, it is a separate issue. It is just very unfortunate that there needs to be a victim in order to prosecute.
leela wrote:OF COURSE pedophiles need to be taken off the streets. They rarely change and usually re-offend. Taking them out of circulation protects all children. (Incidentally, the US is looking seriously at some form of castration as a treatment).
terry wrote:was there at any time discussion about your situation with "Seniors', whether instigated by you or by them? Did you try to let anyone know of your needs, consciously (or give an unconscious "cry for help" in some way?). Was there ever any general discussion, class or otherwise about abuse, mental health issues, recovery from behaviour disorders or anything that anyone recalls?
joel wrote:statistically speaking, most abuse is from acquaintances, relatives or family members, much more so than by complete outsiders ... Could there ever be a prescription for how to stop it?
ex-l wrote:I would suggest that all BK teachers should be screened annually and that the movement employ non-BK specialists?
Terry wrote:Laws and procedures do not encourage the crime to happen. They acknowledge reality.
was there at any time discussion about your situation with "Seniors', whether instigated by you or by them? Did you try to let anyone know of your needs, consciously (or give an unconscious "cry for help" in some way?). Was there ever any general discussion, class or otherwise about abuse, mental health issues, recovery ... ?
ex-l wrote:it is still a discussion a society must have ... surely?
it is still a discussion a society must have ... surely....
ex-l wrote:Looking back at it, in my own case, I pretty much walked out of my family's paradigm, which was largely the extension of a vitcim's paradigm, into their paradigm;
From Terry: What you describe in that sentence above is, in its own way, potentially a description of the condition of the co-dependent. Not necessarily addiction codependency (like the child of an alcoholic experiences) more like a victim's co-dependent.
leela wrote:I am still uncomfortable with BK bashing, which could be a symptom of the victim's co-dependency, that' s true. But righteous anger, complaining, accusing, and gathering allies who will agree with us are also features of the victim's paradigm
The real victim in me would be too afraid to speak up, speak my truth and trust that what I have seen and what I have to say is valid. It is only when someone confirms and responds to what we are saying that we realize we are alive anyway. Without anyone's feedback, how can we be reflected and see ourselves?