The above is an old letter from july 1942. I think ex-l referred to this one.
ex-l wrote:My favorite is the one to the 'military leaders of the world' actually encouraging them to enact marshal law and scorched earth tactics
in another thread :
http://www.brahmakumaris.info/forum//viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3179Almost needless to say that the central doctrine hasn't been abandonned over the years but it has been refined though, according to my view, and filled in with new political faces; and this process (probably) keeps going on. (Below is the Destruction version I heard about in 1992. I think it is just another version of the tale central to the BK-doctrine).
Updating According to the teacher I met at the BK in the 1990-1992 period, the BK was not able to build an army themselves. It would take too much affluency and also it would detect too much attention, and could not be done unnoticed by the world. However, she proclaimed that the BKWSO would overtake the reigns of the United Nations Army, as guided by the Security Council (UNSC).
The teacher, however, on another occasion, told me that the army the United Nations mounts for (any) peace operation was in fact their army. She told me that the BKWSO at a later instance would take complete control over the United Nations Army, ie. actually take over the reigns of it. Then, when it was firmly assured of the grip upon this United Nations branch, they would launch their own destructive war (*) as prophesied by the BK-god spirit.
Mr. W Bush (jr) was to play the role of Kalkin (**) in his next incarnation, initiating Destruction (***) and Mr. Lekraj would not reincarnate before the (beginning of the) Golden Age was well established.
(*) According to what the teacher told me at the time, there are three events that will take place prior to the destructive cataclismic war. The first event will be the buiding of the Golden Age palaces in the present time by the donations of the adherents. The second event would be that the armed branch of the UN will be taken over by the BKWSO. Directly after that event, the BKWSO will take over the reigns of the government of India, (almost) simultaneously to the crowning of Krishna and Radha. When these three events are deeply anchored then the BKWSO will lauch the Armageddon.
(**) The tenth avatar of Vishnu in Hinduism (and plays a role in Buddhism as well).
(***) They told me Mr. Bush (jr) was far too much affected at Sanskara-level not to turn to the BKWSO and not to act this way.
I asked the teacher how the peace loving BK adherents would, for instance enter a tank vehicle. That is not at all "Om Shanti". She, however, replied that nevertheless some adherents would do this, not too much but just a few to ensure influence and control at the battlefield. And then mainly the lower status BKs. But BKs would above all concentrate on the higher positions of the UN Army, what would mean the central command.
She added that they had to wait until the decisive power was given to the BKWSO at first hand and would be firmly in their tightening grip, before they could send in their own BK-minded generals to take over the central command. She affirmed that those generals would surely stand up in due time.
I told the teacher that the army the UNSC mounts to peace operations is not an army consituted and run by one country that can be taken-over easily but that shifting member-countries would contribute to a specific peace task. To her, that would not influence the outcome of the process.
Another thing is that at present, at least as far as I know, the UNSC does not carry with them weaponery of mass destruction as it is by no way required for peace keeping and surveillance operations. And I doubt if they ever will. Two CampsAccording to the BK-view, the Armageddon war will either be inspired by the BKWSO or directly caused by them. In 1992 the opinions differed how it would exactly take place. One version discussed was that the United Nations was embraced as a mediator between two parties that would have a conflict. Being run secretly (at first) and more overtly (later on) by the BKWSO, this UN Armed-Party would either manage the conflict in a way that would make an escalation and subsequent catharsis unavoidable. Or they would inspire both parties this way.
Another version was that, after having taken the central command and being assured of full control, the BK-restyled UN Army would launch a simultaneous attack on both parties covering it up, blaming both parties and then let the subsequent conflict escalate into an all destructive war. As said, this issue was blurred and not clear when they (the adherents at the BK meeting) spoke about it.
The two party's involved will be America and Russia ... as they told me.
As I heard this, I was very surprised. It was 1990 and the Berlin wall had just fallen. The Cold War, after having frozen for decades the relations between the two camps, was finally and literally over. America and Russia were becoming friends at rapid rate.
I also told them these facts. Told them that I hardly could image that these two countries would become sworn enemies again. I painted the image of friendship.(I think for them their version of the story was largely an effort to paint the BK-picture of Destruction with realistic colours to make it more agreeable for adherents). The teacher however said that this growing friendship between the two giants was true at that very moment but that the relations between the two countries would worsen and cool down later in time, leading to an unavoidable, all destructive outcome.
Yet, I pick on this because the BK seems to have had a continuing, on going threat blackened out at adherents about an imminent, unavoidable Destruction. It is central to their philosophy. It is the thriving of fear that they exploit for making adherents into servable brainwashed individuals.Golden Age Palaces According to the teacher the building of the Golden Age palaces was another sign of the imminent victory of the BK, a sign of their growing strength. She told me that, as Confluence Age continued, the BKs would acquire more affluence. It would be invested in the buying of large estates.
This process would continue. But gradually the organisation would accumulate so much wealth that they would start decorating the large estates with gold and diamonds. That would also be the time that, progressively, larger groups of people would get interested in those palaces. Even tourists would visit them.
At first, when the palaces were not decorated, hardly anyone would pay attention to the phenomenon. But as soon as the palaces were well decorated, interested people would start to visit and this would generate new income and new adherents, according to her but not too much.
As the world would get more and more disorganised and chaotic, the organisation would radiate so much solidity and although poverty was increasing worldwide, their fortune would still grow (thanks to the adherents !!) This would be the sign of (the BK)-God presence on earth. This would also be the time that the regency of the Indian government would be handed over to the BK.
Yet I wonder if a few decorated mansions will make people act that way. I don't think it is going to work for them, if it ever gets that far.The next step would be the crowning of Narayan and Lakshmi. As they were installed everyone (worldwide, yes !!) would be very happy. People would be unaware of the coming misfortune. The rulers and the BK would then make their final turn in their endless twisting and turning and create their Armageddon.
I reminded her of the fact that, according to the doctrine, the world would go up in flames. I asked her what would be the profit of building dream palaces if everything would be destroyed and had to be build anew in the Golden Age. The teacher then gave me a quite astonishing and hilarious answer, namely that
everything would be destroyed but those palaces ... She said those palaces would be protected by divine power.
United Nations Army The teacher also told me that the UNSC was leading the BK (future) army and that it was wearing their colours of white and blue, ascribing the white to the predominant colour of white among the BK and referring to the white clothes the adherents wore. The blue of the military's helmets in her vision, reflected the colour of the blue sky, referring to the meditating, as in meditation the BK-adherents supposedly mount (or descend, depending how you look at it) to the sky. There is even a BK poster about this philosophy, showing how souls are in the Soul World while their bodies are upon earth and the two being connected by a thin thread. They showed me the depicting poster at the time to underline their point of view.
However, as they told me this, I was not so much impressed. I had seen that poster before. I replied that, according to me, the white colour of the UN vehicles and armature indicated the neutrality of the army, as white is the international colour to surrender and a white flag at a battlefield means to cease fire. It is a symbol of negotiation and peace, even accepted by the convention of Geneva. Blue in my view, related to the colour of the UN flag (with the symbol of the United Nations). I did not deny that it was related to the colour of a blue sky but dismissed the fact that it had to do anything with their specific BK-meditation
The teacher then questioned this and said she thought the blue colour wasn't linked to the United Nations but referred directly to the BK-meditation. I described the flag of the UN to her (with the olive branches and the globe in the middle symbolizing peace, whereas the depicted continents symbolize all people on earth) told her she was wrong in this particular case, concerning this fact. She said the flag I described belonged to the NATO. And yes, the flag of the NATO is (dark) blue as well but the image (resembling a 4 pointed star) is completely different.
You can observe the differences here :
The United Nations flag
The flag of the NATO
To convince me, the teacher then told me that Shiv Baba had explained her version in a Murli and she asked me in high voice if and how I could question Shiv Baba? (Remarkedly is that I asked her to show that Murli as related to the UNSC to me but she couldn't). I told her that according to me it was wrongly displayed, so we ended up in diverse points of view as I was not willing to buy her saying. I thought she was a bit silly though.
Also I opposed the idea of the United Nations becoming the instrument of the cult. I told her I simply couldn't image this future take-over would happen,
that the world has too many strongholds and other influences counter fighting it. However, to them it was only a matter of time, before that would take place.
Mr. Bush (jr)Another interesting point was how they pictured the future roleplaying of Mr. W Bush (jr). It was an absolutely bizarre tale. I thought they had bothered this man enough and would leave him to his merits. But according to the teacher and Mr. Whaling this would not be so.
I asked them what would happen? Well, according to them Mr. Bush (jr) after having concluded this life, would come back to earth in a next incarnation, to play his decisive role. He would in fact end the World Drama and initiate a New Cycle.
I know this sounds controversial and presumptuous, as I think the Murli's teach differently and ascribe this karma to the reïncarnation of Mr. Lehkraj, but they told me Mr. Bush (jr) would reappear as an individual known as Kalkin. As I asked who Kalkin was, they said it is the destructive aspect of Krishna. When I asked them what would become of Mr. Lekhraj when Mr. Bush (jr) would play the Krishna-role, they told me Mr. Lekhraj
would ... Would ?They explained to me that Mr. Lekhraj would become the true version of Krishna in the Golden Age and that Mr. Bush (jr) would "only" destroy the world (ie the present civilisation) and therefore was remembered as a false version of Krishna in Bhakti, as being the impure version. It wasn't in Mr. Lekraj's karma to actually bring about the Destruction (*) He would reincarnate simultaneously with Mrs. Pokardas' third reincarnation (as she is presumedly already on earth right now) in the Golden Age, just at the beginning of that Era. In fact, the Golden Age would start with their incarnation. They again would then be honoured as Emperor Narayan and Empress Lakshmi, eventally.
Mr. Aznar's roleplaying (as explained by Mr. Whaling)
Mr. Aznar and the other BK-symphatic political leaders would play an important role towards Mr. Bush (jr) in decisively influencing the latter to his detriment. To be able to do this, Mr. Aznar got a personal assignment by BapDada, in order to succeed in his mission, ie. influencing Mr. Bush (jr) (unnoticed by the target himself). This notice was that Mr. Aznar had to spend "all" his time with Mr. Bush (jr) and give all his love to ... Mr. Bush.
This was a request that was quite radical, as considered by Mr. Aznar. At first Mr. Aznar did not understand it at all and felt troubled by it. He wouldn't mind to much spreading his love to BapDada himself (according to Mr Whaling). But to Mr. Bush (jr) was something else. Mr. Aznar felt puzzled and when he understood, he felt quite handicaped.
Nevertheless Mr. Aznar set forward to work on the task. However, after a while it affected him deeply because, whenever Mr. Bush was around, then Mr. Aznar payed (had to pay) very little, to almost no attention to his family. He was working hard and preferred spreading any attention to Mr. Bush (jr) instead of sharing love with his family ... All the time working and working on behalf of the BK-godspirit's aspirations.
His political friends (ie. Mr. Fox cs) pushed Mr. Aznar forwards because, as they said, according to Mr. Whaling, he was the only one of them that had incorporated (the vibrations of) love. The others had to wait for him. And Mr. Aznar, being the 'primus inter pares', realised this, thought of his mission. But it was a tough task.
Dedicated Mr. Aznar was, as far as the professor/Mr. Whaling, told me. But the matter of the fact is that his task was really hard to perform. Even when Mr. Aznar was helped by Shiv Baba by granting him a binding of love with the godspirit, (or maybe that happened first) it still remained a hard task. It depleted Mr. Aznar. And he got tired and depressed.
This was when the "magical touch" of Mr Whaling came in the game again. He was like a tutor, like a mentor surveying his pupils. A self appointed tutor though. He explained to me that he realised he had to pay this role. He glamoured in his new role he had now himself assigned to and glowed at me. He noticed that Mr. Aznar would have a hard time, also because he hardly saw his family anymore. Mr Aznar was really pushing himself to the limits.
Then he said, he made a "friendly, relieving" gesture towards Mr. Aznar to help him in this difficult situation. He recognised his dedication toward the "important task". However, if Mr. Aznar was drained, he couldn't serve the BKWSO anymore either. That's why Mr. Whaling prompted Mr. Aznar to take it a little less hard. Mr. Aznar was doing the best he could. He told him to relax a bit more, spend some (more) time with his family. Take a rest. He also told him to avoid suspicion that (surely) would arise, Mr Whaling faired, if Mr. Aznar kept on spending so extremily much time as he was doing with Mr. Bush (jr).
And so Mr. Aznar did. He took it "light" and this worked. Mr. Aznar recovered. He could fulfil his task and became successful. The teacher cheered that over the years she had learned that taking things lightly was such a beautiful way to deal with matters ...
I asked why Mr. Aznar had to actually "love" Mr. Bush (jr). Mr. Whaling told me it was because Mr. Bush (jr) had grown up without love and that it was now the time for him to experience love via Mr. Aznar. I asked them why he couldn't experience it in another, more direct way. Mr. Whaling told me that they wanted Mr. Bush to experience "love" but linked to the BK-goals and only in that way they wanted it. That was the reason for Mr. Aznar's strange role-playing.
However Mr. Aznar, by that time according to Mr. Whaling, did not wanted to be close to the BKWSO anymore. He said that fulfilling his job, at playing his role in the initiation of the Iraq-war, was his final mission and soon after he stepped back from politics. This was discussed in 1991-1992. Mr. Aznar did resign in 2004. And Mr. Whaling regretted this future event enormously as Mr. Aznar was so close to the fire.
But it was discussed that Mr. Aznar by doing so kept his election notice, a promise he made not to be re-elected after his second term. He himself being quite exhausted by performing this double task, that played an important role in this decision as well, according to them. In short it was an act regretted by the adherents.
Now there is a lot to be said about the depiction of this situation but I describe it from the absurd perspective of Mr. Whalings-BK-tellings and the absolute overcharging of the influence of the BKWSO to give more insight in their ways of thinking, as far as I came to know it.
Confluence TimeConsequently, I asked them how they imagined Mr. Bush (jr)' reincarnation taking place before the proclaimed Destruction, that would take a start, according to their view, as the Confluence time was almost over?
The teacher then declared that this was relative, that the Confluence-time was elastic and could stretch longer, if necessary, as it formed no part of The Cycle in terms of Eras. Whether the "Transformation" needed a century to take place, or whether it would take 150 years, 250 years or longer, that was irrelevant. What was relevant though, was that the Golden Age would definitively come. She told me Shiv Baba would simply extend the Confluence Time a "little". It would not affect the length of the subsequent Eras. She also told me that the Confluence time was not over until global Destruction was completed. And Destruction would surely be. Both Mr. Whaling and the teacher were very passionate about that, even though Shiv Baba would not tell exactly how that event would take place, though it was being asked the godspirit repatedly, and also when that event would take place.
Mr. Whaling then added to the discussion a few remarks. He told me that he himself could not imagine the imminent big turnover taking place within decades. It was simply to soon, he argued.
So that was it ; the 5000 years cycle was stretched a little ... But it was still a 5000 years circle in terms of the 4 era.
Reincarnation The teacher told me the numbers of BK adherents were also still too little to get the "Hercules-job" done. They told me that like Mr. Bush (jr)' reincarnation, likewise most (if not all) of the souls now attending the BK would reincarnate. Even those who had had the slightest contact with the BKWSO and BK-ism. They would then either return to the BK to gain further knowledge, more advanced lessons and complete their own personal transformation proces, or they would lead a life incognito, in oblivion, having reached the karmateet state already, as Advanced Party members and serve the BK in a more wordly way.
Being incognito, the innate knowledge of BK-ism would nevertheless lead them but determine their life in a subconscious way, directing them without them really knowing ... The teacher reaffirmed that anyone ever having been in contact with the BK would either return to the BK, or serve them in one or another way. Thus their numbers would grow dramatically towards the end of the Confluence Time ... And this in turn was a sign that the Confluence Era was coming to it's end. A sign of the BK-victory.
About Mr. Bush (jr)' the visions of the adherents differed. He would, according to them, no doubt return. And the Sanskara's from his former life would lead him to be president of America again. They were not sure, however, whether he would first become president and then turn to the BK, or linkup with the organisation first and then fulfil his ambition. It all depended upon his strenght. In other words, how long Mr. Bush (jr) could go on without having the need of the help and aid and support of the BKWSO. And without being uplifted by the so called "pure" vibrations of light and love, as indissoluble connected with BK-ism, according to them.
Tricky KarmaAccording to Mr. Whaling, the next life of Mr. Bush (jr) would be very, very tough, as he had already experienced many difficulties in his present life. It would be worse then. Besides that, he would have to conquer a lot of negative karma from his former (that is his present) life (mostly at Sanskara-level) And then comes the tricky part ... because during this life, let's say "in his darkest hour" there were his semi-BK political friends (Mr. Fox etc) "lightening him with the so called fine vibrations of light and love", supporting him unconsciously, but then in Mr. Bush (jr)' next life, it would not be so ...
Therefore Mr. Aznar was of so "immense" importance, as they explained me, because he was able to radiate the "sweet vibrations of BK-love" to Mr. Bush (jr). And he did this during his "uninterrupted" presence in Mr. Bush' vicinity, following him like a shadow. And as he was advised and instructed by Shiv Baba, according to what they told me.
But as explained in the previous thread "
a letter to the president -2" those friends would not reincarnate again but in the Golden Era. They pictured how Mr. Bush (jr) would in vain search for them, being restlessly and sometimes even reluctantly led by his Sanskaras. Not even his Father, Mr Bush (sr) would be around to support him and protect him. They depicted how he would feel himself being alienated, an orphan ... crawling ... to the (BK)-god, looking for shelter. And then fall inevitably into the pit of BK-ism ... with devastating result.
The whole situation was laughable but they spoke with such sincere earnesty ... I couldn't doubt they believed it themselves.To continue the conversation I said to them it was a terrible role to play. They called it karma ... he had applied for himself.
I discussed the fact whether Mr. Bush (jr) would at all return to the BK. Maybe that wouldn't even happen. They, however, said he would. Souls found their way home after 5000 years. He would surely find the way his next lifetime. Shiv Baba would influence the circumstances and by that way inspire Mr. Bush (jr) to come "home" as well, they said. I also asked them if anything could be done to prevent it happening. The teacher then said, "Hey, how would you avoid something taking place in the next generation?". As I said that it was, in fact, a deceitful game played towards Mr. Bush (jr), the teacher replied, "Hey, he will come to us out of free will. We won't enforce him to do so. In fact, we won't be even able to locate him ourselves ...".
This was the situation they painted.
The fact that Mrs. Pokardas, according to their religion a far more stronger soul, couldn't even find her way back to the BK was ignored. It was not her duty to return, they replied. Well, in that way one can make any theory fit.
Mr. Lekhraj Mr. Whaling then told me that he was trying to figure out how an all destructive war could be brought about, and failed to do so. He could image regional conflicts taking place and events leading to that, but not an overall war. My suggestion that it maybe would not have to be so, was mainly and grossly ignored.
In the cause of time, the world would change because of inventions and other developments taking place and being implemented. That's was my opinion.The teacher agreed with me that the Transformation could be a gradual process and that then Destruction would be left out. I was hoping to work with them upon reforming the BK-organisation, as very small as or slightly insignificant my contribution would be. Hoping that they would leave that unpleasant path of destruction.
And I got the teacher, due to length of the discussion probably, to the point that she would question the Bapdada-medium this issue, 'cause I was not allowed (by them) to go there (Madhuban) myself (as I was still a beginning student). But when the teacher came back from her visit to Madhuban, it was "good old" Destruction again. That's when I decided to leave them as to me they seemed inflexible and not willing to take into account any other options or opinions. I detest(ed) the Destruction paradigm.
Another thing glued to that decision, is that the whole story of the path leading to Destruction was changed again because at first they said that Mr. Lekhraj would not incarnate before the end of Confluence Time. It would be Mr. Bush (jr)' reincarnation leading to Destruction. But then, all of a sudden, as the teacher was spirited from her stay in Madhuban, the whole story was reversed to Mr. Lekhraj' reincarnation leading to the end. And I felt sick and repulsed by their amoral twisting in many more aspects.
As said before (in the thread, "Mr. Lekhraj and Krishna, a strange twist"), I attended meditation at a center where the doctrine, at least concerning Mr. Lekhraj, was changed many, many times up to the point that no one could make sense out if it, including the teacher herself. For me, this was one change too much. I simply did not accepted it anymore and left.
So, with that, my involvement with "monitoring" the process of BK "world-influence" and desired global BK-sovereignty via (some) world leaders, as I happened to very coincidentally and fragmented get notice about, ceased.
Sinister Aspect Well, according to me everything they have said is very hypothetical and uncertain. I see it as a bogus-story, a fairy tale for the well-believing. However, I questioned them as thoroughly as I could and they really believed the story themselves. One adherent was already drawing pictures of the Golden Age flying machines and re-designing them, refining the aerodynamics even though he did not know how the engine, powered by nuclear fusion, worked; even though these engines don't even exist (yet). But he wanted to be a mechanical engineer in the Golden Age. Maybe this situation is a good metaphor for the BK-organisation as a whole ...
He even showed me the drawing proudly.
What really bothers me from the above story, is the sinister aspect of it all. Whether or not true, how they had no scruples, according to their view, using a person as an instrument for their wicked program. The total lack of or absence of ethics. How they said they would not hesitate to try to do that again in this person's next life.
And how they could be willing to accept that an organisation, designed to protect and defend human dignity (the UN), would easily be turned in their view into a destructive element to help eradicate almost the whole (besides the "chosen" 9,00,000) of mankind. I guess that's what strikes me most. That, besides their totally bizarre fantasies, inspired by their godspirit. I think what they are up to, their plans, are a total disgrace however unreal they may seem. It is an abomination.
Also, I wonder if the UN are aware of the ridculous role they play in the fantasies of a bizarre, millenarian cult that gains credibility by misusing their name and good intentions.