Posted: 20 Nov 2007
Sister Bansy wrote:However, back up somewhere in this thread I mention the possibility of Murlis becoming available, once the forum legal situation is clear.
Well, the decision is. The BKWSO lost and this website remains independent. So that is Condition 'A' met and, for many, it fulfills the prediction/advice given by BapDada to "the IT team" a year ago ... "through cooperation there will be victory" (approx). Either,
- a) which IT team was BapDada talking to? Or,
b) do the opposition have more skullduggery up their sleeves to try on yet?
I appreciate the personal risk the good BKs may be taking but at some point or another, the chickens of the BKWSU (the present BKs excepted) are going to have to realise that the sky is not going to fall on its head if the Murlis are made public.
I am sorry if this is not what is being offered ... or if I spoil offer of our daily gruel but ... but I think they just have to trust us and let us get on with it. Take a look too at all the BKs that are asking for Murlis or expressing their gratitude on other sections of this site.
Sure, anything is better than nothing but, for me personally, to be dripfed is not enough. Again, I apologize in advance, but some of think and learn faster and it is a frustration being held back.
I also would be concerned that they are not going to give thing long enough to work out. Something like this will bring in new members ... but like any classroom, including BK centers, how many folks just sit at the back and are afraid to engage in discussion against how many folks open their mouths. I'd put the balance at around 100:1.
I am also a little bit unhappy at the inference that some BKs are putting around (not these souls but particularly members of the BKWSU IT PR) that anyone here in anyway negatively modifies Murlis deliberately ... that really is not fair and I am offended on behalf of the Hindi speakers who go out of their way to translate Murlis for us (often drawing attention to inaccuracies or ambiguities not made clear to English speakers) ... and clearly label who and where they were translated. Honestly, we could not be MORE assiduous here if we were paid to be.
Lastly, I'd like to point out the in interjection of the Murlis at this point with have a cumulative effect over time that may not be obviously in an "Thou Must Churn Two Points Today" manner. On one hand, the Murlis are HIGHLY repetitive ... so it would be hard to know where one stopped and the next started; on the other, sometimes it takes days or weeks for certain points to filter through.
It would also be good if BKs are willing to come forward and initiate discussions.
Charles Dickens wrote:Oliver Twist and his companions suffered the tortures of slow starvation for three months; at last they got so voracious and wild with hunger, that one boy: who was tall for his age, and hadn't been used to that sort of thing, (for his Father had kept a small cook's shop): hinted darkly to his companions, that unless he had another basin of gruel per diem, he was afraid he might some night happen to eat the boy who slept next him, who happened to be a weakly youth of tender age. He had a wild, hungry, eye; and they implicitly believed him. A council was held; lots were cast who should walk up to the master after supper that evening, and ask for more; ... and it fell to Oliver Twist.
The evening arrived; the boys took their places. The master, in his cook's uniform, stationed himself at the copper; his pauper assistants ranged themselves behind him; the gruel was served out; and a long grace was said over the short commons. The gruel disappeared; the boys whispered each other, and winked at Oliver; while his next neighbours nudged him. Child as he was, he was desperate with hunger, and reckless with misery. He rose from the table; and advancing to the master, basin and spoon in hand, said: somewhat alarmed at his own temerity:
"Please, sir, I want some more."
The master was a fat, healthy man; but he turned very pale. He gazed in stupefied astonishment on the small rebel for some seconds; and then clung for support to the copper. The assistants were paralysed with wonder; the boys with fear.
"What!" said the master at length, in a faint voice.
"Please, sir," replied Oliver, "I want some more."
The master aimed a blow at Oliver's head with the ladle; pinioned him in his arms; and shrieked aloud for the beadle. The board were sitting in solemn conclave, when Mr. Bumble rushed into the room in great excitement, and addressing the gentleman in the high chair, said,
"Mr. Limbkins, I beg your pardon, sir! Oliver Twist has asked for more!"
There was a general start. Horror was depicted on every countenance. "For more!" said Mr. Limbkins. "Compose yourself, Bumble, and answer me distinctly. Do I understand that he asked for more, after he had eaten the supper allotted by the dietary?". "He did, sir," replied Bumble. "That boy will be hung," said the gentleman in the white ...