Re: "Satguru Mila Dalal", The Paradox of Sangamyug.
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I don't think I am the one sleeping.
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mbbhat wrote: So, ShivaBaba is our real guru. But Brahma also becomes sadguru beacuse he surrendered everything to Shiva. When One who surrenders everything to Baba, he becomes 100% swaaha. Then his tan, man, dhan everything is Baba's property. Such personalities are both middle man and mirrors of sadguru(Shiva). I still admit that I am not fully saisfied by my explanation.
mr green wrote: yawn
sachkhand wrote:I really do not know their intentions. Most of the active members here really have no interest in churning and try to understand Murli points.
ex-l wrote: So, we don't dance like sad little monkeys on a chain to the sound of the organ grinder, dancing to the tune they have invented to make money. Too right.
So, how, when and why was Shiva introduced into the philosophy. Sure such an introduction, such a revelation is of such a magnitude that it ought be recorded somewhere. And sure the fact the current leadership, who are engaged in editing and revising these Murlis, have covered it up for so long whilst profiting from their fallacious version is also of such a magnitude that it ought to be explained.
You question our intentions. I question ANYONE that invest ANY OF THEIR TIME into a falsehood and give ANY OF THEIR TIME to a leadership that promotes falsehoods. Our intention is to seek the absolute truth. What are we doing? We are here, sitting, waiting for an answer.
mr green wrote: The 'truth' is quite simple, the Murlis were made up by a bunch of religious pundits ... I come on here to chat and gossip, it's great.
ex-l wrote: We are here, sitting, waiting for an answer. As shivsena points out ... no one is willing or able to provide one. Does that not seem strange to you?
sachkhand wrote:For PBKs, it is easiest because according to them Veerendra Dev Dixit is the next birth of Sevakram and it is already three decades. Veerendra Dev Dixit should have recollected all incidents of his previous birth. And also they say that Omniscient Supreme Soul Shiv acts as Teacher through Veerendra Dev Dixit. You can ask Veerendra Dev Dixit or his followers.
sachkhand wrote:So I am trying to understand The Prajapita who is The Corporeal Form of The GodFather Shiv.
arjun wrote: (on 30 Jul 2008) Since you have accepted that you are the reincarnation of Brahma Baba could you tell us how much of your previous birth do you recollect apart from what BKWSU has documented? On the one hand you accept that you are Prajapita Brahma and on the other hand you say you are trying to understand the Prajapita. Which of your two statements is true?
ex-l wrote: (on 30 Jul 2008) So are you saying there is another Supreme Soul, another God Father to appear yet?
sachkhand wrote:On the one hand you accept that you are Prajapita Brahma and on the other hand you say you are trying to understand the Prajapita. Which of your two statements is true?
But we have to identify The present Personality, i.e., the next birth of Lekhraj Kirpalani through whom Shiv will be revealed as The GodFather.
arjun wrote:When you have declared yourself to be Prajapita, why do you use the words 'we have to identify'? Are you still not sure of being Dada Lekhraj's soul in the past birth and Prajapita in this birth? Or are you indirectly asking us to recognize you?
bkdimok of this forum who also declared himself to be God was better than you in a sense that he was very humble and never got angry despite being provocated and had the courage to write as Shiv. But despite challenging Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit to declare himself as Prajapita, you continue to write as sanjeev.
sachkhand wrote:... but the issues raised by me have made you and many people over here to react angrily.
new knowledge wrote: Dear Sanjeev, I am helpless to comment on your query about Satguru & the Middleman. I think that you have sound ideas about this issue. Still waiting for your own reply of your query.
sachkhand wrote: ... but the issues raised by me have made you and many people over here to react angrily.
ex-l wrote: I doubt anyone has gotten angry. I suspect individuals were being polite in reading your posts, replying to them; there was a slight concerned ...
ex-l wrote: (on 01 Jul 2008) I think what you are doing is a very good thing sachkhand. Honestly. I think that you have voiced many of the questions and sentiments that many BKs (and PBKs) go through, honestly on this forum.
pbkindiana wrote: (on 24 Jun 2008) You speak your mind based on your imbecile feeling ... Otherwise you are wasting our time with your nonsensical allegation.
bansy wrote: (on 24 Jun 2008) Yes, you are right, we all hear and read of things. However, we all have a mind and intellect to make judgments which are correct for oneself and for the world at large. This is what a murderer tells the police after he had killed 3 bystanders in the street by stabbing them each 20 times in the neck; "It was inside me, something told me to do this, but I don't know what". Of course, this man did not go to jail, he was considered insane. So here's the next rumour; Dadi G and Veerendra Dev Dixit were sleeping together, a supernova occurred, and that was the start of Golden Age !! Now how do you like that ? Come on, be sensible !
tom wrote: (on 24 Jun 2008) blaming him with breaking the highest spiritual principle of that faith - only because you had one waste thoughts without any evidence, is called in spiritual language and in all holy books of all religions devilish ... You must have guilty conscience to have published your waste thoughts in one open forum
yogi108 wrote: (on 25 Jun 2008) Man, I am just having a good laugh since I just remembered the practice of writing letters to Baba via the instruments and as soon as you handover the letter to the instrument and walk through the door ... am sure that they immediately open it to see if the student has asked a question to Baba about a possible surrender of properties ...Sifymail id ... hehehehe
ex-l wrote: (on 25 Jun 2008) Perhaps it would be cooler if God got his own domain name? Its a wonder that why, with His knowledge of the the three aspects of time, he did not predict the success of the internet and register his own domain name first? We could have a whip round and buy it for him.
ex-l wrote: (on 01 Jul 2008) Good idea, global. I think we should get Veerendra Dev Dixit, Gulzar, the Brahma Kumaris, Mama and the taxi driver together ... and get them on The Jerry Springer Show. We will need the securities guys to hold the BKs away from the PBKs.
pbkindiana wrote: (on 02 Jul 2008) By pointing a finger at others, the rust in your soul will increase and never decrease.
jaycdp wrote: (on 06 Jul 2008) it is you in the scripture please sell your self with a second or third party, like Veerendra Dev Dixit is selling himself( such as arjun for vd)
mr green wrote: (on 08 Jul 2008) your faith has filled you with arrogance and resentment, classic fundamentalism,
yogi108 wrote: (on 08 Jul 2008) Yet another classic from mr green ... The sheer arrogance of being in the BK world. So truly said.
paulkershaw wrote: (on 08 Jul 2008) The only Deceiver I note in this thread is the one who has posted it. It's a personal attack on people based on ignorance and denial and shows the asbolute low intellectual ability of the poster to understand the complexities of the human race in general, showing immature anger, inappropriate comments and reactionary statements that have no place or time nor decency. ... threads like this simply highlight this individuals lack of conscious awareness and shows a selfish and invalid approach that only deceives himself.
paulkershaw wrote: (on 10 Jul 2008)Read what you write before you post. YOU list yourself as ... your posts border on the abusive side and I would recommend that you take more care with your current approach.
mr green wrote: (on 15 Jul 2008) Not another one ... here again we see the dangers on the psyche posed by the teachings of Raja Yoga. Much love to you sack-hand and hopefully see you on the other side.