Dear br. neo,
I feel there is something wrong in telling people how they should feel, like guiding the meditation. Perhaps one could just narrate some points of knowledge and one can feel the way he feels about them. Generally, with this "meditation" thing, it is very easy for one to conclude it is just some mind game, self-hypnosis or else.
Please note that the idea that everything is just an illusion and we are part of a matrix is only just a human idea preached by anyone. Some neo-nihilism. Now, in this world where everything is illusion then this idea will also be just illusionary. Who will be this enlightened one that will have realized that everything is an illusion, his enlightenment will be also illusionary. So he must have seen what truth is. So what truth is? One cannot say truth is that it is an illusion. No, besides the illusion, what comparison do we have so to know what is real.
If we look there are so many ideas. Ignorance is when we don’t know, or when we know many ideas, but don’t know which is true and which is false it is the same situation. What is this world where no one knows what is real, what is true and what is false. Like all are lost and searching. Is it not possible that we can know what is real, what is true and everyone to know.
That’s why what is done is that conceptions, mind blocks that we have these are changed with the help of knowledge. Our mind is put in certain position that remains for everyone, certain, common perception, and this lasts for a long time then due to dualism people scatter and start serching and being confused again.
Now people all have and all the leaders, teachers everyone teaches some falsehood, some different kind of lie. And amongst this chaos there is only one source that is the source of truth. For example Christians say "Oh God have mercy", but is god merciless that we have to ask for mercy. Will he not be the most merciful and show mercy himself without having to ask. Why do we have to pray. Theсe are all wrong practices from the point of view as what could be the real identity of God.
Regarding the falling in love. I feel there is a lot in common in remembering and loving. The more you remember someone the more you fall in love and the other way round. There is a saying from a book that if you feel the germs of love starting to grow in your heart, then be sure that the heart of the other one has already been stricken by the lightning of love. That’s why in the Murli it is said that the more you remember me the more I remember you in return.
Means the matrix has some response, and sometimes it is independent to us. Sometimes something happens to crush this matrix we have in us. There is also this example of the debate whether everything is in our mind, it is a very old debate, so some philosophers were debating and one used to maintain the idea that everything is in our mind and the other one slapped him and said, "don’t mind it is only in your mind."
So is it possible that we can know reality? In the Murli it is said truth is this that happens in practical. Can The Knowledge of The Cycle be true?
There is also this practical experience that when we meet some we just feel internal joy, and with other we don’t Why is it like this? It is because we have some dissonance.
Our aim is to become ignorant of even The Knowledge of what it is desire. Then the mind can feel peace and rest.
Dera br. John,
It is said Shiva does not always stay in the Chariot, well he must be in some other type of body to function
I don’t know about what you say. I cannot make such conclusions based on the Murli. I don’t know other authority.
Dear br. ex-l,
I think there are two ways to perceive The Knowledge and one is to distance yourself from it and analyze and one is from the point of view to understand. As if in the first case one will try to see if from a knowledgeful point of view. If someone is a researcher, so he has some knowledge already on the basis of which he can decide. Other is that we don’t know and learn. Many claims are made to the BKs, but it seems as if some also just like to scold them off and nothing more.
Karma is in the soul. These are the actions that the soul performs, the role that is recorded, that we cannot change, but don’t know. So it is said that everything is in our hand, even God cannot do anything. IN our hand is the pen to draw our destiny we are our own friend and enemy. So based on our thinking karma becomes good neutral or sinful. It is said that nothing is to be done anew, everything is already done, means that from the past whatever actions we have done, we have these habits left. Whatever we do we remember.
Sin is called that which is against Shrimat. So if we don’t know what is Shrimat then sin is one time. Then when we consciously know what should be done and what should not be done then sins is 100 times more, because we knew. It is also possible to become free from sin and it is a matter of stage of the soul, incorporeal, viceless, egoless stage where there are no thoughts and no remmeberance of the acation. Like in the “I drink water” if we stress on the I that who drinks water then there are no influence and if we remember the water then we remember the taste. So if we remember the elf the soul, then this is Shrimat, this is the way to get free from sin.
If we continually remember something then it is some karmic account, but if we even remember against our conscious wish then it is karmic bondage. So only one can free us from this who does not have past experience. So karma is related to the soul, the consciousness, when our consciousness is burdened when we feel we have done many wrong things and when consciousness bites. Some like "it is all in our mind" thing, but for this idea we should also accept the idea of rebirth, otherwise one cannot see point of relevance why some things happen, when I have done nothing wrong, why do I have so much attraction to some things, people than to other, if it is what we have done in the past, if it is that we have been meeting and interacting in the past also then it can be explained.
So it may be something like a memory chip the soul and experiences that it experiences through the body are recorded in it and they get activated due to some circumstances.It is also possible to die alove, to forget the body, not to feel it, then in the Golden Age and Silver Age we have no conciousness of the body, maybe slowly t starts to grow, from the highest organs. Now because we have had the tendency to enjoy bodily pleasures a lot we are full, the memory chip is full of experience, thats why we are heavy and we are getting formatted.
If knowledge and practices has been changing in time then maybe this is the way it should be.
According to Gyan there is astral body (subtle body) and causal body (the seed like soul).