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What is this "Five form of nature" stuff? Is it like some reference of The Tibetan Book of the Death?
How can something inert and soulless have a form?
How can something inert and soulless have a form?
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ex-l wrote:What is this "Five form of nature" stuff? Is it like some reference of The Tibetan Book of the Death? and; How can something inert and soulless have a form?
In Chidambaram Temple, even though there's a main deity, the actual deity is present in another form and this is called as Chidambara Rahasya. If you travel westwards there's another temple which doesn't have an usual idol in the sanctum sanctorum but the lord is said to be present in another form. What's the funda behind these? There are some other temples which are connected by the same funda. Bonus points for identifying these places too.
ANSWER:In Chidambaram, Shiva is present in a formless form & is representing Akash (SKY) which is also called as Chidambara Rahasya. So in the temple you'll be asked to look at the sky to see the akash linga (via a mirror, i guess).
The connection is that God Shiva representing Five Forms of nature Panchatattvas, i.e Air, Water, Sky, Fire & Earth in these temples.
In Tiruvanaikaval near Trichy (on the banks of the Cauvery), Shiva represents WATER. In the sanctum sanctorum, there is a perennial water supply from an unknown natural spring of the Cauvery.
In Srikalahasti (near Tirupati, AP), Shiva represents AIR.
In Tiruvannamalai (TN), Shiva represents FIRE.
In Kanchipuram (TN), Shiva represents EARTH.
ex-l wrote:What is this "Five form of nature" stuff? Is it like some reference of The Tibetan Book of the Death? How can something inert and soulless have a form?
abrahma Kumar wrote:The connection is that God Shiva representing Five Forms of nature Panchatattvas, i.e Air, Water, Sky, Fire & Earth in these temples.
arjun wrote:When Brahmin children were supposed to remember ShivBaba even if Brahma Baba left his body, then is it correct to shed tears when a fellow Brahmin soul leaves his/her body?
Who is the new boss and what policies are they going to bring in?
Has BapDada instructed or have the mighty council meet to decide?
Dadiji Bhog Message August 30, 2007 Mohini
I went up to Baba to offer Bhog and I saw Baba and Dadi were standing on a mountain of light on top of the world. The globe was spinning. It was as if Baba was radiating light towards the souls of the world and giving them the experience of Dadi at the same time. As the globe continued to spin it came towards me. They saw me. Their drishti feel on me. My eyes went towards their eyes. There was so much light coming out of their eyes. Then I became merged in the ocean of light and love (drowned).
Baba said: I am taking your Dadi on a tour (full cycle) of the world. (when you go around something). She is the Dadi of the world. So Baba is taking her on a tour of the world so that she sees the world. When she was in physical she could not go and see the world. The world could not see her. And so, now, they can see her and experience that this is our Dadi, she is the Dadi of the world. This will remain in their memory (consciousness). When they her in the future they will say “we have seen her before”. It is through this, that they will have recognition of time and Baba.
Then Baba and Dadi came down and they gave her drishti in silence. Baba was looking at me, Dadi was looking at me. They were giving drishti and there was complete silence. Then Baba said: Daughter, what are you thinking. What message have you brought with you? Have you been remembering Dadi a lot. Mohini said: We are remembering Dadi and we are remembering Baba. They are asking the question: why did Baba call Dadi now. There is so much service to do. We still need a Dadi to be with us. Why did you call her? Baba: Mama created the foundation of the Yagya. To do unlimited service she had to go.
This daughter has created the expansion of the Yagya and taken Baba’s message in the world. She as spread the message of world peace. Whatever Baba said, however Baba said, whenever Baba said, and wherever Baba said, the daughter fulfilled it with complete obedience. She tied everyone with a thread of truth, purity, understanding, love, and mercy and brought them together in unity. This is why whenever she asked anything to anyone, they did not say no to her. And even if someone did say no, they would repent and come back and say yes later. Because of the love from Baba and her drishti was only on Baba, her drishti was never drawn or attracted towards anything physical – person, situations, places, or elements (luxuries, facilities).
So it was the feeling like we garland Baba, Baba was making the garland of Dadi’s virtues. So then, I said to Baba, I have come to give a mala to Dadi. I am offering a mala to Dadiji because the Double Foreigners have made a rosary of virtues of Dadiji. Baba said: everyone is remembering Baba but it is Dadi when she created the cottage, and had a place for Baba there, and even now, Dadi is still sitting there. It is as if she is still continuing to sit there and do her work. Then Mohini has said: The family has gotten together to make Dadi Janki the administrative head as well.
Then Baba emerged the three Dadis and showed the picture of the Dadis that was created for the mega program and said this is my Trimurti. Then he emerged all the other two Dadis and embraced them on each side of them. He said: this is my Trimurti for service. They will continue to do service together. Baba to Dadi Janki: now you have double service. Dadi Janki replied: whatever Baba says, whatever Baba makes me do, in whatever way He needs it to be done, I will do it. To Dadi Gulzar: this is Baba’s Chariot and all three will continue to play their part. Dadiji will continue incognito. The part of service is merged in every particle of her. Baba has called her to Him in order to bring time closer. There is a lot of fluctuation to happen.
There is the fluctuation of the elements of nature, there will be the heaviness of happiness; there will be the force of vices (like an explosion of vicious actions, eruptions). The policies of politics and the creation created by scientists will bring about fluctuation. When the children receive the signal they will be able to make their stage strong. By seeing the time it will be easy by seeing the time now. The children just need to have a little attention and be adult. Keep your intellect stable, unshakeable, unmovable and become eknami and you will receive the help to become that.
Mohini to Dadiji: How did you come here like this? We did not want you to leave now. The cottage does not feel the same without you.
Dadiji: everyone came in this way (to Subtle Region). No one told anyone anything or said: goodbye. Both of you Mohini and Munni) received a lot of sustenance and both of you have lived together with her more than anyone else. Let them experience that I am still sitting there. Let them also experience the same love. Accept the destiny of drama. Kalyankari time, Kalyankari drama. The proof of love is that you create a powerful stage and a powerful atmosphere. Then Dadiji gave love and remembrances and thanks to all the doctors who took care of her. She remembered some individually and give them heart felt thanks for the care that they gave.
Then Mohini took leave and came down.
BKTi-Pit wrote:I am surprised to see Dadi Nirmal Shanta there. She is sweet and lovely but it seems that old age has affected her brain or something and that she has lost her capacity to reason properly since few years already.
The family has gotten together to make Dadi Janki the administrative head as well.
ex-l wrote:What is interesting always to ask is that if all the "chiefs" are borderline senile or in the 80s plus, who is actually running the organization? "Baba ... Baba ... the sheep all bleat" ... Yes, but who is actually running the organization?
BKTi-pit wrote:Who is "the family"? No one asked for my opinion.
BKTi-pit wrote:I am surprised to see Dadi Nirmal Shanta there. She is sweet and lovely but it seems that old age has affected her brain or something and that she has lost her capacity to reason properly since few years already.
ex-l wrote:How many "official mediums" are their now?