new knowledge wrote:Brother mbbhat, I can understand 'Avyakt BapDada'; but what about 'Sakar BapDada'? Is the term 'Sakar BapDada' mention in Murlis? And what is meant by 'Sakar BapDada? I have asked this query in the thread 'Meaning of BapDada'; but still waiting for reply. Thanks.
Dear new knowledge soul,
I did not see this thread for long time. I visited this just to mention the following Murli point to arjun soul.
According to me, BapDada is the combined form of Shiva and Brahma (Lekhraj Kirpalani). So there is no difference between Sakar BapDada or Avyakt BapDada. But to differentiate I used the two words. Shiva is considered to be Avyakt since he has no body of his own. Brahma was vyakt. So when Brahma was vyakt (having body), we can say the form as Sakar BapDada. When Brahma was in Sakar, BKs used to say Shiv comes in Brahma.
When Brahma became Avyakt, both are Avyakt. So we say Avyakt BapDada comes in Gulzar Dadi.
arjun wrote:but I repeat that ShivBaba has not stated anywhere in the Murlis that you can become my Fathers.
Dear Arjun soul,
I am mentioning the Murli point that says we can become Father of Shiva.
Baba dekho kitnee kamaal karte hai. Kahte hain mujhe apnaa vaaris banaavo. Main tumhaaree itnee seva karoonga jo tumhaaraa bacchha bhee kabhee kar na sakegaa. Main tumko 21 janmon ke liye raajy bhaagy doongaa. Phir bhee agar vaaris na banaave to takdeer kahaa jaataa - (14-6-08). The approx. translation is -
See how much magic (kamaal) Baba does. Says, 'make me your vaaris (one who has right to the property = son). I will serve you so much that even your son will never be able to do that much. I will give you kingdom for 21 births. If even then one does not makes (me) vaaris, then it is called (bad) luck (or fate).