How does God gives temporary prapti (reward) for one birth in Copper and Iron ages when He is not present in a body?
On basis of their thought results are achieved .
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Murli revised 1.12.02
It shows Brahma and Prajapita Brahma are separate and there are more than one
Brahma.
Sakar_Murli_2004/05/08_Revised
Actions of deities in the Golden Age are neutral, but they don't make any effort for that, so this refers to the present period of the Confluence Age when we reach a stage through effort that whilst performing actions they become neutral. It is not that we become pure and leave the body. We become pure and leave the consciousness of the body, actions become neutral, here now in this birth. When we have imbibed such sanskaras of performing actions in soul-consciousness we will have them for the future Golden Age.
Baba says that when an action is performed in 100% remembrance of the Father it does not accumulate sin, no matter the action, but even if there is even 1 % body-consciousness then surely sin would be accumulated. So we should make so much effort, to remember only One.
Sakar_Murli_2004/05/08_Revised;
So there are two different rosaries. What makes them different? Baba has explained that.
Revised Murli 25.03.2003;
Revised Murli 01.12.02
When He is in the Body of Brahma Baba, why is “Him” “He” used making him distant. Because it is an indication for the future part.
In the Murli, it is said that he (Brahma / Dada Lekraj) is the one who listens in between. For whom it this "you" used? It is used for the soul of Prajapita. So he (Prajapita) is making Bharat into the Land of Vishnu. He cannot make it earlier because Shiv cannot enter earlier than it is fixed in the Drama. Shiv also cannot make anything without a body.
Revised Murli 12.1.04;
Revised Murli 14.1.04
Revised Murli 14.1.04
Revised Murli 13.1.04
Revised Murli 14.1.04
Revised Murli 15.1.04;
I have asked and Baba has said are there better children than Brahma and Bap.
According to my understanding, this relates to the seed from souls of other religions. I interpret the "end" as the end of Silver Age. Low status – they become kings but the conditions are low. Already ...
This one quote is from heart, that the one who performs the dance of knowledge (meaning ShivBaba) will perform the dance according to the public. He will see what is the public and dance accordingly. Like the ordinary dancer who will have passion to dance on front of a good public.
Murli Revised 16.1.04
Revised Murli 17.1.04.
revised Murli 15.1.04
Revised Murli 22.01.04
On basis of their thought results are achieved .
This forum is for gathering whatever points from the Murli we like; whether they prove something or not, whether they are just strange and we cannot understand them, or whether they have just made some difference to us. With comment or without comment.
Murli revised 1.12.02
"... I definitely need Brahma and also Prajapita Brahma whom I can enter and come
here ..."
It shows Brahma and Prajapita Brahma are separate and there are more than one
Brahma.
Sakar_Murli_2004/05/08_Revised
"... You have to make so much effort in order to make your actions become neutral ..."
Actions of deities in the Golden Age are neutral, but they don't make any effort for that, so this refers to the present period of the Confluence Age when we reach a stage through effort that whilst performing actions they become neutral. It is not that we become pure and leave the body. We become pure and leave the consciousness of the body, actions become neutral, here now in this birth. When we have imbibed such sanskaras of performing actions in soul-consciousness we will have them for the future Golden Age.
Baba says that when an action is performed in 100% remembrance of the Father it does not accumulate sin, no matter the action, but even if there is even 1 % body-consciousness then surely sin would be accumulated. So we should make so much effort, to remember only One.
Sakar_Murli_2004/05/08_Revised;
"... You know that one rosary is of Rudra and the other is the rosary of victory of Vishnu ..."
So there are two different rosaries. What makes them different? Baba has explained that.
"... It does not really take time to receive knowledge or your inheritance. It takes time to become pure... "
"... You know that you are now establishing peace with the power of Yoga. However, you receive the kingdom by studying ..."
Revised Murli 25.03.2003;
"... Brahma and Saraswati are not a god and goddess. This praise cannot be given to them. It is wrong to call them the Mother and Father ..."
Revised Murli 01.12.02
"... You are personally sitting in front of Him. You know that He is the Father of all souls. He is explaining to you through this body. He explains to you in the same way every cycle and gives you your inheritance ..."
When He is in the Body of Brahma Baba, why is “Him” “He” used making him distant. Because it is an indication for the future part.
"You" is used for someone sitting in front. It is said in the Murli, "I speak whilst emerging the children in front of Me. They may not be present in front of Me but I speak to them whilst emerging them in front of Me". "You" is not used for Brahma Dada Lekraj."... You are making Bharat into the land of Vishnu ...
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In the Murli, it is said that he (Brahma / Dada Lekraj) is the one who listens in between. For whom it this "you" used? It is used for the soul of Prajapita. So he (Prajapita) is making Bharat into the Land of Vishnu. He cannot make it earlier because Shiv cannot enter earlier than it is fixed in the Drama. Shiv also cannot make anything without a body.
Revised Murli 12.1.04;
"... It is only through the pilgrimage of rememberance that your happiness will rise. Now matter how intoxicated you remain with knowledge, there is still so much body conciousness. Where is that stage of soul conciousness? Knowledge is very easy ..."
Revised Murli 14.1.04
"... Only through remembrance will you be filled with power. It is not said to be the power of knowledge. It is said: The power of Yoga. It is only with the power of Yoga that you become the masters of the world ..."
Revised Murli 14.1.04
"... The soul will go from the Brahmin clan ito the deity clan. It is not a question of the body ..."
Revised Murli 13.1.04
So ... drama is a creation. Or is this creation something else."... He teaches you the secrets of the Creator and the beginning, the middle and the end of creation ..."
"... The number one aspect is to belong to the Father and glorify the Father's name and become totally pure ..." "... This is an old body which will be shed at its own time; it cannot be shed in an unlimited death; we have to shed this body in happiness ..."
Revised Murli 14.1.04
"... This Dada (Brahma also says: These children do much better service than i do"
So there are such children who do better service than Brahma (Dada Lekraj)
"... You are Prajapita Brahma Kumars and Kumaris ..." "... You receive power by having Yoga with the Father ..."
Revised Murli 15.1.04;
"Learn from what Mama and Baba are doing. You can also understand who the specially beloved children are. If you ask Baba, Baba will give you a name and say : Follow So-and so."
I have asked and Baba has said are there better children than Brahma and Bap.
"There are many false children too." "Here too there are many who don’t know about the soul or the Supreme Soul. They have just renounced the vices, and that, too, is a wonder!" " ...There is service in Yoga too ... " " ... Not everyone will go to the Golden Age. Others will claim a low status at the end. If they do come at the beginning, they would be servants ..."
According to my understanding, this relates to the seed from souls of other religions. I interpret the "end" as the end of Silver Age. Low status – they become kings but the conditions are low. Already ...
"... Your sins of many births will not be cut away by telling Baba your life story of this birth. The sins of this birth become a little lighter. However, you have to make a lot of effort. All the karmic accounts of so many births will only be settled with Yoga ..." "... If you continue to make mistake after mistake by being coloured by the company you kep you will fall even further down than you were before ..." " ... The greatest charity is to remember the Father ... " " ... The Cycle of 84 births continues to turn. You should also remember that our cycle of 84 births is now ending and that we now have to return home. However sinfull souls cannot go to liberation or liberation–in-life. You have to churn the ocean of knowledge in this way. Those who do this will receive the reward ..."
This one quote is from heart, that the one who performs the dance of knowledge (meaning ShivBaba) will perform the dance according to the public. He will see what is the public and dance accordingly. Like the ordinary dancer who will have passion to dance on front of a good public.
Murli Revised 16.1.04
Maybe it is a matter of the beginning of the Yagya when the Gita of the path of devotion was studied."... You are the ones who started the study of the Gita in the beginning. You are the ones who started worshipping. You now have to make effort to liberate poor people from the chains of the path of devotion ..."
Revised Murli 17.1.04.
"...The sweetest brides and sweetest worthy children receive these blessings...."
It seems brides are different and childrena are different. Brides can be the souls of the rosary of vicrory of the Moon Dynasty and children can be the direct children of the Sun of Knowledge - the Sundinasty. Nothing is mentioned for the souls of others religions.
"...You sweet children of the sweet Father are personally able to see the sweetest Father. souls see one another through the organs of the body..."
revised Murli 15.1.04
"Now as you move forward many different points will emerge. Day by day, there will continue to be progress. New points will emerge. Those who remain engaged in service are quickly able to grasp them. Nothing will sit in the intellect of those who don’t do service"
Revised Murli 22.01.04
"... The new world is now established through Shrimat. There is no question of blessings here. A teacher never gives blessings. A teacher teaches you. To the extend that someone studies and imbibes manners here, so he receives a status accordingly. It is the same here ... "