raneee wrote:You seemed to be giving some thought to taking up Jayanti's offer of a friendly chat at one point, so why not consider a similar such rendevous with msOrange? And you never know, if fruitful, then that might help pave the way for a more technical tete-a-tete with the good ex-lady herself?
It is tempting, but there's too much of background chats. I don't like the idea of a bunch of children whispering in the corner, it seems so 'boardroom-like' sanskars in what is really a one world family. Besides, I have nothing personal against any BK as they are also spiritual seekers and travelers, and thus let views, criticisms, praises, strengths and weaknesses, out in this forum and learn from others and from myself.
Because the audience in this forum reaches out to folks all across the world, and across many other cultures often which I know little about, and not just from a safe little corner I would sometimes like to crawl back in. There's a lot of insecurity in both physical, material and spiritual aspects, and so acknowledge them from others to also be those of my own too. And so in this sense, feel less insecure.
Besides, spirituality is not a connection between one or two (other than the Supreme Soul). It is about connecting with as many as possible.
I don't know about others, but (besides the Murlis), in terms of discussion and churning, I learn a huge lot about the BK world in this forum than I would if only staying within the boundaries of the BK sphere. There is a saying that "As in Rome do as the Romans do", so in the BK world, do what the BKs do. Except that the Roman empire failed because it could not connect to the rest of the world as it was so enclosed in its own. In a sense, everything is doomed to fail such as the BK world itself nowadays the result of BK, Hinduism, is so vague. This is according to BK's own wheel of drama. So "nothing new".
At the same time, I am not attached to this forum because we all know that everything is transient. So we use everything that empowers one's own self as it will empower others. Discussions in this forum is open and unbiased, as the only bais is towards oneself because I am writing to a computer screen, and I don't know who is really on the other side as it does not really matter. For some, it may.
The only other person I really need to write to or have a one-to-one meeting is with the Supreme Soul. I would prefer to connect to all, not select the ones I prefer. This is what I understand from the Murlis "forget your relations" ... i.e. even forget the BKs as they are your spiritual relations, just remember the One.
I look forward to the viewing of TToTT. I am sure it is made with good intent. Though I much prefer the message to simply say "this is God and I am Shiva" and leave out pulling the audience to other actors, ironically the best video made by the BK so far (for me) is the one with the look-alike Lekhraj Kirpalani (already well discussed in the forum elsewhere) as it tries to say directly what it is really all about. (The PBKs may have a different view on this though). There are already too many ego actors in the world climbing for space and time, and so I would like the message direct, rather than like another Paul Coelho novel.
I think the need to "feel the pulse" is much lightened nowadays since people are so much more aware of spirituality and religion, and the countries heaped in so-called "exotic" locations of India, Middle-East and Far East are now no longer exotic but very open, there is no need to take a trip to Angkor Wat or the Peruvian mountains since they can now come onto the very screen you are typing with just a few googles.
God is very accessible now, you an get copies of (versions) of Bible, Gita, Koran etc on the internet for free, and so I have respect for folks that they are aware of God more instead of assuming they do not have a clue and only I possess to have the real knowledge.
It is said "come last go fast". It only takes a second to realise God. If anyone is interested (here's my free bit for the PBKs) the PBKs have put up a lot of new documents about the Gyan and explanations of pictures in their website, not just the clarifications, mp3s and videos. I am surprised the BKWSU have yet to even release Murlis or DVDs of BapDada, but it will just be a matter of time.
I've sort of rambled on, I don't get so much time on the forum now so I sort of chucked it all in this post for now. Surprised to find many responses on this thread, just goes to show that TToTT will be useful for others when it is released. I knew nothing about the people who made the DVD, though now I know a bit more but it doesn't matter.
I am glad ms orange (Tamasin) has boldly come onto the forum, as I am sure it is hard to accept criticism but at the same time there is a deeper message in that there are also many others who praise the work done and are not bothered with the financial aspects etc and take the DVD as it is at full value and will receive good benefits from it. And as long as that happens, all these thoughts are just transient.