howiemac wrote:I challenge anyone to provide any sensible support for the idea that these Murlis are "the words of God" rather than the words of Brahma Baba...as I see it they are all the fallible, and often inconsistent, ideas of Brahma Baba - they do contain, indeed, much elevated spiritual knowledge, but also misleading statements, some of which are downright dangerous when regarded as the "infallible words of God".
I remember when I first started to hear the Sakar Murlis. Immediately it was clear to me that that Lekhraj was speaking at some point but when I pointed this out it was jumped upon by the Sister in Charge of the center. It was obvious but institutionally denied.
" No, no, no ... ", was the answer. I was corrected immediately, "These were Baba's words, God's words ... ". There was no second thought. Baba-Baba-Baba-Baba-Baba-Baba-Baba ...
I went along with it because I wanted to express my love and prove my faith in God. It never crosed my mind it might
all be Lekhraj / Brahma's words, I always thouight that it was just Lekhraj interjecting from time to time, but looking back I think it is a crime, and it makes me angry, that such stupid people were such allowed influence over impressionable individual's minds. I am absolutely sure that if you did a poll of current BKs 99.9% would say it was "Baba's words", i.e. God's words. And, of course, it begs the question, if they are some or all of Lekhraj Kirpalani's words, why do the PBKs refer to them so religiously?
My strongest point on this thread is ;
if these are God's or Adam's [ to use the BK belief ] words ... is the BKWSU not interested and proud in them? Why is there not a intelligent study or review of the developments of Lekhraj Kirpalani's thoughts? Brahma is meant to be Number One, twice as pure and powerful as Jesus Christ or Buddha. If these were Jesus Christ's or Buddha's original thoughts and words the World would be pouring over them. I want to see the original Murlis and the notebooks; Brahma, Mama's etc ... what has happened to them? Burnt or just hidden? Who has ever asked to see them when they were in Madhuban?
What right do the Seniors have to hold them back and edit them up?
It is time to stand up against those gentle, patronizing, rebuffs and say -
"No, it is my birthright as much as yours ... give us The Knowledge, give us the Gyan, so that we may learn from the source too at our own speed and to our own depth ".
Why should we accept to be treated like children by these people? Little peasants kept busy on the service field. I cannot believe it when I read that they are being locked away behind Passwords and PGP security ... and even worse ...
I am sorry, but what
does that say about the BKWSU? Who is doing these things!?!