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Re: Baba Milan (direct meeting with God at BKWSU HQ)

27 Mar 2013

Hitesh's 'Gyan" is exactly the kind of thing that was taught. Not sure if it still taught that way. On any of the occasions when you met the accused, were you lead to believe by the experience you had that the individual or individuals in front of you was indeed "God"? Being a typical...

Re: Baba Milan (direct meeting with God at BKWSU HQ)

26 Mar 2013

Chill, my reference to REM sleep was to do with ex-l mentioning a chap who had told him that he'd never dreamt in his life! It was not in response to any suggestions of hypnotism (although the "hypno" part literally means "sleep" and people can be influenced subliminally whilst a...

Re: Baba Milan

25 Mar 2013

... doesn't really help or mean anything without supporting it with some kind of evidence or being specific about what each is. Otherwise it's just a distraction of theoretical permutations. It's also not a strong argument against BKism as BKs will still think their experiences are the best or thei...

Re: Baba Milan

24 Mar 2013

I am not sure what the dancers are meant to add to this topic but, as we've discussed before, I generally find the skeptical or rationalist view of spiritual experiences as lacking as the religionists' interpretations of them are exaggerated. I was responding to Chill's point For example, in an opt...

Re: Baba Milan

23 Mar 2013

: Amway, short for American Way, is an American multi-level marketing company. That is to say, a company which avoids the normal shop front style of business but encourages people to turn all their family and friends and daily life into their business ... Funnily, a number of exiting BKs I knew got...

Re: Baba Milan

20 Mar 2013

I recall reading an article about the late "Sai Baba", who used to perform magical tricks in front of followers and visitors as part of his spiritual show and call them, Miracles ..! A team of Western researchers approached him to verify the truth behind his allegations, No need for camer...

Re: Baba Milan

18 Mar 2013

Yes, but ... the experience and the understanding of the experience are two different things ... There's a discussion elsewhere here that goes into this subject deeply, I forget the topic title. Essentially, there is a lot of "investment" of belief, wanting to view it in a particular way r...

Re: BKs discuss what has to be changed about the BKWSU

16 Mar 2013

Easy Meditation and Shiv Shakti write their points as if they were the first to see it, or try to change it. It seems, just like with wars, economic cycles, raising children etc every generation has to re-learn the same lessons. And even BKSimonB's request about the music goes back to my very first ...
Pink Panther

Re: White smoke from Mount Abu..!

15 Mar 2013

How?

Trance Sister Radio.

One 'tradition" is that the leader is not a transistor herself - neither Brahma, the first Dadi'n'Didi heads, nor Janki were transistors. A crude separation of powers?
Pink Panther

Re: Dr Vinay Lakshmi - RIP

13 Mar 2013

Ah, yes. I see. Dr Lakshmi was the strength behind the outreach program. The hospital itself was begun when ... In 1989, eminent Mumbai-based head and neck cancer surgeon Dr Ashok Mehta visited the Brahma Kumaris world headquarters in Mount Abu. His positive experience led him to believe that the Br...
Pink Panther

Re: Dr Vinay Lakshmi - RIP

13 Mar 2013

I can draw a parallel between Janki and Mother Teresa but in my eyes Vinay Lakshmi's endeavour was of an entirely different nature. Parallels or otherwise : Mother Teresa's mission was essentially palliative care, not a hospital, while Dr Lakshmi's was a local hospital (despite the "Global&quo...
Pink Panther

Re: Dr Vinay Lakshmi - RIP

11 Mar 2013

Discussion about suffering, genuine or false charitable works, attitudes and actions, is to me a fitting legacy for the work of someone like Dr Lakshmi. I am sure she'd prefer people think deeply about it rather then merely eulogise her. If someone says, "there is beauty in suffering", it ...
Pink Panther

Re: Dr Vinay Lakshmi - RIP?

11 Mar 2013

She might be "one of the good ones", but stories and studies we are reading now about Mother Teresa and the true nature of her her work with the poor after decades of glorifying her achievements and ranking her with the saints, makes one suspicious about the true motives and intentions, e...
Pink Panther

Re: BK cover up

05 Mar 2013

To answer ex-l's question: My suggestion to "cut the apron strings" was indeed to move away completely - start a new life somewhere else. Get out of that house and immediate environment. Without any evidence or justification, I am guessing ... 1. It could be this attempt to set things righ...

Re: Disassociating general meditation practice from BK metho

03 Mar 2013

HI ex-l, I agree my last post does not examine the BK method itself closely. That can come later. Or you may wish to reply on that. I actually wrote that last post for a topic elsewhere on the www and adapted it for here as I thought it was quite relevant. My understanding of the topic's purpose is ...
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